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Title: Shogun - Hulu / FX Reboot of 1980 Mini-series
Post by: ArizonaTank on February 27, 2024, 04:01:14 PM
Today is release day for Shogun reboot. This is a new mini-series of the novel "Shogun" by James Clavell. The previous mini-series was released in 1980.

I am kind of, sort of, looking forward to this. Clavell took too much artistic license with Japanese history for my taste. But if the series is good, I could be turned. My wife is stoked however. Anyway, will get started on it this evening.
Title: Re: Shogun - Hulu / FX Reboot or 1980 Mini-series
Post by: Silent Disapproval Robot on February 27, 2024, 04:20:26 PM
I'm looking forward to it.  I just hope that they don't do the usual Disney thing and beat us over the head with "the message".
Title: Re: Shogun - Hulu / FX Reboot or 1980 Mini-series
Post by: Gusington on February 27, 2024, 05:25:48 PM
Also looking forward to it. I love the book, never saw the original series.
Title: Re: Shogun - Hulu / FX Reboot or 1980 Mini-series
Post by: Grim.Reaper on February 27, 2024, 05:47:03 PM
Watched both released episodes this morning on Hulu.  Enjoying it so far, been awhile since I watched past Shogun material so can't really compare it. 
Title: Re: Shogun - Hulu / FX Reboot or 1980 Mini-series
Post by: ArizonaTank on February 28, 2024, 08:59:01 AM
My wife and I really liked it as well. Much better than the original series IMHO. Perhaps because this time the producer is Japanese. It feels more authentic (despite having been filmed in Canada).

My only complaint now is that I have to wait another week to see the next episode.
Title: Re: Shogun - Hulu / FX Reboot of 1980 Mini-series
Post by: Silent Disapproval Robot on February 28, 2024, 04:40:50 PM
I watched the first episode and I'm pleasantly surprised.  Seems very good so far.  (And boobs!) 

I appreciate that they're speaking Japanese in the polite keigo form even though I find it hard to understand at times.

I remember watching the original miniseries in social studies class in junior high and being shocked by the piss scene.  Good to see it recreated here as well.

They've definitely toned down the racism espoused by both the Europeans and the Japanese in the book and original series and replaced it with sectarianism instead.

My only quibbles are minor.  Some of the samurai retainers seem a little rolly-polly and, seeing as how they filmed parts of it near here, a few scenes take me out of the story because I recognize the area.
Title: Re: Shogun - Hulu / FX Reboot of 1980 Mini-series
Post by: Gusington on February 29, 2024, 05:07:07 PM
^Was waiting to see what you thought...this bodes well.

How do you say 'boobs' in Japanese?

 :ninjameditate:
Title: Re: Shogun - Hulu / FX Reboot of 1980 Mini-series
Post by: Silent Disapproval Robot on February 29, 2024, 06:38:29 PM
Oppai  おっぱい

if you wanna be more polite, you can say:

mune 胸  which is more like bosom or chest.


if you wanna use cheeseball slang, you can say:

pai-otsu  ぱいおつ  It's kind of like pig-Latin in Japanese where you put the last syllable of a word first.
Title: Re: Shogun - Hulu / FX Reboot of 1980 Mini-series
Post by: Gusington on February 29, 2024, 08:48:59 PM
I'll go with mune  :deathstar:  :deathstar:
Title: Re: Shogun - Hulu / FX Reboot of 1980 Mini-series
Post by: Silent Disapproval Robot on February 29, 2024, 10:02:21 PM
Nah, oppai is fine.  The Japanese are way more open to talking about boobs than we are.  Drunken Japanese girls are always grabbing each other's boobs.
Title: Re: Shogun - Hulu / FX Reboot of 1980 Mini-series
Post by: Gusington on February 29, 2024, 10:13:22 PM
The Wife could be empress there, I believe.
Title: Re: Shogun - Hulu / FX Reboot of 1980 Mini-series
Post by: GDS_Starfury on February 29, 2024, 10:48:58 PM
Oppai!!!  :Party:
Title: Re: Shogun - Hulu / FX Reboot of 1980 Mini-series
Post by: Silent Disapproval Robot on April 17, 2024, 02:07:24 AM
God damn, episode 9 was awesome.  This whole series has been truly excellent. 
Title: Re: Shogun - Hulu / FX Reboot of 1980 Mini-series
Post by: ArizonaTank on April 17, 2024, 08:28:45 AM
Quote from: Silent Disapproval Robot on April 17, 2024, 02:07:24 AMGod damn, episode 9 was awesome.  This whole series has been truly excellent. 

+1
Title: Re: Shogun - Hulu / FX Reboot of 1980 Mini-series
Post by: Jarhead0331 on April 17, 2024, 08:33:23 AM
Any theories on what Toranaga is planning?
Title: Re: Shogun - Hulu / FX Reboot of 1980 Mini-series
Post by: Silent Disapproval Robot on April 17, 2024, 09:22:51 AM
Battle of Sekigahara.
Title: Re: Shogun - Hulu / FX Reboot of 1980 Mini-series
Post by: Jarhead0331 on April 17, 2024, 09:32:48 AM
Quote from: Silent Disapproval Robot on April 17, 2024, 09:22:51 AMBattle of Sekigahara.

Is Toranaga based on Tokugawa Ieyasu?
Title: Re: Shogun - Hulu / FX Reboot of 1980 Mini-series
Post by: Silent Disapproval Robot on April 17, 2024, 09:40:46 AM
Yeah.  Toranaga is Tokugawa.  Ishido is Ishida Mitsunari.  Yabushige is Honda Masanobu, I think.
Title: Re: Shogun - Hulu / FX Reboot of 1980 Mini-series
Post by: Silent Disapproval Robot on April 18, 2024, 05:59:02 PM
Yeah, so because of this show, this is happening on Saturday.
Title: Re: Shogun - Hulu / FX Reboot of 1980 Mini-series
Post by: Silent Disapproval Robot on April 23, 2024, 09:11:32 PM
Hmm...

Are they going to make season 2?  Compared to the 80s series, this one ended in an odd place.
Title: Re: Shogun - Hulu / FX Reboot of 1980 Mini-series
Post by: ArizonaTank on April 24, 2024, 08:07:09 AM
Quote from: Silent Disapproval Robot on April 23, 2024, 09:11:32 PMHmm...

Are they going to make season 2?  Compared to the 80s series, this one ended in an odd place.

I agree, it did seem to be left in an oddly open place.

Overall, I thought the series was brilliant!
Title: Re: Shogun - Hulu / FX Reboot of 1980 Mini-series
Post by: Sigwolf on April 24, 2024, 07:39:02 PM
It certainly doesn't appear there will be a season 2...

https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/tv/a60373634/shogun-season-2-cast-news/ (https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/tv/a60373634/shogun-season-2-cast-news/)
Title: Re: Shogun - Hulu / FX Reboot of 1980 Mini-series
Post by: Silent Disapproval Robot on April 24, 2024, 11:38:03 PM
Yeah....

Lame.  I wanted to see some hot English cannon vs yari ashigaru action.
Title: Re: Shogun - Hulu / FX Reboot of 1980 Mini-series
Post by: Gusington on April 25, 2024, 08:30:29 AM
 :cannon:
Title: Re: Shogun - Hulu / FX Reboot of 1980 Mini-series
Post by: Silent Disapproval Robot on April 25, 2024, 10:26:28 AM
Sexy