Russia's War Against Ukraine

[nelmsm]

I have to believe the Russians having concentrated and advancing with a slow grind are doing so because it allows them to form almost a continuous line and protect those lines of supply from foray's by Ukranian forces, something they didn't do when they launched their invasion and attacks towards Kyiv.

[Gusington]

Easing or elimination of embargoes on Russia have to be part of any negotiation, if/when negotiations start. Russia wouldn't bother otherwise.

[MengJiao]

I'll be curious to see how long the current embargo on Russia lasts.  I'm even more curious to see if Western Europe ever gets to a full embargo of Russian energy.  The lynchpin here is German reliance on Russian natural gas.

Germany's done an excellent job of reducing their fossil fuel consumption in the last 20 years.  They've certainly beat the US in that regard.  Unfortunately, when it comes to electrical generation, they have a heavier reliance than any other Western European country on Russian natural gas.  Why is that a problem?

Oil moves around the world by tankers, which can be easily rerouted.  Coal moves around the world in rail cars (and less often boats), which can also be rerouted with only modest disruption.  Gas moves most frequently by pipelines, which takes much more time and more money to build or rebuild.  So the German dependence on Russian gas is more expensive to break.  If the Germans are willing/able to do that, the Russians are in deep shit and will quickly see what's left of their economy go down the drain. 

That would be more economic pain than the Germans have been willing to shoulder since the end of WW II.

In the absence of that, it'll be curious to see if Russia makes an easing of embargoes one of the preconditions for peace in Ukraine.

  What's odd is that there is an easy solution for Europe and its energy problems: defeat Russia and make them quit threatening the world.  All this messing with things can be stopped by defeating
Russia.  I'm sure that is becoming clearer and clearer even to the Germans.

[GDS_Starfury]

[ArizonaTank]

The T-62. It's baaaackkk!!!!!!

According to article in Forbes:

"This week videos and photos circulated on social media confirming the Ukrainian general staff's claim. Old T-62s indeed are making their way via train to the railhead in Russian-occupied Melitopol in southern Ukraine."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/the-russian-army-is-running-out-of-tanks-for-the-war-in-ukraine-these-60-year-old-t-62s-are-proof/ar-AAXIBAJ?ocid=BingNewsSearch

[Sir Slash]

Yes Jason, definitely with Vera.  O0  Along with bread, baloney, milk, and plenty of TP. And old re-runs of Rat Patrol to keep me occupied.

[JasonPratt]

The T-62. It's baaaackkk!!!!!!

60 year old retired vets, and T-62s, go together like vodka and the smell of desperation. In this case.

[Pete Dero]

The T-62. It's baaaackkk!!!!!!

60 year old retired vets, and T-62s, go together like vodka and the smell of desperation. In this case.

This is all as planned.

- take Kiev and win on day 3
- retreat, take the east and win in month 3
- introduce T-62s in month 4. 
- go on TV and explain that the lower the number the better the tank.   Ensure the people know that you still have T-34s in reserve.

[Gusington]

'Germany will equip it's army so it's ready at 'all times' to defend itself 'under the new conditions' dictated by Russia.'
-Olaf Scholz, German President

[ArizonaTank]

- go on TV and explain that the lower the number the better the tank.   Ensure the people know that you still have T-34s in reserve.

Don't forget the T-55s!!!

[ArizonaTank]

Ukraine admits fight in the East is not going well...  :( :o

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russia-gains-upper-hand-as-ukraine-military-admits-difficult-situation/ar-AAXLmZa?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=834d87cccee049b5b7090216733f5794

[JasonPratt]

'Germany will equip it's army so it's ready at 'all times' to defend itself 'under the new conditions' dictated by Russia.'
-Olaf Scholz, German President

Panzerlied intensifies

It's super-effective

[JasonPratt]

Ukraine admits fight in the East is not going well...  :( :o

So, I wonder if they consider the T-60s bad news or good news...

Edited to add: Shamanov would apparently call it bad news, if the "denazification" and "demilitarization" of the Ukraine is expected to last 5 to 10 years.

Don't forget the T-55s!!!

Deploy the T-28 Steel Fortresses! (Actually, a working T-35 Land Battleship still exists.)

[W8taminute]

^Haha!  Steel Fortress.  Would you believe I have firsthand experience in using it in urban combat?  LOL

[al_infierno]

^Haha!  Steel Fortress.  Would you believe I have firsthand experience in using it in urban combat?  LOL

That probably makes you more trained and ready for duty than the majority of the actual deployed Russians  :-"