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Title: Site Housekeeping
Post by: Jarhead0331 on January 12, 2023, 06:35:43 PM
All:

We've hired a professional to do some housekeeping, upgrading and enhancing of the site. You may notice some irregularities, errors, warnings, etc. while this process is ongoing.

The end result will benefit everyone!

Thanks for your patience and understanding.
Title: Re: Site Housekeeping
Post by: Jarhead0331 on January 12, 2023, 08:06:15 PM
Test post. This is only a test post.
Title: Re: Site Housekeeping
Post by: Gusington on January 12, 2023, 08:34:03 PM
Oh dear.
Title: Re: Site Housekeeping
Post by: bobarossa on January 12, 2023, 08:41:42 PM
I feel like I've taken drugs!  My world is spinning!
Title: Re: Site Housekeeping
Post by: Jarhead0331 on January 12, 2023, 09:16:03 PM
Definitely going to take some getting used to, but it is much cleaner and more streamlined. Also, more mobile friendly...and the best part?

We have a stripper!

 :privatedancer:
Title: Re: Site Housekeeping
Post by: Gusington on January 12, 2023, 09:17:53 PM
Finally  :afro:
Title: Re: Site Housekeeping
Post by: Dammit Carl! on January 12, 2023, 09:27:21 PM
 :woot2:  :woot2:  :woot2:
Title: Re: Site Housekeeping
Post by: Staggerwing on January 12, 2023, 10:00:02 PM
Quick, someone check if Spock has a goatee!
Title: Re: Site Housekeeping
Post by: Sigwolf on January 12, 2023, 10:08:13 PM
Maybe it's just because I'm old, and hate change, but the new forum look is much more glaring to me than the prior one.  Any chance of a dark mode in the future?
Title: Re: Site Housekeeping
Post by: GDS_Starfury on January 12, 2023, 10:22:38 PM
it is rather bright.
Title: Re: Site Housekeeping
Post by: Jarhead0331 on January 12, 2023, 10:35:48 PM
Nothing is finalized yet. The first goal is to stabilize, secure and modernize the forum. Then we will focus on look, aesthetics and functionality.

All of your feedback is appreciated.
Title: Re: Site Housekeeping
Post by: CJReich46 on January 12, 2023, 10:49:16 PM
It's very organized. Plus nice abundance of smileys.  :grin: 

:cthulhu_smiley: approves
Title: Re: Site Housekeeping
Post by: al_infierno on January 13, 2023, 12:41:53 AM
This is officially the best emoji: :jarhead0331:
Title: Re: Site Housekeeping
Post by: solops on January 13, 2023, 12:47:21 AM
Quote from: Staggerwing on January 12, 2023, 10:00:02 PMQuick, someone check if Spock has a goatee!

Let's stay focused on the important things. Now, JH, what about the stripper?
Title: Re: Site Housekeeping
Post by: GDS_Starfury on January 13, 2023, 01:26:47 AM
any way to directly link twitter type stuff the same way youtube is handled?
Title: Re: Site Housekeeping
Post by: Jarhead0331 on January 13, 2023, 07:26:22 AM
Quote from: GDS_Starfury on January 13, 2023, 01:26:47 AMany way to directly link twitter type stuff the same way youtube is handled?

Probably, but would require a mod or add-on. I'll look for one.
Title: Re: Site Housekeeping
Post by: JasonPratt on January 13, 2023, 08:12:32 AM
All our old smilies are back!  :twirl:
Title: Re: Site Housekeeping
Post by: Jarhead0331 on January 13, 2023, 09:07:12 AM
Quote from: GDS_Starfury on January 13, 2023, 01:26:47 AMany way to directly link twitter type stuff the same way youtube is handled?

I don't use Twitter so I really do not know how tweets work, but I updated the latest version of the auto tweet embedder for the forum so it should be able to be done. Give it a try I guess.
Title: Re: Site Housekeeping
Post by: Anguille on January 13, 2023, 10:06:21 AM
 :startrekbadge:

Will need some time to get used to this
Title: Re: Site Housekeeping
Post by: steve58 on January 13, 2023, 10:07:07 AM
So yesterday afternoon I decided to take the plunge into Windows 11. Went fairly smoothly...some new things to get used to.

This morning I went to check Grogheads.  Had to do the username/password logon.  I thought it a little odd that Windows 11 had changed the look of the forum so much...and then I saw this thread. :uglystupid2:

One thing I did notice when I logged in, was I was limited to staying logged in for only 30 days...no more 'infinite' logons???  :huh:
Title: Re: Site Housekeeping
Post by: Jarhead0331 on January 13, 2023, 10:25:25 AM
Quote from: steve58 on January 13, 2023, 10:07:07 AMOne thing I did notice when I logged in, was I was limited to staying logged in for only 30 days...no more 'infinite' logons???  :huh:

"Forever" is the first option in the pull-down box for me. Check again. It should be there.
Title: Re: Site Housekeeping
Post by: Gusington on January 13, 2023, 10:44:33 AM
Are our avatar images actually gone or is it just my personal settings?
Title: Re: Site Housekeeping
Post by: Jarhead0331 on January 13, 2023, 10:52:10 AM
Quote from: Gusington on January 13, 2023, 10:44:33 AMAre our avatar images actually gone or is it just my personal settings?

I see them all. Must be your settings.
Title: Re: Site Housekeeping
Post by: Gusington on January 13, 2023, 10:55:21 AM
Hmm, ok...(starts futzing)
Title: Re: Site Housekeeping
Post by: JasonPratt on January 13, 2023, 11:06:00 AM
I can see everyone's avatar, too, without any adjustment.

Quote from: solops on January 13, 2023, 12:47:21 AMLet's stay focused on the important things. Now, JH, what about the stripper?

I think what you're looking for is Area 51...
Title: Re: Site Housekeeping
Post by: steve58 on January 13, 2023, 11:08:05 AM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on January 13, 2023, 10:25:25 AM
Quote from: steve58 on January 13, 2023, 10:07:07 AMOne thing I did notice when I logged in, was I was limited to staying logged in for only 30 days...no more 'infinite' logons???  :huh:

"Forever" is the first option in the pull-down box for me. Check again. It should be there.

Yup, 'forever' was there.  I'm going to blame my eyeglasses...
Title: Re: Site Housekeeping
Post by: Sir Slash on January 13, 2023, 11:15:43 AM
Question. Are the stripper and the professional housekeeper the same person? Because we could probably get away with only paying her once for both jobs.  :nono2:
Title: Re: Site Housekeeping
Post by: W8taminute on January 13, 2023, 12:15:32 PM
I absolutely love this new setup.  Great job guys.  :ThumbsUp:
Title: Re: Site Housekeeping
Post by: Gusington on January 13, 2023, 12:50:31 PM
The stripper/housekeeper is in the union, so no shenanigans.
Title: Re: Site Housekeeping
Post by: JasonPratt on January 13, 2023, 02:10:45 PM
Or saucy French Maid outfits.
Title: Re: Site Housekeeping
Post by: 88mmkwk on January 13, 2023, 05:01:26 PM
I must admit that I do miss the previous start view I had that included the most recent unread posts in a top window followed by the categorized forum list in a second window right below it.  This allowed me to quickly determine if there were any new posts I hadn't read - if not - quickly nav to the Computer Games section if nothing showed up top.  Can still accomplish the same thing in the new look/feel, just have to separately click to do so.  Not a show stopper - just a change to something I was previously comfortable with and found handy....
Title: Re: Site Housekeeping
Post by: 88mmkwk on January 13, 2023, 05:05:09 PM
Also, the non-collapsible and non-movable links section on the top of the forum page takes up prime real estate, and after having been on the forum a while, having it always up top is less than ideal IMHO if it can't be collapsed...
Title: Re: Site Housekeeping
Post by: 88mmkwk on January 13, 2023, 05:26:13 PM
So I'm "Kinda" finding Grog areas I like that got moved around with the site revamping, but find it a bit scattered.  Some unsolicited thoughts after a bit of time in the new dimension:


Anyway, just a few thoughts even though nobody asked.....
Title: Re: Site Housekeeping
Post by: Jarhead0331 on January 13, 2023, 05:31:12 PM
^Your first point is a priority of mine. I loved that recent post index at the top of the page. Unfortunately, that functionality was afforded by a modification and the author of the mod has not updated it since 2019 and it is no longer compatible with the current version of the forum software. We are looking at options and other possibilities, but in the end, the benefits of having updated the forum software FAR exceed the inconvenience posed by the loss of the recent post index.

All that being said, we are working on it and it is a personal priority of mine.

Thanks for all of your suggestions.
Title: Re: Site Housekeeping
Post by: Gusington on January 13, 2023, 06:06:11 PM
Users can click the 'Unread Posts' option in the top left and while it's not automatic, it's one click away.
Title: Re: Site Housekeeping
Post by: undercovergeek on January 13, 2023, 06:45:38 PM
Quote from: Gusington on January 13, 2023, 06:06:11 PMUsers can click the 'Unread Posts' option in the top left and while it's not automatic, it's one click away.

Using the unread posts as always but it does take you to page one of the thread not the end - I know it's only another button click
Title: Re: Site Housekeeping
Post by: Father Ted on January 13, 2023, 06:47:39 PM
Well that came out of the blue!  Liking it!
Title: Re: Site Housekeeping
Post by: GDS_Starfury on January 13, 2023, 07:29:16 PM
and you dont have to spend $8 a month on a blue check mark!  :ThumbsUp:
Title: Re: Site Housekeeping
Post by: Jarhead0331 on January 14, 2023, 04:12:22 PM
I've made the Links section collapsible so if you don't like those cluttering the top of the page, you can close them out. Hopefully this helps.
Title: Re: Site Housekeeping
Post by: Jarhead0331 on January 14, 2023, 10:30:06 PM
The format for embedding youtube videos seems to have changed and videos posted before the forum update appear to be broken.

To embed a video, simply get the share link from youtube as previously and click the youtube button in the tool bar. Paste the link into the pop-up box and the code will automatically be written into the post. The url will look "off" but it works.
Title: Re: Site Housekeeping
Post by: JasonPratt on January 15, 2023, 10:55:17 AM
Yeah, the new site engineers will have to do a search for all {youtube} codes which have http: in them, and replace with only the id part of the code (or delete the code up to the id).

If that's even possible.
Title: Re: Site Housekeeping
Post by: Jarhead0331 on January 15, 2023, 10:59:46 AM
Quote from: JasonPratt on January 15, 2023, 10:55:17 AMYeah, the new site engineers will have to do a search for all {youtube} codes which have http: in them, and replace with only the id part of the code (or delete the code up to the id).

If that's even possible.

That isn't going to happen at the hourly rate we're paying the "new site engineers". If you need to fix a youtube link in one of your posts, we humbly ask that you do it yourself.
Title: Re: Site Housekeeping
Post by: kludger on February 01, 2023, 02:16:06 PM
New site is looking great, also the new css now works with Dark Reader extension for dark mode, the work is much appreciated.
Title: Re: Site Housekeeping
Post by: Jarhead0331 on February 01, 2023, 02:43:15 PM
Quote from: kludger on February 01, 2023, 02:16:06 PMNew site is looking great, also the new css now works with Dark Reader extension for dark mode, the work is much appreciated.

Thank you for saying so.
Title: Re: Site Housekeeping
Post by: Sigwolf on February 01, 2023, 07:26:59 PM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on February 01, 2023, 02:43:15 PM
Quote from: kludger on February 01, 2023, 02:16:06 PMNew site is looking great, also the new css now works with Dark Reader extension for dark mode, the work is much appreciated.

Thank you for saying so.
Yes, and I, for one, have been remiss in saying so, as well.  My initial post was negative about the brightness.  That issue still stands, but Dark Reader has alleviated that. I would still love a native dark mode, but the overall improvements to site functionality have been fantastic.  The forum operation is really smooth now.
Title: Re: Site Housekeeping
Post by: Jarhead0331 on February 01, 2023, 07:43:43 PM
...and importantly, we're secure! No more redirects!
Title: Re: Site Housekeeping
Post by: Gusington on February 01, 2023, 08:58:39 PM
How does the dark reader work? I'd like to use it.
Title: Re: Site Housekeeping
Post by: JasonPratt on February 01, 2023, 09:54:00 PM
Sounds like a Goth Chick text-to-speech mode for Kindle or something like that.  :cool:
Title: Re: Site Housekeeping
Post by: Grim.Reaper on February 02, 2023, 06:44:41 AM
Have appreciated everyone's efforts and glad things are proceeding nicely, really appreciate it.  Only two things for me.

1)  Does anyone else notice the inconsistency of being able to load posts, pages, and create/respond to messages?  The experience for me before and after the upgrade is the same, often it will take a while to load things (or not at all), other times it will be instant.  Don't believe it is my computer or browser as I have different browsers and I see the experience whether on my computer, tablet, or phone.  Don't think I have seen others recently post on this so at times I think it is me, but I can't think how that would be since tried across many devices/browsers using different internet connections.

2)  Like others, would love the recent posts back at the top of the screen instead of the bottom, but I do realize that won't be possible because of the tool used no longer being usable. Not a huge deal, just saved a little time.

Again, thanks for keeping the community going and the work is much appreciated!
Title: Re: Site Housekeeping
Post by: kludger on February 02, 2023, 07:13:24 AM
Quote from: Gusington on February 01, 2023, 08:58:39 PMHow does the dark reader work? I'd like to use it.
Dark Reader is a popular browser extension for chrome, firefox, safari, edge, and I've used two modes with it:
1. you can have it default to leaving all sites alone unless you hit the dark reader extension button then it will apply dark mode to that site and remember for next time
2. or you can have it apply dark mode to all sites by default and then you can hit the button to leave the site you are on default colors and it will remember for next time.

It probably has a bunch of other features but those are just the two I've used, I use the laptop a lot in a dark room while the family is watching movies or even in bed at night after the wife has crashed out early and so it's a huge help for me.

Forgot to add, you can download it from your browser's extensions marketplace  page where you will see the reviews for it, or their page and info is here:
https://darkreader.org/
Title: Re: Site Housekeeping
Post by: Grim.Reaper on February 02, 2023, 07:36:00 AM
Quote from: kludger on February 02, 2023, 07:13:24 AM
Quote from: Gusington on February 01, 2023, 08:58:39 PMHow does the dark reader work? I'd like to use it.
Dark Reader is a popular browser extension for chrome, firefox, safari, edge, and I've used two modes with it:
1. you can have it default to leaving all sites alone unless you hit the dark reader extension button then it will apply dark mode to that site and remember for next time
2. or you can have it apply dark mode to all sites by default and then you can hit the button to leave the site you are on default colors and it will remember for next time.

It probably has a bunch of other features but those are just the two I've used, I use the laptop a lot in a dark room while the family is watching movies or even in bed at night after the wife has crashed out early and so it's a huge help for me.

Forgot to add, you can download it from your browser's extensions marketplace  page where you will see the reviews for it, or their page and info is here:
https://darkreader.org/

*** Deleted *** Figured out my question.
Title: Re: Site Housekeeping
Post by: Gusington on February 02, 2023, 07:45:44 AM
Thanks Kludger. I have noticed some lag on my iPhone here, everything is fine on my home PC.
Title: Re: Site Housekeeping
Post by: undercovergeek on February 02, 2023, 11:13:07 AM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on February 02, 2023, 06:44:41 AMHave appreciated everyone's efforts and glad things are proceeding nicely, really appreciate it.  Only two things for me.

1)  Does anyone else notice the inconsistency of being able to load posts, pages, and create/respond to messages?  The experience for me before and after the upgrade is the same, often it will take a while to load things (or not at all), other times it will be instant.  Don't believe it is my computer or browser as I have different browsers and I see the experience whether on my computer, tablet, or phone.  Don't think I have seen others recently post on this so at times I think it is me, but I can't think how that would be since tried across many devices/browsers using different internet connections.

2)  Like others, would love the recent posts back at the top of the screen instead of the bottom, but I do realize that won't be possible because of the tool used no longer being usable. Not a huge deal, just saved a little time.

Again, thanks for keeping the community going and the work is much appreciated!

I get the same lag on phone and pc - some threads open instantly some will just hang and I sit there pressing the page number again and again and again just to annoy it into action - eventually it loads
Title: Re: Site Housekeeping
Post by: kludger on February 02, 2023, 02:40:51 PM
Quote from: undercovergeek on February 02, 2023, 11:13:07 AMI get the same lag on phone and pc - some threads open instantly some will just hang and I sit there pressing the page number again and again and again just to annoy it into action - eventually it loads

Interesting I hadn't experienced any lag but checked their help page and indeed they mention this:
https://darkreader.org/help/en/

My laptop is a gaming laptop with a 3070 GPU and my PC also has a 3070 in it so that may be why I never noticed any slowness, I also noticed my theme mode is set to Dynamic, so I guess it's one of those cases of mileage may vary, hopefully they keep improving the performance so everyone benefits from it.
Title: Re: Site Housekeeping
Post by: Grim.Reaper on February 02, 2023, 02:50:16 PM
Quote from: kludger on February 02, 2023, 02:40:51 PM
Quote from: undercovergeek on February 02, 2023, 11:13:07 AMI get the same lag on phone and pc - some threads open instantly some will just hang and I sit there pressing the page number again and again and again just to annoy it into action - eventually it loads

Interesting I hadn't experienced any lag but checked their help page and indeed they mention this:
https://darkreader.org/help/en/
  • Filter is the initial Dark Reader mode based on CSS filters. It inverts the whole page and reverts some parts back. Requires GPU resources. It is fast and powerful, but has several issues: it disables text sub-pixel rendering, inverts already dark parts into light, causes lags on large pages, and fails to render some pages in Firefox.

My laptop is a gaming laptop with a 3070 GPU and my PC also has a 3070 in it so that may be why I never noticed any slowness, I also noticed my theme mode is set to Dynamic, so I guess it's one of those cases of mileage may vary, hopefully they keep improving the performance so everyone benefits from it.

My performance issues were without dark reader.  Just the default site, so not related.
Title: Re: Site Housekeeping
Post by: undercovergeek on February 02, 2023, 05:20:10 PM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on February 02, 2023, 02:50:16 PM
Quote from: kludger on February 02, 2023, 02:40:51 PM
Quote from: undercovergeek on February 02, 2023, 11:13:07 AMI get the same lag on phone and pc - some threads open instantly some will just hang and I sit there pressing the page number again and again and again just to annoy it into action - eventually it loads

Interesting I hadn't experienced any lag but checked their help page and indeed they mention this:
https://darkreader.org/help/en/
  • Filter is the initial Dark Reader mode based on CSS filters. It inverts the whole page and reverts some parts back. Requires GPU resources. It is fast and powerful, but has several issues: it disables text sub-pixel rendering, inverts already dark parts into light, causes lags on large pages, and fails to render some pages in Firefox.

My laptop is a gaming laptop with a 3070 GPU and my PC also has a 3070 in it so that may be why I never noticed any slowness, I also noticed my theme mode is set to Dynamic, so I guess it's one of those cases of mileage may vary, hopefully they keep improving the performance so everyone benefits from it.

My performance issues were without dark reader.  Just the default site, so not related.

Yup same here

Using phone - accidentally clicked on page 3 - instant load

Click on page 4 - 30 second wait

Title: Re: Site Housekeeping
Post by: Gusington on February 02, 2023, 08:27:51 PM
The lag on my iPhone today was particularly bad...could barely access the site. Fine on PC.