Russia's War Against Ukraine

[Sir Slash]

The Jewish Space Laser was only used once and that was to give Jupiter a circumcision. Be very glad it didn't miss and hit Uranus.

[SirAndrewD]

I know that we are always on topic here at Grogheads and to divert from the conversation is virtually unheard of, but I like where this thread has gone.

[Windigo]

Jewish Space Lasers  are no more capable than Canada's Beaver Catapults - hypersonic delivery of forested ecosystem doom anywhere in the world.

[FarAway Sooner]

Wow.  I'm not sure what I expected to find when I clicked on this thread today, but it wasn't this.

I am particularly humbled by Sir Slash's...  creativity.

;D

[Gusington]

[Sir Slash]

Hey, I thought the Jewish Space Lasers were still a secret until Star let the cat outta the bag.

[JasonPratt]

As Ben Shaprio said, with an amused sigh, "The first rule of the Jewish Space Lasers, is that you don't talk about the Jewish Space Lasers!"

Although, if Israel has satellites in orbit, and if they use lasers for rangefinding and/or mapping, then by deduction...!  8)

Also -- and admittedly I can't prove this is not my imagination instead of memory, because it would be awesome -- but I thought I heard or read somewhere pretty reliable in the past few months, that the US is helping Israel develop an update to the Iron Dome defense system which would use ground-based, um, space lasers for want of a better term.   

[GDS_Starfury]

I think its more like the US is looking to buy updated Iron Dome systems.
kind of like the US Army buying lots on new Trophy kits for the M1A2 sep4 upgrade.

[ArizonaTank]

Zelensky talking about why he is not negotiating with the Russians:

"...we are dealing with who we are dealing with. Until they get smashed in the face, they won't understand anything."

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/zelenskyy-says-there-s-no-point-in-negotiating-with-russia-until-it-gets-smashed-in-the-face-and-all-ukrainian-territories-are-liberated/ar-AAZS8Ly?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=d1dfd56824d34b11a6746acefb84538e

[FarAway Sooner]

One "benefit" of the US furnishing Ukraine with military hardware is that they're drawing down their stockpiles of some of the less cutting edge stuff.  This way, if the US military has to ever start shooting at an enemy, we can blow them up with $200,000 ATGMs when $40,000 ATGMs would have worked just as well, but without the economic stimulus effect!

I now return you guys to the discussion of the Jewish Space Lasers.

[GDS_Starfury]

you do realize that our production lines are going to be and have been busy as hell providing skilled jobs right.

[MOS:96B2P]

Interesting article.  Below are a few lines from the article.   

During the counteroffensive in the Kherson region, the Ukrainian Armed Forces encircled three battalion tactical groups of the Russian Army, including a special forces (VDV) company and a tank company. Up to 2,000 Russian troops are in the operational encirclement near the village of Vysokopillya.

Russian troops are also facing encirclement near the village of Arkhanhelske, where the Ukrainian military successfully crossed the Ingulets River threatening Russian positions on the left bank.

https://uawire.org/more-than-1-000-russian-troops-encircled-by-ukrainian-forces-in-kherson-region#

[FarAway Sooner]

you do realize that our production lines are going to be and have been busy as hell providing skilled jobs right.

Yes.  My post was intended as both tongue-in-cheek and largely accurate at the same time.

I view our obligations to our military and our allies very seriously, but I view the hardware/procurement angle much more cynically than most here.  The upgrading and refreshing of ordinance is a very real benefit.  It's just also an expensive one. 

I get the sense that most of our military aid to Ukraine has come in the form of reinvestments we're having to make in our own inventories.  I think that's a much smarter use of U.S. tax payer dollars than if we were buying weapons from The Czech Republic or France and sending them to Ukraine.

[GDS_Starfury]

I get the sense that most of our military aid to Ukraine has come in the form of reinvestments we're having to make in our own inventories.  I think that's a much smarter use of U.S. tax payer dollars than if we were buying weapons from The Czech Republic or France and sending them to Ukraine.

yes.  we get the new stuff and Ukraine gets the old.
a great example are the cluster warhead mlrs that we're giving them.

[JasonPratt]

you do realize that our production lines are going to be and have been busy as hell providing skilled jobs right.

I read that at first as a reply to "I now return you guys to the discussion of the Jewish Space Lasers."  :D  :bd: