Russia's War Against Ukraine

[ArizonaTank]

I think this is an incredibly dangerous development. Doing it on the QT is one thing but actually openly admitting the U.S. is targeting Russian generals, and then bragging about it, can only lead to a required retaliation by Putin. Better to have kept quiet about it.

It is definitely an exaggeration to say they are "bragging" about it. Quietly letting it be known is the way I would put it.

From an official point of view, I think the US and NATO are covering the diplomatic speak. There is no official acknowledgement of this that I am aware of...just the typical unnamed sources that could always be denied...speaking to reporters anonymously. I think the only "official" thing I have seen is an acknowledgement at the NATO level that NATO is providing intel to Ukraine...but they don't say "targeting." Even then, they would not say they are providing information on generals, but "headquarters."

However, assuming the intel provided is electronic, signal intercepts and imagery, from a practical point of view, there is very little difference between "providing intel" and providing "targeting help" (as the NYT article put it).

BTW, if anyone out there in wargaming land hasn't been exposed to modern capabilities, I highly recommend the PC game, "Command Modern Operations" published by Slitherine. The game is "eye-opening."

[MengJiao]

Or he loses his temper in another flash of insanity and we all die in a nuclear fire.

  I guess, but consider this:  he must have been pretty much flashing with anger and insanity when he ordered the invasion of Ukraine.  It seems possible that we have already seen the worst, at least
in terms of purely Putin-centric Putin-esque anger.  Maybe the Donbas is all he really wanted and the stuff about Kyiv was just to make getting a big chunk of Ukraine quicker and easier.

[Gusington]

I hope you're right.

[Windigo]

Or he loses his temper in another flash of insanity and we all die in a nuclear fire.

More likely to freeze to death in a nuclear winter.

[ArizonaTank]

NYT says US is providing Ukraine intel that helps them target Russian generals...err....headquarters. ;)

This story has been percolating a bit on less well known news outlets for a day or so, but the NYT piece is the first time I have seen much detail.

And....the official denial

https://www.c-span.org/video/?c5013851/pentagon-denies-providing-intelligence-ukraine-russian-generals

[bobarossa]

Or he loses his temper in another flash of insanity and we all die in a nuclear fire.

More likely to freeze to death in a nuclear winter.

I'd think it would be from radiation sickness.

[al_infierno]

Why not all of the above?   :dreamer:

[bobarossa]

Why not all of the above?   :dreamer:

Might as well add old age then  ;)

[Dammit Carl!]

Somehow, the worse part will be the apocalypse tourists who, somehow, vlog their "adventures," and whatnot.

"Unlike in Eastern Europe, where there is a strong "cannibal cult," kind of vibe going on, in the remnants of the U.S.'s East Coast, one gets a sense of family as you really have to pull together as a group to combat the now sentient kudzu which threatens to wash over village walls like a vengeful green tide.  If you want to know more, like, subscribe and follow us as we try and hit all the "hot," spots to go before you die in your own lung juices or get eaten by the neighbor or the neighbor's dog."

[GDS_Starfury]

Case closed.

Israeli Prime Minister Bennett's office says Russian President Putin apologized for Foreign Minister Lavrov's comments.  Bennett accepted Putin's apology "and thanked him for clarifying the President's attitude towards the Jewish people and the memory of the Holocaust."

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-61339749

1. this is the only apology that fuckstick has given to anyone.
2. because he doesnt want syria  to get even more destabilized from IDF action.

[MengJiao]

Case closed.

Israeli Prime Minister Bennett's office says Russian President Putin apologized for Foreign Minister Lavrov's comments.  Bennett accepted Putin's apology "and thanked him for clarifying the President's attitude towards the Jewish people and the memory of the Holocaust."

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-61339749

1. this is the only apology that fuckstick has given to anyone.
2. because he doesnt want syria  to get even more destabilized from IDF action.

   So true.

[Skoop]

I second the CMO suggestion from above.  It's like a living encyclopedia sandbox of modern war stuff.  There's even some user made scenarios for Ukraine in the steam workshop.

[JasonPratt]

1. this is the only apology that fuckstick has given to anyone.
2. because he doesnt want syria  to get even more destabilized from IDF action.

Also because Israel is basically Batman, and the Bat doesn't recognize international jurisdiction.  ^-^

(At least, that's my head-canon.)

(Not that Israel is basically Batman. That's one hundred percent fact.)

[Skoop]

I honestly don't give 2 shits about upsetting Russia with intel on generals location or Moskva location.  It's quite obvious our jstars and awacs are airborne every day doing surveillance and our satellites are watching everything.  The Russians already know this and are fools if they don't.  I thinks it's message that we don't even need to have boots on the ground and we can affect this war in a decisive way. 

Also, I seem to remember the Russian fsb paying bounties to the taliban for killed American soldiers....so dead Russian generals is payback....and it's a bitch sometimes.

I do wish I built a nuclear proof bunker in my back yard instead of a swimming pool.  But 5 years ago, I'd never suspect we'd be here.

[Sir Slash]

I believe the bounty on U.S. Soldiers story was totally de-bunked. I also saw Gen. Milley was on Capitol Hill last week telling everyone who would listen how U.S. Intelligence was assisting the Ukraine targeting Russian assets. Maybe this story, as so many others, was not true either. It's hard to tell. Putin maybe crazy but he's not so crazy that he thinks he can afford to not hit back when his reputation's at stake.

Here in Fla. a nuclear war would undoubtedly result in the damned Iguanas running around everywhere mutating into Dump Truck sized man-eaters. Is that worse than nuclear fire?  ???