Independence Day 2 Resurgence

[OJsDad]

Will Smith isn't in it either. 

[OJsDad]

How are they going to make a new movie without Robert Loggia?

Replace him with William Fichtner.

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[Nefaro]

I dunno...bigger things, louder noises, and what looks like more cheese doesn't necessarily make a better movie. I'm sure I'll be seeing it but I'm not feeling the enthusiasm you guys are.  :-\

With ya.

While the original was worth watching, I thought it's popularity was overblown.  Overblown cheesery.

[BanzaiCat]

I liked that they nuked Houston in the first one. :)

[Sir Slash]

Fichtner can't be as Loggia as Loggia was. Wasn't he in Mars Attacks too? Now that was some real Cheese.

[JasonPratt]

Fichtner can out-Logia Logia, given the opportunity. He kicked John McClane's Die Hard ass fairly decisively up to literally the last minute (even winning the final boss fight!); has been President of the Marvel Universe United States; and played Death.

[Sir Slash]

But can he look into the camera and say with a straight face that the President of the United States is going to lead an airstrike on an alien mothership?

[JasonPratt]

He can hang from a deactivated Iron Patriot armor with a straight face. Advantage: Fichtner.

[Sir Slash]

But did Fichtner ever save the world by sacrificing himself in order to destroy, "The Lost Missle" in 1958? I thought not.  :P

[Airborne Rifles]

Or when can a Macbook download a virus to an advanced alien computer system and decimate their entire network?

BECAUSE SHUT UP, THAT'S WHY! 

20 years later, and the aliens are back...and this time they've installed Norton 360!

[Staggerwing]

Or when can a Macbook download a virus to an advanced alien computer system and decimate their entire network?

BECAUSE SHUT UP, THAT'S WHY! 

20 years later, and the aliens are back...and this time they've installed Norton 360!

So this time their superior technology will be choked to a standstill by runaway background processes?

[SirAndrewD]

Fichtner can't be as Loggia as Loggia was. Wasn't he in Mars Attacks too? Now that was some real Cheese.

[Nefaro]

Mars Attacks! was okay.. because it was intentionally cheesy. 

Independence Day just squeezed out the cheese on occasion, thinking it was being serious.  Bill Pullman's speech should've been left alone and forgotten as just another small bit of the film, but it got replayed so much I now instinctively roll my eyes when I hear it.  ::) 

That extra overkill, along with other examples such as giving it the nickname "ID4", just made it even cheesier.  Even my inner nerd wanted to bully the gushing Independence Day fanboy nerds.  ;D

[Gusington]

"20 years later, and the aliens are back...and this time they've installed Norton 360!"

[Arctic Blast]

Mars Attacks! was okay.. because it was intentionally cheesy. 

Independence Day just squeezed out the cheese on occasion, thinking it was being serious.  Bill Pullman's speech should've been left alone and forgotten as just another small bit of the film, but it got replayed so much I now instinctively roll my eyes when I hear it.  ::) 

That extra overkill, along with other examples such as giving it the nickname "ID4", just made it even cheesier.  Even my inner nerd wanted to bully the gushing Independence Day fanboy nerds.  ;D

Let's not forget Judd Hirsch's portrayal of the most obnoxiously cliché Jew in history. Never has a less subtle performance been seen.