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Title: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: egg_salad on August 29, 2016, 06:12:14 PM
B&O runs for $30/share and pays dividends..

Note -- had to change /vlog to doc to upload.  Change it back to run it.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: egg_salad on August 29, 2016, 06:49:07 PM
l'amour is up for the Nickelback plate RR.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: rstites25 on August 29, 2016, 07:31:39 PM
Just checking in to say I'm here.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: binkman on August 29, 2016, 08:08:01 PM
Also here. It feels like I'm cheating on thegamebox.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: binkman on August 29, 2016, 08:29:15 PM
Thegamebox is moving? It's going to live?
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: rstites25 on August 29, 2016, 08:57:40 PM
I think they're moving the contents so nothing is lost, but it will probably locked so that nobody can post. I don't think Calandale wants to maintain it if nobody is going to use it, so locking prevents it from being infested by spambots.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: bayonetbrant on August 29, 2016, 10:33:31 PM
Quote from: binkman on August 29, 2016, 08:08:01 PMAlso here. It feels like I'm cheating on thegamebox.

I hate that you feel that way, but I understand why it might be weird for you.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: egg_salad on August 29, 2016, 10:38:43 PM
Aaanndd the gamebox is down.  I hope l'amour got the link.  Of course, I think I know his user id on BGG, we could probably ping him there.

Woodall messaged me his email -- so I gave him the link to here.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: egg_salad on August 29, 2016, 10:41:43 PM
Quote from: binkman on August 29, 2016, 08:29:15 PM
Thegamebox is moving? It's going to live?
Well, I am an internet slut and proud of it.  It's just a collection of electrons, man.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: bayonetbrant on August 29, 2016, 10:45:43 PM
Calendal posted on FB a few minutes ago

QuoteSite's down - too hard to freeze it.
I'll give further notice depending on the install.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: Woodall on August 29, 2016, 11:17:42 PM
I have arrived.  :o Hopefully the text check is temporary, Brant?
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: Woodall on August 29, 2016, 11:19:43 PM
Boy that crazy face is annoying.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: bayonetbrant on August 30, 2016, 05:00:25 AM
Quote from: jwoodall04 on August 29, 2016, 11:17:42 PMHopefully the text check is temporary, Brant?

Si, seƱor, it should be
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: binkman on August 30, 2016, 07:04:58 AM
Quote from: bayonetbrant on August 29, 2016, 10:33:31 PM
Quote from: binkman on August 29, 2016, 08:08:01 PMAlso here. It feels like I'm cheating on thegamebox.

I hate that you feel that way, but I understand why it might be weird for you.

It mostly just feels odd because it looks almost, but not quite, the same. I guess it doesn't really feel immoral.  :P
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: egg_salad on August 30, 2016, 08:19:17 AM
Quote from: egg_salad on August 29, 2016, 06:12:14 PM
B&O runs for $30/share and pays dividends..

Note -- had to change /vlog to doc to upload.  Change it back to run it.

Trying to attach this time as a vlog file..

Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: l'amour on August 30, 2016, 12:31:24 PM
I'm here. I'll get take my turn asap but that might have to be tomorrow.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: egg_salad on August 30, 2016, 01:34:07 PM
Quote from: l'amour on August 30, 2016, 12:31:24 PM
I'm here. I'll get take my turn asap but that might have to be tomorrow.

No worries, glad you made it!
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: binkman on August 30, 2016, 01:37:54 PM
Quote from: l'amour on August 30, 2016, 12:31:24 PM
I'm here. I'll get take my turn asap but that might have to be tomorrow.

I just instinctively went to thumb up this post...
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: bayonetbrant on August 30, 2016, 01:45:06 PM
Quote from: binkman on August 30, 2016, 01:37:54 PM
Quote from: l'amour on August 30, 2016, 12:31:24 PM
I'm here. I'll get take my turn asap but that might have to be tomorrow.

I just instinctively went to thumb up this post...

sorry, we never turned on the thumbs here.  Wasn't something our folks were used to messing with...
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: bob48 on August 30, 2016, 03:39:50 PM
No...we're all fingers and...no thumbs.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: mirth on August 30, 2016, 04:41:05 PM
The thumbs here are questionable at best.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: binkman on August 30, 2016, 06:56:25 PM
It's back.

http://thegamebox.byethost15.com/smf/index.php?topic=4536.0
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: rstites25 on August 31, 2016, 11:52:10 AM
With TGB being back, at least for the time being, are we going to play here or there?

I don't care one way the other, just want to make sure we're all on the same page.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: bayonetbrant on August 31, 2016, 11:59:18 AM
I don't know if it affects the decision-making, but Calandale has a very limited amount of server space of there and it might be an issue if there are too many attachments to the posts.  Not sure what size files y'all are using, but you might want to just check it with him to clarify.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: Woodall on August 31, 2016, 04:47:58 PM
Let's just keep it here.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: egg_salad on August 31, 2016, 04:54:37 PM
Quote from: jwoodall04 on August 31, 2016, 04:47:58 PM
Let's just keep it here.

Sounds good me.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: binkman on August 31, 2016, 06:05:25 PM
Quote from: egg_salad on August 31, 2016, 04:54:37 PM
Quote from: jwoodall04 on August 31, 2016, 04:47:58 PM
Let's just keep it here.

Sounds good me.

Me too.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: rstites25 on August 31, 2016, 07:20:52 PM
I dunno. Mike's already a Velites and we're all still Hoplites...doesn't sound fair...
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: egg_salad on August 31, 2016, 08:05:06 PM
Quote from: rstites25 on August 31, 2016, 07:20:52 PM
I dunno. Mike's already a Velites and we're all still Hoplites...doesn't sound fair...

Come at me bro!
(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg07.deviantart.net%2F4cb0%2Fi%2F2015%2F106%2F7%2Fc%2Fvelites_by_ancientsilentmonk-d7ofg6i.jpg&hash=232eb22ecd9b82ca71e38b6bd451f6ef95120398)
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: bayonetbrant on August 31, 2016, 09:37:17 PM
Quote from: rstites25 on August 31, 2016, 07:20:52 PM
I dunno. Mike's already a Velites and we're all still Hoplites...doesn't sound fair...

POST MORE!  ;)  O0
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: l'amour on September 01, 2016, 03:45:33 AM
Sorry for my terrible response time.

Nickel Plate built to Pittsburgh, then ran to Chicago, Detroit, Cleveland and Pittsburgh for 200 net and paid a dividend.

Binkman's PRR in next.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: binkman on September 01, 2016, 07:18:20 AM
Isn't Wabash next?
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: egg_salad on September 01, 2016, 09:07:31 AM
Quote from: binkman on September 01, 2016, 07:18:20 AM
Isn't Wabash next?

Looks that way to me.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: l'amour on September 01, 2016, 09:32:00 AM
Yup, sorry. I got the flags mixed up. The Pen's never been that valuable.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: Woodall on September 01, 2016, 12:45:50 PM
I'll have my play done this afternoon - no access right now, sorry!
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: Woodall on September 01, 2016, 05:35:17 PM
Here ya go! (strange play there L'amour)
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: Barthheart on September 01, 2016, 05:50:54 PM
Quote from: l'amour on September 01, 2016, 03:45:33 AM
...
Nickel Plate built to Pittsburgh, then ran to Chicago, Detroit, Cleveland and Pittsburgh for 200 net and paid a dividend.
....

Ok, no one else is going to ask so I will... What game are you all playing? ??? I can't tell from this....
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: egg_salad on September 01, 2016, 06:03:05 PM
Quote from: Barthheart on September 01, 2016, 05:50:54 PM
Quote from: l'amour on September 01, 2016, 03:45:33 AM
...
Nickel Plate built to Pittsburgh, then ran to Chicago, Detroit, Cleveland and Pittsburgh for 200 net and paid a dividend.
....

Ok, no one else is going to ask so I will... What game are you all playing? ??? I can't tell from this....

(https://cf.geekdo-images.com/IKoVTZOB0mCC82eRzN1SJcTeYKQ=/fit-in/246x300/pic804080.jpg)

https://boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/43307/baltimore-ohio
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: egg_salad on September 01, 2016, 06:07:39 PM
We are probably 75-90% through the game, which might add to the confusion.

Here is the current board:
(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi.imgur.com%2FNAIBvBC.jpg&hash=0d7a281bb35e3b71a98b067a88278d289da96bcc)
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: Woodall on September 01, 2016, 06:35:28 PM
And in case you can't read those heiroglyphs, Mike is winning.  :P
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: Barthheart on September 01, 2016, 07:11:18 PM
Congrats to Mike.. I guess. :)

Still have no idea what you are playing but now I can look it up.... Is it kind of Ticket to Ride on 'roids...? (ducks)
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: egg_salad on September 01, 2016, 07:24:55 PM
Quote from: jwoodall04 on September 01, 2016, 06:35:28 PM
And in case you can't read those heiroglyphs, Mike is winning.  :P

Actually, I think you are.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: binkman on September 01, 2016, 07:30:38 PM
Quote from: Barthheart on September 01, 2016, 07:11:18 PM
Congrats to Mike.. I guess. :)

Still have no idea what you are playing but now I can look it up.... Is it kind of Ticket to Ride on 'roids...? (ducks)

It's really more of an economic game, the train theme is important, but it's really secondary.

It's an 18XX game with training wheels. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/18XX
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: Barthheart on September 01, 2016, 07:31:27 PM
Quote from: binkman on September 01, 2016, 07:30:38 PM
Quote from: Barthheart on September 01, 2016, 07:11:18 PM
Congrats to Mike.. I guess. :)

Still have no idea what you are playing but now I can look it up.... Is it kind of Ticket to Ride on 'roids...? (ducks)

It's really more of an economic game, the train theme is important, but it's really secondary.

It's an 18XX game with training wheels. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/18XX

Ah.... got it. O0
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: bbmike on September 01, 2016, 07:42:48 PM
Kind of like 1830 Railroads & Robber Barons? Where's Mark Shot?
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: rstites25 on September 01, 2016, 08:03:37 PM
Quote from: bbmike on September 01, 2016, 07:42:48 PM
Kind of like 1830 Railroads & Robber Barons? Where's Mark Shot?

Yes and no. It's actually the same geographic area and has a lot of the same RR companies. In both you're trying to accrue the highest net worth, but the means of doing so are a lot different.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: Woodall on September 01, 2016, 08:30:43 PM
Quote from: egg_salad on September 01, 2016, 07:24:55 PM
Actually, I think you are.

I think I may have ran out of steam. :coolsmiley: 
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: Staggerwing on September 01, 2016, 08:56:08 PM
Quote from: bbmike on September 01, 2016, 07:42:48 PM
Kind of like 1830 Railroads & Robber Barons? Where's Mark Shot?

Mark was, last we talked, living in Taiwan. I hope all is going well for him there.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: rstites25 on September 01, 2016, 10:49:58 PM
Who is up?
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: egg_salad on September 01, 2016, 10:52:14 PM
Quote from: jwoodall04 on September 01, 2016, 08:30:43 PM
Quote from: egg_salad on September 01, 2016, 07:24:55 PM
Actually, I think you are.

I think I may have ran out of steam. :coolsmiley:

ughh.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: egg_salad on September 01, 2016, 10:54:23 PM
Quote from: rstites25 on September 01, 2016, 10:49:58 PM
Who is up?
l'amour is up to make his BM go.  ;)
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: l'amour on September 02, 2016, 04:54:24 AM
Quote from: jwoodall04 on September 01, 2016, 05:35:17 PM
Here ya go! (strange play there L'amour)

Why??!?!?!?!?!
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: l'amour on September 02, 2016, 05:02:09 AM
B&M somehow continues to increase profits, not that it matters in any way.

C&O is next.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: binkman on September 02, 2016, 06:47:22 AM
C&O ran just enough ti bump up its profits, paid out measly dividends to bump up its share price. Time for Mike to run the Illinois central.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: egg_salad on September 02, 2016, 08:33:14 AM
IC(ky) built and ran to Indy, paid out $6 / share. 

PRR/Chris up next.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: binkman on September 02, 2016, 08:47:23 AM
PRR dumped a 2-train, bought the first 5 train, and built into New York City.

Ran:
Chicago $90
Ft. Wayne $40
Detroit $80
Cleveland $60
Wheeling $50
Pittsburgh $70
Harrisburg $20
Philly $50
Baltimore $40
New York $70
Coal $40
Maintenance -$150

Net $460

Dividends of $368 for me, $92 for Rex.

Rex is up next to run the NH and then NYC.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: binkman on September 02, 2016, 09:00:43 AM
Assuming my math is correct, the present net worth scoreboard looks like this:

James $1595
Mike $1545
l'amour $1254
Me $1091
Rex $763
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: l'amour on September 02, 2016, 09:33:11 AM
I think those numbers are still a bit close to be calling out winners, now that serious money is being generated.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: l'amour on September 02, 2016, 09:34:22 AM
Having said that, I am sure I will end up in the bottom 2.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: rstites25 on September 02, 2016, 11:23:22 AM
NH ran the same Boston/NY route and earned $70.

NYC ran:
Chicago (90) +
Detroit (80) +
Pittsburgh (70) +
NY (70) +
Cleveland (60) +
Indy (50) +
Wheeling (50) +
Buffalo (50)
---------------
= $520

less $100 maintenance = $420

It withheld the dividend.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: rstites25 on September 02, 2016, 11:23:41 AM
Mike/B&O up.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: Woodall on September 02, 2016, 11:49:22 AM
Quote from: l'amour on September 02, 2016, 04:54:24 AM

Why??!?!?!?!?!

Oh nevermind, didn't realize you were cube limited.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: egg_salad on September 02, 2016, 01:34:56 PM
B&O bought a 5 train and ran for $420, paying $42/share.

Nickelback Plate / l'amour is up.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: rstites25 on September 02, 2016, 02:05:06 PM
Just FYI, I'm going to be out of town for a couple of days, so I doubt I'll be able to make any plays until Sunday.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: l'amour on September 03, 2016, 07:24:20 AM
NP bought replaced a 4 train with a 5 train, ran for 250 net and paid a dividend. 175 to me, 50 to Woodall, 25 to the company.

Wabash is next.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: Woodall on September 03, 2016, 01:20:24 PM
Actually... changing my turn.

Still ran for 230, just cycled the trains a bit more. B&M is up.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: calandale on September 04, 2016, 12:17:24 AM
Quote from: bayonetbrant on August 31, 2016, 11:59:18 AM
I don't know if it affects the decision-making, but Calandale has a very limited amount of server space of there and it might be an issue if there are too many attachments to the posts.  Not sure what size files y'all are using, but you might want to just check it with him to clarify.

Yeah. I'd have to clear old attachments pretty regularly. I don't mind, but it kinda kills any
ability to go back and look at past games, if anyone really wants to do that. The game log
files can definitely eat a lot of space.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: l'amour on September 04, 2016, 01:40:43 PM
C&O is up.

Bangers somehow manages to continue to raise it's value.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: egg_salad on September 04, 2016, 01:45:29 PM
Quote from: l'amour on September 04, 2016, 01:40:43 PM
C&O is up.

Bangers somehow manages to continue to raise it's value.

Did you forget the vlog file?
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: l'amour on September 04, 2016, 02:01:33 PM
Oh deary me
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: l'amour on September 04, 2016, 02:02:25 PM
I've put the computer away now, I'll put the file up in a bit.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: l'amour on September 04, 2016, 04:43:27 PM
Here we are.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: binkman on September 04, 2016, 08:38:07 PM
C&O maintained the same net income and withheld the $50 net. On to Mike to run the Ic(ky).
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: egg_salad on September 04, 2016, 11:13:11 PM
Icky runs for $170 and pays out.

PRR / Chris up next.

Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: binkman on September 05, 2016, 07:19:58 AM
PRR did the same thing as last run. Time for Rex to run NH and then NYC.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: rstites25 on September 05, 2016, 10:32:37 AM
NH ran and paid out $7 to me. NYC ran at the same $420 and paid out $252 to Woodall and $168 to me. Really should have paid out in Round 1, but I gambled that there would still be a 5-train available when I acted again and lost...

l'amour, with $505 is first to act in the market round.

l'amour:  $505
Rex:  $531
Woodall: $623
Mike: $679
Chris:  $775
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: l'amour on September 05, 2016, 11:09:31 AM
I started the Erie railroad and bought 6 shares. All aboard!
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: Woodall on September 05, 2016, 11:29:14 AM
Rex, the NYC should pay more to you.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: l'amour on September 05, 2016, 11:41:06 AM
He's done it correctly on the log but seems to have got his name mixed up with yours.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: Woodall on September 05, 2016, 12:47:46 PM
Oh okay, also... someone throw the Erie marker on 82. :)
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: rstites25 on September 06, 2016, 08:42:06 PM
Bought 4 shares of the IC.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: egg_salad on September 06, 2016, 09:08:57 PM
Quote from: rstites25 on September 06, 2016, 08:42:06 PM
Bought 4 shares of the IC.
]

Err, only 3 were for sale?
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: rstites25 on September 06, 2016, 09:19:36 PM
I missed that Chris had a share and didn't count when I pulled them out of the stack.  :-[

Corrected the money.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: Woodall on September 06, 2016, 09:32:36 PM
Bought 4 shares of Erie
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: egg_salad on September 06, 2016, 10:28:30 PM
Bought the last Ni plate.  Chris is up.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: binkman on September 06, 2016, 10:45:55 PM
Bought up all but 1 B&O share. Back to l'amour.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: Woodall on September 06, 2016, 10:59:18 PM
He means C&O, for those wondering what in the hell happened.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: binkman on September 07, 2016, 06:19:32 AM
Sorry. It was late.  :uglystupid2:
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: l'amour on September 08, 2016, 07:07:15 AM
Sorry for the delay.

Pass!
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: egg_salad on September 08, 2016, 08:32:38 AM
Chris:

You know the company does not get money for shares bought out of the orphan box, right?
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: binkman on September 08, 2016, 12:32:22 PM
Quote from: egg_salad on September 08, 2016, 08:32:38 AM
Chris:

You know the company does not get money for shares bought out of the orphan box, right?

I did not realize that. Rats. I'll fix it, hang with me.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: binkman on September 08, 2016, 12:38:11 PM
Sorry guys. I hope no one minds that I took the opportunity to change my turn very slightly and swap one purchased orphan share for one purchased held share (so still 1 C&O orphan out there).
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: egg_salad on September 08, 2016, 12:48:55 PM
Quote from: binkman on September 08, 2016, 12:38:11 PM
Sorry guys. I hope no one minds that I took the opportunity to change my turn very slightly and swap one purchased orphan share for one purchased held share (so still 1 C&O orphan out there).

Doesn't bother me.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: rstites25 on September 09, 2016, 09:13:07 AM
I assume l'amour is still passing. I bought 3 shares of the NH.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: Woodall on September 09, 2016, 05:17:37 PM
Buy the remaining C&O share
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: egg_salad on September 09, 2016, 06:14:53 PM
Bought 5 shares of the BM.

Good investment opportunity.. Woodall, buy a share from the B&M and it can probably run a six train in the next 2 business rounds!

Chris is up.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: l'amour on September 10, 2016, 06:32:53 AM
Good old B&M
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: bayonetbrant on September 10, 2016, 06:56:17 AM
If you guys are interested, there's a forum-based Napoleonic kriegspiel starting up soon, too
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: binkman on September 12, 2016, 04:58:52 AM
Pass.

Sorry for the delay.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: l'amour on September 12, 2016, 05:10:46 AM
Pass
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: rstites25 on September 12, 2016, 08:36:39 AM
NH bought back its last orphan share. Unless something drastic happens, I'll pass going forward.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: Woodall on September 12, 2016, 05:23:45 PM
Buy 3 shares of NH @ 66
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: rstites25 on September 13, 2016, 04:41:08 PM
Mike is up, correct?
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: Woodall on September 13, 2016, 06:26:00 PM
Yes, Mike is up.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: egg_salad on September 13, 2016, 07:04:53 PM
Sorry, my notifications stopped working.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: egg_salad on September 13, 2016, 07:09:14 PM
I pass, Chris is up.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: binkman on September 14, 2016, 06:25:37 AM
I pass too. L'amour is up.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: l'amour on September 14, 2016, 08:37:15 AM
Pass
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: binkman on September 14, 2016, 08:48:06 AM
I thin Rex's auto-pass conditions are fulfilled, and so James is up.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: Woodall on September 14, 2016, 08:54:38 AM
I'll pass
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: egg_salad on September 14, 2016, 08:58:27 AM
Is that everyone, then?  On to the last 2 Bidness rounds?
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: rstites25 on September 14, 2016, 09:46:57 AM
Correct.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: egg_salad on September 14, 2016, 09:52:27 AM
B&O ran and paid out $46/share.  Wabash Woodall is up.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: Woodall on September 14, 2016, 05:44:04 PM
Wait... thinking about this. Sold a 5 train instead (since Rex isn't cooperative  :P) - ran for 240 which does increase valuation.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: binkman on September 14, 2016, 06:06:36 PM
I think James was in a hurry.

Nickel Plate  (l'amour) is up. And please fix the trains; James put the 5 train he sold back on the buy pile instead of the scrap pile.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: Woodall on September 14, 2016, 06:10:23 PM
Sorry... trying to work out this damn TUSCW turn at the same time. ;0
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: binkman on September 14, 2016, 06:45:11 PM
Quote from: jwoodall04 on September 14, 2016, 06:10:23 PM
Sorry... trying to work out this damn TUSCW turn at the same time. ;0

I imagine its hard to get Grant to cooperate when he's in yelling distance of Atlanta.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: rstites25 on September 14, 2016, 08:05:11 PM
Quote from: jwoodall04 on September 14, 2016, 05:44:04 PM
(since Rex isn't cooperative  :P)

Me? Uncooperative? Do tell.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: Woodall on September 14, 2016, 09:00:07 PM
Well I cycled the two 5s so you could kill the game (and win it for me) with the NYC... don't quite need 10 deliveries for the Wabash at this point.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: l'amour on September 15, 2016, 06:29:58 AM
NP runs to Chicago, Indianapolis, Detroit, Cleveland, Pittsburgh for 300 net and pays mike 30, Woodall 60 and me 210.

Mike's B&M to go next.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: rstites25 on September 15, 2016, 08:42:33 AM
Quote from: jwoodall04 on September 14, 2016, 09:00:07 PM
Well I cycled the two 5s so you could kill the game (and win it for me) with the NYC... don't quite need 10 deliveries for the Wabash at this point.

I thought it was already a foregone conclusion that we'd get to the 6's this turn. But maybe I was just assuming you'd buy 2 5's...
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: egg_salad on September 15, 2016, 10:49:37 AM
I would assume the Erie is going to buy a train.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: egg_salad on September 15, 2016, 10:50:17 AM
B&M went, paid out $12/sh.

C&O/Chris up next.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: binkman on September 15, 2016, 12:51:28 PM
C&O paid out $28/share. Mike is up to run the icky.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: egg_salad on September 15, 2016, 01:14:14 PM
Icky pays out $26/share.  L'amour / Erie up.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: Woodall on September 15, 2016, 01:22:36 PM
Quote from: rstites25 on September 15, 2016, 08:42:33 AM
Quote from: jwoodall04 on September 14, 2016, 09:00:07 PM
Well I cycled the two 5s so you could kill the game (and win it for me) with the NYC... don't quite need 10 deliveries for the Wabash at this point.

I thought it was already a foregone conclusion that we'd get to the 6's this turn. But maybe I was just assuming you'd buy 2 5's...

I believe you had the option to buy the first 6 after I did buy the 2 5s last turn. Maybe I was mistaken on company order, but I thought that would end it. That's why I had the Wabash with 2 5s at the beginning of this business round, when I'd make more with just the one. :)
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: rstites25 on September 15, 2016, 04:14:36 PM
That may very well be. I seem to recall withholding in BR1 last time with the intent of buying a 5 in BR2. But then when I was up in BR2, there was just a 6. I think my concern during the SR was whether the NYC would have a chance to get a 6.

You should know by now, that I won't expedite the end of a game just because I have little to no chance of winning. It probably would have been to your advantage to leave a 5 for the NYC since you make almost as much money off the NYC as I do.  ;D
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: Woodall on September 15, 2016, 04:20:14 PM
Oh, I didn't expect you to do it. I just thought I'd present the opportunity. I went to the 6 because it was $500 and the NYC had $500. And I thought it'd be a suiting end after I read you receivership play (though you may not have wanted me in that so quickly). :)
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: rstites25 on September 15, 2016, 08:41:57 PM
Quote from: rstites25 on September 15, 2016, 04:14:36 PM
That may very well be. I seem to recall withholding in BR1 last time with the intent of buying a 5 in BR2. But then when I was up in BR2, there was just a 6. I think my concern during the SR was whether the NYC would have a chance to get a 6.

You should know by now, that I won't expedite the end of a game just because I have little to no chance of winning. It probably would have been to your advantage to leave a 5 for the NYC since you make almost as much money off the NYC as I do.  ;D

Unfortunately, I had to withhold dividends to ensure that I would be first in the Stock Round to make sure I'd be able to start the NYC. Had I paid out and then Chris [I think] did not start the NYC when he went first instead of me, I would have been able to get 7 shares instead of 6. I had hoped that someone further down the Net-Worth ladder would have bought the shares instead of either you or Mike. I probably would have made up enough ground on them at 6/4 or 7/3 to pass them and if neither Mike or you had the shares, I might have made a run at you guys.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: l'amour on September 16, 2016, 11:39:26 AM
Erie bought a 6 train, built to Cleveland and Chicago and paid a dividend of 90 to me and 60 to Woodall.

Binkman's Pen to go next.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: binkman on September 16, 2016, 12:37:38 PM
Penn paid out $51 a share. On to Rex to close out the PENNultimate business round.

See what I did there?  :D
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: rstites25 on September 17, 2016, 09:39:09 AM
NH ran for $70 net and paid out $28 to me, $21 to Woodall, and $21 to the company.

NYC bought a 6 train and ran to:

Chicago ($100)
Indy ($60)
Ft. Wayne ($50)
Detroit ($90)
Cleveland ($60)
Wheeling ($60)
Pitt ($80)
Buff ($60)
Syr ($40)
Utica ($20)
Albany ($50)
NY ($80)
Philly ($60)

For a total of $810 less $180 maintenance is a total of $630

Paid out dividends of $63 per share. $378 to me and $252 to Woodall

Back to Mike and the B&O for the final ultimate round.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: rstites25 on September 17, 2016, 09:43:11 AM
Since this game is winding down, is everyone interested in playing again? Play this again or something else? 18XX?

I'm up for anything. I'd really like to keep playing if everyone else is up for it.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: egg_salad on September 17, 2016, 09:49:50 AM
I'm up for playing this or something else.  I think we've got a good group.  I think an 18XX would be fun.

B&O paid out $49/sh -- Wabash Woodall is up.

Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: Woodall on September 17, 2016, 11:25:01 AM
I'm traveling this weekend - if someone wants to run the Wabash for me to expedite the last round, that'd be real swell. No cubes left so should be automatic to optimize it!
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: rstites25 on September 17, 2016, 12:04:25 PM
Wabash ran for $270 and the trustee decided to withhold.  ;)



Or Woodall got all of it. Share price increased.

Over to l'amour for the Nickel
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: l'amour on September 17, 2016, 12:13:28 PM
I'd love to play again. I'd probably lean towards another game of this before 18xx because I like playing things with the same people more than once but I'd be happy to go straight to 18xx if you all prefer.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: l'amour on September 17, 2016, 12:14:48 PM
Im not at home so I'll sort out my railroad tomorrow morning  (middle of the night for you ).
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: egg_salad on September 17, 2016, 12:29:15 PM
I rang the Wabash and paid out $27/sh.  Ni plate / l'amour is up.

Should go to the next page before doing this..
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: binkman on September 17, 2016, 07:10:00 PM
I'd be happy to play B&O again, might have a slight preference for an 18xx.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: rstites25 on September 17, 2016, 08:38:16 PM
If we played 18XX, the games available on VASSAL are:

18AL
1889
18VA
18GA
1826
18EU
1851
18Scan
18US

Rails has

1830
1835
1851
1856
1880
1889
18AL
18EU
18GA
18Kaas
18TN
18Lummer

The advantage of Rails is that it has rules enforcement and calculates the optimum route.

I'm open to either B&O or any 18XX (probably 1830 or 1889 would be a good place to start)
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: l'amour on September 18, 2016, 03:10:17 AM
NP ran for $33 per share, paid 231 to me, 66 to Woodall, 33 to Mike.

On to B&M / Mike.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: egg_salad on September 18, 2016, 11:02:27 AM
B&M buys a 6 train, makes $25/sh, pays out.

Chris / C&O up.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: binkman on September 18, 2016, 12:16:21 PM
C&O ran for $29/share.

Mike is up to run the Icky.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: egg_salad on September 18, 2016, 02:20:32 PM
Icky bought the last 6 train and ran for 36/sh.

Erie / l'amour is up.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: l'amour on September 19, 2016, 04:13:39 AM
Erie done. Paid 234 to me and 156 to Woodall. Pen to go next.

That's me done too. I'm finishing with (spoilers!) total wealth of $2961 (pending confirmation by the authorities). Not a shameful amount but certainly in the bottom half, maybe even dead last.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: binkman on September 19, 2016, 08:00:04 AM
Penn ran for $51/share again, paying out $102 to Rex and the rest to yours truly.

Up to Rex to finish it out. Assuming he runs optimal cash production, I think James wins. Even if Rex trashes the NH and NYC, I think James will still win. Should look something like this:

James $4005
Mike $3669
Chris $3126
l'amour $2961
Rex $2621

If I had only held my stakes in the Penn and B&O, I feel like I could have done about 30% better.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: Woodall on September 19, 2016, 09:32:48 AM
I think it was a mistake for me to dump my PRR as well. That said, I estimated a few things poorly which makes it seem worse than I had initially intended. Quite a company you have there!
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: binkman on September 19, 2016, 10:10:23 AM
Yeah, and the C&O could have been a beast if I could have gotten more money into it. I was hoping someone would throw in some venture capital when I started it; could snapped up a coal, hit the northeast, inflated the stock price and never looked back.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: Woodall on September 19, 2016, 10:47:52 AM
I thought about it but it didn't look promising compared to my other options. And I wouldn't have had control.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: rstites25 on September 19, 2016, 12:28:59 PM
Finished up.

Final Net Worth:

$4005--Woodall:  $1461 (cash) + $1330 (10 x $133 Wabash) + $266 (2 x $133 Nickel) + $400 ((4 x $100 Erie) + $110 (1 x $100 C&O) +198 (3 x $66 NH) + $240 (4 x $60 NYC) = $4005

$3784--Mike:  $1304 (cash) + $1022 (7 x $146 B&O) $660 (6 x $110 IC) + $133 (1 x $133 Nickel) + $665 (5 x $133 B&M)

$3126--Chirs:  $1434 (cash) + $990 (9 x $110 C&O) + $592 (8 x $74 PRR) + $110 (1 x $110 IC)

$2815--l'amour:  $1005 (cash) + $931 (7 x $133 Nickel) + $133 (1 x $133 B&M) + $146 (1 x $146 B&O) + $600 (6 x $100 Erie)

$2633--Rex:  $1385 (cash) + $360 (6 x $60 NYC) + $148 (2 x $74) + $330 (3 x $110 IC) + $146 (1 x$146  B&O)  + $264 (4 x $66 NH)

My math comes out a bit different than Chris'...not sure why. Doesn't look like it changes the standings, though.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: binkman on September 19, 2016, 12:35:47 PM
Quote from: rstites25 on September 19, 2016, 12:28:59 PM
My math comes out a bit different than Chris'...not sure why. Doesn't look like it changes the standings, though.

I imagine, sir, it's because YOU are sober on this fine Monday afternoon.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: Woodall on September 19, 2016, 12:37:13 PM
Protestants...
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: rstites25 on September 19, 2016, 01:11:59 PM
Quote from: binkman on September 19, 2016, 12:35:47 PM
Quote from: rstites25 on September 19, 2016, 12:28:59 PM
My math comes out a bit different than Chris'...not sure why. Doesn't look like it changes the standings, though.

I imagine, sir, it's because YOU are sober on this fine Monday afternoon.

Do you remember what you started the C&O for? Just curious how much the shares appreciated.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: Woodall on September 19, 2016, 01:17:31 PM
I think it was 60 or 66, but I wouldn't swear to it!
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: egg_salad on September 19, 2016, 02:25:05 PM
I seem to be in 2nd place a lot.  Always a bridesmaid..
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: binkman on September 19, 2016, 02:53:29 PM
Quote from: rstites25 on September 19, 2016, 01:11:59 PM
Do you remember what you started the C&O for? Just curious how much the shares appreciated.

I'm pretty sure it was $66.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: rstites25 on September 19, 2016, 04:00:58 PM
So what's the consensus? Play this again? 18XX?
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: Woodall on September 19, 2016, 04:26:07 PM
Think I'm out this round. Thanks for the games so far, might join in later.  :P
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: binkman on September 19, 2016, 05:04:01 PM
Quote from: rstites25 on September 19, 2016, 04:00:58 PM
So what's the consensus? Play this again? 18XX?

If enough are up for an 18XX, I'd like to try one. Know next to nothing about the differences, so maybe you guys can recommend one. I'm eagerly awaiting GMT to ship me 1846. I know it's not on the lists, but can we play one like it? (And which one would be most like it?)
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: egg_salad on September 19, 2016, 07:11:06 PM
I'd vote for an 18XX, but would be willing to play B&O again too. 

1830 would be a decent one to start with, unless we have a shark amongst us (I am not --  I think the experts know this one pretty well.  I have played it 3-4 times, and never won).
18AL/GA are supposed to be a decent intro 18XX, but I have not played them.
I have played 1889, and it would be a decent intro, as it is very similar to 1830, but is on a more constrained map.  Cool little tweaks, but really not more complicated than 1830.

I'd probably list my 18XX preference as 1889 ,1830, any other..
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: rstites25 on September 19, 2016, 07:32:24 PM
1889 is generally considered a good entry-level 18XX. It's essentially 1830 on a different map. I think the train rush is milder and it's probably more difficult to go bankrupt.

I don't know a ton about 1846, but I think it's supposed to be somewhat unique. There's no initial auction for privates, which can be somewhat difficult for new players who have no idea how to value the privates. I think the stock market it is a bit milder.

B&O and 1830 cover the same geographical region and period, so it provides a good comp.

Off the top of my head, here are the major differences between the two:


I'm sure there are more, but that's what comes immediately to mind.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: rstites25 on September 19, 2016, 07:35:18 PM
Quote from: egg_salad on September 19, 2016, 07:11:06 PM
I'd vote for an 18XX, but would be willing to play B&O again too. 

1830 would be a decent one to start with, unless we have a shark amongst us (I am not --  I think the experts know this one pretty well.  I have played it 3-4 times, and never won).
18AL/GA are supposed to be a decent intro 18XX, but I have not played them.
I have played 1889, and it would be a decent intro, as it is very similar to 1830, but is on a more constrained map.  Cool little tweaks, but really not more complicated than 1830.

I'd probably list my 18XX preference as 1889 ,1830, any other..

I would think 1889 or 1830 would be best. If we're 4 players, I don't think there'd be much chance of a bankruptcy in 1830 given the lack of experience among us all.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: binkman on September 19, 2016, 07:54:39 PM
Of 1830 and 1889, I'd prefer 1889, because, if nothing else, I prefer vassal.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: binkman on September 19, 2016, 07:55:11 PM
Quote from: rstites25 on September 19, 2016, 07:35:18 PM
I would think 1889 or 1830 would be best. If we're 4 players, I don't think there'd be much chance of a bankruptcy in 1830 given the lack of experience among us all.

I hear all of this in Ron Swanson's voice, by the way.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: rstites25 on September 19, 2016, 08:07:02 PM
Little known fact:  Ron Swanson is an 18XX shark.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: egg_salad on September 19, 2016, 11:28:05 PM
Quote from: binkman on September 19, 2016, 07:54:39 PM
Of 1830 and 1889, I'd prefer 1889, because, if nothing else, I prefer vassal.

Rails is actually pretty nice.  I love the route calculation automation.  Routes can be tricky at the end.  But I am ok with VASSAL.  Break out the spreadsheets!
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: l'amour on September 20, 2016, 04:52:17 AM
I'm happy with 89. Sad to lose Woodall.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: l'amour on September 20, 2016, 05:33:42 AM
Quote from: rstites25 on September 19, 2016, 12:28:59 PM


My math comes out a bit different than Chris'...not sure why. Doesn't look like it changes the standings, though.

I only checked mine, but that comes out differently because I had 2 B&O and you only counted 1. Doesn't make much difference but there are the type of games where you have to count everything!
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: rstites25 on September 20, 2016, 09:04:46 AM
Quote from: egg_salad on September 19, 2016, 11:28:05 PM
Quote from: binkman on September 19, 2016, 07:54:39 PM
Of 1830 and 1889, I'd prefer 1889, because, if nothing else, I prefer vassal.

Rails is actually pretty nice.  I love the route calculation automation.  Routes can be tricky at the end.  But I am ok with VASSAL.  Break out the spreadsheets!

Plus it has rules enforcement, which might make for a smoother game.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: Woodall on September 20, 2016, 09:58:54 AM
I changed my mind. I'm in for 1830 on Rails. Not sure 1889 plays well with 5?
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: rstites25 on September 20, 2016, 10:23:10 AM
Quote from: jwoodall04 on September 20, 2016, 09:58:54 AM
I changed my mind. I'm in for 1830 on Rails. Not sure 1889 plays well with 5?

Clearclaw rates it as follows at the various player counts: (https://boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/43918/item/979436#item979436)

Overall Rating: 8.5
Rating with 3 Players: 7 (8.5 if teaching)
Rating with 4 Players: 8.5
Rating with 5 Players: 7.5

And 1830: (https://boardgamegeek.com/geeklist/43918/item/979366?commentid=1146861#comment1146861)

Overall rating: 9
Rating with 2 players: 5
Rating with 3 players: 7
Rating with 4 players: 8.5 (not sure why this isn't 9)
Rating with 5 players: 8.5 (not sure why this isn't 9)
Rating with 6 players: 9

The potential problem with 1889 is that the train mix is such that when you jump from 5's to 6's (I think), that it's likely only two companies will have a slot open to buy the train. If they don't have the money to buy a 6 (to kill the 3's) then the game may drag on unnecessarily.

I would vote for 1830. I think the worst that might happen is that someone goes bankrupt. But that's probably preferable to the game dragging on.

I did read on the 1889 forums that there are some questions about how good Rails rules enforcement is. So we'll probably still have to keep an eye on it. But I think it does a generally good idea. I haven't been able to find the 1889 rules online. The AH 1830 rules are here (https://boardgamegeek.com/filepage/131517/cleaner-copy-original-avalon-hill-rules) (They are supposed to be far superior to the Mayfair reprint).
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: Woodall on September 20, 2016, 01:33:16 PM
Would appreciate a copy of the rules by e-mail if you don't mind. I can't access BGG.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: rstites25 on September 20, 2016, 02:06:38 PM
Attached.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: Woodall on September 20, 2016, 02:08:25 PM
Thanks bud.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: l'amour on September 20, 2016, 04:48:25 PM
1830 is fine with me. I'll need to read the rules too.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: binkman on September 20, 2016, 06:22:21 PM
I'm in too.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: Woodall on September 20, 2016, 09:08:14 PM
So... Vassal vs. Rails

What are we gaining or losing playing on one or the other?
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: rstites25 on September 20, 2016, 09:48:55 PM
I'm not sure what the advantage of VASSAL would be. Both allow for PBEM play and we'd be posting a logfile for each.

Rails has rules enforcement, but isn't perfect. (For example, in the 1889 module at least, it highlights hexes you can legally place a token in, but you can actually select any hex with a city and put a token there). Rails also tabulates and tracks all stock prices, cash transfers, etc. This includes paying dividends. So no hassle of trying to calculate payouts for multiple people. My hunch is that the rules enforcement is only lacking in some edge cases, but will generally get things right. In my limited experience playing around with Rails solo, it's probably superior to VASSAL for 18XX.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: binkman on September 21, 2016, 11:46:19 AM
Let's do rails, then.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: egg_salad on September 21, 2016, 01:55:50 PM
I'm down with 1830 on rails.

Reminds me of a conversation with my wife:
Her: "this car corners like it is on wheels .."
Me: "rails"
Her: "What?"
Me: "The saying is this car corners like it is on rails."
Her: "That makes no sense!"
Me: "Well, they are trying to show that the car is capable cornering very fast, as if it were held down.." trailing off seeing look on her face.
Her: "Whatever"
Me: "Yes, dear, it's stupid." (grinning)

Now, just to be clear, my wife is actually much smarter than I am, but there are a few things I know that she does not.  When I find one of those things, I remember it forever.



Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: rstites25 on September 21, 2016, 02:49:02 PM
I hate to put a damp squid on everything, but you really shouldn't put women on a pedal stool.

Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: rstites25 on September 22, 2016, 07:44:48 PM
Is everyone ready or do people need more time to get through the rules?
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: Woodall on September 22, 2016, 07:49:31 PM
I'm going to be in the middle of nowhere without access until next Friday probably, so a delay would be fine by me. I also haven't yet read the rules.

Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: l'amour on September 23, 2016, 01:55:32 AM
A week off sounds good to me. I'll read the rules.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: binkman on September 23, 2016, 05:41:03 PM
In the mean time, i just discovered that Phil Eklund is a genius. Does anyone have any interest in playing Pax Pamir or Pax Porfiriana? I could start another topic in the forum for it.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: Woodall on September 23, 2016, 05:44:22 PM
I could play that. Also, I think he was interviewed by the Guns, Dice, and Butter guy. Good listen.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: egg_salad on September 23, 2016, 06:08:07 PM
I might be interested.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: rstites25 on September 23, 2016, 06:40:42 PM
I'd be up for either.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: l'amour on September 23, 2016, 07:20:37 PM
I'd be up for porfiriana
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: binkman on September 25, 2016, 09:35:05 AM
http://grogheads.com/forums/index.php?topic=17896.0
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: rstites25 on October 01, 2016, 10:11:45 AM
Bumping this thread in case Woodall isn't subscribed to the Pax thread.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: Woodall on October 04, 2016, 01:08:11 PM
You know, the little thing says I'm notified on this thread, but I'm not receiving the notification e-mails.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: bayonetbrant on October 04, 2016, 01:09:00 PM
Quote from: jwoodall04 on October 04, 2016, 01:08:11 PM
You know, the little thing says I'm notified on this thread, but I'm not receiving the notification e-mails.

weird.  I'll poke around under the hood and see what's going on
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: Woodall on October 04, 2016, 01:10:15 PM
I re-notified... also up for 1830 whenever you guys want.
Title: Re: B&O Gamebox Refugee Game
Post by: rstites25 on October 04, 2016, 08:30:25 PM
Set up 1830 game here (http://grogheads.com/forums/index.php?topic=17959.0)