Russia's War Against Ukraine

[al_infierno]

I'm sure the administration that didn't mind throwing away all that money, effort, and weapons in Afghanistan....will do a much better job of managing things this time.

I don't know why you keep comparing this to Afghanistan when it's clearly apples to oranges.  To quote Jules Winnfield, "It ain't the same ballpark, it ain't the same league, it ain't even the same sport!" 

If you're picking a bone with a specific "administration" of current/recent years, please keep it out of this thread because that's R&P turf.

[Jarhead0331]

If you're picking a bone with a specific "administration" of current/recent years, please keep it out of this thread because that's R&P turf.

Exactly. Everyone move on please. The discussion of aid to Ukraine is only proper to the extent it focuses on its impact on the war and the strategic situation.

[ArizonaTank]

Russia's Wagner Group executes one of its own with a sledgehammer to the head and publishes the video.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/sledgehammer-execution-of-russian-mercenary-who-defected-to-ukraine-shown-in-video/ar-AA1443Lx?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=f2b021ffd15243079b9d082e28937795

This video is "unverified," but the head of Wagner Group (Prigozhin) said that the video should be called "A dog receives a dog's death".

This is real Isis-type stuff.

Just reminds me of the old Maya Angelou quote: "When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time."

[Gusington]

That is...horrendous

[Crossroads]

Just reminds me of the old Maya Angelou quote: "When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time."

Another atrocity on their long list of atrocities, with a difference this time they did it to one of their own. No wonder Ukrainians are determined to fight the Russians off from their occupied territories no matter what. (I have not watched nor will I watch that video, but have seen enough about its details in written form)

Seems Russia is determined to do their utmost to keep the Western democracies supporting Ukraine, despite breaking of that will pretty much their only remaining option to get something out from this war of theirs.

Torture chambers, all sorts of horrors revealed everywhere they were chased out from. The military formation that did the atrocities in Bucha was decorated, let us not forget that.

[Sir Slash]

I won't watch it. Geez, is a bullet to brain too painless for these people? I've just been reading, Island Infernos about the Army's war in the Pacific. The battles were brutal beyond compare but no one tried to sensationalize it or broadcast their brutality to others.  :hide:

[Jarhead0331]

I won't watch it. Geez, is a bullet to brain too painless for these people? I've just been reading, Island Infernos about the Army's war in the Pacific. The battles were brutal beyond compare but no one tried to sensationalize it or broadcast their brutality to others.  :hide:

Maybe the Russians are out of bullets now too?

[Crossroads]

On a lighter note, an indicative estimate of Ukrainian losses. Saving Private Raccoon! 



https://twitter.com/MicZiel/status/1592038149051805698

[JasonPratt]

I get the joke except for the raccoon -- did someone film the Orks absconding with one?!

[Windigo]

Plus one rare/endangered Ukrainian Hamster (true - Wagner apparently also is sadistic to animals, not just people)

[Gusington]

They killed an adorable fucking hamster?

[ArizonaTank]

I get the joke except for the raccoon -- did someone film the Orks absconding with one?!

Yes, it has become great meme fuel in Ukraine. When the Russians left Kherson, they stole the Raccoon from the zoo; there is a video.

https://english.nv.ua/nation/ukrainians-react-to-theft-of-kherson-zoo-raccoon-by-russian-soldiers-50283755.html

According to our man Denys Davydov, there is even an online petition to add the 'return of the raccoon' to Ukraine's official demands for peace.

[ArizonaTank]

Ukrainians may be keeping the heat on the Kherson retreat...

I have seen several "rumors" of Ukrainian landings at Kinburn Spit (that little finger of land sticking out into the Black Sea on the Russian side of the Dnieper).

Forbes and Sky News have reported possible landings...being careful to characterize the information as "rumors."

https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2022/11/14/a-strategic-strip-of-sand-rumors-of-ukrainian-raids-as-russian-forces-retreat-keep-an-eye-on-the-kinburn-spit/?sh=2d0d8908304d

If so, it might be a way to get around Russian fortifications opposite Kherson.

Or, could just be raids to keep the Russians off-balance.

Or, could just be Ukrainian head fake.

If true, I would think they are just raids. Would be difficult for the Ukrainians to sustain a real offensive from there...and easy for the Russians to eventually seal them off. But then again, many classic attacks in history, come from where the enemy is least expecting it....

[Sir Slash]

And now the poor raccoon has been, 'mobilized' into the army no doubt. "Pvt. R.A. Coon from Kherson. Thank you for volunteering private". With the Russians record, he'll be an officer shortly.  ;D

[FarAway Sooner]

And now the poor raccoon has been, 'mobilized' into the army no doubt. "Pvt. R.A. Coon from Kherson. Thank you for volunteering private". With the Russians record, he'll be an officer shortly.  ;D

My thinking is that they just promote him to Master Sergeant.  Once he becomes an officer, he gets to start dipping into the paychecks of all the enlisted soldiers who aren't actually physically present in the unit.  I doubt the Russian officer ranks would want to have to share stolen money with a racoon.