Russia's War Against Ukraine

[GDS_Starfury]

 

[GDS_Starfury]

[Sir Slash]

More careless cigarette smoking? 

[GDS_Starfury]

Storm Shadow cruise missiles vs very fixed targets. 
which means air launched cruise missiles from somewhere over the SW Black Sea by the UkAF.

[Windigo]

I'd say that surface ship is a loss.... tougher to tell about the submarine.

Dollar for dollar, I'd say that is a very fair trade.

[Gusington]

The UK came close to losing an RAF crew of 30 last fall:

https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-66798508

[Sir Slash]

Sounds very, "Hunt For Red October"-ish doesn't it? 

[GDS_Starfury]

I'd say that surface ship is a loss.... tougher to tell about the submarine.

Dollar for dollar, I'd say that is a very fair trade.

was watching the dockside video of it today.  its a total write off.  the sub is also fucked.  even if it didnt take a direct hit the fire of the ship next to it cooked its tiles.  most importantly, both dry docks are fucked and that leaves just one the russians have in the Black Sea.

[GDS_Starfury]

ah here it is:

https://twitter.com/i/status/1702487728393240661

[FarAway Sooner]

Yeah.  I take it all with a grain of salt, but here is a pretty detailed article talking about how it happened:  https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidaxe/2023/09/13/ukrainian-bombers-firing-western-cruise-missiles-have-destroyed-a-russian-submarine/?ss=aerospace-defense&sh=5404016d1ea7.

Apparently, they used commandos to disable a couple of sensor platforms on oceanic rigs, and they exploited a recently created hole in the Russian SAM network to target both ships with 10 British and/or French cruise missiles.  It seems counterintuitive, but if ships are in dry dock, they're often not well manned, have their power (and firefighting systems) turned off, and have lots more flammable materials lying around.

That, or the Russians just didn't put enough tires on top of those two ships...

[GDS_Starfury]

what you described sounds like a much more awesome operation.
it jives with the alleged destruction of a whole s-400 system, radars and all launch platforms.

[Crossroads]

Toasted sub, anyone?

https://twitter.com/Believe_In_Ukr/status/1702098953066487948

Let us not be unreasonable, though:

https://twitter.com/oryxspioenkop/status/1702293180446646686

[Gusington]

Say hello to our new Polish overlords.

[Windigo]

Looking at the flame colours coming off the warship, I would say it is well and truly fucked. The core white in the flame says there are high temps being reached and some metals are melting.

[Tripoli]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/russian-landing-ship-destroyed-and-it-will-take-years-to-repair-submarine-uk-intelligence/ar-AA1gKUrC?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=U531&cvid=44e05e035f3448aba5bcdf971d3bcc7e&ei=15#image=1

MSN is quoting UK intelligence as saying the sub is effectively a mid-term loss, although it might be able to be salvaged after years and hundreds of millions of dollars.  According to them, the Minsk is a gonner.