Russia's War Against Ukraine

[Gusington]

^+1 - exactly the kind of 'error' that we all were fearing could lead to a wider war.

That said, I'm sure (hoping) the Polish ministers were on the phone immediately with NATO counterparts, who would calm them down and help assess exactly wtf is going on.

[SirAndrewD]

Vengeance!

Release the Winged Hussars!

[JasonPratt]

Step q: after pissing off the Cossacks, piss off the Hussars.

[Windigo]

While the response (whatever it is) should be muted and restrained; there does need to be a response. I think Poland giving the Ukraine those Migs might be appropriate.

[bobarossa]

Or maybe declaring you will intercept any missiles that come within x miles of natural borders.  X based on reaction time needed to intercept missiles before crossing border. If that happens to cover Lvov, all the better.

[Dammit Carl!]

Step q: after pissing off the Cossacks, piss off the Hussars.

Right?!?

Belarus' pucker factor is doubtlessly through the roof at this point.

Anyone up for a game of Twilight 2000?

[Gusington]

NO! Well not in reality, anyway.

[Gusington]

'A moment for cool heads.'

[Gusington]

Finding a lot of good content today.

[ArizonaTank]

I'm 90% sure the attack on Poland was a mistake.

However, it sounds like there were more than one missile. If the weapons were fairly smart, then having multiple similar malfunctions just doesn't cut it. Probably gross incompetence.

Or, maybe there are hotheads in the Russian military...wanting to lash out at NATO...and this might be a scary possibility.

If I thought that Putin was really smart enough to be playing 5D chess, and that he was five moves ahead already, I might see a few weird possible scenarios where he might make limited attacks on NATO...but those would be crazy...and risk nuclear war.

[SirAndrewD]

Oh boy, Scott Ritter, the guy that claimed the Ukrainians killed their own people in the Bucha massacre as a false flag to frame the Russians.  Did the interviewer manage to get him on by claiming to be an underage girl?

[Gusington]

^He did also make a bunch of Ukrainian/Nazi remarks, and kind of borderline/virtually snuggled with Putin. Beyond that he did break me out of a fantasy world where Ukraine could possibly take all their land back. I dunno...

[SirAndrewD]

^He did also make a bunch of Ukrainian/Nazi remarks, and kind of borderline/virtually snuggled with Putin. Beyond that he did break me out of a fantasy world where Ukraine could possibly take all their land back. I dunno...

Yeah, I listened to him and I agree that achieving some kind of extreme battlefield success where the Russians are totally run out of Ukraine is at best a pipe dream.  I too just really see no way where Crimea and the far eastern chunks of the Donbas will be able to return successfully. 

I just can't help but take Ritter with a grain of salt considering his checkered and jumpsuit orange colored past.  I know he knows his subject but he is also currently on the list of noted active Kremlin propagandists and for some pretty good reasons.

[al_infierno]

In further breaking news, the pizza place near the Pentagon is on high alert.  🤔

[Windigo]

Real News Network????? Real News. Seriously? I am for balancing one's news sources, but them???

And Andrew, everything but the Crimea is definitely doable IMO. Especially if the AFU keeps the pressure on all winter and keeps messing with their logistics.