Well it goes live tomorrow. I pre-downloaded during the beta weekend. Unfortunately it's going to be a long day at work tomorrow, so I won't get to play until late or the following day.
Internet is awash with complaints about always on and getting booted offline and to the log on screen. I don't normally make a stand with regards to DRM but when it breaks a game and is disguised as something I need (i.e auction houses and online play with offline character could involve cheating, though I'd never play online anway!) then I make a stand here.
New and shiny isn't enough. I enjoyed D1 but I'm not handing money over to Blizzard who have obviously gone with a draconian method of DRM that at the moment breaks the game.
Sometimes to be honest I understand Zombie movies more and consumerism.
I do get the draw to games and the put up with crap to play them, but not with this one.
It's the first day with hundreds of thousands of players. I'm sure there will be some issues. That being said Blizzard has a little experience handling large volumes of customers on it's servers and a long track record of stable games and servers. I'm not worry about them figuring it out.
Well that was pretty painless. 20 minutes to install, a log in and I'm in game.
Well boys and girls Diablo 3 is live and I'm going in for a few minutes before bed.
Between this and CoH, I may have found a temporary gaming nirvana.
Quote from: Wodin on May 15, 2012, 03:36:00 AM
Internet is awash with complaints about always on and getting booted offline and to the log on screen. I don't normally make a stand with regards to DRM but when it breaks a game and is disguised as something I need (i.e auction houses and online play with offline character could involve cheating, though I'd never play online anway!) then I make a stand here.
I'm with you. My lady and I both enjoyed Diablo 2, and I was mildly excited about the latest release, but I'm not going to support this kind of crap. Blizzard have mentioned several reasons for doing what they did which supposedly make the experience better for the player, but not a single one of them preclude them from making an offline mode for single player. They could've done it if they'd wanted to, but they didn't. They won't get my money.
Started up a monk and played for almost an hour and a half. Good stuff. No issue logging in or with the server.
Would you recommend getting the game?
How hard is it?
How many customization options for your toons are there?
Do mooks/creeps/monsters constantly respawn making it so you're playing a silly MMORPG without instanced content?
Is there an actual plot?
Anyway, bought it on an impulse now.
Anyone knows how to choose where the downloader/installer will download files to?
It never asked me and just started downloading/installing straight away.
It should be in you downloads folder.
The areas will respawn if you leave the game and return to them.
Quote from: Tpek on May 15, 2012, 06:16:33 AM
Do mooks/creeps/monsters constantly respawn making it so you're playing a silly MMORPG without instanced content?
I haven't played D3 but in the other games you keep restarting games when you run into too hard challenges with the intent to "farm" the lower areas.
Quote from: Fetrik on May 15, 2012, 07:29:16 AM
Quote from: Tpek on May 15, 2012, 06:16:33 AM
Do mooks/creeps/monsters constantly respawn making it so you're playing a silly MMORPG without instanced content?
I haven't played D3 but in the other games you keep restarting games when you run into too hard challenges with the intent to "farm" the lower areas.
Yes. Especially when playing the very difficult levels. The loot stats really make a difference.
Anyway... I visited my Blizzard account and noted the buying price, slightly tempted and then visited one of the biggest PC game sellers in Sweden on the web and noticed about 15 euro diff...
I guess it is nice to allow the resellers a chance but daaamn shopping from Blizz is expensive.
Either way.. I am resisting, for now.
Quote from: Bison on May 15, 2012, 07:20:01 AM
It should be in you downloads folder.
The areas will respawn if you leave the game and return to them.
What downloads folder?
I can't see any such folder and none of my 3 HDs/Partitions seem to show any significant decrease in space :P
Propably in the documents/recived files
I am waiting for my pre-ordered physical copy to be shipped. Really looking forward to this.
Between Diablo III and Warlock I have my voodoo bone being tickled in all the right places.
Voodo bone eh? That's a new one... ;)
It's currently being stimulated by Warlock, until Diablo III arrives.
Found it automatically installed the game in the program files folder on the main system drive without being asked about it.
Stupid thing... :o
Quote from: Gusington on May 15, 2012, 09:46:26 AM
It's currently being stimulated by Warlock, until Diablo III arrives.
There aren't warlocks in Diablo 3. However, I will be rolling up a Witch Doctor at some point. I really enjoyed playing the class during the open beta much more than I thought that I would.
I highly recommend that all players go to Options, Gameplay, and activate Elective Mode and Expanded (or Advanced) Tooltips. This will allow you to bind any of your skills to any button (rather than have them categorized according to button 1 = defensive, button 2 = X) and will give you the full information on each of your skills (i.e. does 110% of your weapon damage and costs 6 mana). These options make the game significantly deeper and more like Diablo 2.
With the exception of a couple million people all trying to log on at 12:01 this morning, the servers have been really stable for me. Was finally able to log on around 1:30 and played till 3-3:30 with no issues. Woke up this morning around 7 PST and played another couple of hours.
I think blizzard tweaked the difficulty levels up since the beta. I was able to roll all through act I and kill the skeleton king like a knife through butter. Last night I died 3-4 times. I actually like the increase in difficulty (if there is one) on normal, except when my barbarian basically gets one shot by a dozen mobs.
Just tried logging in over the last few minutes and get a "connection interrupted" error #3003. Looking it up on their support it indicates that Blizzard is pulling their server offline to resolve "critical issues." http://us.battle.net/en/search?q=error%20code%203003&f=support
Huh. Who knew that when you sold a million copies of a game that you'd need to have server space for a million people?
Yeah I just got booted, but no worries here. I'm kicking some serious undead and demon tail with my monk. It should be up in the next 30-45 mins based off what was splashed on the login screen.
And for the skeptics, the world is not coming to an end. Why just yesterday my entire internet service was out for 2 hours for unknown reasons.
Quote from: Bison on May 15, 2012, 04:51:21 PM
Yeah I just got booted, but no worries here. I'm kicking some serious undead and demon tail with my monk. It should be up in the next 30-45 mins based off what was splashed on the login screen.
And for the skeptics, the world is not coming to an end. Why just yesterday my entire internet service was out for 2 hours for unknown reasons.
I, for one, am pleased to know that the world is not ending yet. I haven't ever played any of the Diablo games, and I will consider it gross incompetence on the part of Divine Justice if I can't play Diablo before the world ends. Possible actions include legal action and strongly worded letters, so you know I'm serious about this.
^Sounds like fun LB, a new thread where we all submit a 'Strongly Worded letter', along the lines of;
Dear (insert name of diety of choice here),
It has been brought to our attention that you have, without prior consultation, terminated all operations on that celestial body generally known as 'Earth' aka 'The World' ....blah, blah....
Prize for the winning entry being a pair of combat boots, dyed red........
Looks like a group of Koreans and a group of Chinese each completed the game in 7 hrs.
http://www.tomshardware.com/news/Diablo-Blizzard-PC-Gaming-7-hours-Korea,15649.html
Well I'm starting to become a kung fu master, but i've yet to get an epic/rare drop. Lots of blue loot though. I love me some loot.
Quote from: Bison on May 15, 2012, 07:37:49 PM
Well I'm starting to become a kung fu master, but i've yet to get an epic/rare drop. Lots of blue loot though. I love me some loot.
I am playing a Witch Doctor... but I leveled a Monk up to level 5. Those monks are pretty epic! I don't think he does more damage per se than the WD, but it just FEELS better with all the kicks and punches!
I think the WD ramps up, however. I'm convinced that the walls of zombies and exploding frogs will be just as awesome in the long run.
QuoteLooks like a group of Koreans and a group of Chinese each completed the game in 7 hrs.
According to the strategy guide, the game isn't even a quarter over after you finished all the Acts. You don't even unlock all your awesome skills and runes in a Normal level difficulty play through. So you don't really complete the game until you beat it on all difficulties. 7 hours to beat normal is "meh."
I've heard that the hardest level is near impossible without a group. Not sure if that is true, but it's seem like a possiblity.
Quote from: Bison on May 15, 2012, 08:48:34 PM
I've heard that the hardest level is near impossible without a group. Not sure if that is true, but it's seem like a possiblity.
That sounds legit, according to the way the strategy guide talks.
BTW, after a hard day of idiotic number crunching... I get greeted with the Error #3004. Boo hiss!
I've got a 3003. It's the same issue as earlier today. I know some folks are losing their minds with rage right now, but I'm not surprised. I'd like to hear the figures on units sold pre-purchase and day one. Anyway I'm sure they'll figure out the server issue and life will go on.
Yeah... I just wished I would have worked less during the day, played some, and done work at night. Oh well.
Quote from: Bison on May 15, 2012, 10:47:52 PM
I've got a 3003. It's the same issue as earlier today. I know some folks are losing their minds with rage right now, but I'm not surprised. I'd like to hear the figures on units sold pre-purchase and day one. Anyway I'm sure they'll figure out the server issue and life will go on.
Pretty much this. Looks like they have Battle.net down entirely right now, so I'd imagine they're adding server capacity.
Still haven't had a chance to play, but I've had such a tiring day that I don't particularly care. I'm not exactly the freak out about servers type, anyway...I have other games I can play until it gets sorted.
And I have a 5 day weekend coming up, so that'd be a pretty awesome time for the sorting to be done...
I've been back in game for awhile now. Servers say they are down, but I'm in and kicking ass.
My copy hasn't even shipped yet but with all the server issues and my current love affair with Warlock, it's OK.
Yesterday there were some issues with the servers, but I was only not able to log in for about 2 hours total. I played for a good 8 hours yesterday. That being said it is impossible to solo the campaign in 7 hours. I need to start to grind for some more uber lootz for my monk. He's a little squishy right now.
^How the hell do you get 8 hours to play in one day??
My initial impressions are unhappy.
I couldn't log in at all last night. Today I finally got past the server problem only to find I got a new error, 315300.
Turns out that one is caused by trying to log into the game and *tabbing* from login to password. The fix? Don't tab.
Oh, and create a new Admin account on your PC to play with since you won't be able to use your normal account to play Diablo III.
Now this is a neat WTF moment except it gets better: according to the forums I've read, this was a known bug when Diablo II was released a decade ago.
Really?
I mean, REALLY?
Were I a more cynical man I'd say they kept the bugs in just to reduce the load on the servers.
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Playing the game in single-player I like it but can't say I'm in love. I suspect this will be more fun with a group of friends, but right now it just looks like yet another Bioware D&D hacknslash. Nice atmosphere and graphics. The plot isn't horrible. But I'm just not crack-whore-addicted. For $60 I expected better.
Quote from: LongBlade on May 16, 2012, 09:55:26 AM
My initial impressions are unhappy.
I couldn't log in at all last night. Today I finally got past the server problem only to find I got a new error, 315300.
Turns out that one is caused by trying to log into the game and *tabbing* from login to password. The fix? Don't tab.
Oh, and create a new Admin account on your PC to play with since you won't be able to use your normal account to play Diablo III.
Now this is a neat WTF moment except it gets better: according to the forums I've read, this was a known bug when Diablo II was released a decade ago.
Really?
I mean, REALLY?
Were I a more cynical man I'd say they kept the bugs in just to reduce the load on the servers.
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Playing the game in single-player I like it but can't say I'm in love. I suspect this will be more fun with a group of friends, but right now it just looks like yet another Bioware D&D hacknslash. Nice atmosphere and graphics. The plot isn't horrible. But I'm just not crack-whore-addicted. For $60 I expected better.
Bioware doesn't make this sort Hack&Slash games.
And yeah, they are having server problems. Since the game is basically an Online Single Player game, and like every online game it has troubles during its launch.
Quote from: LongBlade on May 16, 2012, 09:55:26 AM
My initial impressions are unhappy.
I couldn't log in at all last night. Today I finally got past the server problem only to find I got a new error, 315300.
Turns out that one is caused by trying to log into the game and *tabbing* from login to password. The fix? Don't tab.
Oh, and create a new Admin account on your PC to play with since you won't be able to use your normal account to play Diablo III.
Now this is a neat WTF moment except it gets better: according to the forums I've read, this was a known bug when Diablo II was released a decade ago.
Really?
I mean, REALLY?
Were I a more cynical man I'd say they kept the bugs in just to reduce the load on the servers.
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Playing the game in single-player I like it but can't say I'm in love. I suspect this will be more fun with a group of friends, but right now it just looks like yet another Bioware D&D hacknslash. Nice atmosphere and graphics. The plot isn't horrible. But I'm just not crack-whore-addicted. For $60 I expected better.
The server issues are annoying, but I expected them.
I'm actually really digging the gameplay - but you have to make sure you follow my suggestion and use
Elective Mode, then you will get more power over your character skills. Something feels "right" in this game that was missing in other ARPGs, perhaps the atmosphere. I can't say I'm addicted, because the servers didn't let me in to play long enough to get that way!
The really cool thing is that I had a game going and my friend saw me online and just jumped right into my game. That was cool, and we had a good twenty minutes of beating things up before I had to go eat dinner. Easy as pie. Once the servers get straightened out, my feeling is that it will be vastly improved.
I don't know how to share B-net IDs however. So there is that.
Can this be officially declared an effed-up launch?
Quote from: Gusington on May 16, 2012, 10:14:07 AM
Can this be officially declared an effed-up launch?
Dunno. There are probably enough people playing that it can be declared a success, but I'd say they deserve credit for attempting to shoot themselves in the foot.
Quote from: son_of_montfort on May 16, 2012, 10:11:00 AM
Something feels "right" in this game that was missing in other ARPGs, perhaps the atmosphere.
Yeah, I've played ARPGs that had better mechanics than Diablo 2, but D2 was never bested in terms of atmosphere. It was a bewitching game to play.
Quote from: Gusington on May 16, 2012, 10:14:07 AM
Can this be officially declared an effed-up launch?
Naw. Given the number of units this sold and the day one crush of people, I would say it was remarkably stable.
A avast majority aren't happy and a few are fine with it. Personally I think not having an offline single player mode, where you aren't allowed to use said character online should have been part of the game. Having to be logged on to a server if your a single player gamer is just wrong. I'm waiting on Path of Exile. At least I don't have to pay out $60 to play it and I after watching PoE trailer it seems abit slower gameplay which for me is a big plus. D3 looks like it goes 100mph and I couldn't really appreciate it watching the trailers due to it's speedy animations.
Quote from: Gusington on May 16, 2012, 09:52:44 AM
^How the hell do you get 8 hours to play in one day??
Well I was laid up in my lazy boy unable to move for 5 hours in the afternoon. Then I played a for a few hours after the family went to bed. This is not a usual night by any stretch of the imagination. I'm lucky if I can squeek in an hour or two most nights.
^That's better. How dare you try to have more fun than me in one day!
Anyone got a link to Path of Exile?
Quote from: LongBlade on May 16, 2012, 09:55:26 AM
My initial impressions are unhappy.
I couldn't log in at all last night. Today I finally got past the server problem only to find I got a new error, 315300.
Turns out that one is caused by trying to log into the game and *tabbing* from login to password. The fix? Don't tab.
Oh, and create a new Admin account on your PC to play with since you won't be able to use your normal account to play Diablo III.
I used my battlenet account no issue. What's an admin account?
I guess I don't tab, but yeah that's pretty weird.
I wish there was a video option or slider for adjusting the post-processing effect.
It makes everything look hazy and slightly out of focus at times. :-[
Quote from: LongBlade on May 16, 2012, 09:55:26 AM
right now it just looks like yet another Bioware D&D hacknslash.
Strictly speaking, Bioware took the basic gameplay and design of Diablo, and kind-of ported real D&D rules into it with Balder's Gate (and related material). The games play only superficially similar.
Quote from: JasonPratt on May 16, 2012, 02:38:12 PM
Quote from: LongBlade on May 16, 2012, 09:55:26 AM
right now it just looks like yet another Bioware D&D hacknslash.
Strictly speaking, Bioware took the basic gameplay and design of Diablo, and kind-of ported real D&D rules into it with Balder's Gate (and related material). The games play only superficially similar.
No offense but hardly correct.
BG is not really an Action-RPG like Diablo.
Diablo was innovative in its time due to its Loot system (randomized items with random qualities and abilities), the interface and gameplay, and the fact it played kinda like a single player MMO (levels would reset, nothing but endless dungeons). These are things are fortunately are not there in BG.
Quote from: UlrichVonBek on May 16, 2012, 01:32:33 PM
A avast majority aren't happy and a few are fine with it. Personally I think not having an offline single player mode, where you aren't allowed to use said character online should have been part of the game. Having to be logged on to a server if your a single player gamer is just wrong. I'm waiting on Path of Exile. At least I don't have to pay out $60 to play it and I after watching PoE trailer it seems abit slower gameplay which for me is a big plus. D3 looks like it goes 100mph and I couldn't really appreciate it watching the trailers due to it's speedy animations.
This seems like uninformed negativity. Path of Exile is also an Online-only ARPG, so I fail to see how that is more palatable than Blizzard's always-online Battle.net. While it isn't the best idea, there are major benefits, such as being able to immediately jump into a co-op game with a friend (remarkably easy). The server problems were largely due to release day influx and, given that Blizzard has far more experience with dealing in the millions of subscribers than the Path of Exile people, I put my faith in Blizzard any day.
As to game speed, I suppose that is a personal choice. Seems a bit of an odd criticism for an Action RPG, which is supposed to be fast-paced, but whatever.
Is uninformed negativity the first step towards nerd rage?
Quote from: Gusington on May 16, 2012, 04:06:57 PM
Is uninformed negativity the first step towards nerd rage?
The latency in game right now is down right horrid. +400 ping and it jumps up to +1200. It's unplayable. I've got confidence that this will get sorted but good grief this pretty embarrasing for a company that makes it's money off of an MMO. I've also been experiencing a slo-mo effect today.
I t s l i k e m y c h a r a c t e r w a n t s t o m o v e f a s t b u t j u s t c a n n o t d o s o .
I'm starting to get a little frustrated with the server nonsense. They were obviously not prepared for release day. I guess they didn't have enough time to develop the game and plan for its release.
South Koreans defeat final boss in 6 hours!
http://kotaku.com/5910613/korean-players-take-down-final-diablo-iii-boss-but-cant-get-loot#
I guess if you played in a group and did not clear the areas, but went straight from main quest to main quest on normal maybe you can I don't know. I'm sure they enjoyed the story line alot.
Looks like they avoided the grind or just click too fast. :p
Well I'm soloing on normal with relative ease. My greatest struggle is not dying due to the horrid latency issues today.
Quote from: Bison on May 16, 2012, 05:18:16 PM
Quote from: Gusington on May 16, 2012, 04:06:57 PM
Is uninformed negativity the first step towards nerd rage?
The latency in game right now is down right horrid. +400 ping and it jumps up to +1200. It's unplayable. I've got confidence that this will get sorted but good grief this pretty embarrasing for a company that makes it's money off of an MMO. I've also been experiencing a slo-mo effect today.
I t s l i k e m y c h a r a c t e r w a n t s t o m o v e f a s t b u t j u s t c a n n o t d o s o .
I'm starting to get a little frustrated with the server nonsense. They were obviously not prepared for release day. I guess they didn't have enough time to develop the game and plan for its release.
I've been playing a lot the last few hours and had no latency.
It's gotten much better this evening. This afternoon was truly awful. I would spike to 1500 ping. Now that being said I'm not surprised. It's pretty much par for the course with online games during the first days following release.
SoM you still playing a Witch Doctor? I'm pretty curious how the skill tree plays out for that class at mid to high levels.
My monk is turning into a bad mofo. I've managed to find a couple of rares that match the class pretty nicely. What I really need is some better chest and leg armor.
A friend and me beat the end boss on normal tonight, now on to nightmare difficulty.
How are you liking the monk Bison? I played very little of it during the beta.
I love the class. It needs some work IMO on the attack graphics to incooperate equiped weapons. It's sort of weird I had a pretty decent bo staff I was using, but the attacks were always done with my fists. Carry the staff when running but put on back to fight. It's a little silly. The monk skill tree is right up my alley. Some healing, mantras and pretty decent crowd control attacks (mostly push backs but it does the trick to clear off a swarm). I love the seven direction attack. Teleporting around to seven targets and hitting them is awesome. They are pretty squishy though. If you get caught in a swarm and cannot clear them with a push back or charge, it can get ugly quickly.
I'm still just taking baby-steps with the game.
But my highlights are
Demon Hunter with Rapid Fire, drop calthrops, and mow them down. I never thought I'd see the day Diablo had a machine gunner!
Monk with multi-direction long reach attacks, blind them and pummel them down.. I can even heal myself a little!
Witch Doctor... attacks by throwing Jars of Spiders! That's it, hellhounds and jars of spiders, I can't imagine wanting anything more! Apart from Jumping Spiders!
I like how the Witch Doctor plays outside of the action, laying carpets of crawlers.. the ultimate arachnid zerg! :)
The only thing I miss is the deliciously rendered FMV cutscenes, eyecandy that Blizzard used to pour on us every story break in D2.
My current favorite tactic with the monk is using sweeping wind (which does continuous damage and is mantained with each enemy I attack and hit), while attacking with crippling wave and then pulling in the stragglers with cyclone strike. It's fantastic. The problem I'm really having now is my max spirit point level is too low. I'm sitting at around 150 which is not much at all when you consider that my big hitting attacks cost 75+ and most all are in the 50 point range. So 2-3 spirit costing actions and I'm out until I re-charge the pool. I had an item that boosted it, but I must have swapped it out and sold it. I'm sure I had some sort of stat logic at the time, but danged if I can remember.
Quote from: spelk on May 17, 2012, 03:09:18 AM
The only thing I miss is the deliciously rendered FMV cutscenes, eyecandy that Blizzard used to pour on us every story break in D2.
There
are FMV cutscenes in D3. Are you not seeing them? ???
I've only played Witch Doctor thus far. While many of their skills are entertaining, the most effective I've been using most of the time is Poison Dart (w/ 3 at a time burst rune), Fire bats! (either the short range flamethrower or Dire bats for long range) - Go To skill there, Soul Harvest for big damage buff and some heal/mana gain, and lastly Gargantuan pet with it's AoE attack.
The other stuff is just too slow to kill - all those little spiders and exploding frogs take awhile to get to their targets and even then they don't do much damage. The basic Poison Dart attack (with the first rune) does more single-target damage than any other skill the WD has, and does it
much faster than waiting for your frogs/spiders to walk/jump to their targets and do the measly 19% weapon damage per hit. I'm a bit disappointed that the fun ones are underpowered, their only one advantage being that you don't have to stop for long to launch them. :-\
If any of you get that f'd up graphics lag, after playing awhile, I've found that alt-tabbing out of the game a couple seconds - and then back in - has fixed it for me in the past. Someone posted other graphics card manual settings that supposedly help, but I don't feel like downloading 3rd party crap for mine to do so.
Still waiting for my copy to be shipped...:/
*snicker*
...
Quote from: Bison on May 17, 2012, 02:08:54 AM
SoM you still playing a Witch Doctor? I'm pretty curious how the skill tree plays out for that class at mid to high levels.
My monk is turning into a bad mofo. I've managed to find a couple of rares that match the class pretty nicely. What I really need is some better chest and leg armor.
The WD is a fantastic AOE and DOT master. He doesn't do the burst damage of the Wizard or the Monk, but he makes up for it with a being able to damage multiple enemies. I'm having a tough time deciding if I want to use the unpredictable but high-damage exploding toads as my main weapon or the "homing" spiders that supplement my Zombie dogs and I don't have to worry about targeting (leaving me free to target with skills like Fire Bats or Haunt, both of which are high damage - Fire Bats is burst, Haunt is a DoT).
But the real kicker and possible "cheat" button is the WD's Soul Feast skill. It is a PBAoE (player-based area of effect) that creates a 30 second "buff" for ever enemy caught in it. The buff increases intelligence, primarily. What this means is that my Int-based increase to damage goes from 60% to almost 200%! That is an amazing damage boost!
Quote from: spelkApart from Jumping Spiders!
Actually, leaping spiders is the very first rune you get! Those suckers leap 25 feet, which is like half the screen!
I've been playing a Demon Hunter and enjoying it. I love how the bow sounds like a gunshot. I'm not sure why that's so, but it's pleasant to hear more that just a "twang" for a report.
I'm getting slightly annoyed that I don't have this yet and that it hasn't even shipped. Should I just cancel and buy it digitally like the rest of humanity?
Quote from: Gusington on May 17, 2012, 02:52:56 PM
I'm getting slightly annoyed that I don't have this yet and that it hasn't even shipped. Should I just cancel and buy it digitally like the rest of humanity?
Yes.
Punish the unbelievers!
How long does the DL take? Forever this week, I'm guessing.
I think an hour or two depending on internet speed. I downloaded my 3 weeks ago, so I don't remember exactly. I do know that it was sitting on my hard drive just waiting to be installed on release day.
Quote from: Bison on May 17, 2012, 03:00:44 PM
I think an hour or two depending on internet speed. I downloaded my 3 weeks ago, so I don't remember exactly. I do know that it was sitting on my hard drive just waiting to be installed on release day.
Depends on your ISP. I bought it in the evening and didn't look for it until the next day.
Although I'm sure your local walmart, target, fred meyers, best buy, etc...has physical copies.
Quote from: Bison on May 17, 2012, 03:24:24 PM
Although I'm sure your local walmart, target, fred meyers, best buy, etc...has physical copies.
This. Best Buy will have tons, if you must have a physical copy. But it won't really do you any good, the physical copy will still DL all the files you need (that is what it did with StarCraft II).
I think you'd only have to download any games updates since the game discs were produced, which shouldn't be too much. I don't believe there was an update to the game that was released for the digital download pre-order.
I also broke down and bought the strategy guide today. It's nice and full of useful information. Worth the money IMO.
After hitting level 31 or so, on my Witch Doctor, I'm hoping I don't get too AoE spoiled before starting a different class.
I regularly get those bonus xp notifications, "Killed 17 enemies with one attack!" with that bitchin' Dire Bat spam (highest was mid-20s 8) ). I'll feel pretty wimpy if I'm just whack-a-mole'ing them one by one a lot with a different one. :P
Who published the strategy guide? The only guide I've purchased lately is for Skyrim.
Nefaro what difficulty level are you playing?
Quote from: Gusington on May 17, 2012, 07:46:21 PM
Who published the strategy guide? The only guide I've purchased lately is for Skyrim.
Bradley Games
OK my copy shipped a few hours ago. My nerd rage is lessening. Bison is a guide really necessary for a game like this? Is it mostly maps and such?
Quote from: Gusington on May 17, 2012, 09:26:31 PM
OK my copy shipped a few hours ago. My nerd rage is lessening. Bison is a guide really necessary for a game like this? Is it mostly maps and such?
I'm playing at Normal difficulty without a guide and having no problems. It wouldn't hurt to read the manual or figure out some tricks, but so far I think I'm doing fine without it. But I just unlocked crafting, and that could present some new challenges.
Quote from: Bison on May 17, 2012, 06:43:56 PM
I think you'd only have to download any games updates since the game discs were produced, which shouldn't be too much. I don't believe there was an update to the game that was released for the digital download pre-order.
To be honest, StarCraft 2 had me downloading gigabytes worth of data. I suspect the same with Diablo 3. When I worked at Ebgames, Blizzard games sometimes got "stocked" months before release, because they relied upon Blizzard.net to update them.
Quote from: Gusington on May 17, 2012, 09:26:31 PM
OK my copy shipped a few hours ago. My nerd rage is lessening. Bison is a guide really necessary for a game like this? Is it mostly maps and such?
I don't know what a guide would actually include. The maps are pretty much randomly generated, and it honestly isn't a difficult game to get a handle on. I've never played either of the previous Diablo games, and I'm having a blast.
My only complaint is that there aren't much in the way of ranged weapon drops. I need a new bow for my demon hunter, or I'm going to have to unlock some melee skills.
The guide simply fullfills a nerd need nothing more. Is it necessary? No. Is it awesome to look at the class skill trees and loot sets in full color book suitable for light throne reading? Damn straight it is.
Quote from: Bison on May 17, 2012, 11:13:59 PM
The guide simply fullfills a nerd need nothing more. Is it necessary? No. Is it awesome to look at the class skill trees and loot sets in full color book suitable for light throne reading? Damn straight it is.
This.
Also, you can geek out reading about all the monsters and their variations.
But I refuse to look at the quest/map part to avoid spoilers. BTW Arctic, the dungeon maps are random but the overland maps are pre-made.
Yeah I'm not looking at the campaign map or notes either until after I complete my solo play through on normal. I just enjoy the story and lore too much to want to spoil it.
On a side note: I have not yet found a unique item. Lot's of yellow and blue though. One thing that is happening to me is that I'll find a decent yellow, but bonus wise the blues are turning out to be better items more often than not.
I will skip the guide, since along with my physical copy this is also coming:
http://www.amazon.com/Diablo-III-Book-Cain-Deckard/dp/1608870634/ref=trdrt_tipp_dp_img_GWTB_507846?pf_rd_p=1367759962&pf_rd_s=right-4&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_i=507846&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=1CEP6JPHQN2FXS4BWNAP
Nerdly!
Quote from: Bison on May 18, 2012, 02:35:56 AM
Yeah I'm not looking at the campaign map or notes either until after I complete my solo play through on normal. I just enjoy the story and lore too much to want to spoil it.
On a side note: I have not yet found a unique item. Lot's of yellow and blue though. One thing that is happening to me is that I'll find a decent yellow, but bonus wise the blues are turning out to be better items more often than not.
Me neither. My friend found an orange on his first day of playing, but that is all. I think that the rare drops are quite rare until you get to the higher levels.
Also... and this is sort of low... but I wonder if they made the rare drops even rarer than D2 so they could generate an economy for their AH? Although I do know that you can craft oranges when you get to Impossible level and train your blacksmith.
Quote from: Gusington on May 18, 2012, 10:31:07 AM
I will skip the guide, since along with my physical copy this is also coming:
http://www.amazon.com/Diablo-III-Book-Cain-Deckard/dp/1608870634/ref=trdrt_tipp_dp_img_GWTB_507846?pf_rd_p=1367759962&pf_rd_s=right-4&pf_rd_t=101&pf_rd_i=507846&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_r=1CEP6JPHQN2FXS4BWNAP
Nerdly!
It looks rather thin compared to the 5 lbs tome I drag back and and forth from the lazy boy to the throne.
Quote from: son_of_montfort on May 18, 2012, 11:42:07 AM
Also... and this is sort of low... but I wonder if they made the rare drops even rarer than D2 so they could generate an economy for their AH? Although I do know that you can craft oranges when you get to Impossible level and train your blacksmith.
I've had that thought about the AH. I've been spending some money on the crafting weapons/armor and gems skill. It gets pretty expensive, but honestly the merchants in town have nothing to sell that I want so beyond purchasing more storage space what else is there to buy.
^Don't knock my tome's girth.
I'm just practicing my right to believe that a large tome is a good thing, not impose my belief in large tomes on you. It also has a lot of pictures in color.
^Your Mom thinks my tome is cool.
You don't have a tome you have a pamphlet is the rumor I've heard.
Don't knock it 'til you've read it sweetheart.
It's all in how you unfold it.
^That's what she said! The book is only 150 pages long to be honest but extremely well put together...looks custom made.
I was just fooling with you. I thought you didn't get anything but the box.
^Shouldn't you be playing right now?
Yes. I just wanted to check your install status buttercup.
Leaving to go and drink heavily now. Will either install later or totally wipe out my rig.
That sounds so much more fun than destroying the hordes of evil spawning from hell.
Quote from: Bison on May 18, 2012, 02:42:14 PM
That sounds so much more fun than destroying the hordes of evil spawning from hell.
A moderators work is never done! ;)
Well I soloed and killed Diablo. I may now resume my normal sleeping schedule.
Quote from: Bison on May 19, 2012, 05:43:06 AM
Well I soloed and killed Diablo. I may now resume my normal sleeping schedule.
Naw... you got four other classes to play and increased difficulty levels! Don't wimp out now! ;)
Wow one play through finished already? So how many hours total for that? 20?
I installed when I got home at 2:30am this morning. Was too tired to boot up and play.
SoM what did you mention in a previous post about the game set-up that makes the game more easily played for you? I'm too lazy to scroll back and look, but I remember you mentioned it is important.
Quote from: son_of_montfort on May 19, 2012, 10:57:55 AM
Quote from: Bison on May 19, 2012, 05:43:06 AM
Well I soloed and killed Diablo. I may now resume my normal sleeping schedule.
Naw... you got four other classes to play and increased difficulty levels! Don't wimp out now! ;)
True but I will feel much less need to stay up till 2-3 am.
Quote from: Gusington on May 19, 2012, 11:18:41 AM
Wow one play through finished already? So how many hours total for that? 20?
I installed when I got home at 2:30am this morning. Was too tired to boot up and play.
SoM what did you mention in a previous post about the game set-up that makes the game more easily played for you? I'm too lazy to scroll back and look, but I remember you mentioned it is important.
Well it took 22 hours and 11 mins, but I'm good Gus. Really super awesome good.
...........modest, don't forget modest ;)
Bob that goes without saying.
^lol
Well, my missus is really well into the game, it must be good to keep her off WoW for so long.
^Sounds like you have a good one there bob.
If I asked The Wife what Diablo was she would probably answer 'a spicy Spanish dish made with chicken.'
I think I am going to go with a male demon hunter as my player avatar...
Yeah, we both been hooked on computer games since we got a C64 back in the late 1970's, and we have always played board games, although most recently, it was Magic the Gathering. However, her bag is WoW type games whereas I'm a wargamer at heart.
I played WoW for maybe 3 years until I found it just got too samey, and I think that Blizz dumbed it down too much, so I retired my characters and closed my account - which did not stop some bast*rd from hacking my account!
However, since there were a lot of folk who knew I'd stopped, it was reported and the guy was caught quickly. Its unforunate that there is a lot of hacking in the game, almost everyone I know who plays it has been done, some more than once.
But yes, it keeps the old trout outta trouble and lets me play what I want....... :)
^That is romantic. Seriously. The Wife and I share few hobbies together since I am not fond of knitting and she is not fond of slaying demon hordes.
Have you considered introducing her to the idea of LARPing? You could start with a BoPeep and Wolf story... ;)
Quote from: Staggerwing on May 19, 2012, 06:54:31 PM
Have you considered introducing her to the idea of LARPing? You could start with a BoPeep and Wolf story... ;)
Kinky. :P
On paper it sounds good but she is so ground in reality it would never work. We're opposites.
Well started up nightmare level tonight with a random group, which was a good time. There was another monk in the group. It was pretty cool to be able to compare play styles and gear.
Quote from: Gusington on May 19, 2012, 06:47:16 PM
^That is romantic. Seriously. The Wife and I share few hobbies together since I am not fond of knitting and she is not fond of slaying demon hordes.
Maybe you could compromise and try knitting demon hordes?
.. or slaying with knitting needles and pet sweaters.
^Good points. Punny! I am just about done with my first Warlock campaign and will probably start a Diablo campaign as a demon hunter later today. That is, if I don't feel the need to cleanse my gaming palette with some more historical gaming first.
Quote from: Gusington on May 20, 2012, 12:37:41 PM
^Good points. Punny! I am just about done with my first Warlock campaign and will probably start a Diablo campaign as a demon hunter later today. That is, if I don't feel the need to cleanse my gaming palette with some more historical gaming first.
You are just going to sit by and let the hordes of hell go unpunished? This inaction makes humanity sad. So very, very sad.
^I may. Depends how I feel. I've been reading runes, casting spells and leading armies of undead for a few weeks. I may need a break and have to lead the British Empire to greatness first, or help liberate Greece from the Turks. Variety is the spice of life!
Your going back and playing Empire Total War?
Napoleon Total War, with the Darthmod and the National Revolutions mod that takes the game into the Age of Revolution, 1821-1848. Either Britain or Greece, depending on how cheeky I feel.
Unless the urge to jump into Diablo just grabs me and won't let go. I just haven't seen anyone post here on how amazing it is. Good, yes, but not amazing. Yet.
After getting a short ways into Nightmare mode with my Witch Doctor, and dying fairly regularly from being two- or three-shotted, I decided to try out some of the other classes.
And good god is the Monk a fiend! I'm damned sure he's the 800lb gorilla of the bunch and has a good deal of survivability. After playing some of the others, it's like living without fear (and kiting).
While the Barbarian may be fairly survivable, he doesn't seem to have the quick Get Out Of Jail Free abilities, either. :-\
Well I finally got my first Legendary Item. It dropped from a common monster go figure. A pretty sweet belt called Goldwrap.
Monks are awesome!
Quote from: Nefaro on May 20, 2012, 01:03:39 PM
After getting a short ways into Nightmare mode with my Witch Doctor, and dying fairly regularly from being two- or three-shotted, I decided to try out some of the other classes.
I die a lot in nightmare. Mobs hit harder and attacks like poison are DEADLY! You might just need to grind for some better gear. Also are you trying to max your primary stat at the expense of other stats and bonuses?
OK so I was weak and decided to start Diablo...it's a great mix of the Diablo I know and new powers, features and monsters. I just found Deckard Cain in the cathedral and have got to Level 6. There is a certain satisfaction the game illicits...moreso than Diablo 2, even though I am doing similar things as I did back then.
Playing as the Demon Hunter and love the perks and special powers. The rapid fire crossbow is totally ridiculously awesome.
Easy to see how Diablo 3 can become addictive. Game looks great and sounds great...reminds me a lot of my musical guilty pleasure, Enigma.
All in all a good first 90 minutes :)
Quote from: Bison on May 20, 2012, 03:05:00 PM
Quote from: Nefaro on May 20, 2012, 01:03:39 PM
After getting a short ways into Nightmare mode with my Witch Doctor, and dying fairly regularly from being two- or three-shotted, I decided to try out some of the other classes.
I die a lot in nightmare. Mobs hit harder and attacks like poison are DEADLY! You might just need to grind for some better gear. Also are you trying to max your primary stat at the expense of other stats and bonuses?
Think you die a lot in nightmare, wait till you get to hell mode. You'll be spending a good amount of time dead. Although I do like the difficulty of hell, that is were the game has really gotten good IMO. Its really forced me to get out of the pattern of stop, rapid fire, move to next group mentality I was in for normal and most of nightmare.
I hear you pretty much need to be grouped to progress in Hell mode.
*No, I wasn't necessarily solely focused on INT with my Witch Doctor, although I definitely liked to get it as an item bonus whenever possible (along with one or two Vitality ones). The big problem with my WD is running out of mana to power my Dire Bat onslaughts, then running around waiting until I get enough for another one or two - rinse & repeat. Since the mobs have a big jump in health, my AoE snare just doesn't have much of an effect, in the long run, on them anymore.
I want to start a WD next. I know that while I look for the DEX, VIT spec'd items; the INT and STR help with a rounded character. Armor and Resistance bonuses. I have found a few resistance rings, but I think that they will be situational at best. I need a few yellows that have resistance bonuses mixed in with the rest of the stat bonuses.
The soloing of nightmare is easy. Slightly slower, but not over powering. I'm dying in groups. Either uncontrolled pulls or split groups and I'm fighting the horde alone, which is fine. I'm a bad ass. However there have been several monsters with killer poison attacks that have resulted in most of my deaths.
Gear is huge. Cannot say that enough Gus. There was a 38 LVL monk this morning that was not keeping with me DPS wise and I was only 33 LVL at the time.
I have to say that Diablo does make the player feel like a badass. Badassery abounds and I am digging the destructible environments...really like bringing down chandeliers on the bastards. Love the death physics of the monsters too.
More familiar audio makes me feel at home. I think the audio prompt for gold and loot when a creature is killed is exactly the same one used in the last game.
I wonder a little about the "random" dungeon maps. The major dungeons seem to be layed out the same. The smaller encounter instances I am seeing variety of design. Anyone experience a completely new dungeons for the major questlines?
Quote from: Bison on May 20, 2012, 09:15:26 PM
I wonder a little about the "random" dungeon maps. The major dungeons seem to be layed out the same. The smaller encounter instances I am seeing variety of design. Anyone experience a completely new dungeons for the major questlines?
Most of the maps are not randomly mapped out, so they're the same each time.
The thing(s) that are random I've seen:
1) Mini-quests: The tiny little quests often to be found out in the big open areas that only require you to succeed at a challenge in that location. There's obviously a list of them for each big zone like that, and you get random pick(s) each time you load in.
2) Entrances to extra dungeons: The non-quest dungeons that you can just go in & loot, often on the same big maps as mentioned above. You'll notice quite a few entries/doors on those big maps but most are dark and unopenable. However, the usable entrances to these little dungeons use those spawn points at random.
Quote from: Gusington on May 20, 2012, 08:26:35 PM
I have to say that Diablo does make the player feel like a badass. Badassery abounds and I am digging the destructible environments...really like bringing down chandeliers on the bastards. Love the death physics of the monsters too.
More familiar audio makes me feel at home. I think the audio prompt for gold and loot when a creature is killed is exactly the same one used in the last game.
The music in the game is fantastic.
I'm playing a Demon Hunter as well. Wait until you unlock Bolo shot!
The sounds, overall, is wonderful. I also like how they've used the same sounds, for little things, from Diablo 2. When you roll a body over, and some loot comes flipping out - you know it's Diablo from the sound. The voice acting is pretty amazing too; probably one of the best ever. Did you realize the chinese actor who played Lo Pan in
Big Trouble In Little China does the voice acting for Covetous Shen, the gem vendor? 8) All the voice acting is superb, it's been an unforeseen surprise.
Quote from: Bison on May 20, 2012, 08:23:56 PM
I want to start a WD next. I know that while I look for the DEX, VIT spec'd items; the INT and STR help with a rounded character. Armor and Resistance bonuses. I have found a few resistance rings, but I think that they will be situational at best. I need a few yellows that have resistance bonuses mixed in with the rest of the stat bonuses.
If you're going to start a brand new Witch Doctor soon, I have a shiny new Legendary piece of head armor (level 10 req) you can have. Since it's level 10, there's not a huge demand for it, and it should help you burn through some stuff for a bit. My ID is Nefaro (surprise!) (my#= 1456). Send a friend request sometime when you start that one up.
I have a quick first impressions piece I just wrote about the game in general with me playing as the demon hunter. Hope to have it up soon. How are screenshots taken in D3? I've gotten very comfortable with F12 from Steam but alas not available here.
Quote from: Gusington on May 21, 2012, 09:33:23 AM
I have a quick first impressions piece I just wrote about the game in general with me playing as the demon hunter. Hope to have it up soon. How are screenshots taken in D3? I've gotten very comfortable with F12 from Steam but alas not available here.
Pretty sure it's the PrtScn/SysRq key.
Yep! Just checked. I usually go through the keybinding list and note down some of the more obscure key commands on paper, before playing anything. And that's it.
Quote from: Nefaro on May 21, 2012, 12:33:44 PM
Quote from: Gusington on May 21, 2012, 09:33:23 AM
I have a quick first impressions piece I just wrote about the game in general with me playing as the demon hunter. Hope to have it up soon. How are screenshots taken in D3? I've gotten very comfortable with F12 from Steam but alas not available here.
Pretty sure it's the PrtScn/SysRq key.
Yep! Just checked. I usually go through the keybinding list and note down some of the more obscure key commands on paper, before playing anything. And that's it.
Yes. Curiously, the images end up in the .../My Documents/Diablo III/Screenshots folder.
^Ironic! Thanks Nefaro.
I'm getting some good gut chuckles on some of the random placement stuff, on Nightmare difficulty. Like a couple cultist tomes (voiced over of course!) with a correspondence back & forth about the need for "more peasants for sacrifice needed!". Another one was an outdoor cultist mumbling words over some dead goat guys; his "I'll be called LORD OF THE GOATS!" speech is pretty funny too. Some not-so-serious stuff I'm seeing now. 8)
First impressions article
http://grogheads.com/first-diablo3.html
Oh dear. Accounts are being hacked all over the place. (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/05/21/shout-at-the-devil-blizzard-acknowledges-diablo-iii-hacks/) I particularly agree with these lines from the article:
QuoteJust because a heavily server-based infrastructure thickens your hulls against pirates and knocks down the barrier between single and multiplayer, that doesn't mean it's anywhere near unassailable. Time will tell what kind of toll these issues take in the long run, but for now, this certainly doesn't look like the cure to all of PC gaming's greatest perceived ills.
^Oy vey.
Well.. using an e-mail as the login already gives hackers half of what they need.
Since most webmail has been increasingly selling targeted (aka mail spied) advertising, the account hackers & phishers have found a new avenue of approach because they're some of the ones buying up mail account names that mentioned, for example, "blizzard" in some of their emails. As you can imagine, they'll spam it with phishing emails related to the account, and in cases like this where the login name is your email name - they just do their best to hack passwords. The easier, the faster.
I find it charmingly retro that we have to play an 8 GB game online instead of our hard drives.
That's why you get the account authenticator. Account hacking is unfortunately common in MMOs and frankly any activity done online. Protect your accounts as best as you can and be vigilant especially if there is a financial account associated.
I've been reading this morning that it's a man-in-the-middle attack that steals a valid session ID, so an authenticator isn't enough in this case unfortunately. Apparently the advice right now is to steer clear of Diablo wikis (and other fansites) and don't play with people you don't know.
You have a link? I'd be interested to read about this.
Last night's RPS article (http://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2012/05/21/shout-at-the-devil-blizzard-acknowledges-diablo-iii-hacks/) is a good place to start, with plenty of links therein.
Blizzard maintains that none of the accounts hacked had an Authenticator attached to them. If you have a smart phone, you can get the Authenticator app for free. Otherwise, I believe you can get a keychain Authenticator for something around ~$7. To me, particularly if you also play WoW, it was worth it. The method RPS suggests of a "man-in-the-middle" attack has not been confirmed, so the easiest thing to do right now is attach an authenticator and hope for the best.
I looked at the Authenticator on Android. It's free, but folks are claiming it's slow. The latest version isn't always on, which means it doesn't suck data like before, but since I'm only gaming solo and will likely only game multiplayer with you guys, I'm not too worried about my account being stolen.
I just finished Act I. That boss level was tough - had to play four of rive times to get through it.
Is the MP component supposed to be like Gauntlet? Because that would rock.
Multiplayer is fun. Harder monsters and better lootz. As an added bonus, you can laugh at your friends when they die and blame them when you die! It's a win -win. What's not to like?
^I'm with you and ready. How many people can be in one MP party?
Four.
Like Gauntlet.
Yeah. Only with better graphics and without someone whinging "Valkyrie is about to die! Valkyrie needs food badly!" all the time.
I have found that I can only really play for about an hour a time and then my wrist starts to get sore. Shows how long it has been since the last Diablo. I was 25 when that came out and could have played for hours. Not so much now.
^Real easy target for wrist jokes.
Seriously there really isn't a ton of clicking. I cannot carry on the conversation without making a Gus masterbates too much joke.
By the way Gus, I'm still waiting on you to send the friend request. It's the first step to multiplayer gaming fun.
^I know, I know...what's your handle number again? PM me if you don't want to post it.
Just wash your hands before you type my name. The thought of what you just did before typing my name makes me sick. Also if you laid off laying yourself for a few days your wrist might feel better.
I can't help it The Wife has been away. Not that it would really matter.
I would recommend anyone wanting to friend someone does it through PM. You never know who is lurking in the shadows here.
Like me, for example.
Post-masterbation? That's a tough call, but I'm sure there are worse horrors out there.
Me doing that is the least of the world's worries.
I'm just trying to help you fix your wrist so you can spend more time on Diablo 3.
I'll get an ace bandage and some callous remover and it will be a whole new world.
Did I already mention I found some legendary gear? Diablo doesn't get any better then killing a monster and seeing a legendary piece of loot lying on the ground.
Quote from: Gusington on May 22, 2012, 02:34:55 PM
I have found that I can only really play for about an hour a time and then my wrist starts to get sore. Shows how long it has been since the last Diablo. I was 25 when that came out and could have played for hours. Not so much now.
Put on your Geekwristbands, dose up on prescription meds, and shred that mofo further! ;D
Bison says the legendaries are worth it! Everyone's doin' it man!
Quote from: Bison on May 22, 2012, 02:49:37 PM
I would recommend anyone wanting to friend someone does it through PM. You never know who is lurking in the shadows here.
I wish we had enough lurkers to worry about, but we don't (yet).
Still, it never hurts.
Quote from: Bison on May 22, 2012, 02:28:44 PM
Yeah. Only with better graphics and without someone whinging "Valkyrie is about to die! Valkyrie needs food badly!" all the time.
BISON SHOT THE FOOD!
OK so when do I start to get some really phat lootz? Like supercharged weapons perfect for my class?
Quote from: Gusington on May 22, 2012, 08:13:11 PM
OK so when do I start to get some really phat lootz? Like supercharged weapons perfect for my class?
Well honestly it's easier to get "phat lootz" when you play in a group with friends. Increases the odds of something you need dropping and a friend is more likely to past it on to you. The Demon Hunter I'm playing with some friends is rocking dual yellow hand crossbows. She is a killing machine.
I finally ended up using the Auction Market to get a high end bow. I've been able to craft most of my armor, and grabbed some sweet drops to fill in the rest. But I hadn't been able to land a really badass bow to match. But I bought one, and I've got a bid in on a second.
Quote from: Arctic Blast on May 23, 2012, 12:16:39 AM
I finally ended up using the Auction Market to get a high end bow. I've been able to craft most of my armor, and grabbed some sweet drops to fill in the rest. But I hadn't been able to land a really badass bow to match. But I bought one, and I've got a bid in on a second.
What kind of money are you talking about?
For those of you interested in following the financial side, here's the latest press release regarding Diablo III sales:
QuoteBlizzard Entertainment, Inc. today announced that as of the first 24 hours of Diablo® III's release, more than 3.5 million copies had been sold, setting the new all-time record for fastest-selling PC game.* That number does not include the more than 1.2 million players who received Diablo III as part of signing up for the World of Warcraft® Annual Pass promotion. Altogether, more than 4.7 million gamers around the world were poised to storm Sanctuary on day 1 of Diablo III's release -- representing the biggest PC-game launch in history.
As of the first week of the game's availability, that number had already grown to more than 6.3 million.* The above figures also do not include players in Korean Internet game rooms, where Diablo III has become the top-played game, achieving a record share of more than 39% as of May 22.â€
Wowzers. 3.5M x 59.99...
According to my math Blizzard now has all the money in the universe.
Quote from: Gusington on May 23, 2012, 09:26:57 AM
Wowzers. 3.5M x 59.99...
According to my math Blizzard now has all the money in the universe.
It says "after the first week it's grown to 6.3M".
So adjust your calculation to 6.3M x $59.99.
That should equal approximately all the money that ever existed in time-space. ;)
^That is a lot.
Quote from: LongBlade on May 23, 2012, 07:53:50 AM
Quote from: Arctic Blast on May 23, 2012, 12:16:39 AM
I finally ended up using the Auction Market to get a high end bow. I've been able to craft most of my armor, and grabbed some sweet drops to fill in the rest. But I hadn't been able to land a really badass bow to match. But I bought one, and I've got a bid in on a second.
What kind of money are you talking about?
In game gold.
Quote from: Bison on May 23, 2012, 03:09:26 PM
Quote from: LongBlade on May 23, 2012, 07:53:50 AM
Quote from: Arctic Blast on May 23, 2012, 12:16:39 AM
I finally ended up using the Auction Market to get a high end bow. I've been able to craft most of my armor, and grabbed some sweet drops to fill in the rest. But I hadn't been able to land a really badass bow to match. But I bought one, and I've got a bid in on a second.
What kind of money are you talking about?
In game gold.
Ah.
So I shouldn't be blowing all my game gold on leveling up the blacksmith?
gold is easy to come by. crafting is really if you plan on sticking with the game through inferno. i'm doing it, but my buddies and i are in it for the long haul.
To finish my thoughts. I'm not sure that the cost benefit is there for crafting if you only plan to play normal through nightmare. Now that being said there will be a market for crafting materials that you get from deconstructing magic items. However, it'll be the high end mats that are really in demand. Yet you might be able to put some of the low end stuff on the AH and make a little money from selling it. Also the lower end rare gear you can supplement what you find with AH purchases and get more out of your gold, if you are only in it again for the first couple of difficulties.
Soloing is near impossible once you get into the 2nd Chapter of Nightmare level. I can do the trash no problem. However the blues/yellows that spawn can quickly overwhelm a solo player. Even with my monk heals, I cannot keep up with the damage. So find yourself a good partner and like any PUG YMMV with how effective the group is.
Anyway if anyone here needs a friend to help quest shoot me a PM.
Quote from: Bison on May 23, 2012, 06:26:07 PM
Soloing is near impossible once you get into the 2nd Chapter of Nightmare level. I can do the trash no problem. However the blues/yellows that spawn can quickly overwhelm a solo player. Even with my monk heals, I cannot keep up with the damage. So find yourself a good partner and like any PUG YMMV with how effective the group is.
Anyway if anyone here needs a friend to help quest shoot me a PM.
I'm nearing the end of Act 2, on Nightmare, with my Monk. He's melting faces & taking names. My most survivable character, by far.
Between his heal buff (w/ extra heal power rune), his 3sec Invincibility spell(w/ heal rune), and his nice 36+% Dodge - I don't have to worry about his health very often.
... and PBAoE basic attack that gives attack speed debuff.. and... and.. beastly.
Try some different skill & rune setups if you're getting smashed.
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Quote from: Bison on May 23, 2012, 06:26:07 PM
Soloing is near impossible once you get into the 2nd Chapter of Nightmare level. I can do the trash no problem. However the blues/yellows that spawn can quickly overwhelm a solo player. Even with my monk heals, I cannot keep up with the damage. So find yourself a good partner and like any PUG YMMV with how effective the group is.
Anyway if anyone here needs a friend to help quest shoot me a PM.
I'm nearing the end of Act 2, on Nightmare, with my Monk. He's melting faces & taking names. My most survivable character, by far.
Between his heal buff (w/ extra heal power rune), his 3sec Invincibility spell(w/ heal rune), and his nice 36+% Dodge - I don't have to worry about his health very often.
... and PBAoE basic attack that gives attack speed debuff.. and... and.. beastly.
Try some different skill & rune setups if you're getting smashed.
My biggest issue is that I've out grown my gear. If I go slow and steady instead of a headlong charge into the fire, I'm fine. It's the add-ons with either fire or poison attack that wipe the floor with my warm corpse.
Quote from: Bison on May 23, 2012, 07:30:53 PM
My biggest issue is that I've out grown my gear. If I go slow and steady instead of a headlong charge into the fire, I'm fine. It's the add-ons with either fire or poison attack that wipe the floor with my warm corpse.
Yeah, you can't get
too far behind in loot on the higher difficulties. But I thought the biggest hump was when first starting Nightmare (on 2 characters). That really makes you take notice of the slots you've let languish for a bit. After getting up to speed, though, it was back to cruisin' through stuff again for me.
My 3rd character through Normal mode is the Demon Hunter, which is quite a glass cannon but dayum the DPS is crazy. Kill stuff so fast, they rarely touch you.
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I finally ended up using the Auction Market to get a high end bow. I've been able to craft most of my armor, and grabbed some sweet drops to fill in the rest. But I hadn't been able to land a really badass bow to match. But I bought one, and I've got a bid in on a second.
What kind of money are you talking about?
In game gold.
Ah.
So I shouldn't be blowing all my game gold on leveling up the blacksmith?
Actually, leveling up the blacksmith worked out well for me in terms of armor. I just couldn't get a bow.
And of course, after buying one I then received a Legendary drop crossbow. But it wasn't as good as the one I bought, so I'm selling that bad boy. ;D
I mostly levelled my Blacksmith & Gemcrafter (Lo Pan!) on my first character. It was also the most useful on that one as I expanded my Stash slots and tuck away the Rares I get, for use by the other character classes I'll eventually get there (maybe).
On subsequent characters, it only rarely gets used to fill lacking slots - much of it is filled with yellows previously found.
EDIT: I've laid off playing during peak hours, in the evening, because I'm still seeing some small latency spikes. They're enough to occasionally make me warp, but the most annoying is when I hit a mouse button/key to fire a skill and it doesn't go off. >:( In action-y games like this, it needs to be reliable & quick. Having to repeatedly hammer a skill to get it to fire once, is frustrating. The Hardcore players are up in arms about it, understandably.
Quote from: Nefaro on May 24, 2012, 09:24:34 AM
EDIT: I've laid off playing during peak hours, in the evening, because I'm still seeing some small latency spikes. They're enough to occasionally make me warp, but the most annoying is when I hit a mouse button/key to fire a skill and it doesn't go off. >:( In action-y games like this, it needs to be reliable & quick. Having to repeatedly hammer a skill to get it to fire once, is frustrating. The Hardcore players are up in arms about it, understandably.
This is wholly self-inflicted. There is no excuse for needing to go online to play the game solo. None.
Quote from: Nefaro on May 24, 2012, 09:24:34 AM
The Hardcore players are up in arms about it, understandably.
I don't doubt it, but everyone bought the bloody game anyway, it's even broken records apparently. So Blizzard aren't going to give a shit about what they will call the vocal minority. I do wish gamers would stand up to this kind of crap.
^Too late now. I used to care more about it myself until it was obvious that it didn't matter.
^You know what? I'm starting to care again. I can't play right now because I cannot download an update according to the game and there is something wrong with my internet connection (there isn't).
grrrr...
I haven't had any real big issues since the first few days following release. There are lag spikes occasionally, but nothing out of line with normal online games.
I do enjoy playing solo for some solitude, but the game is really special when you find a group of players who have a similar approach to the game. I like to make sure I bash every container, over turn every rock and dead body and kill every monster in search of loot. If I end up in a group of players who skip to the major events or only do the random dungeons, I'll leave game and find a new one.
I managed to get the game updated finally and then played for an hour. Thing is so addicting. Anyone playing with a partner NPC? I've partnered up with the templar.
I ended up partnering with the Enchantress. Her skills just seemed to match better with my monk.
^She's hawt too isn't she...
I was wondering which of the voice actresses have the sexiest voice. I think it's gotta be the Female Demon Hunter.
Damn.. I've spent too much time with this lately. :-*
Quote from: Gusington on May 24, 2012, 08:21:20 PM
I managed to get the game updated finally and then played for an hour. Thing is so addicting. Anyone playing with a partner NPC? I've partnered up with the templar.
I've spent the most time with the Templar, too. You can turn him in to a monster melee guy with bonuses that help him wade in, which mixes well with you blasting arrows from the outside.
The Templar's nice because he will occasionally give you a small heal. His DPS is junk, even compared to the rest of them.
The biggest benefit these windbag sidekicks give are their buffs & debuffs IMO. Notable options are the Templars health regen (and aforementioned heals of course), the Rogue's Crit Chance bonus, and the Enchantress' Attack Speed bonus. Also, when you give them stuff that gives you Magic Find or bonus XP, for example, you'll a small portion of that carried over to your own stats - not much though.
I got sick of the Templar as a companion because I found his rambling annoying pretty quickly. While the rogue is halfway amusing (and I still hear new stuff from him triggered by unusual environment situations), and the Enchantress talks the least of all. Their repetitiveness gets tiresome after awhile, and that's the reason I like the rogue - he seems to have more variety.
Quote from: Nefaro on May 24, 2012, 11:34:24 PM
The Templar's nice because he will occasionally give you a small heal. His DPS is junk, even compared to the rest of them.
The biggest benefit these windbag sidekicks give are their buffs & debuffs IMO. Notable options are the Templars health regen (and aforementioned heals of course), the Rogue's Crit Chance bonus, and the Enchantress' Attack Speed bonus. Also, when you give them stuff that gives you Magic Find or bonus XP, for example, you'll a small portion of that carried over to your own stats - not much though.
I got sick of the Templar as a companion because I found his rambling annoying pretty quickly. While the rogue is halfway amusing (and I still hear new stuff from him triggered by unusual environment situations), and the Enchantress talks the least of all. Their repetitiveness gets tiresome after awhile, and that's the reason I like the rogue - he seems to have more variety.
I HATE the Enchantress. The instant she uttered that giggly nonsense about "Oh, just remembering something the prophet said about you...TEEHEEHEEE" I teleported to town, sold all the gear I'd given her, and ditched her.
And stop calling him a Rogue. He's a Scoundrel. ;D Greatest class name ever.
MEET THE BISON!
Here I am in all my awesome glory:
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Some scenes of me putting the smack down and getting smacked down attempting to take zoomed in screenshots for which the little fire chain duo of death paid the ultimate price; Bison Beat Down.
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Bison will return! Apparently! :)
I really wouldn't mind playing this. Damn my principles!
You only live once and what's the worst that happens? You lose $60 for an awesome diablo loot hunting ride.
Quote from: Bison on May 25, 2012, 06:05:08 AM
You only live once and what's the worst that happens? You lose $60 for an awesome diablo loot hunting ride.
Heh. There's a million other games out there; I don't really feel like I'm missing out, and my principles mean too much to me. I really, genuinely believe it's important that gamers make a stand against this kind of thing.
All I'm saying is it's a bit tempting. I loved Diablo 2 and all these screenshots of Diablo 3 are making me feel nostalgic. If it hadn't been for the DRM I'd have been in on day one. :)
^Bison's above quote actually appears on the box that my Diablo III game arrived in.
Quote from: Gusington on May 25, 2012, 09:15:52 AM
^Bison's above quote actually appears on the box that my Diablo III game arrived in.
This one??
Quote from: Bison on May 25, 2012, 06:05:08 AM
You only live once and what's the worst that happens? You lose $60 for an awesome diablo loot hunting ride.
:P
Bison standing over a vanquished Diablo on Nightmare level.
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PWND the Prime Evil!
I'm afraid of Hell level...
I now have 3 in Nightmare: Demon Hunter, Monk, and Witch Doctor. I've been really enjoying the Demon Hunter lately.
If anyone's doing some Nightmare mode this weekend, and wants to join for phat loot, let me know!
Demon Hunter fun -
Note the post-processing makes the fog on outdoor areas look blurry. Not too crazy about that, myself.
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Nice I love the rapid fire skill.
Quote from: Bison on May 25, 2012, 06:00:20 PM
Nice I love the rapid fire skill.
Great gaming with you today, Bison. Good times, even if I did die like a dog.
Quote from: Bison on May 25, 2012, 06:00:20 PM
Nice I love the rapid fire skill.
Makes single target takedowns (like boss fights) quick & easy.
I prefer the Ball Lightning for use on crowds. The lowly cost of Elemental Arrow (10) lets you spam it, and the Ball Lightning rune gives them a n AoE while they travel. Excellent for killing crowds. I sometimes used the Chakram (mostly before I got Ball Lightning) but sometimes I'll switch the same slot to one of those for a change.
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Quote from: Bison on May 25, 2012, 06:00:20 PM
Nice I love the rapid fire skill.
Great gaming with you today, Bison. Good times, even if I did die like a dog.
Yeah it go a little hairy several times.
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Quote from: LongBlade on May 25, 2012, 07:42:11 PM
Quote from: Bison on May 25, 2012, 06:00:20 PM
Nice I love the rapid fire skill.
Great gaming with you today, Bison. Good times, even if I did die like a dog.
Yeah it go a little hairy several times.
Totally worth it - that crossbow you gave me is kicking @$$ and taking names. Going back to my regular quest on normal level and I'm waxing Yellows with no sweat. Got killed once for not paying attention to health and getting cocky. It rocks.
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Quote from: Bison on May 25, 2012, 06:00:20 PM
Nice I love the rapid fire skill.
Great gaming with you today, Bison. Good times, even if I did die like a dog.
Yeah it go a little hairy several times.
Totally worth it - that crossbow you gave me is kicking @$$ and taking names. Going back to my regular quest on normal level and I'm waxing Yellows with no sweat. Got killed once for not paying attention to health and getting cocky. It rocks.
It'll be hard to give up when the time comes, but it should hold you for a few more levels.
There is a lot of depth and subtlety to the game. I've been playing around with builds and different equipment based stats; it's not as simple as "O looky I found a DEX item for my Demon Hunter." There are dozens of little stat modifiers that tweek your hero just a little bit that will squeeze out the extra DPS or make them slightly more resistance to a certain type of attack. Doing this I really miss the D2 concept of 2 weapon sets. I'd love to have 2 complete equipment set swaps hot key.
Apparently youve all been cheating and playing it too easily!!
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2012/05/why-is-diablo-iii-still-a-work-in-progress/
Quote from: undercovergeek on May 26, 2012, 03:43:23 AM
Apparently youve all been cheating and playing it too easily!!
http://arstechnica.com/gaming/2012/05/why-is-diablo-iii-still-a-work-in-progress/
Reducing escape skill duration from 2 seconds.. to 1? Seriously? Why the F would you bother slotting a 1 second 'disappear' skill now? I thought two seconds was cutting it close.
havent got the game Nef - but i take it this is bad news?
Quote from: undercovergeek on May 26, 2012, 09:26:53 AM
havent got the game Nef - but i take it this is bad news?
Not a gamebreaker because there are so many skills to choose from. It just sounds like they're further making a few more pretty useless, though, because there are still some that just suck. And now that list grows.
I think Blizzard just wants to slowly make the game more difficult to attempt keeping people from farming legendaries on higher difficulties without lots of deaths. If there's one thing Bliz is known for - it's annoying ability nerfs. ::)
I would hope that they will eventually add skills bonuses onto gear.
This is some multiplayer with Gus. I'm going to assume that Gus was slightly confused when a Witch Doctor popped into his game and started killing demons next to him. Gus the awesome Witch Doctor was me. I'm also going to assume that Gus was a big grumpy pants last night. Not even one little text in game. :'( It's ok, Gus, I forgive you!
Gus and I kicking butt and not taking names.
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Gus hitting on Leah. I'm pretty sure Gus was in awe of this pixel hottie.
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Quote from: Nefaro on May 26, 2012, 09:30:02 AM
I think Blizzard just wants to slowly make the game more difficult to attempt keeping people from farming legendaries on higher difficulties without lots of deaths. If there's one thing Bliz is known for - it's annoying ability nerfs. ::)
I can assure you that dying on Hell level is far too easy. It's near impossible to solo. Nearly every blue is an elemental something; fire chain, arcane, molten, etc...so meleeing the bastards is very hard to do. With my monk I get a 3 sec serenity (I think it maybe called something else) that makes me immune to all damage. 3 freaking seconds! I attempted to solo a 3 blue fire chain group. I died enough to have to repair twice. I think even if I had my Demon Hunter at Hell level, I'd be helpless in Chapter 1 because there is almost no room to kite in the Cathedral and other indoor levels. Now I'm not complaining about the difficulty, but good freaking lord my loot drops have not helped at all. It's always a chapter or six behind in quality. Basically starting with Hell you are slowly forced into group play if you want to progress through the difficulty level. I suspect eventually you could solo after a full run and some serious farming for gear.
^
This is why you have to be an AOE ranged master like the Witch Doctor! ;D
I'm progressing sort of slowly, but I should be near the end of normal level soon (Act IV). I'm definitely going to have to tighten my WD build to deal with higher level threats - at the moment I'm just a hybrid of summons and spells. That will have to change and I'll either have to pick direct damage, AoE, or streamlined summons. The problem is, I can't conceive of playing without zombie dogs... although they may not be the most efficient killers.
After hitting Nightmare mode, I've switched over to using more AoE type DoTs (and running away!) and an AoE blaster (like Zombie Charger that multiplies per kill) on my Witch Doctor. The WD probably has the least amount of escape skills available so DoT & run has become my main M.O.
I stopped using zombie dogs somewhere in the middle of Normal mode after getting the Gargantuan with the aoe swing. He just lasts far longer against the bigger enemies. I've actually used both of them, for a short time, but I dunno if the extra pet slot use is worth it or not. Overall, the WD is a very slow killer - even moreso with primarily DoTs for big-hitters. Easy to die if you get stuck or surrounded. :-\
It was a little hard to get confused with the text 'Bison' below the witch doctor...TEEHEE. I was dead tired last night after a day of hiking and kayaking and more than a little dehydrated. Sorry for the abruptness of my departure, one of my kids woke up (it was close to 1am).
I will be playing again tonight probably around midnight my time if you want to drop in again Bison...or anyone else who wants to friend me and come along.
LB I sent out a friend request to you but haven't heard anything back. Did you get it? Subtle message? :)
And yes I would do Leah.
Quote from: Gusington on May 27, 2012, 02:19:58 PM
And yes I would do Leah.
Yuck! Seriously... without too much of a spoiler... yuck! ???
Anyway,
I'm playing on American servers, anyone knows of any good way to locate each other.
I keep forgetting my stupid #number thing that get affixed to the username. :P
^Remembering the number would be a good start, then we could all send you friend requests and would be automatically told when you're online.
I'd still do Leah.
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Quote from: Gusington on May 27, 2012, 02:19:58 PM
And yes I would do Leah.
Yuck! Seriously... without too much of a spoiler... yuck! ???
Anyway,
I'm playing on American servers, anyone knows of any good way to locate each other.
I keep forgetting my stupid #number thing that get affixed to the username. :P
You battlenet ID I believe is on the main screen or you just need to log onto your account and it's easy to see on the front page.
Just a couple of observations from Hell.
1. Folks do not understand how Magic Find % works. If I have 40% and the other 2 players in my group have 0% and 5% respectively, then the group Magic find is (40+0+5)/3= 15% This of course leads to more often than not white/blue then yellow drops since drops are a random seed effected by MF%, difficulty level, monster level and party size. So when folks complain about loot finds, in part that is due to the fact that the odds are increasingly against you with a lower magic find group. While gear farming you need magic find to max out the random yellow boss kills.
2. Resist element drops are not rare. What is rare is a element resist with another stat or two. See point one for my current theory.
3. I soloed a good bit this morning and got several yellow drops. I go into a group and get 0. See point 1.
4. A lot of people ignore other stat modifiers in order to max DPS and Armor. Sure you do more damage, but there are other ways to burst damage or increase DPS beyond maxing primary stat. Blizzard is not helping by making the primary stat increase so much more alluring than say 5% attack speed bonus or 2% increase crit chance.
Note my opinions with change most likely within the next hour.
Quote from: son_of_montfort on May 27, 2012, 11:22:00 AM
^
This is why you have to be an AOE ranged master like the Witch Doctor! ;D
I'm progressing sort of slowly, but I should be near the end of normal level soon (Act IV). I'm definitely going to have to tighten my WD build to deal with higher level threats - at the moment I'm just a hybrid of summons and spells. That will have to change and I'll either have to pick direct damage, AoE, or streamlined summons. The problem is, I can't conceive of playing without zombie dogs... although they may not be the most efficient killers.
Same place I'm at. I had to go back and grind out a couple of levels and grab some new gear to get my damage up. Early attempts at Diablo were...pathetic. I may as well have been hurling insults at him.
Come to think of it, I was. I suspect any damage he incurred was probably hurt feelings.
Quote from: Nefaro on May 27, 2012, 01:28:03 PM
After hitting Nightmare mode, I've switched over to using more AoE type DoTs (and running away!) and an AoE blaster (like Zombie Charger that multiplies per kill) on my Witch Doctor. The WD probably has the least amount of escape skills available so DoT & run has become my main M.O.
I stopped using zombie dogs somewhere in the middle of Normal mode after getting the Gargantuan with the aoe swing. He just lasts far longer against the bigger enemies. I've actually used both of them, for a short time, but I dunno if the extra pet slot use is worth it or not. Overall, the WD is a very slow killer - even moreso with primarily DoTs for big-hitters. Easy to die if you get stuck or surrounded. :-\
If anything I would not say that my WD is a "slow killer." Drop an acid rain, hit with dire firebats or locusts and finish up with firebombs (if needed) and I have killed entire groups within seconds. I use ZDs and Gargantuan, just for added effect. And when I tweaked my build to have Spirit Barrage and Haunt instead, I literally killed an Act 3 boss before he stopped saying his initial taunt. It was sort of wild.
But I also bought some items from the AH to up my Int to wild levels (I think my DPS is something like 500 still at level 33). I'm thinking of binding Spirit Barrage as my primary button, although firebombs is a nice AoE cleaner.
As to escape skills, you have Horrify (which scares them from you), Spirit Walk, and Mass Confusion. Zombie Wall also is a defensive/offensive, but the cooldown is really long for that one.
I'll try to get my username/number so I can get unexpected visits from people.
Quote from: Bison4. A lot of people ignore other stat modifiers in order to max DPS and Armor. Sure you do more damage, but there are other ways to burst damage or increase DPS beyond maxing primary stat. Blizzard is not helping by making the primary stat increase so much more alluring than say 5% attack speed bonus or 2% increase crit chance.
It really depends on the character or build. If you have a lot of 150-200% damage skills, I think maxing DPS is the way to go. If you have a lot of lower 80-100% damage skills, and your character has special abilities that can fire, then upping critical chance and critical damage is a good strategy. You should ALWAYS try to find +vitality along with your main stat, because adding 300 HP+ for one item alone can be life or death.
For my initial run-through I tried to get items with +monster kill XP (I think I am at 80 bonus xp per kill). I will drop that in Nightmare level, because the XP gains make that insignificant. I'm not big on +magic item find. If you can get it on an item, that sounds great, but I don't actively seek it out. I much prefer +Life and Mana Regen, particularly Life Regen. But the WD has to either specifically slot his skills to heal or have no healing at all, so that is more a priority than, say, the Monk who has designated healing skills.
Quote from: Gusington on May 27, 2012, 02:19:58 PM
LB I sent out a friend request to you but haven't heard anything back. Did you get it? Subtle message? :)
I don't think I've seen it, but I'm thinking I'm needing help defeating Belial.
^Hmm. Crap.
Quote from: LongBlade on May 27, 2012, 08:22:34 PM
Quote from: Gusington on May 27, 2012, 02:19:58 PM
LB I sent out a friend request to you but haven't heard anything back. Did you get it? Subtle message? :)
I don't think I've seen it, but I'm thinking I'm needing help defeating Belial.
Well next time I'm on I'll lend you a helping hand.
Quote from: Bison on May 27, 2012, 08:36:19 PM
Quote from: LongBlade on May 27, 2012, 08:22:34 PM
Quote from: Gusington on May 27, 2012, 02:19:58 PM
LB I sent out a friend request to you but haven't heard anything back. Did you get it? Subtle message? :)
I don't think I've seen it, but I'm thinking I'm needing help defeating Belial.
Thanks. I think I got killed ten times in a row. At some point you have to come the the conclusion that you just don't have enough firepower.
Well next time I'm on I'll lend you a helping hand.
Quote from: son_of_montfort on May 27, 2012, 07:56:52 PM
Quote from: Bison4. A lot of people ignore other stat modifiers in order to max DPS and Armor. Sure you do more damage, but there are other ways to burst damage or increase DPS beyond maxing primary stat. Blizzard is not helping by making the primary stat increase so much more alluring than say 5% attack speed bonus or 2% increase crit chance.
It really depends on the character or build. If you have a lot of 150-200% damage skills, I think maxing DPS is the way to go. If you have a lot of lower 80-100% damage skills, and your character has special abilities that can fire, then upping critical chance and critical damage is a good strategy. You should ALWAYS try to find +vitality along with your main stat, because adding 300 HP+ for one item alone can be life or death.
For my initial run-through I tried to get items with +monster kill XP (I think I am at 80 bonus xp per kill). I will drop that in Nightmare level, because the XP gains make that insignificant. I'm not big on +magic item find. If you can get it on an item, that sounds great, but I don't actively seek it out. I much prefer +Life and Mana Regen, particularly Life Regen. But the WD has to either specifically slot his skills to heal or have no healing at all, so that is more a priority than, say, the Monk who has designated healing skills.
The problem is that a build that works in Normal will hit a small wall in Nightmare, but will still work eventually as/if your gear keeps up. However at Hell level and above the builds are completely different. The VIT is important but if you are depending on a high DPS kill rate a glass mage is not a bad strategy, because you are not going to intentionally get into a melee situation. So sacrificing a +VIT for say +crit, +life regen, +mana bonus is a worthy comprimise. The Gems slots can make up for stat bonuses in such a swap.
The Find Magic is important when farming. Eventually you are going to hit a wall where your gear is at it's limits and you are not pulling a better piece. In the Hell level you still will pull level 19 or more common 10 levels below your level. The Find Magic increases your odds of pulling yellow, orange or level equal blues. Is it optimal when you are going into a known boss fight or a run to move up a chapter? No. However I usually try to keep some armor and helmet with slot for farming.
I've been trying to keep over +30% Magic Find while playing. Once you pass about +35 it really starts to get noticeable - your pack fills up with blues and yellows more quickly.
My numba is 1 4 5 6. "Nefaro". Top Secret Ninja Sh*t! :P
I'll turn my Open Join option back on. ;)
The AH (when it works) seems to mitigate the need for loot farming. That Blacksmith isn't too bad, but needing to get those pages is going to be a pain in the neck.
The AH is going to be hard to keep up with for Hell/Inferno level worthy gear. Your talking 1-2 million gold per item and once you factor in the real $ AH your picking will become even slimmer. I for one am not giving a damned penny to a gear farmer.
Anyway the point is you will either end up farming for gear/gold/pages. It's the Diablo design.
Nefaro I'll send you a friend invite.
Amazing what some new gear can do for ya!
After multiple attempts at Diablo, and multiple butt kickings that left me swearing at the screen, I did some level grinding for Gold to buy upgrades. Jumped my total number of HP from about 2,600 to over 4,000. My damage had been a pathetic 300 or so. Now it's over 700.
And Diablo died. Actually, he died pretty damn easy. I probably over dead the spec up. ;D
So Nightmare looms...perhaps as a Monk this time.
My group ran into an insurmountable blue group this evening. Besides the fact that they were blue which gives them more hit points and harder hitting attacks. They were also plagued, molten and self healing. So they would have a trail of fire, stand in a pool of poison and slowly regenerate health. Did I mention they were FAST? I cannot even imagine what Inferno level is like because this is only Chapter 1 of Hell. It was the most frustrating 45 minutes, before we decided to move onto another area of the map board.
Quote from: Bison on May 28, 2012, 02:34:21 AM
My group ran into an insurmountable blue group this evening. Besides the fact that they were blue which gives them more hit points and harder hitting attacks. They were also plagued, molten and self healing. So they would have a trail of fire, stand in a pool of poison and slowly regenerate health. Did I mention they were FAST? I cannot even imagine what Inferno level is like because this is only Chapter 1 of Hell. It was the most frustrating 45 minutes, before we decided to move onto another area of the map board.
Some of those Blue groups have crazy extra abilities. Don't forget those damnable Invincibility shields they like to keep up lots too!
Thanks for the Friend addy Bison! Someday I'll figure out which class I want to carry past Nightmare first, and join the big boys. ;D
http://us.battle.net/d3/en/blog/6018173/Game_Design_Update-5_28_2012#blog (http://us.battle.net/d3/en/blog/6018173/Game_Design_Update-5_28_2012#blog)
Blizzard posted a small preview of changes that will be occurring in upcoming patches.
As I said in another thread, after getting my barbarian to hell, I've come to the conclusion that the game is currently broken for melee. From what I've read, barbs can't survive unless they go sword and board on hell mode. And in inferno they can't survive at all if they run into a blue/yellow mob. Think I'll switch back to my demon hunter for the time being. Its really a shame, I find using a 2H to smash undead/demons a lot more satisfying then shooting them with the DH. Don't get me wrong, I like the fact that the game gets really hard, but impossible to do is another thing all together.
Blizzard hates 2-handers, too. :-\
QuoteInferno is intended to be extremely difficult, but with some specific skills, a few classes were simply able to progress far more easily than intended. This made the classes, which were about where they were supposed to be, seem very underpowered. It also created the perception that the classes doing well were intended to rely on specific runes in all their builds, and the other classes were just broken. This is the opposite of what's true. If any single skill or rune feels absolutely required to progress, it means that skill is working against our goal of encouraging build diversity -- and those "required" skills need to be corrected.
Translation: More nerfs.
They should really looks at boosting some of the extremely crappy runes & skills. There are a number of them that are just inefficient and worthless compared to the rest.
While the notes go on to say that Inferno has too many damage 'spikes' that need to be addressed, they mostly blame players' lack of good enough equipment going into it. This may be true, but it can only get worse if they continue to nerf skills. This is the typical Blizzard I remember from playing WoW years ago - nerf the strongest, let the weakest languish. ::)
The gear part made me laugh. For example (this is still only Hell level but proves the point): I pull 4 yellows across about 6 boards in total. Not a single one is a match for my class and even if they were they were 10 to 35 levels below my current level. That is an issue.
Indeed.
I suspect that they intentionally make the item drops 10-15 levels below your own, so that you're forced to use the AH when you eventually get desperate to fill lacking slots. It's much worse than most MMOs so it had to have been intentional. I still think they've shifted the loot drop situation to favor the AH more, in all ways, so that they can pull more into the RMAH if they ever get it fixed up.
Yeah maybe certainly folks are holding back the more uber gear for real $. Your difficulty level and group size really factor into the loot drops too. It's harder to pull good loot solo then in a group. I really think it's a forcing function to group. The problem is that two strangers aren't going to share drops. Now my buddies that I play with we share loot all the time. Hey look my Demon Hunter pulled yet another Barb piece. :( You need? :D
That was my issue on my DH all through nightmare. All the yellow's I was seeing were 10-15 levels below me. I was having a ton of issues dying and killing things compared to a friend of mine who was playing a wizard. I ended up breaking down and using the AH. Even Act 1 of hell mode saw very little useful drops. The drops were either stated wrong, at that level you can't gte away with having anything other then Dex and Vit on everything, or they were below the level hell should be droppping.
If anything class related needs to be nerfed its the death star wizards. I've seen wizards using the archon ability tear through mobs that require me to kite for a few minutes on my DH, or outright kill my barbarian by knocking me back and forth for 20 minutes.
In Blizzards defense they did say before release that in order to do inferno players would need to grind hell for awhile in order to get gear. Given the fact that the game has been out for only 2 weeks I don't think most of the players complaining on the forums are even geared for it yet. That being said, Blizzard needs to fix what level items are dropping from nightmare and hell difficulties. The AH also isn't nearly as bad as it was on release. I've seen items come down to alot more reasonable prices, and getting more gold from nightmare and hell helps alot too.
That is exactly what I'm thinking on the complaints too. People are trying to jump ahead without the gear first. And you are right there are many factors, like complete randomization, but Hell becomes a hell of a gear grind by design.
Sweet! I just got this update now. Need to review.
Diablo III Patch 1.0.2 - v.1.0.2.9749
Classes
Monk
Active Skills
Serenity
Skill Rune - Tranquility
Duration of immunity granted to nearby allies from crowd control effects reduced from 2 seconds to 1 second
Bug Fixes
For a full list of documented game and service bugs, please review the Known Issues sticky located in the Bug Report forum.
General
Players should no longer receive an "Error 14009" when logging in
The "Select a Hero" menu will now also display the difficulty level for each character
Several speed improvements have been made to the streaming downloader
Achievements
All players in a party should now receive "Till Death Do Us Part" even if they don't have Haedrig Eamon as their active follower
Acts
Act IV
Witch Doctors should no longer receive an error if they kill a Shadow Clone with a Damage-Over-Time (DoT) skill after it's launched a Firebomb but before it's reached its target
Auction House
The auction log in the Completed tab will now display a player's activity (bids, buyouts, sales, etc) in the proper order
When placing a new bid over a previous bid on the same auction, players will now be provided with the correct warning message: "Raising your maximum bid on an Auction you are already winning raises your current bid to just above your previous maximum bid. Are you sure you want to continue?"
Players will now receive an error message if they attempt to purchase an item after the 50 item limit has been reached in the Completed tab
The "Physical Damage" Preferred Stats option for rings has been renamed to "Bonus Minimum Physical Damage"
The "All Damage" Preferred Stats option for weapons and armor has been removed and replaced with bonuses of specific damage types
Items which have been purchased from a vendor and equipped by the player can now be sold on the Auction House
Listing items on the Auction House from a different character than the one currently selected should no longer cause item display issues
Battle.net
The public chat list will now sort alphabetically
Classes
Witch Doctor
Spirit Vessel (Passive) no longer clears debuffs when using waypoints or changing equipment
Quote from: Bison on May 29, 2012, 02:08:33 PM
Sweet! I just got this update now. Need to review.
Diablo III Patch 1.0.2 - v.1.0.2.9749
Classes
Monk
Active Skills
Serenity
Skill Rune - Tranquility
Duration of immunity granted to nearby allies from crowd control effects reduced from 2 seconds to 1 second
WTF!?!?!?!? 1 gawd blessed freaking second! Give me a break!
I'm more worried about whats going to happen to balancing when PvP is introduced. Given whats happened to balancing since the introduction of Arenas into WoW, I'm a bit skeptical.
I honestly don't really get the point of PvP in D3 beyond an ego stroke. There aren't different realms like WoW. Frankly what pisses me off is that right now any decisions being made because of Inferno performance is being driven by farmers not the main stay of dedicated but casual gamers. Like the Monk nerf. Seriously? The skill might maybe extend my life and another melee for 2 seconds before we die in a pool of poison. Now 1 sec? good grief. Someone figured out a way to use it to farm something because it isn't about survivability of the normal players character even at Hell level and occassionally Nightmare.
Blizzard's quickly become an F at the server maintenance station. Another server maintenance day that requires hours worth of post maintenance maintenance to fix whatever they broke while fixing the previous broken stuff.
Quote from: Bison on May 29, 2012, 02:30:46 PM
I honestly don't really get the point of PvP in D3 beyond an ego stroke. There aren't different realms like WoW. Frankly what pisses me off is that right now any decisions being made because of Inferno performance is being driven by farmers not the main stay of dedicated but casual gamers. Like the Monk nerf. Seriously? The skill might maybe extend my life and another melee for 2 seconds before we die in a pool of poison. Now 1 sec? good grief. Someone figured out a way to use it to farm something because it isn't about survivability of the normal players character even at Hell level and occassionally Nightmare.
Same reason I was bitching about the previous skill nerfs. One second long escape skills are crap. Hell, the 2 second long ones were pretty quick.
Bliz nerfs always pissed me off. I recall some of those being the last time I rage quit WoW years ago. Expect plenty more in future updates. ::)
I was unable to log in for a minute or two tonight. After that had a pretty good 90 minutes with it.
Quote from: Bison on May 29, 2012, 05:23:50 PM
Blizzard's quickly become an F at the server maintenance station. Another server maintenance day that requires hours worth of post maintenance maintenance to fix whatever they broke while fixing the previous broken stuff.
You know Blizzard normally does server maintenance for all their games on Tuesdays? Servers will be offline for most of the morning and maybe early afternoon depending.
I've learned to deal with skills nerfs. Maybe its from playing WoW on and off for the last 6 years. In my experience Blizzard always seems to nerf the class I'm currently playing. I'm sure everyone has that feeling though.
Quote from: Kushan on May 30, 2012, 08:45:09 AM
You know Blizzard normally does server maintenance for all their games on Tuesdays? Servers will be offline for most of the morning and maybe early afternoon depending.
I understand that. However they brought the servers up and you couldn't log in because you were stuck on the retrieving character status. They then brought down the servers again for another 3 hours or so. And now there are issues with joining groups. I understand that servers come done for maintenance, but they really have had issues after they do the fix. I also don't understand the during the day as opposed to during the middle of the night maintenance schedule.
Finally got through Chapter 1 on Hell difficulty last night. The Butcher was a TOUGH fight. I had to farm for gear, but once I started to put some nice pieces together it got easier...slightly.
Ironically I am fighting The Butcher right now. And the most awesome part? Just as I am about to take him down I lose connectivity to Battle.net. I may put D3 aside for a while.
Quote from: Gusington on May 31, 2012, 08:54:20 PM
Ironically I am fighting The Butcher right now. And the most awesome part? Just as I am about to take him down I lose connectivity to Battle.net. I may put D3 aside for a while.
That sucks dude.
^That's what I screamed, with a few more 'f this' and 'f that' thrown in. It is the first time I have been disconnected like that. Bastards. And now all my phat lootz has taken repeated damage. I am thinking of buying some more phat lootz, getting a NPC partner or two to come with, and gutting The Butcher like a stuck pig.
Won't have a chance to put this Grand Plan into action until tomorrow night, however :(
Ok, I dont play these types of games as I find them repetetive...but for the sake of my own curiousity....what is "farming"???
^Hording the phat lootz for profit, either in game or real coin.
Farming is killing stuff looking for loot.
Gus what level are you now? I have some old lootz that might work for you.
I am at a measley Level 15, I think. Maybe 16. I am starting to obsess about The Butcher, that ph*cker.
You at work?
Physically yes.
Quote from: Gusington on June 01, 2012, 09:32:54 AM
I am thinking of buying some more phat lootz, getting a NPC partner or two to come with, and gutting The Butcher like a stuck pig.
Your not already using a NPC parter when playing single player?
Quote from: Kushan on June 01, 2012, 02:51:48 PM
Quote from: Gusington on June 01, 2012, 09:32:54 AM
I am thinking of buying some more phat lootz, getting a NPC partner or two to come with, and gutting The Butcher like a stuck pig.
Your not already using a NPC parter when playing single player?
Oddly enough I almost never think of bringing one of the NPCs with me. Frankly they don't bring much to the table.
I bring one mostly for one of their buffs.
I just wish the Templar would STFU most of the time, however. Even though he can emergency heal you, so he's a universally fine choice. Annoying bastid.
The Rogue has a skill that will give you a crit bonus when you take him. I also don't mind his multi-shot cone fire skill for the crossbow.. he tends to draw some of the hordes away when there are lots, briefly.
The Enchantress has one that gives you extra 'Resource' regeneration, so better Mana/whatever regen. Probably a slightly helpful pick for the Monk and perhaps casters who have to wait on mana regen sometimes. Also some enemy debuffs I think.
Their DPS is crap, sure, but they do have a little bit of utility in buffs and debuffs I guess.
I said the same thing about the Templar - I want to punch him in the face 90% of the time.
I pretty much only use the Enchantress. No reason, other than she is a girl and less annoying than the rest.
"Oh I was just thinking of something they said about you! HEHEHEHEHE!" I want to slay her with the spawn of hell.
Quote from: Bison on June 01, 2012, 11:21:32 PM
"Oh I was just thinking of something they said about you! HEHEHEHEHE!" I want to slay her with the spawn of hell.
I never tried the Scoundrel. But I suspect he is even worse.
I find the Scoundrel's banter the least annoying. I mean.. he jokes about womanizing & looting. So it's somewhat amusing the first fitty times.
I have access to the Templar and the Scoundrel. I keep them back in New Tristram. Will they help me against The Butcher?
Quote from: Bison on June 01, 2012, 11:21:32 PM
"Oh I was just thinking of something they said about you! HEHEHEHEHE!" I want to slay her with the spawn of hell.
Worst line of dialogue EVER. I haven't gone near her since I first heard that. I wish there was an option to sell her to slavers.
Quote from: Gusington on June 02, 2012, 02:54:21 PM
I have access to the Templar and the Scoundrel. I keep them back in New Tristram. Will they help me against The Butcher?
Your pals seem to disappear during Boss fights. ;) So no.
The templar is relatively useful to me since he melee's pretty well. I have not used the scoundrel. And the enchantress is kinda useless but is hawt, so...I'll keep her around.
I gave the Enchantress the "Hex Enemies" spell, and she now occasionally spits out an AOE that turns enemies into chickens. :-*
Think I also use the buff that blocks some incoming enemy "missiles". Dunno how often or long that runs but she regularly buffs me with it.
^I like the sound of that.
Quote from: Nefaro on June 04, 2012, 10:17:14 AM
Dunno how often or long that runs but she regularly buffs me with it.
Quote from: Gusington on June 04, 2012, 10:45:55 AM
^I like the sound of that.
Just remember to use it in moderation to reduce the chance of localized irritation ... and, if it's the corded version, NEVER take it in the tub with you.
Too late about the irritation part.
Quote from: Gusington on June 04, 2012, 09:41:21 AM
The templar is relatively useful to me since he melee's pretty well. I have not used the scoundrel. And the enchantress is kinda useless but is hawt, so...I'll keep her around.
Templar ends up adding some skills you can use for healing and for stunning bad guys, so I've generally stuck with him.
Quote from: Arctic Blast on June 04, 2012, 02:48:57 PM
Quote from: Gusington on June 04, 2012, 09:41:21 AM
The templar is relatively useful to me since he melee's pretty well. I have not used the scoundrel. And the enchantress is kinda useless but is hawt, so...I'll keep her around.
Templar ends up adding some skills you can use for healing and for stunning bad guys, so I've generally stuck with him.
Sounds like they were swinging for the fences with that NPC. But I seriously doubt Minsc and Boo will ever be eclipsed.
Think I'm going the shelve D3 for a month or two. Played for a few house on Sunday. The constant dying makes me feel like I'm running into a brick wall. I've found hell mode really rewarding when you have a full party. With anything less then a full party, which seems t be what the majority of the games I've played, then there just isn't enough damage being done by 2 players to take down rares and uniques.
I don't want to see a huge nerf to the higher difficulties, just a limit on what combinations can happen based on how many players. For example no shield+invulnerable+fast+molten/mortar/plague when only two people are in a game. Maybe see more groups that do elemental damage instead.
My play time has slowed down, too.
Been back to more indie stuff lately.
Me too. Going back to Napoleon Total War for a little bit.
Quick question -- would you keep playing Diablo III if you could do it while wearing these?
http://www.thinkgeek.com/tshirts-apparel/accessories/ee44/?pfm=rightcolumn_NewStuffFTW_1
^No. And if I could get The Wife to wear them, I would probably stop gaming for a few minutes.
^I dunno, Gus. Those socks would go real well with a blue helmet. . .
Blue helmet? What blue helmet?
Goooooood Morning Mistress of Paiiiiiiin!
(Well, duh. Robin Williams' nickname was Blue Helmet until Howie stole his whole inflate-a-condom-on-your-head routine. Howie got away with with because he didn't use a blue condom.)
^Tell me the secret of your sig.
The secret of my sig line is unfortunately no secret. I'd love to have a story about good/bad loofas, but since Lofa Tatupu was cut from the Seahawks, I am truly limited.
The real story? I amuse myself:
I needed an unusual job for a slacker character (novel, not game). I came up with a dude who was trying to sell ad jingles to corporations and nations. Since he had no musical, scoring, or lyrical abilities, he "borrowed" material and "re-worked" it.
"I need a loofa that won't drive me crazy," was his JC Mellencamp-inspired pitch to Acme Bath Products.
He also tried to sell a version of Annie's "Tomorrow," to the Botswana Ministry of Tourism, where "Tomorrow" was replaced with "Botswana."
Ex:
"The sun'll come out, Botswana!"
"Bet your bottom dollar that Botswana, there'll be sun."
and of course, "Botswana, Botswana, I love you Botswana. You're only a day away!"
^You are one sick mofo.
Blizzard did a Q&A on reddit last night.
http://www.reddit.com/r/Diablo/comments/uoooj/i_am_we_are_wyatt_cheng_andrew_chambers_and_jay/ (http://www.reddit.com/r/Diablo/comments/uoooj/i_am_we_are_wyatt_cheng_andrew_chambers_and_jay/)
They didn't answer the monk and shield question. A major annoyance of mine. Hey I'm a freaking kung fu expert, but sorry I cannot use my diabo or kung fu that involves two fists because I need to carry this extra large heavy shield to live.
I didn't seed anything concerning barbarians and shields either, but I read a blue post the other day stating that if players were being forced to gear and spec a certan way then that would warrant some sort of fix. They also said that inferno is balanced on where they think dps and damage will be in a few months time. I take that as meaning maybe 2 handers and duel wielding ma not be broken, but need higher level gear to compensate for the lose of the shield. Still it doesnt go with what they previously said about forcng players to gear certain way. I wasn't aware the inferno didn't do any gear lower then level 50 until I read that.
I am now at the close of Chapter 2 and trying to defeat Belial in his real form. I am only on Normal difficulty but after battling for about two hours to get to this point I am a little exhausted to try and take on Belial. So, during my break want to ask you all...how hard was it for you to defeat Belial once he has 'revealed'? It looks impossible! I am playing as demon hunter, btw.
Quote from: Gusington on August 28, 2012, 12:51:43 PM
I am now at the close of Chapter 2 and trying to defeat Belial in his real form. I am only on Normal difficulty but after battling for about two hours to get to this point I am a little exhausted to try and take on Belial. So, during my break want to ask you all...how hard was it for you to defeat Belial once he has 'revealed'? It looks impossible! I am playing as demon hunter, btw.
The key is the keep moving when he summons the meteors, they explode and will one shot you. Dont worry about doing damage during that phase, just keep moving. As demon hunter you don't have to worry to much about his melee abilities.
Thanks man. That was basically the same strategy I used to defeat Zoltun Kulle. But Belial has like 24k hit points...:(
Quote from: Kushan on August 28, 2012, 01:48:27 PM
Quote from: Gusington on August 28, 2012, 12:51:43 PM
I am now at the close of Chapter 2 and trying to defeat Belial in his real form. I am only on Normal difficulty but after battling for about two hours to get to this point I am a little exhausted to try and take on Belial. So, during my break want to ask you all...how hard was it for you to defeat Belial once he has 'revealed'? It looks impossible! I am playing as demon hunter, btw.
The key is the keep moving when he summons the meteors, they explode and will one shot you. Dont worry about doing damage during that phase, just keep moving. As demon hunter you don't have to worry to much about his melee abilities.
I think it was at this stage I quit playing the game. Just too much work.
No problem. I'm always willing to help. Its a challenging fight even on normal. You're probably going to die a few times until you get the hang of it. IMO Its one of the few fights where you actually feel triumphant when you beat him. I cheered out load when I beat him the first time.
I'd also look at weapon lvl if you are using a weapon not near or at lvl upgrade. It makes a huge difference also rings of damage help a lot.
Quote from: Gusington on August 28, 2012, 12:51:43 PM
I am now at the close of Chapter 2 and trying to defeat Belial in his real form. I am only on Normal difficulty but after battling for about two hours to get to this point I am a little exhausted to try and take on Belial. So, during my break want to ask you all...how hard was it for you to defeat Belial once he has 'revealed'? It looks impossible! I am playing as demon hunter, btw.
I often stayed close to him, near one side of the semi-circle. When the meteors come, these spots generally only receive one meteor hit that I have to move out of the way, then when it's gone can get back up against the inside 'rail' and keep shooting in between.
If you're out in most of the middle area of that semi-circle, it just gets hammered a lot in that phase so you'll be dodging mostly. I felt that I could get some free time to do some more damage near the ends.
Here's where I hang out most of the time, with an occasional dodge. Marked in red.
(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi46.tinypic.com%2F34ya4qt.jpg&hash=88ae75bfa0594be46bb4edffb3fda08b740ab2fc)
Credit to this page, where I lifted the original Belial fight pic above: http://liquids.blogg.se/category/diablo-3.html
Thanks guys. The pic does help out. I may dedicate my whole evening to beating this bastard.
Bison: I have a vampiric crossbow that I am using. It's level 30.
LB: gave up?? Say it aint so...
If I can't beat him tonight I am tempted to move on to The Witcher 2, admittedly.
Quote from: Gusington on August 28, 2012, 02:31:29 PM
LB: gave up?? Say it aint so...
Life is too short. I have too many other games that don't feel so much like work.
Thus my threat to move on to Witcher 2, if my OCD isn't overwhelming.
I think Belial's sheer size when you initially see him is what panics most.
Quote from: Gusington on August 28, 2012, 02:43:45 PM
Thus my threat to move on to Witcher 2, if my OCD isn't overwhelming.
I think Belial's sheer size when you initially see him is what panics most.
For me it was boredom in being unable to beat him. After a dozen (or two) times I just didn't care any more.
I had pretty much forgotten why I gave up DIII with you guys chatting about it. But now I remember ;)
Just remember that it's not a race.
You don't have to be shooting these bosses the whole time, so take your time when you need to weave & bob instead of shooting at them - just keep yourself alive and do damage when you can.
I found the Witch Hunter to be a bit more difficult in some boss fights, my first run through, just because they don't have much in the Invincibility-type abilities so I died more, and had to do a lot more dodging and drinking heal pots. You're playing with the most difficult class for these boss fights, IMO, so you got a challenge in the WH. ;)
I'm playing as a Demon Hunter but I am going to guess what you said still holds, and also because it makes me feel better :)
If there wasn't that damned delay in how often I can drink down some healing, this wouldn't be as difficult.
Quote from: Gusington on August 28, 2012, 03:10:01 PM
I'm playing as a Demon Hunter but I am going to guess what you said still holds, and also because it makes me feel better :)
If there wasn't that damned delay in how often I can drink down some healing, this wouldn't be as difficult.
Hahahee! Demon Hunter.. yeah. Too many RPGs on the brain. :P
Don't get distracted.. just watch the meteor indicators in your little area and move to an open spot when an indicator pops up under you. It can be easy to be distracted with all the stuff blowing up on screen and Belial doing all kinds of flashy crap. Just concentrate on your own area, and find an unmarked spot when a fireball is about to be dumped on your head & move to it.
Also.. can you do boss battles multiplayer?
I just thought of that while being slaughtered again. If anyone feels like helping a brother out, come on in. I have the Templar NPC with me now and helped out well against most other enemies but Belial...eek.
I tried to move into those red zones you pointed out but Belial kept clubbing me to death with those giant er, things of his...talons?
I also HATE that I have to replay the entire sequence each time. Makes it that much more frustrating.
I have just been watching my missus play - she has a level 42 wizard. Not sure quite how far into the game itself she is though.
Bob ask her how she got past Belial! I will owe you one. He keeps kicking my ass.
Gus if you need help I could bring my barb or Demon hunter
Yes I think I do need some help. How do you want to arrange this?
Thanatos#1102 is my BattleTag. Go ahead and toss me a friend invite.
Spam your turret drop ability, too. As soon as one goes, drop a new one. that way, even if you're busy running from fireballs, it's still shooting him.
I also really reefed on power shot against Belial. Throw some big hits in there when you get a reprieve from running around.
Oh yeah, and run around. A LOT. Don't stand there and trade shots with him, because you can't and have any chance of survival. Bob and weave. Hit and run.
^Trying...and failing. Well now I can't get the game to launch. When I do, I will friend you Kushan.
Quote from: Gusington on August 28, 2012, 03:53:01 PM
I just thought of that while being slaughtered again. If anyone feels like helping a brother out, come on in. I have the Templar NPC with me now and helped out well against most other enemies but Belial...eek.
I tried to move into those red zones you pointed out but Belial kept clubbing me to death with those giant er, things of his...talons?
I also HATE that I have to replay the entire sequence each time. Makes it that much more frustrating.
I'm pretty sure he clubs you anywhere you are. But note that I generally stick near those locations during the Meteor-from-the-sky stage since they seem to have less frequent meteors. You still gotta be ready to be mobile.
Friend me: Nefaro #1456
I'll come help kick his ass if you see me on.
Thanks...I will. The game would not let me log on last night. I blame Belial for that too. Will try again tonight.
Not sure how any level differences work out in multiplayer games.
In other words, I'm not sure if higher-level characters on later difficulty levels can join up in multi and help fight an earlier boss. It may up the difficulty to the highest one among the players..??
Either way, I'll start levelling up my Barb some more who's the only one I have left in the first difficulty level. :D
Quote from: Nefaro on August 29, 2012, 11:06:45 AM
Not sure how any level differences work out in multiplayer games.
In other words, I'm not sure if higher-level characters on later difficulty levels can join up in multi and help fight an earlier boss. It may up the difficulty to the highest one among the players..??
Either way, I'll start levelling up my Barb some more who's the only one I have left in the first difficulty level. :D
Your character has to be able to start from that level. I don't remember the lvl difference exactly.
Quote from: Gusington on August 28, 2012, 05:11:00 PM
Bob ask her how she got past Belial! I will owe you one. He keeps kicking my ass.
Gus,
She said they went in mob-handed, as there are a few of them from her WoW guild that play, so it must have been a team effort. Mind you, she did have an evil grin on her face when she said that she can't remember the specific tactics used, as she is 'a long way past Belial'......sorry mate.
The old wife sounds saucy Bob. Good for you!
Teams sounds like the way to go...if I can get the damned thing to load.
^Aye, a man could do worse.
But it does seem that a team effort is the way. She admits that she could not crack that as a solo effort, so you'll need to get a squad together.....Oh, she want's to know if you need any female assistance! oo la la!
At this point I welcome it. My tentative squad so far is Mrs. Bob, Kushan and Nefaro. I have no clue where the three of you are located, so please let me know and we can plan a time from there.
Quote from: Gusington on August 29, 2012, 08:33:25 PM
At this point I welcome it. My tentative squad so far is Mrs. Bob, Kushan and Nefaro. I have no clue where the three of you are located, so please let me know and we can plan a time from there.
I'll jump in tonight for awhile, though I think my lil guy on that diff level is probably a few levels behind you. ???
You
did send me a friend request, right? ;)
^No not yet, I haven't had the chance to game at all tonight. I should have time tomorrow and perhaps I can rally a squad at some point over the long weekend.
Quote from: Gusington on August 29, 2012, 09:30:51 PM
^No not yet, I haven't had the chance to game at all tonight. I should have time tomorrow and perhaps I can rally a squad at some point over the long weekend.
Okay, well.. I'll get another level or two on Punchy The Barbarian tonight then.
Quote from: Gusington on August 29, 2012, 08:33:25 PM
At this point I welcome it. My tentative squad so far is Mrs. Bob, Kushan and Nefaro. I have no clue where the three of you are located, so please let me know and we can plan a time from there.
I'm on the west coast. I'm usually on around 5-6pm PST. During the weekend I can be on anytime.
Ugh. Lovely single-player levelling with the nearly invincible Barbarian tonight (did they buff the Barb in some patches or what?! Wow.) And then ..
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BOO!
(my ISP evidentally took that moment to do some little update thing for a few minutes.
Anyway.. I'm on Central time but only play intermittently at a later time .. like somewhere between 9pm to 1am cst.
Thanks guys. I typically play between 9 and 11 pm EST. I will friend you tonight.
That kinds reads weird.
And Mrs.Bob is here, sat next to me at her PC :-)
Location? Geordie land!
^You talk funny so it must be England or Wales...;)
^Yeah, what's that funny line I like from Thunder Run - 'We couldn't understand the pilot (of the GS Tornado) because he spoke British English'.......lol
And you type things like 'What the smeg....?'
Oh yes, big smegging day soon - a new series of 'Red Dwarf' - 4th October.....
'Smoke me a kipper, I'll be back for breakfast'
Um, you have seen Red Dwarf I take it?
^No but I've been called one.
That's close enough, I guess.
I think so.
Quote from: Gusington on August 30, 2012, 04:54:08 PM
^No but I've been called one.
I always thought he went by The Bald Dwarf.
Shows what I know.
Bald doesn't preclude red.
Quote from: bob48 on August 30, 2012, 04:52:56 PM
Um, you have seen Red Dwarf I take it?
Quote from: Gusington on August 30, 2012, 04:54:08 PM
^No but I've been called one.
Quote from: LongBlade on August 30, 2012, 06:02:26 PM
I always thought he went by The Bald Dwarf.
Shows what I know.
So you didn't know about his Bolshie days back in University? 'Twas when he ran afoul of the
'You Must Be This Tall To Ride The Peoples' Rollercoaster' sign that he decided on a different path...
^That's about it in a nutshell.
Well I haven't been able to get the game to load for 3 days. I guess my career is stopped dead in the water by tech difficulties and Belial. Bastards.
Quote from: Staggerwing on August 30, 2012, 06:21:08 PM
So you didn't know about his Bolshie days back in University?
I know all about being a leftie in college. But the Chrome Dome rules all. Even bad judgment in college. Including that chick who was studying psychology.
Quote from: Gusington on August 31, 2012, 11:05:34 PM
Well I haven't been able to get the game to load for 3 days. I guess my career is stopped dead in the water by tech difficulties and Belial. Bastards.
Evidentally your internet is working, so you've not been cut off in that sense.
Did Belial really smack you
that hard? :P
Quote from: Nefaro on August 31, 2012, 11:20:34 PM
Quote from: Gusington on August 31, 2012, 11:05:34 PM
Well I haven't been able to get the game to load for 3 days. I guess my career is stopped dead in the water by tech difficulties and Belial. Bastards.
Evidentally your internet is working, so you've not been cut off in that sense.
Did Belial really smack you that hard? :P
He's a lover, not a fighter.
Quote from: LongBlade on August 31, 2012, 11:25:19 PM
He's a lover, not a fighter.
;D
I figured maybe it was such a beating that it even destroyed his installation.
LOL!
:P
Quote from: Gusington on August 31, 2012, 11:05:34 PM
Well I haven't been able to get the game to load for 3 days. I guess my career is stopped dead in the water by tech difficulties and Belial. Bastards.
If it makes you feel any better, the group I was in took down Belial (inferno) on the first attempt yesterday. 8)
I've been playing it on and off for the last few weeks. The game has so much potential, but I cannot get over the fact that Blizzard dorked up the randomization. I feel like I'm playing the exact same dungeon layouts on my second character as I did my first.
Quote from: Bison on September 01, 2012, 04:40:48 AM
I've been playing it on and off for the last few weeks. The game has so much potential, but I cannot get over the fact that Blizzard dorked up the randomization. I feel like I'm playing the exact same dungeon layouts on my second character as I did my first.
It's because you ARE playing the same dungeon layouts.
The randomization is barely there as the dungeon section 'tiles' are massive. I get the feeling there's only two or three tiles pieced together on each level so most passages are the same.
I still think the worst thing about the game is the shortage of campaign content. I finished my first run in something like 18 hours, my second in 15. That's terrible, especially for $60. It's quite obvious the rumors about them scrapping the whole thing, and starting anew a few times, is true.. and they never finished the content IMO - just touching it up & kicking it out the door for an overly premium price.
When I try to fire up the game it "checks for updates" and then gives me an error message and has done this every time since Tuesday. Maybe I do suck bad enough and the game has registered this and won't let me in again :/
Quote from: Gusington on September 01, 2012, 08:15:14 AM
When I try to fire up the game it "checks for updates" and then gives me an error message and has done this every time since Tuesday. Maybe I do suck bad enough and the game has registered this and won't let me in again :/
What error message are you getting?
I'd give Nefaro's left nut for a completely randomized dungeon delve like Diablo 1. Who f'n cares about the story by the 3d time through? All you want is to kill crap, get loot and experience a new dungeon layout.
Quote from: Bison on September 01, 2012, 10:52:32 AM
I'd give Nefaro's left nut for a completely randomized dungeon delve like Diablo 1. Who f'n cares about the story by the 3d time through? All you want is to kill crap, get loot and experience a new dungeon layout.
Mrs Bob said much the same, although not quite in the same succinct way as you did Bison :)
ummmm....so...like...is Diablo 3 worth it?
For WoW players with a yearly subscription it was, since they had the game as a free download. I doubt very much if my missus would have bothered otherwise.
JH. If you like Diablo lore and gameplay, yes if you play in moderation. I just don't see how it can hold anyones attention beyond the first play through storywise. Its a fun game with great mechanics and character building is slowing evolving into a fun aspect, but the dungeons layout is a huge negative IMO.
Quote from: bob48 on September 01, 2012, 11:39:48 AM
Quote from: Bison on September 01, 2012, 10:52:32 AM
I'd give Nefaro's left nut for a completely randomized dungeon delve like Diablo 1. Who f'n cares about the story by the 3d time through? All you want is to kill crap, get loot and experience a new dungeon layout.
Mrs Bob said much the same, although not quite in the same succinct way as you did Bison :)
Hey just remember that Nefaro does yet know I've bartered one of his boys for random dungeons.
Quote from: Bison on September 01, 2012, 10:52:32 AM
I'd give Nefaro's left nut for a completely randomized dungeon delve like Diablo 1. Who f'n cares about the story by the 3d time through? All you want is to kill crap, get loot and experience a new dungeon layout.
If they changed the graphics and mood to a darker setting, in Torchlight 2, they'd burn Steams' bandwidth with all the sales.
Likewise, if Din's Curse had better production work done on it for a sequel then it too would roast 'em. IIRC it was another one of those good indie games that Steam turned away, at least originally (is it on there now?). Along with Gettysburg Scrouge of War, the Cryptic Comet stuff, and others I've seen mention they tried and were refused. I'm also looking forward to seeing some better produced Roguelikes that seem to be sprouting up these days, too, since Dredmor was a hit. I'm surprised that the Steamlords actually approved that one. *shrug*
I'd give a hairy boy, and some fingers to scratch it with, if someone made a good-looking and user-friendly Roguelike, which plays as Dungeon Crawl Stone Soup does, with even more mechanics thrown in from other similar ones. Essentially the King of difficult dungeon crawling RPGs, turn-based. 8)
Uhh.. was I ranting again? Hey Gus, I hope you don't have to reinstall Diablo 3. Perhaps you should try the 'Options' menu on the patcher program & turn off 'Peer-to-Peer' for the updater and see if it goes through? I'm kinda looking forward to killing da boss in multiplayer.
Speaking of multiplayer, has anyone played Din's Curse online with others?
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on September 01, 2012, 11:44:59 AM
ummmm....so...like...is Diablo 3 worth it?
Get it after some price drops.
The dark setting is great, as always, but it's pretty short on content so you'll be replaying the same areas (only with tougher opponents) over & over, with little in the way of layout randomization.
I'm curious as to how that other one, releasing on the 5th, will be. Looks like another action RPG but with some story to it.
I agree, get it after the price drops. For 60.00 it is not worth it.
Kushan the error message I am getting is something along the lines that D3 cannot connect to the server and update the game.
The biggest turn off for me so far has been the available classes. None of them excite me. Witch doctor? I don't think so.
Quote from: Gusington on September 01, 2012, 02:28:31 PM
Kushan the error message I am getting is something along the lines that D3 cannot connect to the server and update the game.
First I would try Nefaro's idea of turning off peer-to-peer under options. Also check and see if your AV software has blocked the Blizzard downloader.
If those don't work, go into your main Diablo 3 installation folder and delete the contents in the updates folder. Then go into Data_D3/PC/MPQs/Win and Date_D3/PC/MPQs/Cache/ and delete the MPQ files in those folders. Not sure if any of that will do anything. But if you got a corrupted download for some reason, deleting anything that has updates/patch info in it may clear it up. If none of those work you may just have to reinstall.
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on September 01, 2012, 02:48:15 PM
The biggest turn off for me so far has been the available classes. None of them excite me. Witch doctor? I don't think so.
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Quote from: Kushan on September 01, 2012, 03:05:19 PM
Quote from: Gusington on September 01, 2012, 02:28:31 PM
Kushan the error message I am getting is something along the lines that D3 cannot connect to the server and update the game.
First I would try Nefaro's idea of turning off peer-to-peer under options. Also check and see if your AV software has blocked the Blizzard downloader.
If those don't work, go into your main Diablo 3 installation folder and delete the contents in the updates folder. Then go into Data_D3/PC/MPQs/Win and Date_D3/PC/MPQs/Cache/ and delete the MPQ files in those folders. Not sure if any of that will do anything. But if you got a corrupted download for some reason, deleting anything that has updates/patch info in it may clear it up. If none of those work you may just have to reinstall.
Definitely may need to kill the update cache junk if all else fails, as Kushan said.
I recall when I was first downloading the game - there were multiple issues and I had to go in and manually delete stuff to get it to finally work.. only to have another issue pop up. Made me wanna reach through the internet and slap someone at Blizzard for such a crappy installer & updater. I've had no update problems since then, however, and I probably just jinxed myself for the next one by saying that. :-\
So try random cursing about how sh***y Blizzards support programs are! Worked for me! :P
Edit: One thing to check & see - If Gus is using Norton antivirus. Never fails to jack up
all your stuff! :P
I am using Norton. You are like CyberMatlock.
I will try the above when I am not totally shot. I actually have an extra kid living with me this weekend on top of my own (my two year old nephew) and it has been chaos around here for two days. I finally had a chance to advance past the bugs I reached in The Witcher 2, got past the Prologue and have now entered the first Chapter finally.
So my fury has lessened a bit with the whole Diablo thing.
But I will try the above, hopefully tomorrow when my additional kid goes back to his real parents.
Booo Norton!
That thing regularly manages to attack legitimate programs. My first move, on getting a computer with Norton, would be to uninstall that overzealous hog and put Avast on. :-*
I've not messed with it in years (as I've usually ended up removing the thing, even on customers' PCs) so I dunno how many hoops you'll have to jump through to put the D3 update (and exe too) on it's "Whitelist".
Quote from: Nefaro on September 02, 2012, 03:45:52 AM
Booo Norton!
That thing regularly manages to attack legitimate programs. My first move, on getting a computer with Norton, would be to uninstall that overzealous hog and put Avast on. :-*
I've not messed with it in years (as I've usually ended up removing the thing, even on customers' PCs) so I dunno how many hoops you'll have to jump through to put the D3 update (and exe too) on it's "Whitelist".
Norton isn't the blotted POS is was in the early 2000's. I switched to Norton last year and haven't had any issues with it. I had problems with both Kaspersky and MS Security Essentials tagging the Blizzard downloader as a virus, but Norton works just fine for me.
I use Webroot. Last year it was ranked first in terms of testing by a couple of tech mags.
<does google incantation>
Here's PC Mag's list for this year.
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2372364,00.asp
The current big anti-virus trend is to just block anything & everything that isn't used by a Million people. I imagine part of the reason is so they can get better scores on aforementioned A-V tests. Much of the improvements made in recent years is just cranking up the overzealous heuristics and identification that results in more false positives than ever.
They're all guilty of this tendency, but the extent varies from company to company. I still see ppl complaining about Norton blocking legit programs on a regular basis, in tech support forums, the most of all. Perhaps because it comes pre-installed on so many peoples' computers and thus is used more by default.
Honestly I've had a number of Norton false positives on game .exe's, but the exemption configuration is really easy to do. YMMV but I've never had any issues with Norton and more importantly I've never had a virus or trojan or keylogger, which makes me happy.
I just wanna kill some damned demons.
Quote from: Gusington on September 02, 2012, 02:30:30 PM
I just wanna kill some damned demons.
Ask Bison how to put the Diablo 3 patcher on Norton's white list, perhaps.
Are you running it as Admin? And all that Window-y stuff?
Quote from: Nefaro on September 03, 2012, 10:12:23 PM
Quote from: Gusington on September 02, 2012, 02:30:30 PM
I just wanna kill some damned demons.
Ask Bison how to put the Diablo 3 patcher on Norton's white list, perhaps.
Are you running it as Admin? And all that Window-y stuff?
Can I just say that for an IT guy Gus sure as the hell has a lot of what I would consider IT issues in his home computer life? :o
I'm an aspiring IT guy. I work with computers all day on web apps. And I write stuff. But right now I am not an IT guy.
Quote from: Bison on September 04, 2012, 12:03:01 AM
Can I just say that for an IT guy Gus sure as the hell has a lot of what I would consider IT issues in his home computer life? :o
Heh.
We'll call it Journeyman IT level?
Well I finally got my monk to level 60 and into inferno level. I received through the generousity of a stranger today a nice 1-hand knuckle thingy that does 1000+ base damage. That single piece of gear let me basically grind through the last 2 acts without any issues. Hell difficulty Diablo boss was a wuzz. I think he is the easiest boss in the game, which is sad considering a. she's the last boss and b. the game is named after her after all.
I like the game for what it is an ARPG gear grind feast, but good lord do I wish they had taken a different tact with the games overall randomization. Maybe they'll address it with the an expansion. I doubt it, but I can still hope.
I wish I hadn't spent so much time playing the demo. I lost interest in playing Diablo III months ago.
I'm an ARPG addict so I always go back to them. It's worth a play through if you like the Diablo lore, ARPG gameplay, and don't mind random MP grouping on higher difficulty levels. There are a number of things that piss me off with what Blizzard did with the game, but I doubt they will get addressed and I've come to accept that it's a fun enough game to go back to every few weeks to kill a few hours and slowly level or gear one of my two main characters.
I'm a bit dense so sorry for the stupid question but what is ARPG?
action role playing game
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action_role-playing_game
Quote from: Bison on December 31, 2012, 08:15:25 PM
action role playing game
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Action_role-playing_game
Thanks. I should have known that but, well I don't have an excuse. :o
Speaking of ARPG, Torchlight II is on sale at Steam today. I think it is a lot of fun, much different than D3 (in some ways superior, in others, not so much). It is certainly worth buying at a discounted price.
Major bump.....
I see that you can get Diablo III and Diablo II Resurrected for about $20 in BattleNet sale....I have never played this series but have been tempted a number of times. With other games out there now and the fact Diablo IV is coming out at some point, anybody have an opinion as to whether still worth picking this up?
Major thread bump! I love the Diablo series and if you enjoy mindless killing and looting, you will too.
Quote from: Gusington on December 21, 2022, 09:56:21 AM
Major thread bump! I love the Diablo series and if you enjoy mindless killing and looting, you will too.
I wonder why the Diablo games have never been on Steam?
Quote from: Rayfer on December 21, 2022, 10:38:18 AM
Quote from: Gusington on December 21, 2022, 09:56:21 AM
Major thread bump! I love the Diablo series and if you enjoy mindless killing and looting, you will too.
I wonder why the Diablo games have never been on Steam?
I could be wrong, but believe all Blizzard games aren't on Steam and only use their Battle Net client. As to why, I am sure it has something to do with money:)
^That is correct on all counts.
well, the site won't accept my PayPal account for some reason, not sure if a system error or something specific to me, although have used plenty elsewhere. Looks like this will allow me to save some money and spend elsewhere:)
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on December 21, 2022, 09:52:02 AM
Major bump.....
I see that you can get Diablo III and Diablo II Resurrected for about $20 in BattleNet sale....I have never played this series but have been tempted a number of times. With other games out there now and the fact Diablo IV is coming out at some point, anybody have an opinion as to whether still worth picking this up?
Back in the day I played the crap out of D2. I have many fond memories of leveling my Pally up with one of my RL neighbors who was leveling an Amazon. But eventually other games became more engaging. You can only kill Diablo and his posse so many times before needing a change. I haven't really gone back to the series due to the clickity clickity nature of the game. I've tried out D3 and I had fun with the mindless killing as Gus says but for me there are always other games that hold my attention better. In addition I have several diablo like game that are just as fun like Grim Dawn, Torchlight, Path of Exile and Van Helsing. I never did buy D2 Resurrection just because I figured I played the crap out of it and I wouldn't really play it all that much again. So many games and not enough time :P
^+1 on Grim Dawn and Torchlight, less so for Van Helsing but it is still 'aight.' As the kids say.
I was in a similar spot, reminiscing about the good ol' days of D2 but unsure if D3 was worth the plunge. And hey, I hear you on the clickity-clickity gameplay. It can feel a bit repetitive after a while, especially with so many other engaging titles available. Sometimes a bit of mindless demon-slaying is just what the doctor ordered, right? And with the sale going on, it's a pretty sweet deal. Plus, with Diablo IV on the horizon, it could be a good way to dip your toes back into the franchise and see if it still tickles your fancy.
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Quote from: Taurinoss on March 26, 2024, 05:31:56 AMI was in a similar spot, reminiscing about the good ol' days of D2 but unsure if D3 was worth the plunge. And hey, I hear you on the clickity-clickity gameplay. It can feel a bit repetitive after a while, especially with so many other engaging titles available. Sometimes a bit of mindless demon-slaying is just what the doctor ordered, right? And with the sale going on, it's a pretty sweet deal. Plus, with Diablo IV on the horizon, it could be a good way to dip your toes back into the franchise and see if it still tickles your fancy.
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There's a Diablo IV on the horizon? Please, tell us more about this breaking news! :headscratch:
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