Soviet Anti-Carrier Doctrine

Started by Airborne Rifles, December 17, 2014, 09:19:37 PM

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GDS_Starfury

from the naval perspective the Russians are totally outclassed and outnumbered.  we have more subs alone then they have actual combat and logistics ships.
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I was thinking we're more making giants out of the ChiComms the days.
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Airborne Rifles

Present day relative naval strength aside, no reactions to photos of three US flattops in the periscope crosshairs  of a soviet submarine? Made me shiver a bit.

GDS_Starfury

we lose a bunch of carriers a year during various exercises so Ive seen that view a lot before.
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Quote from: Airborne Rifles on March 16, 2015, 02:56:41 PM
Present day relative naval strength aside, no reactions to photos of three US flattops in the periscope crosshairs  of a soviet submarine? Made me shiver a bit.

It's good, the carrier is not steath, the sub is. So you let them have their bravado picture in peace time so that you can get a really good recording of them. 📡 Makes them easier to spot in war time.
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I do have to say that the Enterprise's outline is pretty obvious in that periscope photo.
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The article mentions that Midway went EMCON and moved out, undiscovered.
Something similar happened with the Kitty Hawk. 
The Soviet AGIs relied on passive EW and visual contact to stay in contact with the carriers.  Kitty Hawk had a special trailer on board from the Beachjumper unit.  It recorded everything, down to the flight deck walkie talkies.
At night, the Hawk was in the center of a formation with a Leahy class cruiser two miles astern.  At midnight, the carrier went totally dark and came to a full stop.  The cruiser passed the Hawk and turned on all her topside lights and began broadcasting the tapes.
The formation proceeded with the cruiser acting like the CV and the Soviets followed, fat dumb and happy.
After the group had moved on, the Kitty Hawk turned away and was lost in the dark.
To keep the ploy going a little longer, at first light an F4 flew up to the cruiser at wave top.  As it went past the cruiser, the Phantom turned on it's lights and began a slow climb, like it was just launched.
About an hour later, someone noticed the lack of a carrier.  The tattletale (Maybe a Sam Kotlin) charged in trying to find a carrier.  The sweat must have been falling in a waterfall from the Russian four striper.  Finally, in desperation, he asked the cruiser by flashing light, "Where is Kitty Hawk?"
The captain had been waiting all night for this and replied, "Kitty Hawk is just off the coast of North Carolina."
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