I cannot wait for this one to be released. The Steam page is up, but no release date yet. :(
http://store.steampowered.com/app/261550/Mount__Blade_II_Bannerlord/
These combat videos look amazing!
Looks like not much has changed in mount and blade. Animations still look the same and the graphics not much better.
I want this on my wishlist though. But tell me something. Has the physics model and the armour modelling changed? Because last time I remember you could hit anywhere for the same effect.
In other words, there was no armour modelling. Just light, medium and heavy armour classifications for the whole body. I hated that.
There is no information about armor accurate modelling like in WOTR, from the video it seems it will be same as in Warband, the little information about combat actually has been posted on taleworlds site yesterday only:
Key Combat Updates
Mount & Blade II: Bannerlord also features greatly updated combat, which builds on previous instalments in a number of ways while retaining its intuitive, direction-based core that made it so popular among players.
Directional Shield Blocking and Shield Bash – These two features revitalize the sword & board gameplay, making it a more engaging experience than ever before! Blocking in the wrong direction will not necessarily get you killed but it will cause your shield to break faster, leaving you defenseless against missiles and vulnerable against multiple foes. Shield bashing, a highly requested feature, temporarily stuns your opponent and knocks them back, lowering their defenses and giving you room to breathe.
Attack Chaining – Swings that complete their motion can now be chained into follow-up attacks which can catch your opponent off-guard after a miss. Unbalanced weapons such as hammers and axes also use the momentum of the first swing for a faster follow-up!
Improved Animations and Combat Engine – Huge effort has gone into making Mount & Blade II: Bannerlord's combat as fluid and visually appealing as possible. Damage dealt is now calculated with a great degree of physical depth, factoring in the weight distribution of every individual weapon. This means that whether you are executing a perfectly timed thrust while thundering towards a hapless archer on horseback or shooting an arrow across the battlefield to whittle down your opponent's infantry forces before the melee, the game will understand all of the forces involved and produce consistent, realistic and satisfying results every time.
Source:https://www.taleworlds.com/
So they are some update but not really revolutionary, and those been done in other melee games. However, I really cant wait to play the game, the game is amazing with big battles and siege using all tactics that you could do, plus the sandbox campaign, plus the modding community and DLC by third party that can improve the game drastically, I am currently playing Viking Conquest and I am having a lot of fun.
The Steam page has actually been up for quite some time now.
And the forum is filled with people speculating about/begging for the real release date.
Didn't want to start a new thread for one question so here goes: I just bought Mount and Blade: banner lord. Never played before. I see a ton of mods so I'm curious if there are any "must have" mods or any highly recommended?
Quote from: mikeck on July 16, 2017, 10:49:36 PM
Didn't want to start a new thread for one question so here goes: I just bought Mount and Blade: banner lord. Never played before. I see a ton of mods so I'm curious if there are any "must have" mods or any highly recommended?
I don't believe Bannerlord has been released yet. I am guessing you mean Mount and Blade: Warband. There are some great mods. As well as some downloadable modules that are well worth it. The Napoleonic mod allows you to fight as a commander of a few dozen troops...great fun in multi-player. The nord mod takes place in a pre-Norman England based world...a lot of fun. There is also With Fire and Sword, a 17th century Eastern Europe mod. And those are just the DLC. Plenty of great stuff out there.
Gekokujo Japanese mod!
Quote from: ArizonaTank on July 17, 2017, 12:33:46 AM
Quote from: mikeck on July 16, 2017, 10:49:36 PM
Didn't want to start a new thread for one question so here goes: I just bought Mount and Blade: banner lord. Never played before. I see a ton of mods so I'm curious if there are any "must have" mods or any highly recommended?
I don't believe Bannerlord has been released yet. I am guessing you mean Mount and Blade: Warband. There are some great mods. As well as some downloadable modules that are well worth it. The Napoleonic mod allows you to fight as a commander of a few dozen troops...great fun in multi-player. The nord mod takes place in a pre-Norman England based world...a lot of fun. There is also With Fire and Sword, a 17th century Eastern Europe mod. And those are just the DLC. Plenty of great stuff out there.
Fire and Sword and Viking Conquest started life as mods but evolved into paid DLC (with quality to match). Viking Conquest is my absolute favorite Mount and Blade game and well worth the money. Fire and Sword is a lot of fun, especially if you're into the 17th century and Eastern Europe.
Of the free mods I'm very fond of the two Brytenwalda mods (the mod that grew into Viking Conquest) because I really like the period (early Anglo-Saxon England). I also like the Guerre des Cent Ans mod, but it might be a problem if you're not comfortable with French.
I've hear of the Nord mod, but don't remember exactly what it covers. Is it an historical mod or a mod based on the Mount and Blade fantasy world? I went looking for it and couldn't find it, but probably didn't look hard enough.
You can get the viking conquest DLC, it is really excellent, the mixed review is due to initial buggy release, but I can say now it is the best historic M&B mod/DLC available for single player experience.
Thanks, I did purchase the Viking DLC
Quote from: mikeck on July 17, 2017, 02:01:56 PM
Thanks, I did purchase the Viking DLC
I love the music in the Viking DLC. Overall, one of my favorite gaming experiences.
I love the music in the Viking DLC, but I like the music the same team had originally used for Brytenwalda even better.
I suspect they felt that a major piece of game music with only two notes wouldn't appeal to a wide audience. Whenever I hear it I'm reminded of a scene early on in the first season of Rome when Julius Caesar tells his musicians to play something else while they're marching on Rome.
There are lots of great mods but I always drift back to "Prophecy of Pendor". I am sure Bannerlord will be a good start vanilla but modding is what makes Mount and Blade worth coming back to.
Quote from: Philippe on July 17, 2017, 09:00:49 PM
I love the music in the Viking DLC, but I like the music the same team had originally used for Brytenwalda even better.
I suspect they felt that a major piece of game music with only two notes wouldn't appeal to a wide audience. Whenever I hear it I'm reminded of a scene early on in the first season of Rome when Julius Caesar tells his musicians to play something else while they're marching on Rome.
The music is very close to the History Channel's "Vikings" TV show...
Quote from: ArizonaTank on July 17, 2017, 12:33:46 AM
Quote from: mikeck on July 16, 2017, 10:49:36 PM
Didn't want to start a new thread for one question so here goes: I just bought Mount and Blade: banner lord. Never played before. I see a ton of mods so I'm curious if there are any "must have" mods or any highly recommended?
I don't believe Bannerlord has been released yet. I am guessing you mean Mount and Blade: Warband. There are some great mods. As well as some downloadable modules that are well worth it. The Napoleonic mod allows you to fight as a commander of a few dozen troops...great fun in multi-player. The nord mod takes place in a pre-Norman England based world...a lot of fun. There is also With Fire and Sword, a 17th century Eastern Europe mod. And those are just the DLC. Plenty of great stuff out there.
Sorry...meant I purchased Mount and Blade Warband
At any rate, I've been playing nothing but this game for a month now. Playing the "Medieval Conquest mod" which is an update of the "Anno 1247" mod.
I had always though M&B was multiplayer with a half-arsed single player. Not sure why but I can't believe I have not played this before. I'm fascinated by the depth and haven't even explored Viking Conquest. Graphics are decent but I CANT wait for Bannerlord. I may never leave the house! Even got me into one of those moods where I start buying books and watching shows on the era. I play on my laptop at either rewatch "Vikings", "IronClad" or "Kingdom of Heaven". One of those rare phases we gamers get into where we are consumed by a game for a long time
I have been waiting for Bannerlord so long that I almost forgot it was out there. I was even starting to suspect the project was dead.
But then I saw the latest dev post. I'll spare the details, but sounds like a very serious and capable team are working on this. Interesting that they are not going the "early access" route.
Anyway, here is the post...
https://steamcommunity.com/games/261550/announcements/detail/3648371458947851581 (https://steamcommunity.com/games/261550/announcements/detail/3648371458947851581)
Long live Bannerlord!
Yeah I've thought the same for a while. Good to know Bannerlord is very much alive and kicking! O0
Bison...heh, I remember that guy, back when he used to be cool.
Anyway, this is a day 1, insta-buy for me. I mean insta-insta-buy.
Quote from: mikeck on October 10, 2017, 02:42:50 PM
....Not sure why but I can't believe I have not played this before. I'm fascinated by the depth and haven't even explored Viking Conquest. Graphics are decent but I CANT wait for Bannerlord. I may never leave the house! Even got me into one of those moods where I start buying books and watching shows on the era. I play on my laptop at either rewatch "Vikings", "IronClad" or "Kingdom of Heaven". One of those rare phases we gamers get into where we are consumed by a game for a long time
Some of my best gaming moments have been with Mount & Blade... Love the feeling of leading a massed charge of heavy cavalry against a waiting line of infantry, backed by archers.
There are just a handful of games that stay on my HD and still get regular play after many years.....Mount & Blade, and all of its variants is one of them.
Have always and will probably always be a great fan of this series. It's mind-boggling how it's taken so long for them to get the second game out... they must really be struggling to make ends meet or something. Shame they parted ways with Paradox as I can't help but think it'd have been released by now. I'm sure they had good reasons though - a publisher isn't for everyone.
I just hope this pans out for them financially so they can keep supporting it after release - otherwise a lot of people have wasted a lot of time, energy and money.
I have no doubt Paradox would have had it released by now...but in the condition most paradox games are in upon release. Usually they work and don't have show-stopping bugs but still need 3-4 updates to be properly fleshed out. Hopefully the devs are skipping that part and releasing it in the shape it SHOULD be in
Quote from: ArizonaTank on October 15, 2018, 11:35:58 AM
There are just a handful of games that stay on my HD and still get regular play after many years.....Mount & Blade, and all of its variants is one of them.
Yup.
Are any of you guys actually good at M&B 1? Or do you know a good tutorial? I love the game, but always sort of drift away because I'm never quite sure what I'm supposed to be doing, and I also really suck at it.
Most of my time has been joining up the big MP servers and just hacking people while sipping scotch...which is fun in its own right, but I'd like to master the SP part. It just seems to take forever and I never seem to get anywhere.
Some quick thoughts
The first thing is to dumb everything down, AI, enemy ability to damage you, your ability to damage friendlies etc. It helps a great deal to keep you alive while you are learning the ropes. And frankly you probably won't notice after a while. Even after many years, I still play this way.
I suck at sword fights, but I can usually do OK with archery, or a sword or lance from horseback. So I don't do arena fights. I also avoid getting caught in a place where I have to fight on foot. There are some missions you can do where you have to track down and kill criminals and the like. I never dismount for these guys. Speed, and a slashing attack from horseback does wonders.
In early game, I stay away from mounted opponent bands, or those with good archers. Having high "sighting" and "pathfinding" skills are necessary in early game. Tracking can also help. They allow you to see potential enemies far away, and then chase them down, or avoid them.
Later, you will need leadership, so you can grow your band. Surgery, training and first aid also help you keep your band in top shape.
Usually, my guy is mounted. So in battle, I give the order for my troops to "follow me" and I take them to high ground. Then I have them defend that location. This allows me to run off and harass the enemy before they get to my guys.
In battle, the beginner AI will come for your line. The bad guys often string out and lose formation. That is when I start to pick off individuals from horse back...archery, slashing sword attacks, or a lance if I have one. Usually I get two or three of the enemy to follow me. But since I am on horseback...its kind of rope a dope.
Meanwhile, the rest of the strung out enemy formation starts trickling into my guys defensive line...this allows my 10 or 20 guys to fight them off piecemeal. Ten peasants can rip up 6 or 7 raiders in this way...but it will be touch and go....usually my line wins.
Winning a bunch of those fights gets you to the point where the local nobility starts to notice you in a good way. Getting a gig as a mercenary band is a good deal. Every once in a while, you will see a battle between some nobleman and bad guys. Unless the nobleman is badly outnumbered, join the fight. You can keep your guys back with the follow me, or defend here command. But when the fight is over, you will gain brownie points. That also give you free reign to pirate caravans from your lord's enemies. Once you get some money, start buying good troops at the inns.
Also go to inns to hire as many characters as you can. You can distribute special weapons and armor to them, and have them develop certain skills, like inventory management or siege. Sometimes, you get messages that one character has hard feelings about another and wants you to do something like get rid of them. I usually pick the option that is closest to, "shut up and keep marching." Don't think I have ever seen a rebellion. But watching food supplies, and maintaining freshness is also important for morale.
^ Wow. I've probably got 150-200+ hours in this game and I didn't know a lot of that. Maybe I should RTFM one of these days. ::)
::)
available in early access march 2020....at least we know a date now
https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2019/08/20/mount-blade-ii-bannerlord-rides-into-early-access-in-march/
Ugh... its been in the oven so darn long and still early access. 🙄
Day 1 purchase. I volunteer to be the guinea pig on this one fellas!
You are absolutely not going to have to guinea pig Mount and Blade II.
I don't imagine many of us aren't going to plunge with you.
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on August 21, 2019, 05:24:37 AM
available in early access march 2020....at least we know a date now
https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2019/08/20/mount-blade-ii-bannerlord-rides-into-early-access-in-march/
Go! Go! Go!
COOL!! I've been waiting so long for this game I forgot I was waiting for this game. :) But anyways, good news.
Managed to get a half hour session with this in the single-player campaign at GamesCom. I cried tears of happiness.
It's looking pretty sweet.
It is almost March!!! This is really the only game I am waiting for.
Yeah I am pretty stoked for it as well! :smitten:
x 3!
Oh, so this is incoming? Finally?
I am sooooo in. Day 1 instabuy FTW! \m/
We have news!? March you say!?
Oh yeah. :bd:
I must say. I look forward to reviews by you guys. I will be comparing it to war of the roses. Combat mechanics in the realistic vein is the interest for me.
You better not be able to slash through plate.
Quote from: CJReich46 on February 11, 2020, 08:09:03 PM
We have news!? March you say!?
Oh yeah. :bd:
Not news per se... The March date has been announced for a while.
But if you go to the game page on Steam, you will see current dev logs that sound like they are on track.
Also the devs homepage displays March 2020 in big letters...so yes reason to believe it.
https://www.taleworlds.com/en/Home
Interesting, I didn't know the game was set to go into Early-Access next month already. It's going to be hard to resist the temptation to pick it up right away. It looks damn good!
Gawd, I just can't keep waiting like this...
I must have it!!!!!!! :crazy2:
march 31st release for $49.99
https://www.pcgamer.com/mount-and-blade-2-launches-in-early-access-on-march-31/
March 31st, that's almost April. Much to long to wait. March means March 1st ;)
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
IT IS TIME!
SELL THE HOUSE, SELL THE CAR, SELL THE KIDS!
I'M PLAYING BANNERLORD!
Well March 31st is still March... \m/
I am guessing it should be in a pretty good / highly playable state.
The price seems reasonable.
It's not even a release? Still early access and at no less than 50 euro's.
Don't get me wrong; this is an instant buy for me, but the 'normal' price while calling it early access is a little odd, don't you feel?
Quote from: Yskonyn on February 20, 2020, 01:26:47 AM
It's not even a release? Still early access and at no less than 50 euro's.
Don't get me wrong; this is an instant buy for me, but the 'normal' price while calling it early access is a little odd, don't you feel?
You are right of course...:) But what is a "release" anyway. I've been playing "7 Days to Die" for five years, and it still is "Alpha". But in reality, the game has been highly playable for years. Still, to your point, when I bought 7 Days to Die in 2015, I think I paid $5 and haven't spent another dime on it since.
As a side note. As I recall it, you might say Taleworlds was on the first cusp of the "early access" trend.
When we, the gaming public were raking Stardock over the coals for an incomplete release of "Fallen Enchantress", Taleworlds released Mount & Blade on a paid Beta basis. Basically "early access" before it was a thing. I bought it then, and the game was 95% complete and highly playable.
I pray for 95% playable on March 31!
I don't have any problem waiting for one of you nerds to buy it and try it, and then post your impressions before I jump in. ^-^
:nerd:
March 31st? Really?
This is good news indeed.
Guess I'll be waiting for a long time, then. :( I refuse to fork over that much dosh for a game anymore, especially one that's still in Early Access.
Quote from: ArizonaTank on February 20, 2020, 12:24:25 AM
Well March 31st is still March... \m/
Except by the time it releases on March 31st, it will be April 1st for quite a lot of people :P
Damn Tpek. You just gave away my April Fool's Day for this year. ;D Oh well, there's always the one about Melania Trump posing nude I can use.
UPDATE!
They moved it to March 30th for release! :D
10% discount of reg price too, and possible additional 10% for those that own any of the M&B games too!
WHAT? Link??
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA :D
Linky:
https://www.taleworlds.com/en/News/322
It will be available for purchase at 6am eastern time on Monday, March 30th surprised me it would be that early since a lot of games I buy aren't available until late morning/early afternoon. Nice surprise. Saw base price will be $49.99 but as others have mentioned, can get additional discounts at the start.
If you are just buying early, you'll get 10% off and will roughly cost you $45.
If you buy early and you own prior Mount & Blade stuff (additional 10% off), it will roughly cost you $40.
It will be hard for me not to purchase upon sight:)
Ah man. I didn't realize this was early access.
Not a day 1 purchase. I shall await your impressions, Grogs.
I am pretty much on eco-lockdown except for essential purchases. I am very interested and would get both discounts but I will feel guilty even for 40.00 right now.
I'm going to have no problem early adopting.
The newsletter Taleworlds sent is a little worrying. They state that if you want to experience all that Bannerlord will have to offer, they strongly recommend waiting for full release.
Early adopters should be ready to encounter bugs and missing features.
Quote from: Yskonyn on March 30, 2020, 03:12:42 AM
The newsletter Taleworlds sent is a little worrying. They state that if you want to experience all that Bannerlord will have to offer, they strongly recommend waiting for full release.
Early adopters should be ready to encounter bugs and missing features.
Haven't seen the newsletter, but I'm kind of not surprised. A game taking this long to come out, and then launching into Early Access anyway. It'd almost be too good to be true if it launched in a nearly perfect.
I've been playing the
Mount & Blade games though since the very first one came out and it was just the Husband/Wife dev team. If anyone gets my money no-questions asked, it'd be these guys.
The STEAM reviews are pointless so far.
People are giving it a thumbs-up after less than an hour of play simply because they can play it and the one negative review is because it crashes for that person.
Useless.
downloading now...download is a slow
Greenman Gaming has a VIP voucher giving 26% off. Total came to like $38.
I've wanted this game for a long time....but I have to face facts: games that take years and years to come out after multiple delays usually end up being busted. I hope it's not the case but to develop the game for this long and only be early access raises a flag that there is some type of issue that they can't seem to overcome.
I'll wait a bit to see if it's playable but I'm sure I'll get it anyway.
Below is a U-Tube video about the game. A first play type video. I'm still watching the video but its interesting so far.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wvof77tl6xQ
I played about three hours. BLUF: It's Mount and Blade with much better graphics and a bit more interaction with the world than previous. The controls are immediately familiar, as is combat, and enjoyable. There are factions in the cities to have relations with - merchants, craftsmen, guilds and thugs - that can give you missions. A big part of the game I haven't really touched yet is establishing your clan/house/tribe. I'll get around to it eventually, but I'm still mostly playing with the map and wandering around.
No massive bugs so far, but some small ones. I took a mission from a thug to fight off his competitors and about half of them spawned on a rooftop rather than the alley and without ranged weapons you can't do much about that.
Overall, it's definitely M&B2. If you liked the originals, you'll like this too. That said, I recently got Pathfinder: Kingmaker on a Steam sale and I'm still heavily involved in it. I'll come back to M&B2 once I need a breather again.
Quote from: hellfish6 on March 30, 2020, 10:30:59 AM
I played about three hours. BLUF: It's Mount and Blade with much better graphics and a bit more interaction with the world than previous. The controls are immediately familiar, as is combat, and enjoyable. There are factions in the cities to have relations with - merchants, craftsmen, guilds and thugs - that can give you missions. A big part of the game I haven't really touched yet is establishing your clan/house/tribe. I'll get around to it eventually, but I'm still mostly playing with the map and wandering around.
No massive bugs so far, but some small ones. I took a mission from a thug to fight off his competitors and about half of them spawned on a rooftop rather than the alley and without ranged weapons you can't do much about that.
Overall, it's definitely M&B2. If you liked the originals, you'll like this too. That said, I recently got Pathfinder: Kingmaker on a Steam sale and I'm still heavily involved in it. I'll come back to M&B2 once I need a breather again.
Agreed. It really feels just like an updated M&B. Some might see this as a great thing. Others might see it as bad, since it feels so much like the older title.
It's a real burden on the hardware.
I was running it very smoothly, but my 2080Ti was at 99% load and running at 80C.
I know that's still inside the safe zone on heat, but man, never seen anything get it that hot.
Quote from: SirAndrewD on March 30, 2020, 04:50:47 PM
It's a real burden on the hardware.
I was running it very smoothly, but my 2080Ti was at 99% load and running at 80C.
I know that's still inside the safe zone on heat, but man, never seen anything get it that hot.
Mine was working hard too. I experience the same thing in Ghost Recon Breakpoint.
Setting the frame limiter to 60fps shaved about 10C off the temp.
I am enjoying the game very much. The slightly more guided approach to starting your dynasty in campaign mode is well received on me.
Combat is still as hard as it was in Warband.
Graphics are quite nice ! As is the interface. It works well and the shortcuts to be able to do stuff from the map are awesome.
This game will definitely see much playtime!
Quote from: hellfish6 on March 30, 2020, 10:30:59 AM
I played about three hours. BLUF: It's Mount and Blade with much better graphics and a bit more interaction with the world than previous.
+1
I am four hours in, and having a great time, but I am also an M&B nut from the very first release. Graphics are better. Interface is cleaner. Commanding your troops on the battlefield is easier. I have just become a small time mercenary, and attached myself to an army of nobles. Battles and sieges are gorgeous.
I've read that Bannerlord is Steam's biggest launch of the year so far, especially in terms of concurrent players. Apparently it's even out-pacing Doom: Eternal. :o
3 hours in now and I've raised my merry little band of thugs which can now be split in two groups, as I've just secured my first companion named Alchyla the Black. She's a nasty back alley brawler who know how to wield a blade and so far she seems fearless in battle.
Many a man much taller than her has met his maker by will of her blades. :)
A big setback came when trying to stand up for the Artisans in the capital of the Southern Empire; while trying to help them avoid unfair laws and extortion the head of the Merchant Guild confronted me. I stood my ground, but are now a wanted criminal in the Southern Empire.
It's even worse as this is the place I wanted to build my honour and renown, but if I need to do it by extorting the good people I'll find my way elsewhere.
The same sidequests are popping up fairly regularly, so that's probably something they are still expanding on.
But the game is definately playable and quite fun already, for me at least.
Would love to hear anyone's comments on how difficult Bannerlord is to get into for casual player? For reference, I found combat in Witcher 3 quite hard (and never got more than a couple of hours in as a result) -- I also found combat in original M&B hard. Could be that I'm just not cut out for hack & slash games but would love another perspective.
Also -- any chance Bannerlord can be played with XBox controller or equivalent? Or is it strictly mouse & keyboard?
Quote from: sandman2575 on March 31, 2020, 03:29:27 PM
Would love to hear anyone's comments on how difficult Bannerlord is to get into for casual player? For reference, I found combat in Witcher 3 quite hard (and never got more than a couple of hours in as a result) -- I also found combat in original M&B hard. Could be that I'm just not cut out for hack & slash games but would love another perspective.
Also -- any chance Bannerlord can be played with XBox controller or equivalent? Or is it strictly mouse & keyboard?
I think it is only mouse and keyboard... having said that, it is well implemented. For example, I find some games that are consol ports to be very hard to play with mouse and keyboard. Driving a car can be frustrating for example. M&B:B feels very natural.
I am not a twitch jockey...and suck at combat games. But I can progress in M&B:B.
The game has difficulty settings that can make you and your men very survivable so that combat is not that hard. Also the game is really about commanding large groups of fighters. So you can fight battles as a commander, never really getting your hands dirty if you don't want to.
The only time I have been put down...not killed...was when I did something really stupid. Like dismounting in the middle of an enemy mob. Or making myself an easy archery target (not using cover) during a siege.
As somebody noted, there are a few...very few...rough edges. I have only noticed two small issues so far. I saw one video glitch...a shadow in town was bluish instead of dark grey...and that did not affect gameplay in anyway...and I only saw it once. Another time there was a missing piece of dialog...but it did not affect the ability to progress.
Compared to the original M&B, I am finding combat to be more natural. Horses respond more realistically, but are not really hard to ride. They seem to have done quite a bit of work on the melee AI. I can't explain it, but I actually am having fun doing fights...and I am not a twitch jockey by any means.
Sound and music are great. The theme song brings up memories of the first Conan the Barbarian movie.
Thanks AT -- "I am not a twitch jockey...and suck at combat games" pretty much sums me up as well. So what you say about the game being fairly accessible is encouraging. May have to check this out after all. Its success so far on Steam is pretty damn impressive.
Sandman, just like AT I assumed that there was NO controller support especially since there is no indication of it on the Steam page or in the options/controls. So today I plugged-in my XBOX Windows controller and the answer is YES it does support controller use. However I found the controller is more sluggish and not as accurate as M&KB. As I too have always sucked at M&B Combat I played around with the options a bit today and found that with a few minor changes under options/gameplay I'm much improved and in the training area I beat even the more advanced enemy much easier.
I would suggest if you really want to play the game that you first set under options/gameplay the Enemy AI Difficulty to POOR. And then try changing Control Block Direct and Control Attack Direct from "By Mouse Movement" to "By Movement Keys." Then try it out in the practice area against the two-tiered opponents. I found the key movement works better for me. Hope this helps.
Bannerlord is outpacing the new Doom game??
Thanks trek -- That's great to know that there is Xbox controller support, though it sounds like you're not using a controller. I've found that I've always needed to use a controller in these types of games, whether Skyrim or Metal Gear or Fallout. I just suck with Mouse & Keyboard. But maybe I should give it a try in this case. Appreciate the advice. O0
Yeah Sandman, I'm with you on using a controller in many other games. Ghost Recon BP, The Division, Metal Gear V, Assassins' Creed, etc. Of course those are more mainstream AAA titles that are primarily made for controllers. I prefer the controller on all of them. Try M&B with the controller first and then M&KB and see what you think. The only other game I play that I prefer M&KB over the controller is ARMA3 as that is really optimized for M&KB.
Quote from: sandman2575 on March 31, 2020, 03:29:27 PM
For reference, I found combat in Witcher 3 quite hard (and never got more than a couple of hours in as a result) -- I also found combat in original M&B hard.
As an aside, there are mods out there that make combat much easier and/or make you invincible. I highly suggest any of those because imho Witcher III is one of the absolute best games I've ever played and is THE best written game. I'm generally not much of a hack-n-slasher myself, and the combat in Witcher III could definitely be tedious, but the game was still very worth the effort to me.
Quote from: sandman2575 on March 31, 2020, 03:29:27 PM
For reference, I found combat in Witcher 3 quite hard (and never got more than a couple of hours in as a result)
That's unfortunate to hear. The Witcher 3 is one of the best fantasy gaming experiences I've ever had by far, and I recall you and I share similar gaming tastes and appreciation of game aesthetics.
In Witcher 3, selecting the difficulty setting on its easiest level simplifies combat greatly and allows you to experience the story at the forefront. I'd strongly recommend you retry the game at this level - it's too good a game to miss!
Appreciate the comments about Witcher 3, fellas. My Steam library tells me I have all of 8 hours played, last played Feb. 2017 (!). My recollection of it was that it is incredibly impressive both visually and from a writing/story standpoint (something I don't praise lightly -- I think the writing in most RPG games is pretty awful, even games derived from successful books -- very clear that Witcher is on a different level.) I remember thinking that the early 'training' scene in the courtyard was way too short, and I just wanted to keep fencing until I could figure the buttons out!
But it's remained on my harddrive all this time out of a lingering sense that I really should give it another go. Overall my stamina for large open-world RPGs is low. Never got very far in Oblivion or Skyrim or Pillars of Eternity or Wasteland 2 etc. etc.
That's how I felt about the combat in Witcher 2, until years later I came back to try again and something just 'clicked.'
Actually your descripition of the tutorial sounds more like Witcher 2 than 3...although I don't really remember the combat intro in 3, I clearly remember the torture of the courtyard in 2...
So, Witcher 3 is easier to play on the PC vs console? I too struggled with the PS4 game. Too twitchy for my tastes. So, there are mods for W3? I don't see any on Steam so I'm assuming Nexus mods or something? I'll have to take a peek (and at M&BB too!)
Good question - I never modded Witcher 3...I didn't think it needed it.
This thread has unexpectedly reminded me that I never even came close to finishing Witcher 3. I think I got to the part with the "Bodkin" if you are familiar with the game.
I dunno...it didn't grab me like it did so many others. I liked Skyrim far more. But, I've heard such overwhelming praise for W3 that I feel like I really need to finish it, if for no other reason than to see what the fuss is all about.
Quote from: Toonces on April 01, 2020, 06:16:12 PM
This thread has unexpectedly reminded me that I never even came close to finishing Witcher 3. I think I got to the part with the "Bodkin" if you are familiar with the game.
I dunno...it didn't grab me like it did so many others. I liked Skyrim far more. But, I've heard such overwhelming praise for W3 that I feel like I really need to finish it, if for no other reason than to see what the fuss is all about.
I'm in the same boat. I've tried 3 or 4 times to get into it...it just won't grab me. Not sure why. :-[
WRT Bannerlord, I dunno. Something about this release left me cold. I guess I was expecting after 8 years to be a "full" release. I'm sort of over the early release nonsense, TBH.
I like what you guys are saying; I just don't feel that enthusiasm to jump right in like I expected.
Quote from: Toonces on April 01, 2020, 07:15:04 PM
WRT Bannerlord, I dunno. Something about this release left me cold. I guess I was expecting after 8 years to be a "full" release. I'm sort of over the early release nonsense, TBH.
I like what you guys are saying; I just don't feel that enthusiasm to jump right in like I expected.
I'm kinda the same, but for maybe a different reason. I miss the old Warband mods, I think. This game is visually a big improvement, but the gameplay is still largely the same. That's fine - the gameplay was great in the day and it's great now - but I'm running around with a mid-size party and I'm bored. There's no point in hunting down 6-12 man looter groups anymore. I don't get anything from them of value, the experience gained is negligible, yet I'm still way too small to compete with anything else.
I don't recall the name of the mod I used to play with Warband, but it had a much more rich world with groups of mid-size bad guys (including religious zealots and cults) that still offered a challenge even without having 75-100 relatively experienced guys to command.
Again, I still like the game and it's still very much playable for me, but being a merchant and comparing the buy/sell value of flax isn't doing it for me right now. There's not much else for me to do, it feels like, unless I absolutely want to dive into that main quest. I'm otherwise getting no satisfaction marauding, lest I feel some sociopathic need to pick a fight with a random kingdom.
I think I'll just wait for the modders to come along before I tackle this again.
I think that might be because a large part of diplomacy and rpg interaction with the named lords and ladies are still missing.
The system runs on renown, but it seems like the most efficient way to earn this at the moment is by fighting and winning, making gameplay feel a little one dimensional at times.
Once you grow a little in power you'll get diminishing returns on only taking out trash looter mobs and you should move up to bandits and mountain bandits.
In my game, I managed to be "hired" on by the Southern Empire as a mercenary. To do this, I joined a noble's fight against brigands; he then was willing to talk with me. In the course of that conversation I was allowed to offer my services as a mercenary.
Being part of the Southern Empire allows me "join" friendly armies. Basically once I latch on, the game has me auto-follow the army leader. From there, I get to participate in land battles and sieges...these are very nice, but the implementation still needs a bit of work.
My biggest issue with these battles is that as the battle starts, I am given the chance to command one of the major formations within the army. Since I am low man on the totem pole, I usually can only pick the archers....so far so good. So I become commander of all the archers in the army...great. As the battle opens, I am given a command by the overall commander to skirmish in front of the infantry...again so far so good. But then the infantry starts to move toward the enemy at a jog, and my archers, who started in the rear of the formation, can never get in front of them. The overall commander is constantly giving me orders, that I just can't implement because the other parts of the army are moving too quickly.
Still, I can see where the game is going and I like it, and I am certain with time this will be fixed. It may also have something to do with my leaders tactics score, that is low. In previous versions, a high tactics score allowed you more time to plan battles.
Right now I have 64 troops, of mid-range training. My biggest paydays come when I see an enemy noble nearby who does not have enough troops to attack the army, but is shadowing. I usually break off of the main army then attack this one off group. These battles net some good renown and influence...as well as some great weapons and armor to sell.
As you get more troops, one of the critical things is to buy mules and extra horses. These will help your army move faster. Otherwise you may never catch enemy groups.
I noticed that as the Southern Empire takes enemy castles, they are given out to the nobles. So my next trick is to be made a noble, and get on that gravy train....
Quote from: ArizonaTank on April 02, 2020, 08:40:40 AM
As you get more troops, one of the critical things is to buy mules and extra horses. These will help your army move faster. Otherwise you may never catch enemy groups.
Good tip. Thanks! :bd:
Surprised many on this thread never got into The Witcher 3.
I guess you guys missed the parts where you can bed three of the most beautiful women in game history in it, plus bordellos full of other women, in near-graphic sex scenes.
Quote from: Ian C on April 02, 2020, 08:59:52 AM
Surprised many on this thread never got into The Witcher 3.
I guess you guys missed the parts where you can bed three of the most beautiful women in game history in it, plus bordellos full of other women, in near-graphic sex scenes.
Enough Witcher 3 in this Bannerlord thread already! Take it to your own turf! (http://www.grogheads.com/forums/index.php?topic=4671.0) :knuppel2: ;)
Quote from: Yskonyn on April 02, 2020, 12:17:13 PM
Quote from: Ian C on April 02, 2020, 08:59:52 AM
Surprised many on this thread never got into The Witcher 3.
I guess you guys missed the parts where you can bed three of the most beautiful women in game history in it, plus bordellos full of other women, in near-graphic sex scenes.
Enough Witcher 3 in this Bannerlord thread already! Take it to your own turf! (http://www.grogheads.com/forums/index.php?topic=4671.0) :knuppel2: ;)
+1
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on April 01, 2020, 07:11:55 PM
Quote from: Toonces on April 01, 2020, 06:16:12 PM
This thread has unexpectedly reminded me that I never even came close to finishing Witcher 3. I think I got to the part with the "Bodkin" if you are familiar with the game.
I dunno...it didn't grab me like it did so many others. I liked Skyrim far more. But, I've heard such overwhelming praise for W3 that I feel like I really need to finish it, if for no other reason than to see what the fuss is all about.
I'm in the same boat. I've tried 3 or 4 times to get into it...it just won't grab me. Not sure why. :-[
I think one reason for me is that I just don't and can't identify with Geralt. That could be the unifying thread that cuts across all the Witcher games. I've tried to get into them probably 6-8 times, including a recent 2nd shot at Witcher 3, and made it to maybe the halfway point twice.
Quote from: glen55 on April 02, 2020, 12:58:41 PM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on April 01, 2020, 07:11:55 PM
Quote from: Toonces on April 01, 2020, 06:16:12 PM
This thread has unexpectedly reminded me that I never even came close to finishing Witcher 3. I think I got to the part with the "Bodkin" if you are familiar with the game.
I dunno...it didn't grab me like it did so many others. I liked Skyrim far more. But, I've heard such overwhelming praise for W3 that I feel like I really need to finish it, if for no other reason than to see what the fuss is all about.
I'm in the same boat. I've tried 3 or 4 times to get into it...it just won't grab me. Not sure why. :-[
I think one reason for me is that I just don't and can't identify with Geralt. That could be the unifying thread that cuts across all the Witcher games. I've tried to get into them probably 6-8 times, including a recent 2nd shot at Witcher 3, and made it to maybe the halfway point twice.
That is part of it for me too. Not the whole issue, but certainly something I have reflected upon. I wish there was some possibility to customize the look of Geralt.
^At the expense of angering the Bannerlord crowd, there are tons of armor sets, weapons, spells, etc., so Geralt is customizeable in Witcher 3.
Quote from: Toonces on April 01, 2020, 07:15:04 PM
WRT Bannerlord, I dunno. Something about this release left me cold. I guess I was expecting after 8 years to be a "full" release. I'm sort of over the early release nonsense, TBH.
I like what you guys are saying; I just don't feel that enthusiasm to jump right in like I expected.
Honestly, I agree with this wholeheartedly. I really like what I've seen when I dipped my toes, but I was expecting the basic systems from Warband to at least be in place. It's fun to fire up and play custom battles, but for campaigning I'll be sticking with Warband and mods until this becomes more complete.
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on April 02, 2020, 01:34:41 PM
Quote from: glen55 on April 02, 2020, 12:58:41 PM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on April 01, 2020, 07:11:55 PM
Quote from: Toonces on April 01, 2020, 06:16:12 PM
This thread has unexpectedly reminded me that I never even came close to finishing Witcher 3. I think I got to the part with the "Bodkin" if you are familiar with the game.
I dunno...it didn't grab me like it did so many others. I liked Skyrim far more. But, I've heard such overwhelming praise for W3 that I feel like I really need to finish it, if for no other reason than to see what the fuss is all about.
I'm in the same boat. I've tried 3 or 4 times to get into it...it just won't grab me. Not sure why. :-[
I think one reason for me is that I just don't and can't identify with Geralt. That could be the unifying thread that cuts across all the Witcher games. I've tried to get into them probably 6-8 times, including a recent 2nd shot at Witcher 3, and made it to maybe the halfway point twice.
That is part of it for me too. Not the whole issue, but certainly something I have reflected upon. I wish there was some possibility to customize the look of Geralt.
My longstanding hope for the series (Witcher 4, if you will) is that eventually they'll let you do that. Build a character, choose a path and be released into the world. I doubt that'll happen, though, because that's what every other game out there seems to do. The Witcher series
IS Geralt.
I'm a big fan of the "Prophecy of Pendor" mod for Mount and Blade. It like other mods add so much to the game play that I hesitate to jump in until mods can catch up.
Quote from: Sparhawk on April 02, 2020, 08:13:06 PM
I'm a big fan of the "Prophecy of Pendor" mod for Mount and Blade. It like other mods add so much to the game play that I hesitate to jump in until mods can catch up.
Yeah, that's the one I was thinking of. Great mod, last I played it.
Indeed a great mod, but it makes an already hard game tough as nails!
Ok, so what's the current verdict on this game? It's on sale for 40 clams. Yay or nay? ???
I'd say nay if you want uninterrupted play and a finished campaign.
Yay if you just want to engage in the gameplay already and experience the huge battles, but don't mind placeholder stuff occasionally and are not afraid to have to start over because a patch isn't savegame compatible (some new features have required a restart and my guess is that more will follow)
The game can be super fun in its current state and most things are in, but it clearly is not complete yet if you look at the campaign with its diplomacy and dynasty building options.
It already rocks pretty good as a battle simulator however!
Toonces, everything I've read so far says to hold off. Until the RPG/campaign parts of the game are complete, it's just not worth picking up at this point.
Yeah, it's fun but it's still not complete. I've pledged fealty to one king, I've got the most renown and fame of anyone else in my faction and over 350,000 gold but I can't do anythign with it. My king claims all the lands I take, and I can't do anything about it. Still, the fighting is fun. Tactics work!
Nay takes the day.
Thanks Grogs! :peace:
I like it alot, and could not see myself going back to previous games. But then again, I really enjoy the battles. They are so much better in Bannerlord.
It is true that if you want the broader political game, it is not there yet....just in whispers.
If you liked Warband for its battles...then get Bannerlord. If you are new to the games...start with Warband.
Quote from: ArizonaTank on June 28, 2020, 11:38:15 AM
I like it alot, and could not see myself going back to previous games. But then again, I really enjoy the battles. They are so much better in Bannerlord.
It is true that if you want the broader political game, it is not there yet....just in whispers.
The battles in Bannerlord do indeed appear to be a marked improvement over those in Warband. The mechanics & UI have received a much-needed overhaul.
But since I like the game's concept more for the RPG/campaign aspects, I am content to wait. :)
Quote from: ArizonaTank on June 28, 2020, 11:38:15 AM
If you liked Warband for its battles...then get Bannerlord. If you are new to the games...start with Warband.
I've really gotta try and take deep(er) dive into Warband. I picked it up through GOG ages ago, and even installed the game, but I've never done more than dink around a little with it. I found the combat mechanics a bit clunky, but I suspect that was more my own fault than the game's.
Quote from: Martok on June 28, 2020, 07:17:55 PM
I've really gotta try and take deep(er) dive into Warband. I picked it up through GOG ages ago, and even installed the game, but I've never done more than dink around a little with it. I found the combat mechanics a bit clunky, but I suspect that was more my own fault than the game's.
If you are going to take a look back at Warband, I recommend the "Viking Conquest" DLC. The game goes back to the period around 800AD and centers on a fictional Britain with parts of Europe sprinkled in (think Alfred the Great and the Netflix show "The Last Kingdom"). The DLC has some very well fleshed out story lines.
Also honorable mention should go to the "Napoleonic Wars DLC." This is basically multiplayer only. However, one mode, the "Battle" mode is unique because each player commands a unit of about 20 - 30 "bots" who act as your unit. So you can command a group of cavalry, infantry or artillery. Its not one on one combat. As officer, you get your troops into line and link up with other units on your flanks. You then trade volleys with the enemy, smoke all around, your men falling around you. Then, the bayonet charge. It is the closest the gaming world has come to allowing your to command a Napoleonic unit in first person.
Both DLCs are available for a song during the Summer Sale.
With regard to combat in Warband, I never really became good at melee (despite 100s of hours). However, once I learned the lance and bow, I could have real effect on the battlefield. I am comfortably able to do some "hit and run". Sit outside the enemy formation, take down a few guys with arrows, then charge with a lance. But if they ever take out my horse close to their formation, or manage to box me in, I am toast.
But the "art" of the game is to have your "bots" fight the battle anyway. So my technique is less about me than commanding the bots. The critical thing for me is to never leave my horse. Mobility is critical as commander. In fact, if your horse is shot out from under you, find another one quickly (there are usually some wandering around the battlefield after their riders have been knocked off).
Most enemy formations in Warband will attack you...even at terrible odds for them. In this case, a good defensive formation works great. I found the best way to put troops into a formation was to use the segment commands (ie. giving commands to just "archers" or just "infantry"), then issue a "follow me" command, and finally ride to a low hill or slope where you want them to defend and then give "defend here". Then move to the next spot for the next group. In that way you can put together some nice defensive formations; for example, putting your infantry lower on a slope in front of the archers so the archers can fire, while the infantry defends. Then, if I have cavalry, I usually have them "follow me" and go to harass the enemies flanks, or attack their archers. The key here, is to spend the few minutes before the enemy arrives doing an assessment of the terrain and then setting up your troops.
The above does not work as well for enemies who refuse to budge and not attack. For those, I found that putting my archers and infantry in defense, while hitting the enemy with cavalry and retreating immediately will get them to break formation and follow your cavalry back to your defensive line. But not always. Sometimes you just have to attack. and the interface does not offer as many options. Still I try to use the techniques above to get the troops into ready positions, then issue charge commands.
(FYI in Bannerlord the interface to give commands is much nicer and smoother. and you can easily accomplish some fairly complex battle plans)
Thanks,
ArizonaTank. I'm admittedly not to the point yet where I need to worry about group tactics (gotta get a handle on personal combat first), but I'll keep the tips in mind for when I do. :notworthy:
Quote from: ArizonaTank on June 29, 2020, 09:04:58 AM
(FYI in Bannerlord the interface to give commands is much nicer and smoother. and you can easily accomplish some fairly complex battle plans)
Yeah, I've noticed that in a few LP/preview videos. Definitely something to look forward to!
Hey fellas. Still on the fence with this game; I see it's still in EA. Any of you guys playing it currently and, if so, what's the verdict?
On sale for $40 on Steam during the sale.
Quote from: Toonces on January 03, 2022, 07:34:12 PM
Hey fellas. Still on the fence with this game; I see it's still in EA. Any of you guys playing it currently and, if so, what's the verdict?
On sale for $40 on Steam during the sale.
I just started playing again this past week after a long break. It's very good. If you liked the original title you should like this one too.
I got my son hooked on Warband with the POP mod back in the day and he couldn't wait to get this when it first came out. He absolutely loves it. I have spent countless hours with the previous iterations myself and keep getting convinced by the Steam reviews to wait. I think a big part of me holding off is them charging full price for EA and taking so long to get it up to speed. It will be 2 years in April since its release and it's still unfinished. That's just my gripes. My son is satisfied with where it's at and thinks I should buy it because it's so much better than Warband even with no mods. If I didn't have other games I need to start playing I would have bought it this sale.
Great game. Much better on all levels than MB Warband. Although technically still in "early access", the game is pretty much all there and I have not seen any bugs recently.
Was just playing over the holidays and have about 80 hours on the clock.
I am not a great twitch jockey, so I usually set combat difficulty to something more comfortable than stock (how much damage the bad guys do mostly).
If you haven't experienced the Mount & Blade series, there is really nothing else like it. The only first-person game where you can lead a heavy cavalry unit charge against a shield wall across an open field. Or, set up your army across the field from a rival lord, waiting for the right moment to order the advance. Or, hold your castle walls against an oncoming siege tower.
Are the siege battles improved from Warband? Those battles were an absolute nightmare in the vanilla game.
I played a lot of Warband, but mostly in MP.
Thanks, Sparhawk. I think that you and Jarhead have convinced me to part with a few hard-earned gold pieces.
Good moment to jump in. But use the 1.7 beta version.
It has some great siege features; siege towers and ladders will be used properly.
And it has the long awaited 'dynamic terrain system' of whatever they call it.
It translates the position of your army on the world map to a similar battlefield map. So for example, if your tactic was to choke an enemy army near a river on a bridge, the battle should now reflect that.
I've started playing again this week and its been an absolute blast so far! Excellent game, though rather slow to start and get to the fun stuff of commanding armies with better gear. It takes a while to get there.
How many hours does it take to get there?
Quote from: Yskonyn on January 04, 2022, 11:23:40 AM
...Excellent game, though rather slow to start and get to the fun stuff of commanding armies with better gear. It takes a while to get there.
I agree, it can be somewhat "grindy" at times early game. Mostly as you run around building your band and crushing the various types of bandit gangs that inhabit the land.
My usual path goes something like the below. I have never timed it, but I guess it usually takes me four or five hours of gameplay.
1. Immediately recruit 7 - 10 peasant recruits in local villages. Run around taking on small bandit groups...but running from larger ones. Take and sell everything you take off the battlefield and ransom anyone you take alive. Rinse and repeat about 10 - 20 times (the grindy part). I usually have the computer do auto-battles when the enemy group is small enough...just to save time.
2. As your troops gain experience in this process, upgrade them. Add more recruits and replace the dead as needed. Get up to your maximum number of guys based on your leadership level.
3. After about 20 battles or so, start looking at more professional troops to hire. Look at adding an NPC or two to increase your party skills. If you have any extra money, start upgrading your personal gear.
4. Start ingratiating yourself to one of the factions. I usually do this by catching up with some of the lords, introducing myself, taking some of their quests, and volunteering my band as hire swords.
5. Once you are with a faction, the game starts to open up. When your faction is at war, attack the enemies by raiding their villages, stomping on their caravans, and picking off their lesser lords who go foolishly about their lands with only a small escort. This step gets some real wealth. You can start to afford some of the better troops and gear.
6. At some point, your exploits will get you enough attention in your faction. Then you can ask the leader to join permanently and become a lord. One you are there, you start to lead armies, get your own fief, and start your climb up the ladder...
I am certain there are many variations of the above...but that is what has been working for me.
Quote from: Gusington on January 04, 2022, 11:41:11 AM
How many hours does it take to get there?
In Warband it really depended a lot on your knowledge of the game and a bit on luck. If you know exactly how you want to build your army and which king you want to pledge allegiance to, I'd say you can get rolling in 3-ish hours with a mid-sized band of A$$-kickers and some decent weapons and armor. If you lose a battle or the kingdom you're fighting for gets stomped in a war, your progress can get hampered pretty badly though, and early on in the game there's very little you can do to change the outcome of wars before you rise in the ranks a bit and gain valor.
Starting up is made harder as well by the fact that for every major version increase Taleworlds suggests to start a new game to incorporate the fixes and prevent weird issues from arising.
Normally with these kind of games I play through the first phases of the game and then save a 'baseline' savegame that I backup several times so that I can always 'quickstart' a new playthrough.
It works in between major versions still, but patching is quite frequently.
If you don't want that another option is to stay on the stable build, but you'll not have some nice overall improvements to gameplay at this point in time.
In that case I'd suggest waiting until 1.7 hits stable.
Thanks guys. IIRC I bought Bannerlord at the beginning of COVID (2 years ago) but have been waiting for a good time to finally start a campaign, never having played a M&B game before.
Ugh. I totally forgot to buy this yesterday.
Guess I'll have to wait on another sale.
Warband kicks my ass. I've never gotten very far in building an army.
Quote from: Toonces on January 05, 2022, 05:32:31 PM
Ugh. I totally forgot to buy this yesterday.
Guess I'll have to wait on another sale.
Warband kicks my ass. I've never gotten very far in building an army.
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Quote from: Toonces on January 05, 2022, 05:32:31 PM
Ugh. I totally forgot to buy this yesterday.
Guess I'll have to wait on another sale.
Warband kicks my ass. I've never gotten very far in building an army.
I've played a lot of Warband and M&B original - I remember an epic battle against the Khergits, lasted for nearly 45 minutes. ON HORSE! I did okay in Warband, I managed to get to some degree with some soldiers. It's a lot of grind though. Training them. But it was fun. I might have to revisit that.
1.7.0 hit stable branch today.
Great time to get started with Bannerlord IMO.
Too much to play! Too many choices!!
I put a shit-ton of hours into this over the weekend. I now have a castle and a couple of settlements in my fief, a wife, and a small, but formidable veteran army of over 100 soldiers. I've sworn allegiance to Garios of the Western Empire. He is a general and claimant to the throne of the Calradic Empire. At one point, I had been awarded a second castle and fiefdom, but I had to restart due to a complete disaster in battle. There have been a couple times I've been cornered by much larger armies and had to restart with prior saves.
In any event. Really good game in its current state. Can certainly be fleshed out more...particularly at the strategic level. There just isn't that much to do other than wage war. Would be really nice if internal and external diplomacy was much more detailed. There is so much potential there with all the nobles and characters with differing interests and influence, all jockeying for power. I also find the military command interface in battle confusing. I need to really master that once and for all, then I'll be pretty fearless.
Time to reinstall! \m/
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on January 17, 2022, 09:06:25 AM
.... I also find the military command interface in battle confusing. I need to really master that once and for all, then I'll be pretty fearless.
The new patch changed the battle interface quite a bit. I was pretty proficient the old way...now its a bit nerfed for me... I am sure I'll figure out the new way...but somewhat frustrated with the "new" changes.
What ever happened to that mod that was suppose to link ckiiii with banner lord ? If that ever releases this will be next level.
^I forgot all about that!
I see other nobles "raising armies" of hundreds of troops. Is it possible for the player to do this? If so, how?
I'm now a pretty wealthy warlord. I have three fiefs with three very strategic castles defending the frontier. I have influence second only to the Emperor of the Western Empire, yet I can only maintain a party of 110 men. Stewardship skills tend to increase this capacity by only a handful of men at a time and it takes forever to increase this skill. There must be some other way to form larger parties and command more powerful armies. I've thought about possibly trying to get companions to form separate parties who could then possibly be commanded. Is this possible?
Thanks.
I haven't played myself yet, but from what I've seen you do call your nobles together into a warparty.
By nobles i mean other lords you have invited into your kingdom. Yes you can give a army to your companions too
But the simplest way seem to be to recruit friendly lords instead.
The game has just come out of early access, whatever that really means.
I'm sitting on the fence trying to decide whether to buy it now, or wait six to nine months for a decent sale.
Any thoughts from those who have played Bannerlord and Warband on whether the hefty price tag is justified ?
From what I've seen I like the visuals, but when I think about my Warband experiences I really hated the way the AI moved troops around on the attack (everybody streaming after the leader -- which kills the immersion and is too easy to defeat) and I found the conceit of the arenas really annoying.
I'm hoping the AI has gotten better at moving troops around the battlefield, but I'm resigned to having to put up with the arenas because I had the impression they were very popular.
Waiting nine months is a real option because I've already got more games than I'll probably ever get around to playing, and I have a ton of modding to do (even though I keep putting it off by telling myself that I'm on strike).
I suspect that the real reason I will ultimately get Bannerlord is for the mods that will eventually run off of it. But those mods are probably a year or two out.
Quote from: Philippe on October 26, 2022, 09:47:33 AM
The game has just come out of early access, whatever that really means.
I'm sitting on the fence trying to decide whether to buy it now, or wait six to nine months for a decent sale.
Any thoughts from those who have played Bannerlord and Warband on whether the hefty price tag is justified ?
From what I've seen I like the visuals, but when I think about my Warband experiences I really hated the way the AI moved troops around on the attack (everybody streaming after the leader -- which kills the immersion and is too easy to defeat) and I found the conceit of the arenas really annoying.
I'm hoping the AI has gotten better at moving troops around the battlefield, but I'm resigned to having to put up with the arenas because I had the impression they were very popular.
Waiting nine months is a real option because I've already got more games than I'll probably ever get around to playing, and I have a ton of modding to do (even though I keep putting it off by telling myself that I'm on strike).
I suspect that the real reason I will ultimately get Bannerlord is for the mods that will eventually run off of it. But those mods are probably a year or two out.
I think it is fantastic. I have 35 hours into it and I feel like I've really only just scratched the surface.
I think Bannerlord is the best of the lot. I really couldn't see going back.
AI is better, but still has a quirk or two.
Combat is more immersive IMHO. Giving commands is easier and you have more options.
The game has more immersion when it comes to becoming one of the nobles.
Still, if the price bothers you...wait. The older games are still pretty damn good.
Fortunately, now that Bannerlord has been solidly released, a remake of the original Witcher game is being developed by CDK.
....wait, that may not really be relevant in this thread... :))
(Except for ironically unexpected joke purposes.)
So, I'm not really into these sorts of games but I read that there is a mod for this in the works (Kingdom of Arda...big middle earth mod) and this has really peeked my interest. Upon more googling I guess the same person(s) did a Kingdom of Arda mod for the original game.
I watched a couple intro youtube videos for Bannerlord 2 and wowsers...learning curve up the keester. But, damn...this game looks amazing. I might grab it on sale. Gives me time to learn the mechanics of the game before they make the middle earth mod ;D
Quote from: acctingman on October 27, 2022, 03:58:39 PM
So, I'm not really into these sorts of games but I read that there is a mod for this in the works (Kingdom of Arda...big middle earth mod) and this has really peeked my interest. Upon more googling I guess the same person(s) did a Kingdom of Arda mod for the original game.
I watched a couple intro youtube videos for Bannerlord 2 and wowsers...learning curve up the keester. But, damn...this game looks amazing. I might grab it on sale. Gives me time to learn the mechanics of the game before they make the middle earth mod ;D
Mount and Blade Warband is on sale now for the price of a fancy cup of coffee. I highly recommend it if you think you just might be interested but aren't sure.
M&B series are deep games, but they are really great in the 'play and learn mode'...actually, the best way to play. So don't worry about the 'learning curve.' Just play.
One of the other great things about the series is that all of the games are easy on folks like me who aren't really good twitch jockeys. I can fine tune difficulty to the extent that I feel like a warrior and not a spoon-fed ham-fist. Even though I really am a spoon-fed ham-fist. Of course, for those out there who are true wonders of nature when it comes to reaction time, the game has modes for you as well.
Quote from: ArizonaTank on October 27, 2022, 05:31:09 PM
Quote from: acctingman on October 27, 2022, 03:58:39 PM
So, I'm not really into these sorts of games but I read that there is a mod for this in the works (Kingdom of Arda...big middle earth mod) and this has really peeked my interest. Upon more googling I guess the same person(s) did a Kingdom of Arda mod for the original game.
I watched a couple intro youtube videos for Bannerlord 2 and wowsers...learning curve up the keester. But, damn...this game looks amazing. I might grab it on sale. Gives me time to learn the mechanics of the game before they make the middle earth mod ;D
Mount and Blade Warband is on sale now for the price of a fancy cup of coffee. I highly recommend it if you think you just might be interested but aren't sure.
M&B series are deep games, but they are really great in the 'play and learn mode'...actually, the best way to play. So don't worry about the 'learning curve.' Just play.
One of the other great things about the series is that all of the games are easy on folks like me who aren't really good twitch jockeys. I can fine tune difficulty to the extent that I feel like a warrior and not a spoon-fed ham-fist. Even though I really am a spoon-fed ham-fist. Of course, for those out there who are true wonders of nature when it comes to reaction time, the game has modes for you as well.
Thanks for the comments AT. I might just pick up Warband and give it a spin.
Warband and the original Mount and Blade also have a lot of great mods if you can get them to work, like 1886 for original M&B and the Game of Thrones mod for Warband
Definitely gonna reinstall Bannerlord and give it a shot not that it's in 1.0 state.
I still have the With Fire and Sword (historical Poland) semi-official mod for one of those games. Not sure I ever got it to work well...
Quote from: JasonPratt on October 27, 2022, 08:44:25 PM
I still have the With Fire and Sword (historical Poland) semi-official mod for one of those games. Not sure I ever got it to work well...
With Fire and Sword is great...and is a fully supported stand alone "expansion." It is $2.50 on sale now...
The only place in game land where you can lead first person winged hussar charges.
^Was just gonna post that about the Polish winged hussars!
Bought this game, downloaded all 50GB of it. Oof. It is early but so far plays surprisingly smooth on my ancient computer. This game may just break me of my Shadow Empire habit. Maybe.
So, I've been watching some tips/how to videos on this game and it looks amazing. I've never played a game like this so it looks a little daunting, but damn....there is so much to do!!
Question - how twitchy is the hand to hand combat? I dislike (aka, I suck at them) games where you have to swing left, double click right, shake your ass to get the proper swing in. The learning curve seems high, but it also looks like there is an "easy" mode for me to use to learn the game.
How are people liking it so far?
Quote from: acctingman on October 30, 2022, 03:08:05 PM
So, I've been watching some tips/how to videos on this game and it looks amazing. I've never played a game like this so it looks a little daunting, but damn....there is so much to do!!
Question - how twitchy is the hand to hand combat? I dislike (aka, I suck at them) games where you have to swing left, double click right, shake your ass to get the proper swing in. The learning curve seems high, but it also looks like there is an "easy" mode for me to use to learn the game.
How are people liking it so far?
It's not too twichy IMHO. However, some tasks take a little practice...like hitting an infantryman with a sword from a horse.
I recommend you start with bows at first. They are pretty easy to get the hang of.
Also, I strongly recommend you turn down the difficulty. You can set it so that you can't be killed in combat, also so that you take only 25% of damage (ie. a sword hit on you does only 25% of the damage it might have otherwise done). That will help you alot. Also, while you are learning, you might want to set it up so that your men also take less damage.
Sword fighting is not too difficult. Get a shield, and when you see the enemy move to strike you, right click to block it. Then attack with left click. You will quickly get the hang of it.
One way to practice using weapons from horse is to wait until the enemy breaks in a battle (usually you are fighting looters in the early game, and they break pretty easily). Don't exit the battle right away. Instead, run down the looters. They won't attack back, and they make good targets. If you are having trouble finding the running looters, give your men a charge order, and they will start running in the direction of the escaping looters.
Fight in the arena as often as you can. This will help you hone your fighting skills on foot and also on horseback. If you fail there it is no problem. If you win the tournament you get prizes which are worth a lot of money or things you can use for the betterment of your character.
Start with the bow on horseback. it will help you fight the looters and even up those fights you get into at first.
The game gets easier as your group grows.