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Nefaro

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Quote from: Dread Rlyeh on February 16, 2015, 04:16:47 PM
Quote from: bobarossa on February 16, 2015, 03:28:56 PM
Quote from: Dread Rlyeh on February 16, 2015, 03:05:59 PM
The repair costs increase based on what modules you have unlocked, if you hover over one it will say 'repair cost + XXX'.  Are you factoring in that?

edit: unlocked and equipped to be technical about it
No, I wasn't.  I just added them up and they're about 480 (~1800 total) which still leaves us well short of the 10k that Nefaro experienced.  I'll have to monitor it on something I have unlocked to get a more accurate read.  I'll also try playing and leaving after losing only one vehicle and check the repair cost to see if I'm experiencing the same cost inflation.
yeah nm, that might shed some light on the variation between what is seen on the research screen (I don't know if that is a stock plane or 100% modules unlocked) and in hanger, but it doesn't explain the 10k.  I doubt it is based on level, maybe some weird bug or something.   10k is crazy for that tier aircraft.


Dunno but the listed Maximum Repair Cost for that one jives with the cost.  It's just shy of 11k IIRC.

I have others in the same tier that cost around 12k max repair.

Maybe the repair cost also increases when you are using Premium (as I have been lately).  But that would kinda defeat part of the purpose of using Premium, if that were the case.  ???

I've actually been gaining Lions at a decent pace the last couple days, now that I'm in the groove and getting an occasional kill or two in Realistic Battles.  So it's not crippling my income in the long run.  Could be an issue if I were only doing a couple matches a day while still out of the groove though.

bobarossa

Well, i advanced to level 10 and the displayed repair costs stayed the same.  1290 for 109 Trop, and 1669 for KV-1 L-11.  If they are charging you more because you have a premium account that would really suck.  I did notice when looking at the economic messages, that, when I am doing well, I spend more on ammo reloads than on repairs (2k to 3k for tanks).  When I suck, then repair costs dominate (played one battle today with two one-shot kills where I didn't get a shot off!)

Silent Disapproval Robot

I don't know if I'm just playing stupidly, if other players are getting better, or if I'm just having bad luck but I've been getting my ass handed to me on a regular basis lately.  I seem to get tagged and one-shotted or crippled before I even see anything to get a shot off.  Maybe if I did the shithead thing and lowered my gfx settings to zero, I wouldn't be firing blindly through foliage but I ain't gonna stoop to that level of uselessness.

Nefaro

Quote from: bobarossa on February 18, 2015, 06:31:01 PM
Well, i advanced to level 10 and the displayed repair costs stayed the same.  1290 for 109 Trop, and 1669 for KV-1 L-11.  If they are charging you more because you have a premium account that would really suck.  I did notice when looking at the economic messages, that, when I am doing well, I spend more on ammo reloads than on repairs (2k to 3k for tanks).  When I suck, then repair costs dominate (played one battle today with two one-shot kills where I didn't get a shot off!)

I dunno what it is but I'm definitely being charged much more in-game currency for repairs than you.  It has to be intentional, I just don't know how or if there is any reasoning behind it other than dragging out my grind.

endfire79

Score, I got about $150  game credit from buying a new Nvidia GTX 750 GPU from Newegg.  I'm pimping up!  B-17, here I come.
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Nefaro

Quote from: endfire79 on February 18, 2015, 09:03:00 PM
Score, I got about $150  game credit from buying a new Nvidia GTX 750 GPU from Newegg.  I'm pimping up!  B-17, here I come.

Dayum!  :o

W8taminute

Quote from: Silent Disapproval Robot on February 18, 2015, 07:21:53 PM
I don't know if I'm just playing stupidly, if other players are getting better, or if I'm just having bad luck but I've been getting my ass handed to me on a regular basis lately.  I seem to get tagged and one-shotted or crippled before I even see anything to get a shot off.  Maybe if I did the shithead thing and lowered my gfx settings to zero, I wouldn't be firing blindly through foliage but I ain't gonna stoop to that level of uselessness.

I'm having the same experience in my air battles.  It's getting annoying to have your pilot one shotted before even getting a chance to fire a shot yourself.  Then on the other hand though I have noticed that through sheer dumb luck I'm getting more pilot kills then usual. 

I suspect they've played with damage modelling and something is not quite right yet.  But that's just my feeling with patch 1.45
"You and I are of a kind. In a different reality, I could have called you friend."

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Nefaro

One-shotting pilots became a problem a year or more ago, in one of the big updates. 

I've not been experiencing it as much lately but that's probably because I don't often go for a head-on gun contest unless my plane has much more superior armament.  The 20mm cannons seem to be able to hit your pilot with almost any shot from the front, and fairly often from other angles.

I raised my pilot's Vitality ratings and it seems to lessen the frequency a bit at around 40+.  It may even be noticeable in the 20s.

W8taminute

I got one shotted last night and it was no head on encounter either.  I was on the tail of an enemy in my FW190 when this Yak-9 comes out of my 10 o'clock high and one shot's me before I even knew what happened.  I only figured it out after watching him peel away from my carcass in the death cam.

But then in the next round I was flying my F4F and blew apart an He 51 in a domination match with just a short burst. 

Now I believe the Yak-9 is at least one tier higher than my FW190 A1 and my F4F is 1 tier higher than that He 51 I got so maybe there's special bonuses if your prey is a tier or two lower than you.
"You and I are of a kind. In a different reality, I could have called you friend."

Romulan Commander to Kirk

Nefaro

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Quote from: W8taminute on February 20, 2015, 07:20:33 PM
I got one shotted last night and it was no head on encounter either.  I was on the tail of an enemy in my FW190 when this Yak-9 comes out of my 10 o'clock high and one shot's me before I even knew what happened.  I only figured it out after watching him peel away from my carcass in the death cam.

But then in the next round I was flying my F4F and blew apart an He 51 in a domination match with just a short burst. 

Now I believe the Yak-9 is at least one tier higher than my FW190 A1 and my F4F is 1 tier higher than that He 51 I got so maybe there's special bonuses if your prey is a tier or two lower than you.

The Yak-9T and Yak-9K can both one shot people easily.  They're the ones with the 37mm and 45mm guns, respectively.  They're OP as hell because you can get some pretty precise aiming with mouse & keyboard. 

Yaks also seem to be built of what has been jokingly called "Stalinwood" in War Thunder.  They have a reputation for taking lots of hits and still flying, which I don't think was a big historical strength for them.  Everyone chalks it up to Russian Developer Syndrome.  ;D   They also have the most damaging autocannons and rifle caliber machineguns (~.30) in the game, in my experience.  Their 20mm ACs, alone, seem to kill pilots more than anything else.  But the 37 and 45 just plane blow wings off in one go.  I was always surprised the Yak-9T/K Battle Ratings were so low.  You can kinda do the same with P-39s and P-63s but they aren't as maneuverable, bleed energy like crazy, and in the case of the P-39s their acceleration is junk.

W8taminute

Quote from: NefaroThe Yak-9T and Yak-9K can both one shot people easily.  They're the ones with the 37mm and 45mm guns, respectively.

Oh yeah, I've heard of those planes being discussed before.  Couldn't remember which was the most feared or OP Russian in the game.  How's the La5N in comparison to the Yak-9 series?  I'm still flying a Yak-1 and Mig-3 in my Russian tree but I'm working my way up at a pretty good clip.


Quote from: NefaroYou can kinda do the same with P-39s and P-63s but they aren't as maneuverable, bleed energy like crazy, and in the case of the P-39s their acceleration is junk.

Acceleration is junk on a P-39?  Hmmm...you've given me some knowledge I didn't have before.  I knew the P-39s and 63s don't maneuver well but I always seem to get caught by them at times when I've dumped most of my energy and wasted it foolishly hunting another prey.  Next time I get one of these guys on my 6 I'm going to change my strategy on how to get away from them now that I know a bit more about how those planes (P-39 in particular) perform.
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Nefaro

Quote from: W8taminute on February 21, 2015, 08:35:59 AM
Quote from: NefaroThe Yak-9T and Yak-9K can both one shot people easily.  They're the ones with the 37mm and 45mm guns, respectively.

Oh yeah, I've heard of those planes being discussed before.  Couldn't remember which was the most feared or OP Russian in the game.  How's the La5N in comparison to the Yak-9 series?  I'm still flying a Yak-1 and Mig-3 in my Russian tree but I'm working my way up at a pretty good clip.

The La-5F is decent, jack of all trades.   The two 20mm cannon in the nose means it kills quickly if you can aim precisely.  The La-5FN one notch above it is very nice.  Doesn't quite turn like a Yak but it's still turns better than many and climbs quite well.  I use it for higher altitude energy fighting in Realistic battles.  You can WEP for ages with the FN at over 4km alt.  It can still kinda out turn most American and German aircraft too.

I'm still working on unlocking the La-7. 

Stalinwood and Stalinguns = win.

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Quote from: NefaroYou can kinda do the same with P-39s and P-63s but they aren't as maneuverable, bleed energy like crazy, and in the case of the P-39s their acceleration is junk.

Acceleration is junk on a P-39?  Hmmm...you've given me some knowledge I didn't have before.  I knew the P-39s and 63s don't maneuver well but I always seem to get caught by them at times when I've dumped most of my energy and wasted it foolishly hunting another prey.  Next time I get one of these guys on my 6 I'm going to change my strategy on how to get away from them now that I know a bit more about how those planes (P-39 in particular) perform.

They may be able to dive better than what you were flying.  But if you can get them into a turn fight down low and slow, then they tend to wallow more than some other aircraft.  I've not played them much recently so their flight models may be different than they were a year ago when I played them more often.

Actually, I think many of the American fighters' acceleration is crap other than in a dive.  The P-51 is in that category, compared to others it's matched against in the matchmaker.  The P-38G is pretty good at it but that things wings break and catch fire in a stiff wind.  I've still had some fun with the fully upgraded version of it, when I survive very long.

Silent Disapproval Robot

Muddy tanks.



Tanks will get dirty over time depending on terrain.  This may affect optics for gunner's sights and driver's viewports in sim mode.

They're also working on tank physics for snow and sand so hopefully we'll see some winter and desert maps soon.

endfire79

"I will return before you can say 'antidisestablishmentarianism'."

"A man may fight for many things. His country, his principles, his friends. The glistening tear on the cheek of a golden child. But personally, I'd mud-wrestle my own mother for a ton of cash, an amusing clock and a sack of French porn."

Silent Disapproval Robot

Looping video showing the clean/dirty versions of a Sherman.

http://coub.com/view/53cbj