Russia's War Against Ukraine

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Crossroads

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Russia running out of modern weaponry is fake news shared by the degenerate west with a purpose of deluting the minds of peaceful workers and peasants.

These are not - and I repeat not - Mosin Nagant M91s of the 1891 design.

They are in fact Mosin Nagant M91/30s, indeed modernised in 1930s, and not the old ones. So there.

(What is going on there how come they don't have AK's of older variants if not the latest ones  :o )



source:

QuoteRuskies with the rifles from 1914

https://twitter.com/golub/status/1573228485543432196


Edit: Winter caps, no leaves on trees, maybe this is an say April drill for the May 5th parade. This does not really make sense otherwise. So this might be fake news, actually.
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^ More pictures of Mosin Nagants in active use  :o

edit original uncropped photo so at least a few AKs around too:



Quote"When the one with the rifle gets killed, the one who is following picks up the rifle and SHOOTS!"

https://twitter.com/vcdgf555/status/1573136922163421185
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Those guys have got all the latest gear- gym bags, cheap back packs, and on the right even a department-store shopping bag...
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Crossroads

Quote from: Staggerwing on September 23, 2022, 05:37:16 AM
Those guys have got all the latest gear- gym bags, cheap back packs, and on the right even a department-store shopping bag...
No leaves on trees on neither photograph, so despite tweeted today, I believe these both are old pictures from say early spring.
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Staggerwing

So by now thew new recruits are probably getting paper grocery bags
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Pete Dero

Quote from: Crossroads on September 23, 2022, 06:16:48 AM
Quote from: Staggerwing on September 23, 2022, 05:37:16 AM
Those guys have got all the latest gear- gym bags, cheap back packs, and on the right even a department-store shopping bag...
No leaves on trees on neither photograph, so despite tweeted today, I believe these both are old pictures from say early spring.

Original source : https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1248637500588949505 : Cadets at a Military Medical Academy in St. Petersburg have continued to rehearse for the Victory Day Parade (2020).

So : fake indeed.

ArizonaTank

Quote from: Pete Dero on September 23, 2022, 07:13:10 AM
Quote from: Crossroads on September 23, 2022, 06:16:48 AM
Quote from: Staggerwing on September 23, 2022, 05:37:16 AM
Those guys have got all the latest gear- gym bags, cheap back packs, and on the right even a department-store shopping bag...
No leaves on trees on neither photograph, so despite tweeted today, I believe these both are old pictures from say early spring.

Original source : https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1248637500588949505 : Cadets at a Military Medical Academy in St. Petersburg have continued to rehearse for the Victory Day Parade (2020).

So : fake indeed.

Yeah...I wonder about these types of pictures as well, and I don't really put much consideration into them.

When I was in ROTC in the 80s, we occasionally trained with inert Springfields...and we probably toted around some strange looking luggage as well. If the Soviets ever got a picture of us, I'm sure they had a good laugh at the 'American cadets training for WWI.' 

I think the pictures that count are the ones taken from the front lines. If you see a unit of guys on the front line with Mosins...that would be something to really consider.
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Pete Dero

Quote from: ArizonaTank on September 23, 2022, 08:22:10 AM
I think the pictures that count are the ones taken from the front lines. If you see a unit of guys on the front line with Mosins...that would be something to really consider.

You shouldn't laugh at Russians for fake images. There are plenty of real images to laugh at  ;).

JasonPratt

Russia: Of course we don't use weapons from long ago, that would be silly.

Also Russia: UNLEASH THE T-60s!  :bd:
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That second picture they look like they were scoped so maybe they were the detachment snipers?

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Quote from: JasonPratt on September 23, 2022, 09:06:10 AM
Russia: Of course we don't use weapons from long ago, that would be silly.

Also Russia: UNLEASH THE T-60s!  :bd:

Don't know about T-60s. I think those go back a little too far...even for Putin.

But the T-62s do seem to be on the move.

As in this very recent video:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/video-shows-old-russian-tanks-taken-out-of-storage-to-be-used-in-ukraine/ar-AA12al7f
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Quote from: SirAndrewD on September 22, 2022, 04:14:39 PM
Quote from: Gusington on September 22, 2022, 04:00:21 PM
I'm not trying to be funny but I thought Eritrea was better than that. Nicaragua too. Guess I better read up.

You shouldn't think that. 

Nicaragua is under Ortega, the Sandinista dictator from the 80's that was fought against by the US backed Contras.  The people of Nicaragua wanted him despite years of CIA funded wars to depose him.  He's very, very anti-American and pro Russia, the Soviets always supported him.

Eritrea is under Isaias.  Another dictatorship that is highly tied to Moscow.  Isaias has made a habit of eliminating his opposition brutally an and solidifying his regime.

Off topic, but if you look at Nicaraguan history, there are reasons for the anti-american sentiment.
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JasonPratt

And now for today's entry in the JfingCRussia news:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/nuclear-war-already-a-given-says-russian-tv-everyone-will-be-destroyed/ar-AA129Wfo?ocid=entnewsntp&pc=U531&cvid=108973e08e274630ad85a3ae3502f02e

The key point of propaganda here, is that Putin is trying to position things (for his population) that the United States and the West generally, plus Ukraine, want to see Russia destroyed; and the only way to destroy Russia is with nuclear weapons (probably not true at this point!); thus Putin is declaring that he will use nukes, too (or maybe first) so that everyone will be destroyed if Russia will be destroyed.

Of course, this translates over to Putin using nukes if he thinks (or even feels) like his regime will be destroyed, since that would be the equivalent of the West using nukes on Russia in its functional consequences. (Even though he insists the only way to take out his regime, thus 'destroying' Russia, would be to use nukes on him.)
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