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Title: Hurricane Michael
Post by: airboy on October 10, 2018, 07:14:04 PM
This one got big very late.  Hammered the air force base and Panama City.  I have a couple of fishing buddies with condos at Panama City.

Unlike Florence, Michael is racing inland at a fast pace.  It started raining in Auburn before 8:00am and we are scheduled to be out of the rain before Noon tomorrow.  Unusual for such a large storm.
Title: Re: Hurricane Michael
Post by: Sir Slash on October 10, 2018, 09:59:52 PM
Very much like Hurricane Charlie here in 2004, about a 4-5 hour event which was a good thing as if he had been moving more slowly, damage would've been much worse.  :hide:
Title: Re: Hurricane Michael
Post by: Toonces on October 10, 2018, 10:13:59 PM
The footage I've seen today looked really, really bad.  I hope it's mostly hype.
Title: Re: Hurricane Michael
Post by: GDS_Starfury on October 10, 2018, 10:56:18 PM
it isnt.
the landfall area got flooded deep and nuked from orbit.
the footage Ive seen is almost as bad as Mirths love life.
Title: Re: Hurricane Michael
Post by: GDS_Starfury on October 10, 2018, 11:00:49 PM
the only thing good about that hurricane is that its moving fast and keeping the weather channel tight shirt pec-fest to a minimum.
Title: Re: Hurricane Michael
Post by: SirAndrewD on October 10, 2018, 11:23:28 PM
Long day of Hurricane Michael dropping mildly annoying rain.

Almost Zero impact here.

Lots of nice refugees at my trip to the grocery today, all fleeing from FL.

Good luck to everyone south east of here.
Title: Re: Hurricane Michael
Post by: airboy on October 11, 2018, 08:23:49 AM
Lot of refugees in Auburn.  But there is a home football game on Saturday so most will probably leave on Friday.

Power outages seem to be in a pretty concentrated area.  I hope they can get the lights back on quickly.

I go deep sea fishing out of Panama City.  I hope the marina survived.
Title: Re: Hurricane Michael
Post by: Sir Slash on October 11, 2018, 10:13:26 AM
Even if the marina didn't survive, the good news is the Deep Sea part is much closer now. I'm sure there will be fatalities from this monster, hopefully very few. But I think there were way too many people who stayed behind for this to be likely.
Title: Re: Hurricane Michael
Post by: em2nought on October 12, 2018, 02:18:21 AM
Quote from: Sir Slash on October 11, 2018, 10:13:26 AM
I'm sure there will be fatalities from this monster, hopefully very few. But I think there were way too many people who stayed behind for this to be likely.

So far I've heard the mention of there being only six which would be amazingly lucky given the photos of the devastation being aired.
Title: Re: Hurricane Michael
Post by: bayonetbrant on October 12, 2018, 06:43:05 AM
We actually got heavier rainfall and waaaaaay worse wind from this one than from Florence. 
It also only last about 6 hours vs 2-1/2 days.

Schools were closed yesterday so they didn't have busses on the road right when the worst of the storm was coming in, which was a good call since we hit 50mph wind gusts right at the time the elementary schools would've been releasing.

Schools are also closed today, as there's at least a dozen of them that still didn't have power at 11pm last night b/c of downed trees all over the area, including our son's high school.

No fatalities reported in our area, but a LOT of damage from trees down everywhere and a lot of power lines tangled in those trees, which means they have to coordinate city public services w/ the electric company to clean those up.
Title: Re: Hurricane Michael
Post by: Pete Dero on October 12, 2018, 07:01:37 AM
Quote from: bayonetbrant on October 12, 2018, 06:43:05 AM
We actually got heavier rainfall and waaaaaay worse wind from this one than from Florence. 

When we have a very heavy storm the wind reaches max 120 kmh.   I can't start to imagine what 240 kmh would be like.

Hopefully this was the last one of the season.
Title: Re: Hurricane Michael
Post by: em2nought on October 17, 2018, 01:11:56 AM
I thought it was bad when New Orleans mayor left all those $chool buses to get trashed by Katrina, I guess the USAF brass felt they had to one up them by leaving $2 billion worth of F-22$ for Michael to trash.  L:-)
Title: Re: Hurricane Michael
Post by: bayonetbrant on October 17, 2018, 04:58:19 AM
http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/24204/setting-the-record-straight-on-why-fighter-jets-cant-all-simply-fly-away-to-escape-storms
Title: Re: Hurricane Michael
Post by: Pete Dero on October 17, 2018, 10:09:35 AM
https://www.thedailybeast.com/at-least-26-people-have-now-died-from-hurricane-michael?ref=home

At least 26 people are now confirmed to have died in the aftermath of Hurricane Michael.

Meanwhile, nearly 137,000 Florida customers remain without power, according to state emergency management officials.
Title: Re: Hurricane Michael
Post by: Sir Slash on October 17, 2018, 11:00:37 AM
I feel for them. I had no power for 2 weeks after Charlie and a week and a half after Irma. The good news is you can sell anything with the word, 'Generator' on it for BIG bucks  :bd:   (just kidding, don't report me). It got so hot here after Irma without AC that I actually was peeing on fans for the relief.
Title: Re: Hurricane Michael
Post by: em2nought on October 17, 2018, 11:26:00 AM
Quote from: bayonetbrant on October 17, 2018, 04:58:19 AM
http://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/24204/setting-the-record-straight-on-why-fighter-jets-cant-all-simply-fly-away-to-escape-storms

Since all the base housing was destroyed maybe they should consider building a new hangar/hurricane shelter this time around.  Leaving $2 billion in jets just sitting in a state prone to hurricane with little protection is no different than lining your fighters up in nice little rows at Pearl Harbor for the Japs to strafe.  The brass must be too used to taking a "bye" on the golf course if they think they should get a "bye" for this.
Title: Re: Hurricane Michael
Post by: Pete Dero on October 17, 2018, 11:54:40 AM
(Stupid ?) noob question : jets can fly at speeds over 1000 kmh, how can winds of 200 kmh damage them if you turned them facing the wind ?
Title: Re: Hurricane Michael
Post by: bayonetbrant on October 17, 2018, 02:55:39 PM
Quote from: Pete Dero on October 17, 2018, 11:54:40 AM
(Stupid ?) noob question : jets can fly at speeds over 1000 kmh, how can winds of 200 kmh damage them if you turned them facing the wind ?

it was more an issue of all the debris flying around that damaged them


Quote from: em2nought on October 17, 2018, 11:26:00 AM
Since all the base housing was destroyed maybe they should consider building a new hangar/hurricane shelter this time around.  Leaving $2 billion in jets just sitting in a state prone to hurricane with little protection is no different than lining your fighters up in nice little rows at Pearl Harbor for the Japs to strafe. 

Did you see the state of the hangars that were there, too?

Look, hurricanes hit the South all the time, and there's no shortage of bases out there to get hit.

Homestead AFB was hammered years ago.
Hunter Army Airfield was murdered when a hurricane hit Savannah
Multiple hurricanes have damaged Goldsboro AFB
Shaw AFB in SC has been flooded at least 3x by hurricanes
MacDill AFB has taken multiple direct hits.  Ditto Key West and the NAS there.

and you don't even want to get started on everything that's parked in Tidewater VA

Shit happens, and guys fix it afterwards.  Tyndall is going to be shut down for a few years, but they'll rebuild it and it'll be operational again in 3-5 years.  In 50+ years of tracking major hurricanes, we've had ONE that wiped out a military base.  They're doing OK.

Oh yeah, and...

https://www.airforcetimes.com/news/your-air-force/2018/10/15/air-force-hurricane-damage-to-tyndall-f-22s-less-than-we-feared-but-unknown-how-many-will-fly-again/
and
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/defense-national-security/air-force-believes-all-f-22-jets-that-were-left-behind-at-tyndall-will-fly-again-after-hurricane-michael