South China Sea Heats Up

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ArizonaTank

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For the last week, China has held military drills in the waters surrounding Taiwan. This has put a soft blockade on the island since commercial transport generally avoids such areas; commercial flights and ships have apparently been constrained by the drills.

The drills had been scheduled to stop on Sunday.

Now, the drills have been extended. If China really wanted to put the screws to Taiwan and the US now, they could just continue this "stealth" blockade for an indefinite period of time. Anyway, not good.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/china-announces-fresh-military-drills-around-taiwan/ar-AA10pUPN?ocid=msedgntp&cvid=5edcbf5ca53c4f868f8f75fc87ac41af
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ArizonaTank

Some "good" or at least "better" news. China seems to be trying to de-escalate tension a bit.

They are now saying that while Taiwan reunification is "inevitable" it can happen peacefully. Taiwan of course is having none of that.

Of course nothing says that the Chinese can't quickly change their minds again.

https://apnews.com/article/taiwan-canada-china-government-and-politics-f1b5f86cc8985c40e4c9c2f4f51cda05
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GDS_Starfury

the chinese know that they'll have lots of free territory up north to take in about a years time.
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jamus34

Quote from: GDS_Starfury on September 22, 2022, 09:41:31 AM
the chinese know that they'll have lots of free territory up north to take in about a years time.

Been saying that since Ukraine started beating the shit out of Russia. China is claiming to stand with their socialist friends but they are using the as a barometer for a number of options.

World's response if they make a move on Taiwan
Potential socioeconomic impact of said invasion
If Russia performed poorly, can they realistically make a move north.

Russia has land and resources that China desperately needs. I also seriously doubt anyone would come to Russia's aid.
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Windigo

Quote from: GDS_Starfury on September 22, 2022, 09:41:31 AM
the chinese know that they'll have lots of free territory up north to take in about a years time.

I have always thought that if nukes were going to fly it'd be started between Russia/SU and China. Arrogance and xenophobia.
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Quote from: jamus34 on September 22, 2022, 10:05:30 AM
Quote from: GDS_Starfury on September 22, 2022, 09:41:31 AM
the chinese know that they'll have lots of free territory up north to take in about a years time.

Been saying that since Ukraine started beating the shit out of Russia. China is claiming to stand with their socialist friends but they are using the as a barometer for a number of options.

World's response if they make a move on Taiwan
Potential socioeconomic impact of said invasion
If Russia performed poorly, can they realistically make a move north.

Russia has land and resources that China desperately needs. I also seriously doubt anyone would come to Russia's aid.

  I don't think China has to move explicitly against Russia -- maybe just support Khazakstan or some other (former) Russian "allies" in the (more or less former)
Russian Federation.  China can
move economically like some 19th century Imperialist (like Russia used to be) into Central Asia and is definitely already at work along those lines.
Taiwan is small potatoes compared to big chunks of Central Asia.

https://eurasianet.org/perspectives-china-cements-its-dominance-in-central-asia

GDS_Starfury

china will 100% use its African strategy with break away russian territories.
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Gusington

In conflict between China and what is left of Russia, does North Korea just sit on its hands?


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Sir Slash

And which way does Iran swing? Or do they just keep their heads down until it's over?
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^Iran has a bit of a problem with open revolt right now.


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Windigo

Quote from: GDS_Starfury on September 22, 2022, 10:58:10 AM
china will 100% use its African strategy with break away russian territories.

That strategy is very very effective for getting the foot in the door and short term, but China being China is quickly turning the nations against them. When I was down in South Africa, I heard stories from miners coming south to trade with us from bordering countries.

Their cheating ways are pissing everyone off. And it's turning governments against them. Big caveat is the nations that have given them land for agriculture have armed Chinese presence in them so the presence of this intimidationg factor may allow them to hold past a 10-20 year period.
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JasonPratt

Another problem is that some of the nations China was collecting land from (like the port controlling access to the Red Sea from Djibouti), have started to collapse (like Sri Lanka), leaving China holding the bag for irreplaceable defaults.

That most likely includes Russia, China's biggest nearby trading partner.

This is why China will be looking to focus on solving its own internal economic problems and nibbling off land in Asia for a while, rather than pressing on bullying Taiwan and playing tiger-games with the US and our allies (if they take the advice of a position paper presented to the Politburo last week).
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