Star Wars: The Last Jedi

[SirAndrewD]

Wish Rey had.

You sir, are not a liar.

[Destraex]

Just saw it. My thoughts. SPOILERS
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! SPOILERS !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



- Princess Leia space walks. This does happen in some of the books. But she looked like a banshee and travelled a large distance it seems - perhaps kilometres? The huge ship seemed really distant.
- Kylo Ren is left lying on the floor magically while girl escapes
- Cloak tech for transports magically
- luke projects himself further than the emperor
- one xwing destroys huge numbers of turbo turrets one shotting with lasers? The first order fleet still seems to have learned nothing from all previous death stars and fllet battles. They still cannot combat snub fighters without fighters of their own. Which they apparently are so incompetent as to have not launched fighter cover as soon as they warped in.
- A-Wing afterburners look like flames rather than the engines we are used to? Like very cheap affects.
- ships can leave and hyperspace in and out at will to the fleet. So why did the first order not do this?
- Hyperspace can destroy ships. So why not have hyperspace weapons? Why did they not do this automated with the other ships before they got destroyed running out of fuel?
- Red imperial guard replacements do wrap dances
- Somehow they have minature death star weapons now.
- kylo and girl still projecting after smoke dead (talking to each other by feeling, snoke must have been wrong about this)
- Fin was not recognised on a notorious new order sympathiser world (casino)
- Why are the rebel ships faster than the new order ones.
- Ray has no training which is supposed to be really dangerous but is somehow still the equivalent of the best jedi ever. Surpassing luke really easily. Everything in these films is about convienience and laziness. Nothing is ever worked for.
- Chinese chick thinks ramming and destroying a friends ship is helping to save him.
- Lots of really stupid jokes and silly remarks that just add to the comedy feel of the whole thing. It's not even a serious attempt and now luke and leia are out it's probably all over. The new characters are idiots and the team feeling of the rebels is lost.
- Bombers apparently deliver ww2 style from huge vulnerable ships now. But don't worry. The new order does not really open fire.
- Why not send for help while still in space instead of at the base?
- BB8 takes out guards with gold coins.
- bb8 blocks circuit board with 10 probes to block sparks. Then rams it with his head and it sparks up like its burning out. This is not how to fix a circuit board and if the headbutt fixed it then it must be tougher than the probes! Targeting comes back online.
- Laser Swords. (Laser Swords). Childs terminology from people who should know better.
- Spaceships - lets get our space ships? Childs terminology from people who should know better.
- Massive Horse Beasts go up cliffs and are unstoppable through the casino which has no advanced materials? The glass is apparently real glass rather than plasteel.
- Snowtroopers (salt flat troopers) look like stunted 4ft tall dwarfs.
- Two female leads kinda being older cougars because they think the younger pilot is spunky
- Leia chastises her people for not following the pilot when earlier he mutinied and had been demoted in rank earlier.
- No feeling from c3po and luke barely acknowledges him

Theatre had no air conditioning (over 30 degs C here today)
After making a major effort to head off any accidental spoilers. Lego ad showing the ships from the new movie and the movies trailer which I had avoided (event cinema trailer specifically to promote them and the movie even though we had paid already!) were showing spoilers before movie started!!!! The feakin hide of them!

[Staggerwing]

Use the spoiler Tags!

[spoiler]THIS IS A SPOILER!!![/spoiler]

[Centurion40]

Not a fan of the Porgs or whatever the screaming penguins were. Chewy had the right idea of what to do with them. Glad Leia didn't show up in the bikini. Wish Rey had.

What Slash said!

Didn't love it, didn't hate it. Overall, my impression tips towards more favourable than not. The humour surprised me. At times it was more like Spaceballs than Star Wars.

Although it made for a good scene, why they'd chose dropping bombs over using missiles eludes me.

[Sir Slash]

Good point above. B-17 Bombers?   

[Staggerwing]

Because manual bombing is more dramatic... "Stay on target... stay on target!!!"

[OJsDad]

 :timeout: They have the tech for artificial gravity, Death Stars, hyper drives but cannot make a missile? 

[Staggerwing]

:timeout: They have the tech for artificial gravity, Death Stars, hyper drives but cannot make a missile?

That's because Lucas based the whole look of space combat on footage from WW2. The Rebels and/or Imperials would get their clocks cleaned if they ran into a similar-sized GalacticaReboot-verse fleet. Even on the tactical level it would be like Hurricanes v. Harriers.

[mirth]

At times it was more like Spaceballs than Star Wars.

Yep. There were times I thought I was watching Spaceballs. The humor was ill placed in this movie. Can you imagine Vader cracking-wise in the original trilogy?

Mark Hamill was outstanding. I wish Luke had been in every scene.

There were a lot of little things that bothered me. The movie felt pretty silly and then at times veered into self-reverence.

I'd give it a 7. Didn't think it was better than Force Awakens. Didn't think it was better than any of the original trilogy.

[Gusington]

Did you like it better than Rogue One?

[mirth]

No.

[Gusington]

I doubt I will like it more than Rogue One either...I really enjoyed Rogue One.

[jamus34]

The concept of bombers in space was...er...wrong. First off the bombs wouldn't "drop" They would just float.

If you want to use WWII vernacular torpedo boats would at least make a helluva lot more sense.

Not sure if they will be building on the casino scene and the conversation from it or if it was just today's SJW dig at war profiteers and we'll never discuss it again.

It was overlong and felt it. I mean the capital ship case? I'm fine with the fact that the New Order ships could not catch the cruiser...I imagine they are built for sustained warfare so speed is secondary.

I really am not sure if I can say I liked it or not. Still processing.

Hamill was awesome and I like that he finally stated what many people have thought...that the Jedi order for the most part are no better than the Sith...one was undone by it's arrogance the other by selfishness.

[Destraex]

spoilers:
I agree. Freefall bombs in space was silly. Unless they were propelled by the launch mechanism.
I am surprised they did not have catapults and ewoks making a come back in space. WAIT they did. The scene where the droid fired coins at the enemy to knock them out.

Disney are running out of veteran star wars actors fast. Once they are gone. They will be left with the lifeless cardboard actors that are the up and coming supposed stars.

- Chewbacca and the eating scene with the porgs was extremely silly.
- How is Yoda able to have the power to destroy things from the grave? I though obi wan said this was not possible.
- Fin walking around with bacta streaming out of hoses in the launch bay while everybody ignored him. Just stupidity.
- What is with the trend now to hook imperial gear up to hoses while they are stowed? Does it take years to fuel them up?

[Sir Slash]

I liked it better than Rogue1. And are we to assume (spoiler ahead) that Rey's parents were really just, nobody's? After all the hints and hype about them in Force Awakens?