AI Bots - Love Them or Hate Them?

[Skoop]

^I've been killed within minutes in Tannenberg with just bots too!

I love the ideas and look of Isonzo but I fear it would be pretty much the same. I'll probably pick it up anyway on discount at some point since I can't resist and have always been fascinated by that WWI front.

The graphic fidelity is definitely better in Izonso.  The gameplay is slightly different, player movement is faster and feels more fluid, on par with most FPS standards.  There's a bit of building stuff like squad / HLL.  Overall it's a nice update to the series, but nothing earth shattering.  Getting it on sale would be the best bet if your going to casual play with bots.

[SlagDog]

http://www.grogheads.com/forums/index.php?topic=26710.0#:~:text=I%20feel%20the%20learning%20curve%20would%20be%20less%20in%20games%20like%20squad%20and%20hell%20let%20loose%20if%20they%20had%20all%20the%20maps%20with%20bots%20so%20players%20could%20practice%20all%20the%20game%20mechanics.

Skoop, the developers of Squad and Hell Let Loose just called . . . they want to offer you a job  ;D.

That's actually a brilliant idea!

[Gusington]

Thanks Skoop - will I get killed just as efficiently in Isonzo?

[Father Ted]

'I like big bots and I cannot lie?'

I'll see myself out.

You started a whole thread just for that pun? Respect!

[Gusington]

 ;D

[Destraex]

I don't have a problem with bots in FPS games per sae.
I think this thread was started with reference to the thread on WAR OR RIGHTS civil war FPS game.

* Morale - Bots generally don't have morale from what I have seen in other games. A good example is Red Orchestra 2's bots.
* Formations - Bots tend to charge you or form in perfect formations? Now this is not something I am entirely sure of. I just seem to remember in mount and blade warband trying the commander mode and noticing very stale looking uninteresting perfectly formed soldiers. Prussians to the man.
* Bots don't talk to you. Part of the interesting thing in War of Rights is the talking and role playing a lot of the guys do. I am betting a lot of them are re-enactors.

Just knowing that all of the people storming over a bridge are thinking that getting across the other side and forming up is a priority. Knowing they are going to be affected when we start losing men. Knowing they will actually consider retreating if they see too many men get cut down. That they will communicate about their experience and learn from it. That's much better than a bot experience in my book.


Even in chat here you can see the guys communicating as they get the range on the enemy.


The line is not perfect. Men are trying to survive as they fire back currently. Bots would just mill around.

[MengJiao]

I like having the option of adding some of them into an MP game to flesh out teams.  Gives cack-handed flailers like me a chance to get a few kills in a round while still keeping things challenging and unpredictable by having some humies on the other team.

  I'd like bots in practice areas in games like HLL.  One of the problems in HLL is the roles are pretty fixed and...well if you are me...you have tended to be a "Squad leader (SL)"
(commanding a large fireteam of six actually) too much of the time and you
are really pretty bad with the non-SL weapons like the bazooka or the BAR or machine guns.  If I could get some practice by shooting some sneaky bots I might get better someday, maybe.

[fran]

When I read AI Bots I was thinking the ones used on websites as customer help.....

[al_infierno]

When I read AI Bots I was thinking the ones used on websites as customer help.....

I would love to shoot them, too. 

[solops]

What are bots? Like having the AI play a nation or something?

[al_infierno]

What are bots? Like having the AI play a nation or something?

It's usually with regards to shooter games, but yes - it means having the AI fill in for other players.

[Gusington]

I wish I could have AI bots fill in for other humans in most aspects of my life.

[Skoop]

You might get what you wish for over the next 10 to 15 years.

[Gusington]

If I decide I miss actual people, can I revert?

[fran]

When I read AI Bots I was thinking the ones used on websites as customer help.....

I would love to shoot them, too. 

Agree!