Quote from: Father Ted on April 23, 2024, 05:42:19 PMQuote from: undercovergeek on April 23, 2024, 04:57:53 PMAnd then we're right back to female James Bond
Explain to me why this idea is wrong? What is it that really upsets people about this idea?
[/quotQuote from: Father Ted on April 23, 2024, 05:42:19 PMQuote from: undercovergeek on April 23, 2024, 04:57:53 PMAnd then we're right back to female James Bond
Explain to me why this idea is wrong? What is it that really upsets people about this idea?
Not a clue - it doesn't upset me
Quote from: undercovergeek on April 23, 2024, 05:31:04 PMYou're going to argue that space marines aren't exclusively male, that the 60 odd books aren't mainly male characters? Because you are wrong Because up until last week they were
Quotethere is not one single obstacle to a girl/woman playing this hobby
Quote from: undercovergeek on April 23, 2024, 04:57:53 PMAnd then we're right back to female James Bond
Quote from: al_infierno on April 23, 2024, 05:13:15 PMQuote from: undercovergeek on April 23, 2024, 04:57:53 PMNobody I've read, spoken to or experienced has ever said women are not welcome in the hobby
That's like saying "nobody I've ever spoken to has personally encountered racism" as a counter-argument to racism. Just because you don't see it doesn't mean it doesn't exist. There are tons of examples of people being excluded from all kinds of nerd hobbies (yes, even Warhammer) if you care to look for it.Quotewho insist that exclusively male toys and fiction are made to include females
And here's precisely where you're wrong. Warhammer is not an "exclusively male toy and fiction." All "guy media" has always appealed to women as much as it has to men. That's precisely why there's been a push in recent years for this type of media to be more inclusive and representative of its audience, and people like you don't seem to see past your own personal experiences with the hobby.QuoteI'm in a very privileged place - I don't fucking care
This applies so much more than you realize. Yes, I know you're privileged and don't care. That's what this whole argument has been about!QuoteWhy isn't the dictator in your game a woman?
Why does the dictator in my game need to be a woman? If you want to talk about female representation in my game, we can talk about it. There are multiple major female characters in the game, including the PC's wife and daughters. The in-game society expects them to fit traditional female roles, because the world is intentionally regressive, but they still have agency in the story and can affect the outcomes of major events depending on their choices. Also, while she's a minor character, there's an explicitly more "feminist" character in Arletta Menator, who embodies the "badass action chick" trope as a contrast to the other women in the game.
The Great Leader easily could have been a woman, and it wouldn't have changed much, but having him be a man is IMO a better fit for the assumptions that go along with the "eastern european dictator" archetype.
Quote from: undercovergeek on April 23, 2024, 04:57:53 PMNobody I've read, spoken to or experienced has ever said women are not welcome in the hobby
Quotewho insist that exclusively male toys and fiction are made to include females
QuoteI'm in a very privileged place - I don't fucking care
QuoteWhy isn't the dictator in your game a woman?