Russia's War Against Ukraine

[Groggy]

Not unlike MH17 expect a firehose of conspiracy theories/disinformation from russia to slow down analysis and distract from the truth.

[Jarhead0331]

Not unlike MH17 expect a firehose of conspiracy theories/disinformation from russia to slow down analysis and distract from the truth.

True, but wasn't that airliner downed over territory controlled by Russia and their separatists? As such, they were able to control and limit access to the wreckage and tamper with evidence. Here, the missiles fell in Polish territory far from Russian assets. Hopefully, this will prevent Russia from obfuscating much.

[JasonPratt]

They might try to claim that Ukraine shot their missiles into Poland to try to frame Russia. But they'll have trouble getting around any radar evidence, if so.

[Windigo]

They might try to claim that Ukraine shot their missiles into Poland to try to frame Russia. But they'll have trouble getting around any radar evidence, if so.

Not surprisingly, it appears that NATO does indeed have radar evidence that they have shared with Poland.

[JasonPratt]

If Ukraine acknowledges they did it by accident while shooting at incoming missiles, that would also defuse a lot of Russian attempts at gobbledegook.

[Gusington]

^Yes that would be a great boon against insanity and WWIII.

[FarAway Sooner]

In further breaking news, the pizza place near the Pentagon is on high alert.  🤔

For the record, I used to live two blocks from this Pizza Hut.

The Pentagon had that particular vulnerability revealed years ago.  Now they're just relying on a fancy new weapons system that they call "The MX Food Truck"!    8)

[ArizonaTank]

I hope that Ukraine would be as transparent as possible with NATO. Bad things can happen where tensions are high. Even small mistakes can cost lives. Even the US has had incidents.

So far in this war it seems the Ukrainians understand that being transparent and cooperative with NATO gets them far more than trying to be protective and secretive (with the possible exception of some of Ukraine's special ops).

It seems to me like Ukraine does understand this. But I really don't know.

Who does know? The NATO people on the ground dealing with Ukraine every day could tell you...but diplomatic and military protocols prevent them from saying anything (as is good and proper in my book).

However, usually if there is friction, after nine months, we would be hearing that by now. But so far, the only little leaks here and there seem to be positive towards the Ukrainians.

[Windigo]

I am not a leader (anal?... snicker), but I think I would be inclined to co-operate with anyone providing me with hightech weapons like HIMARS, javelins and BitchSlapper 3000s.

[Jarhead0331]

In further breaking news, the pizza place near the Pentagon is on high alert.  🤔

For the record, I used to live two blocks from this Pizza Hut.

The Pentagon had that particular vulnerability revealed years ago.  Now they're just relying on a fancy new weapons system that they call "The MX Food Truck"!    8)

I thought the old tale was that the most dangerous place at the Pentagon was at a small hot dog stand that the Soviets believed was some kind of super secret, high-tech surveillance equipment. Apparently, they had several megatons of warheads aimed at the shack.

[GDS_Starfury]

russians.....   ::)

https://twitter.com/i/status/1592907340139102209

to bad it didnt blow.

[SirAndrewD]

russians.....   ::)

https://twitter.com/i/status/1592907340139102209

to bad it didnt blow.

Well, much like divorce Vodka makes war more bearable I guess.

[ArizonaTank]

russians.....   ::)

https://twitter.com/i/status/1592907340139102209

to bad it didnt blow.

The 'look what I just did' smile in the last second of the video is all you need to know.

[Sir Slash]

Sir Andrew just gave me the line I'm going to have put on my gravestone.  O0

[FarAway Sooner]

Good discussion on the role and effectiveness of aviation in the war.

It got lost quickly in the ebb and flow of the daily news (?) cycle, but this is an excellent and very detailed analysis.  It doesn't paint nearly as rosy a picture of the air war as many of us had gleaned from various media reports.