Russia's War Against Ukraine

[FarAway Sooner]

Thanks for the article above, Star.  It's hard to argue that the situation around the F-35 hasn't improved dramatically from where it was 10 years ago.  However, even the article you cited makes it pretty clear that ongoing support costs remains a major risk area, with different parties seeing very different risk profiles there. 

It's not uncommon for weapon systems to face tremendous problems in the project phase and end up having a great service life.  But, until we see how the maintenance costs play out in the coming years, I'm not sure either of you can claim victory in this debate.

I'll let you and ComradeP figure out which of you was right in 2032!    :)

[Gusington]

^heh

[al_infierno]

I'll let you and ComradeP figure out which of you was right in 2032!    :)

;D The grognard forum debate special!  Twenty plus years in the making ;)

[GDS_Starfury]

[GDS_Starfury]

I remember growing up reading about all of the problems with the F-4, F-15, F-14, B-1, B-2 and the LWF competition that spawned the F-16 and F-18.
he can complain all he wants about the program but in comparison its about as golden path as ya get.
add to that that the Israelis love it and if it has their stamp of approval.....  :bd:

[Gusington]

^That should have been your opening remark!

[Crossroads]

I remember growing up reading about all of the problems with the F-4, F-15, F-14, B-1, B-2 and the LWF competition that spawned the F-16 and F-18.
he can complain all he wants about the program but in comparison its about as golden path as ya get.
add to that that the Israelis love it and if it has their stamp of approval.....  :bd:

There's the recent decision by Finnish Air Force to jump in at Block4 as well.

Within the evaluation, F-35 was not only found out to be the most capable contender, but its operating costs were judged to fit the specified envelope as well.

I guess we're about to find out. First patch of deliveries in 2025. 

[acctingman]

Just read an article on Yahoo about Russian soldiers castrating Ukrainian POW's. If this is true, nuke the fuckers

[Gusington]

 >:(

Link?

[Crossroads]

It's there, do not watch it. Sick stuff. I am trying to unsee the half second I saw of it  :(

[Dammit Carl!]

Just read an article on Yahoo about Russian soldiers castrating Ukrainian POW's. If this is true, nuke the fuckers

"Man, they sure hate us, don't they?"
"Yeah.  Hey!  Let's make them hate us more!"

[Gusington]

Jesus

[GDS_Starfury]

the sick fuck has already been identified.  name, home address, the lot.

[Con]

Lots of reports of torture and executions at the Russian POW camps. The Russians are treating their Ukrainian brothers as bad as they did the German/Nazi pows. The Germans put the Soviets through 5 years of Genocidal horror. The Ukrainians only asked to be left alone and Defended what was theirs after the Russians invaded. Humans suck but I hope the Ukrainians put a hit squad out on these sick bastards like the Israelies did to the Nazis.

Con
Ps one of the indications of over 40 Ukr pows killed in a mistaken air strike is now suspected to be the Russian Wagner group trying to cover up their war crimes

[Gusington]

Today's the first day I've read about castrating. A new low? Probably not. Found the below image on BBC...it uses the cover art from Cossacks 3 for its background and reads: Zaporizhzhia, land of death to the occupiers