Russia's War Against Ukraine

[Gusington]

Jesus Christ.

[GDS_Starfury]

right  :bd:

[Dammit Carl!]

Sneak some diesel-electric subs to Ukraine and they'd turn the Black Sea into a Ukrainian lake in a week flat.

[GDS_Starfury]

oh, and sorry Pratt.  no western subs in the Black Sea at all.

[Gusington]

Doesn't look like the Ukrainians are suffering too much from not having a navy anyway.

[Dammit Carl!]

Doesn't look like the Ukrainians are suffering too much from not having a navy anyway.

True, true.

[Gusington]

From Politico on the press leaks of the last few days:

'There's also concern on both sides of the Atlantic that Russian President VLADIMIR PUTIN can't ignore what news reports now describe as an open proxy war. With "Victory Day" coming up on May 9, Ukrainian officials are assessing that the Kremlin will announce an escalation of the war — that such American involvement can't stand unanswered.'

[GDS_Starfury]

for what its worth, its been great knowing ya'll!  <:-)

[Dammit Carl!]

for what its worth, its been great knowing ya'll!  <:-)

[FarAway Sooner]

I never have any idea what the provenance is of those types of videos, but that Ukrainian video was downright creepy.

[Gusington]

^Absolutely.

Hugs all around!

[JasonPratt]

Doesn't look like the Ukrainians are suffering too much from not having a navy anyway.

True, true.

Next week, we'll start seeing videos on how navies are outdated and dead meat in the world of modern warfare...  ::) THANKS RUSSIA, NOW YOU'RE MAKING NAVIES LOOK USELESS!

[Sir Slash]

At first I thought the Ukrainian girl was kind of Hot. But her and her sickle would have to sleep on the couch I'm afraid.  :hide:

[JasonPratt]

oh, and sorry Pratt.  no western subs in the Black Sea at all.

I would accept any existent Israeli subs in that category.  >:D But we were speculating earlier about Turkish subs -- they had like 12 at the start of last year, right? -- and they're members of NATO now.

As for further-western NATO subs, I suppose even NATO grade subs couldn't get through the Turkish straits without being detected, and so would be caught in violation of various agreements. But I also know sub crews are famous for doing super-ballsy things and getting away with it, so...

(Come to think of it, I seem to recall British subs in WW1 running the Turkish straits into the Sea of Mamora to do some successful ops, which I had never heard of before, when reading Churchill's wartime memoirs. I should try to search for that again, see if I'm remembering that accurately.)

[JasonPratt]

oh boy!  putin certainly pissed off the wrong country. 
this is propaganda done right.

https://twitter.com/i/status/1513131559834079234

As I only half-joked earlier, about Putin's 'plan' (for want of a better word):

Step 1.) Piss off Cossacks beyond all human comprehension.
Step 2.) ???
Step 3.) ...profit...?