Russia's War Against Ukraine

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Gusington

^Ah that takes me back, maaan...



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JasonPratt

President Z announced that Ukraine will go on the counter-offensive north of Kharkiv today, having shut down the Russian push (such as it was), annnnd... well, the map hasn't moved yet. But Ukraine (for whatever it's worth) says the Russian casualty list has now passed 500K since the war began. Whether this will trigger or catch the main Russian attack off foot, don't know yet.
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Quote from: JasonPratt on May 25, 2024, 11:37:48 PMPresident Z announced that Ukraine will go on the counter-offensive north of Kharkiv today, having shut down the Russian push (such as it was), annnnd... well, the map hasn't moved yet. But Ukraine (for whatever it's worth) says the Russian casualty list has now passed 500K since the war began. Whether this will trigger or catch the main Russian attack off foot, don't know yet.
From:  https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-may-25-2024
QuoteKey Takeaways:

Ukrainian and Russian sources stated that Ukrainian forces are increasingly contesting the tactical initiative in northern Kharkiv Oblast and characterized Russian operations in the area as defensive, although Russian forces are likely attempting to bring the Northern Grouping of Forces up closer to its reported planned end strength before possibly intensifying offensive operations in the area.
The likely premature start of Russian offensive operations appears to have undermined Russian success in northern Kharkiv Oblast.
Russian forces continue to leverage their sanctuary in Russian airspace to strike Kharkiv City to devastating effect, likely as part of efforts to depopulate the city and demoralize Ukrainians.
Russian electronic warfare (EW) capabilities reportedly impacted the effectiveness of select Western weapon systems in Ukraine in 2023 as Ukraine and Russia continue to compete in a technical offense-defense race.

Gusington

500k casualties...once again, 'Jesus Christ, Russia'


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Crossroads

Quote from: Gusington on May 26, 2024, 10:42:02 AM500k casualties...once again, 'Jesus Christ, Russia'

Utter madness. If they keep up with this 1k+ per day rate they have going on at the moment, they will hit a million by the end of next year. Sheesh.
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Quote from: Uberhaus on May 26, 2024, 06:59:53 AMFrom:  https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-may-25-2024
QuoteKey Takeaways:

Ukrainian and Russian sources stated that Ukrainian forces are increasingly contesting the tactical initiative in northern Kharkiv Oblast and characterized Russian operations in the area as defensive, although Russian forces are likely attempting to bring the Northern Grouping of Forces up closer to its reported planned end strength before possibly intensifying offensive operations in the area.
The likely premature start of Russian offensive operations appears to have undermined Russian success in northern Kharkiv Oblast.
Russian forces continue to leverage their sanctuary in Russian airspace to strike Kharkiv City to devastating effect, likely as part of efforts to depopulate the city and demoralize Ukrainians.
Russian electronic warfare (EW) capabilities reportedly impacted the effectiveness of select Western weapon systems in Ukraine in 2023 as Ukraine and Russia continue to compete in a technical offense-defense race.

Yeah, I was watching footage yesterday of artillery striking a 'hypermall' in Kharkiv itself, at the peak customer hour. Truly a "Jesus Christ, Russia" moment.  :nono2:  :angry:

I'm not sure the Russian offensive was premature so much as an opportunistic probing operation attempting to push while there was mush -- which then, when Ukrainian defensive units started holding ground, morphed into a gradual commitment of more Orks figuring that the main push would be a waste and wasn't ready yet anyway but something ought to be done there to keep at grips with the Uks....

...and now the prep and power of a good chunk of the gathering Russian attack has been blunted and wasted. Boiling the frog slowly to get him to jump out of the pot doesn't always work.

Aside from that minor disagreement, which may not even be a disagreement but a difference in phrasing, I'm gratified to see that I reached a similar result as the ISW!  :ThumbsUp:
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JasonPratt

Quote from: Crossroads on May 26, 2024, 02:13:43 PM
Quote from: Gusington on May 26, 2024, 10:42:02 AM500k casualties...once again, 'Jesus Christ, Russia'

Utter madness. If they keep up with this 1k+ per day rate they have going on at the moment, they will hit a million by the end of next year. Sheesh.

I get that they're looking at a demographic dead end in the next ten years, so their only hope is to go now even if it cripples them (further) in their industry and infrastructure.

But I wish they would commit to trying NOT BEING RUSSIA for a while.  :buck2: They have so much wasted potential to be not only good but awesome, even as a distinct nation-state, but their governmental system doesn't even believe in being good (whether morally or otherwise), only in pretending to be good (ditto) as a marketing ploy. So they have persistently ruined whatever good, potentially or actually, there has ever been in being Russia per se. And if they can make their neighbors suffer worse than they inflict upon themselves, then hey proportionately that makes them better, right?
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