Russia's War Against Ukraine

Started by ArizonaTank, November 26, 2021, 04:54:38 PM

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FarAway Sooner

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Gus, if there's one thing we've learned from this thread, it's that we have to be specific in our language.  If it carries a fixed weapon of any sort (apparently including a snap-on LMG), it's a pick-up tank as opposed to a pick-up truck.

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GDS_Starfury

QuoteThose who do not study history are doomed to continue discovering that house-to-house fighting against Russianesque defenders is like hell.

going by all the shit theyve lost so far I wouldnt be surprised to see some ISU-152s show up.
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Quote from: Gusington on January 06, 2023, 11:57:06 AM
^Is that a Toyota Land Cruiser pickup?? Hahaha

I wondered who would notice!

Quote from: FarAway Sooner on January 06, 2023, 12:41:10 PM
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Gus, if there's one thing we've learned from this thread, it's that we have to be specific in our language.  If it carries a fixed weapon of any sort (apparently including a snap-on LMG), it's a pick-up tank as opposed to a pick-up truck.

Pretty sure that truck had zero fixed weapons of any sort. So... it's an infantry fighting truck. Wait no, a pick-up personnel carrier.
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Sorry, when I say the weapons are "fixed", I just mean "mechanically attached" (as opposed to attached using duct tape or Super Glue).  "Affixed" might have been a more appropriate term.  Using that logic, it only takes one screw or bolt affixing the MG to the bed of the Toyota to render it a Pick-Up Tank.

I get why we haven't yet sent our most modern heavy MBTs to Ukraine, but I'm a little surprised that this is the first time we've sent them anything that could be confused with a tank.  I disagree with the decision to not sending longer-range ATACMS missiles to Ukraine for fear of provoking a Russian nuclear response, but it seems bizarre to me that sending anything heavier than a Humvee was viewed as a major escalation in a conventional military conflict.

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elmo made some dumbass remarks about tanks today and twitter is having a field day with it.
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Jarhead - Yeah. You're probably right.

Gus - I use sweatpants with flannel shorts to soak up my crotch sweat.

Banzai Cat - There is no "partial credit" in grammar. Like anal sex. It's either in, or it's not.

Mirth - We learned long ago that they key isn't to outrun Star, it's to outrun Gus.

Martok - I don't know if it's possible to have an "anti-boner"...but I now have one.

Gus - Celery is vile and has no reason to exist. Like underwear on Star.


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Quote from: GDS_Starfury on January 07, 2023, 03:55:07 PM
elmo made some dumbass remarks about tanks today and twitter is having a field day with it.
Best quote I read is that he has first hand experience of tanking.  Twitter stock that is

In the other hand Phillip OBrien who I think does a really good job in macro approach to war is somewhat in agreement with Elon on tanks and their capabilities under inadequate air superiority on each side.

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FarAway Sooner

Quote from: Crossroads on January 07, 2023, 01:44:03 PM
Lawrence Freedman with a new article. A solid read, again.

https://open.substack.com/pub/samf/p/makiiva-and-bakhmut-the-impact-of?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email

Excellent article, Crossroads.  I wish anything about the Russian conduct of this war were more predictable.

Crossroads

Quote from: FarAway Sooner on January 07, 2023, 10:25:01 PM
Quote from: Crossroads on January 07, 2023, 01:44:03 PM
Lawrence Freedman with a new article. A solid read, again.

https://open.substack.com/pub/samf/p/makiiva-and-bakhmut-the-impact-of?utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email

Excellent article, Crossroads.  I wish anything about the Russian conduct of this war were more predictable.

I just read agin his articles from the beginning of Russian invasion. Already on March 3 he called this a war Russia can't win, with their plans A and B exhausted.
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^One fly in the ointment of a powerful Poland is their declining population...they need people to operate all the hardware they're building and buying.


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