Paulo Paglianti at Slitherine has kindly donated 10 Steam codes of Strategic Command Classic so we can have a competition.
Having discussed the idea with Brant and Gus, we are thinking over the best way to run it. Brant's idea was best in our opinion, and is as follows:
We do 2 groups of 5
Everyone plays everyone in the group, so everyone gets at least 4 games
2 points for a win, 1 for a draw
Highest points in each group goes on to final
Second highest in each group play for 3rd place
Third highest for 5th, etc
If the final ends in a tie, they switch sides and play again.
We need to figure out how long we give folks for each of the group matches to get done. 3 days? 5 days? Can't make it too long, b/c with 5-many groups, someone is sitting out each time they change dance partners.
I personally think 5 days is best as a long stop in case people have real life issues impacting, but otherwise agree with the three days as a "target". If you're interested then please let us know what you think.
But if we do it as a group play first, instead of straight knock-out rounds, then everyone gets 5 games - 4 in group play plus the 1 in the final standings round.
We are looking for 10 players, although we can accommodate more if the interest is there. If you already have the game, that's fine, you can participate, and if you need a Steam code to play in the competition then PM me, and I can send it out to you just before we start. However, I have only 10 codes, and when they are gone, they are gone...
So if you're interested, add your name below and we can start organising this.
There are 3 versions of Strategic Command Classic... WWI, WWII and Global Conflict. Forgive my ignorance if I missed something but which one are we talking about?
Quote from: Millipede on May 08, 2018, 04:50:01 PM
There are 3 versions of Strategic Command Classic... WWI, WWII and Global Conflict. Forgive my ignorance if I missed something but which one are we talking about?
You're right! I should have said. :-"
It's SC WW2.
Yes, but even WW2 has Pacific Theater, Patton Drives East, and Weapons and Warfare. :P
Quote from: bbmike on May 08, 2018, 06:46:01 PM
Yes, but even WW2 has Pacific Theater, Patton Drives East, and Weapons and Warfare. :P
Not absolutely positive about this but I think that all the expansions apply to the original Battlefront release but aren't available (yet?) with the Matrix/Slitherine reboot.
My mistake! Just checked the Matrix website and they're all included in the reboot.
So Millipede has signed up. Will his thousand feet stomp all comers? ;)
So Roll up, roll up! Who will give Millipede a run for his money?
I have 9 freebie Steam codes left.
Sounds like fun - count me in!
I have played a LOT of SC so count me in!
I cannot even begin to figure out how to play a mp campaign of this game in only five days! :D
Quote from: JasonPratt on May 09, 2018, 01:57:43 PM
I cannot even begin to figure out how to play a mp campaign of this game in only five days! :D
I suspect that the various scenarios will come into play. There are a bunch included from the Pacific and ETO... Guadalcanal, Market Garden, Peleliu, D-Day etc.
Quote from: Boggit on May 08, 2018, 03:41:44 AM
Paulo Paglianti at Slitherine has kindly donated 10 Steam codes of Strategic Command Classic so we can have a competition.
Having discussed the idea with Brant and Gus, we are thinking over the best way to run it. Brant's idea was best in our opinion, and is as follows:
Thanks :)
On behalf of Slitherine/Matrix Games, good luck to any participant to this contest - let us know if you like the game!
cheers
Paolo P.
In my passive-aggressive way, I'd be interested in the competition. O0
I'd be interested but no way I could do that turn rate. Have fun for guys that play.
So, we are here at the moment, we have signed up...
Round 1
Millipede
Shelldrake
Iudi1867
@Everyone
The return rate is not hardcoded into the competition, in organising this we don't want to bog down the game, but at the same time don't want to be stressing out players over return rates, since the most important thing about this competition is for you guys to have fun.
If you think that a completion rate of 5 days for a challenge is unreasonable, then say what is a better one and we can run with that if that is the general consensus of the players involved. I'd much rather everyone was happy with the time they have for their games, at the same time having regard to the fact that it is undesirable to have people waiting around for an opponent excessively. So, give us a reasonable time to complete games as a ballpark figure, and if most of you are happy with it we can run with that.
And by the way I have 8 more steam codes for the game, so if you like the idea of the competition and need a code let me know.
@Nelmsm, bbmike, JasonPratt
If you guys are now on board, let me know if you need a Steam code. O0
Okay I'll give it a go. I'll need a Steam key.
I probably need a steam code (do not have the game on steam yet)
Quote from: nelmsm on May 11, 2018, 04:35:22 PM
Okay I'll give it a go. I'll need a Steam key.
Check your PM. Good luck! :)
Quote from: ludi1867 on May 11, 2018, 06:10:30 PM
I probably need a steam code (do not have the game on steam yet)
Check your PM. Good luck in the competition. :)
6 Steam codes are left.
@JasonPratt, bbmike - are you in, and do you need a key?
Sadly, no. Too much going on right now and Origins is only a month away! :D
I'm in.
Hit me with a key please.
I never played SC before but I am interested! I have some serious wargaming vibe going on lately on the tabletop and I have dived into TOAW 4 and CO2 seriously, so SC2 seems like a good fit and doing that in a tournament fashion is even more excitinf!
Can I get some prep time to get used to the game if I make it in?
About the return rate: do we need to finish the scenario in 5 days or do we return a turn every 5 days max, or 3 days preferably?
Quote from: Cyrano on May 13, 2018, 01:24:03 PM
I'm in.
Hit me with a key please.
Cyrano, check your PM. Ignore the first one - as I sent you the one sent to Iudi1867 in error. I have since sent you a new code that should work for you.
Have fun!
Quote from: Yskonyn on May 13, 2018, 02:43:18 PM
I never played SC before but I am interested! I have some serious wargaming vibe going on lately on the tabletop and I have dived into TOAW 4 and CO2 seriously, so SC2 seems like a good fit and doing that in a tournament fashion is even more excitinf!
Can I get some prep time to get used to the game if I make it in?
About the return rate: do we need to finish the scenario in 5 days or do we return a turn every 5 days max, or 3 days preferably?
I have four codes left, so I'm leaving the formal start till around this time next week to gain a few more players.
I've sent you a code, so by all means jump in and have a play around with it.
As to the return rate, I'm happy with what the consensus of players suggest. I think pushing out any of the larger scenarios will be a struggle in 5 days, and I don't want anyone stressing out over their games, so I hope we'll have a good idea of what people think is a reasonable time to complete their scenario over the next week, and we can loosely apply it +/- a few days if people are struggling to complete. This competition is about having fun, not worrying about getting finished too quick, hence I want to know what the players consider reasonable so we have a consensus before we start.
Four codes left to go...
Flare to JasonPratt, Panzerde, as I think you'd like the game, and indeed anyone else who might like to join in. :hug:
Having just finished out one of my big mp games, sure, I'm in. :)
(One thing I had to do was ensure I don't already have SC classic in its original BF form, but I'm sure I don't -- I have WW1 Breakthru, which includes an updated version of SC Classic in effect, but that isn't the same thing. I've also got SCWW2, the new one, already.)
How are we going to choose smaller missions and sides?
I would be interested in joining the Strategic Command game if it is not too late. I don't own it on Steam, so will take a code, or can purchase.
Quote from: JasonPratt on May 13, 2018, 10:05:21 PM
Having just finished out one of my big mp games, sure, I'm in. :)
(One thing I had to do was ensure I don't already have SC classic in its original BF form, but I'm sure I don't -- I have WW1 Breakthru, which includes an updated version of SC Classic in effect, but that isn't the same thing. I've also got SCWW2, the new one, already.)
No worries, you're in. Check your PM! :)
I have 3 Steam codes left now.
Quote from: Ethel the Frog on May 15, 2018, 11:57:11 AM
I would be interested in joining the Strategic Command game if it is not too late. I don't own it on Steam, so will take a code, or can purchase.
You're in. Check your PM for the code. O0
2 codes left guys! \m/
Quote from: JasonPratt on May 13, 2018, 10:05:48 PM
How are we going to choose smaller missions and sides?
Good question.
At the moment I'm inclined for everyone to play the largest scenario first, then winding down through the smaller scenarios towards the final. That way everyone gets over their learning curve early on, and as the competition progresses the scenarios become more intense as the leeway on making mistakes gets progressively smaller. Of course, I'm open to suggestions, particularly where it reflects the consensus of the competitors.
I also think we should be starting on the 1st June for a couple of reasons...
1) Some of you have asked about having a bit of time to get to know the game before starting; and
2) One of you is away on vacation late May and really is keen to be in the competition
All in all, we are talking of 13 days till the start. Given the points already raised, it seems reasonable to me to cut some slack on the start. In any event, we may yet have a couple more competitors - as it stands we have... in no particular order
Millipede
Cyrano
Ethel the Frog
JasonPratt
Yskonyn
Shelldrake
Iudi1867
Nelmsm
So to resume my answer to you as to sides - either:
1) Pick an opponent and side as between yourselves, then the winner assume the other side in the next round; or
2) We can split the starting number of players into an Axis side and an Allied side and play off between the two sides with a nominated opponent
I can see a potential problem with 1) if all the winners are on the Axis/Allied side, but we can handle for the second round arbitrarily if that happens.
At present I'm tempted to go for option 2) and give y'all an opponent >:D, but it doesn't have to be if you guys prefer 1). If anyone has a better mousetrap sing out, as we have time to settle these issues now before the start date.
And I have 2 more Steam codes if anyone else wants to join in. O0
Note: Avast has flagged the executable for Patton Drives East, and put it in the special hell or something. I'm reverifying the file from Steam and trying again. (It loaded fine, Avast just did this after I quit to go look at scenarios in the Pacific.)
QuoteAt the moment I'm inclined for everyone to play the largest scenario first, then winding down through the smaller scenarios towards the final.
What are the relative scenario sizes, in order? Are any balanced, or any unbalanced? The descriptions are quite unclear so far.
Avast still hates Patton driving east. :P Restarting again.
Quote from: Boggit on May 16, 2018, 07:38:34 PM
So to resume my answer to you as to sides - either:
1) Pick an opponent and side as between yourselves, then the winner assume the other side in the next round; or
2) We can split the starting number of players into an Axis side and an Allied side and play off between the two sides with a nominated opponent
I don't have any better ideas and I don't have a
strong preference but I do lean slightly towards option 2.
Quote from: JasonPratt on May 16, 2018, 08:04:42 PM
Note: Avast has flagged the executable for Patton Drives East, and put it in the special hell or something. I'm reverifying the file from Steam and trying again. (It loaded fine, Avast just did this after I quit to go look at scenarios in the Pacific.)
QuoteAt the moment I'm inclined for everyone to play the largest scenario first, then winding down through the smaller scenarios towards the final.
What are the relative scenario sizes, in order? Are any balanced, or any unbalanced? The descriptions are quite unclear so far.
To be fair, I'm not holding myself out as an expert on the game. I've played a lot of the WW1 game, and some SCWW2 and have found scenarios reasonably balanced as a single player game. There is a grand campaign game, and shorter variants based on the start date.
Yeah, but I'm assuming we aren't talking about shorter grand campaigns based on start date. We're talking about the scenarios (which show up as a slightly different color of yellow in the lists. ;) )
I guess I'll have to look into that.
Meanwhile, despite all my efforts last night, including giving the executable an exclusion from within Avast at least twice(!), Avast still hates the Patton Drives East executable and randomly warns me about it asking what I should do. At least Avast isn't automatically dumping it into the virus chest anymore! I've never seen Avast go so psycho-girlfriend about something Avast itself calls a generic threat. I'm starting to wonder if there's fire with that smoke...
Quote from: JasonPratt on May 17, 2018, 07:11:32 AM
Yeah, but I'm assuming we aren't talking about shorter grand campaigns based on start date. We're talking about the scenarios (which show up as a slightly different color of yellow in the lists. ;) )
I guess I'll have to look into that.
Meanwhile, despite all my efforts last night, including giving the executable an exclusion from within Avast at least twice(!), Avast still hates the Patton Drives East executable and randomly warns me about it asking what I should do. At least Avast isn't automatically dumping it into the virus chest anymore! I've never seen Avast go so psycho-girlfriend about something Avast itself calls a generic threat. I'm starting to wonder if there's fire with that smoke...
If it is of any comfort, I get a lot of stupid crap from Norton 360's over aggressive heuristic checks with perfectly legitimate games. Best thing is to go into security and give a pass/approve to the game knowing that it is from a perfectly legitimate source and the internet protection software is going through a psychotic episode.
Let me have another look at the game and I'll come back to you with the details on the games to be played out in each round.
Here is a suggestion for the scenarios and the order they are played. I'm open to ideas, so if you hate the line up then suggest something better before we get fixed for the competition start....
Based on the 8 players we have already we can either do a sudden death with losers dropping out after a round, or everyone plays all three rounds getting a point for each victory level above a draw, or losing a point for each level of loss with the winner on the highest total. In the event of a tie we can do a sudden death round 4.
Round 1
Weapons and Warfare - 1941-45 Battle for Russia
Axis
Millipede
Cyrano
Ethel the Frog
JasonPratt
Soviet
Yskonyn
Shelldrake
Iudi1867
Nelmsm
Round 2
Patton Drives East - Stalin Drives West
Soviet
Millipede
Cyrano
Ethel the Frog
JasonPratt
Allies
Yskonyn
Shelldrake
Iudi1867
Nelmsm
Round 3
Pacific Theater - 1944-45 Philippines
Allies
Millipede
Cyrano
Shelldrake
Nelmsm
Imperial Japan
Yskonyn
Ethel the Frog
JasonPratt
Iudi1867
Let me know your views. :)
And just to remind everyone not yet signed up - I still have 2 Steam codes left. There is room for more!
I like the idea of everyone playing all rounds and getting points for victory levels
Despite an update to the beta (these are beta codes, btw), and an update to Avast, Avast actually hates this game even more if that was possible. :buck2:
Someone else may have to study the scenarios to figure out turns and relative force compositions for balance.
Quote from: nelmsm on May 18, 2018, 10:39:07 PM
I like the idea of everyone playing all rounds and getting points for victory levels
Same here
Quote from: Yskonyn on May 19, 2018, 05:39:23 AM
Quote from: Millipede on May 19, 2018, 12:08:51 AM
Quote from: nelmsm on May 18, 2018, 10:39:07 PM
I like the idea of everyone playing all rounds and getting points for victory levels
Same here
+1
3/8 declaring in favour.
If we see no surge against this from the rest over the next couple of days, this is what we'll do. O0
I might agree with it, but I don't know what it means. ??? Am I supposed to play Round 1 against everyone from the Soviet side? (And the whole five year Soviet campaign four times, once against each Soviet player? That's going to take a while, even for one match!)
Quote from: Boggit on May 18, 2018, 09:32:51 AM
Quote from: JasonPratt on May 17, 2018, 07:11:32 AM
Meanwhile, despite all my efforts last night, including giving the executable an exclusion from within Avast at least twice(!), Avast still hates the Patton Drives East executable and randomly warns me about it asking what I should do. At least Avast isn't automatically dumping it into the virus chest anymore! I've never seen Avast go so psycho-girlfriend about something Avast itself calls a generic threat. I'm starting to wonder if there's fire with that smoke...
If it is of any comfort, I get a lot of stupid crap from Norton 360's over aggressive heuristic checks with perfectly legitimate games. Best thing is to go into security and give a pass/approve to the game knowing that it is from a perfectly legitimate source and the internet protection software is going through a psychotic episode.
I agree, which is why I kept trying that and Avast was
still spazzing out! I've never seen anything like it.
It's only affecting PDE for some reason (...I think, if I recall correctly, certainly not Weaps, I don't think Pac either). Worst case scenario, I just won't play a scenario from that group.
Actually, now that I think of it, Avast started griefing me over the autoplay front-end, too, after the mutual updates. :buck2: I may try turning Avast off temporarily while I play it.
I am definately NOT playing the scenarios 4 times. That will be far too much to ask imo.
Quote from: JasonPratt on May 20, 2018, 12:50:54 PM
I might agree with it, but I don't know what it means. ??? Am I supposed to play Round 1 against everyone from the Soviet side? (And the whole five year Soviet campaign four times, once against each Soviet player? That's going to take a while, even for one match!)
No. I haven't made myself clear.
You'd play one game with one person in the Soviet side (or Division 2 if you like).
Either you can mutually agree your opponent, or I can randomly allocate. Again we can do either depending on the general consensus.
The idea is that you play 3 scenarios total, with the highest score winning. Only in the case of a tie will there be another round (and a short scenario at that) to decide the winner.
Quote from: Yskonyn on May 20, 2018, 02:09:15 PM
I am definately NOT playing the scenarios 4 times. That will be far too much to ask imo.
I agree. Please see my reply to JasonPratt, which should set your mind at rest.
Let me know if you want to decide your opponent amongst yourselves, or whether I should allocate. I'm happy either way.
Quote from: JasonPratt on May 20, 2018, 12:55:14 PM
Quote from: Boggit on May 18, 2018, 09:32:51 AM
Quote from: JasonPratt on May 17, 2018, 07:11:32 AM
Meanwhile, despite all my efforts last night, including giving the executable an exclusion from within Avast at least twice(!), Avast still hates the Patton Drives East executable and randomly warns me about it asking what I should do. At least Avast isn't automatically dumping it into the virus chest anymore! I've never seen Avast go so psycho-girlfriend about something Avast itself calls a generic threat. I'm starting to wonder if there's fire with that smoke...
If it is of any comfort, I get a lot of stupid crap from Norton 360's over aggressive heuristic checks with perfectly legitimate games. Best thing is to go into security and give a pass/approve to the game knowing that it is from a perfectly legitimate source and the internet protection software is going through a psychotic episode.
I agree, which is why I kept trying that and Avast was still spazzing out! I've never seen anything like it.
It's only affecting PDE for some reason (...I think, if I recall correctly, certainly not Weaps, I don't think Pac either). Worst case scenario, I just won't play a scenario from that group.
Actually, now that I think of it, Avast started griefing me over the autoplay front-end, too, after the mutual updates. :buck2: I may try turning Avast off temporarily while I play it.
Can you try a turn or two on one of the smaller scenarios to check that it works ok for you. :)
Quote from: Boggit on May 20, 2018, 10:11:32 PM
Let me know if you want to decide your opponent amongst yourselves, or whether I should allocate. I'm happy either way.
You pick 'em or some sort of random thing works best for me.
Random is most fun. :)
I can allocate opponents randomly if that is the general wish.
I'll leave the question up for a couple more days to give everyone a fair chance to state their preference.
Definitely random
Random works for me too
Anguille has decided to join us, which means
I have one Steam code left.
Ideally I need one more player to even things up, so if anybody fancies pitching in that will be great.
If not we have to think up a way to accommodate Anguille. I can think of something, but another player would be optimal.
Well the people have spoken. Random opponent allocation it is. :bd:
I'll give it until the weekend to see if anyone wants to take me up on the last Steam code.
And on 1st June the gloves are off... Cry "Havoc" and let loose the Dogs of War! \m/
If I can't find a further opponent, and as we now have an odd number of people in the tournament, I am open to how we can resolve this.
My initial thoughts is to sound out a different volunteer to play (the opposite side this time) with the odd man out, and as a reward let them choose which game score they want to benefit from in the rankings. That is of the three volunteers - each may choose his best score in the round played.
e.g. Say Millipede volunteers for round 1. He plays his allocated opponent in round one, then swaps sides and plays another game. He then takes the highest score of the two games to carry forward in the competition.
To avoid this being really unfair to everyone, this will be mitigated by the fact that a volunteer can only benefit from one round in this way. Of course getting a draw in both games will not help you any, other than getting more experience with the game. ;D
Let me know what you think?
Thanks for the 'invite' Boggit but I just got way too much other stuff in my non-digital world to deal with right now. But I'll be following and watching with interest. O0
Boggit
I think that what you have proposed makes sense. I am willing to "volunteer" (if no one else is) to take a voluntary omission in one of the series....
I know I have not said much, but I have been reading all your replies with interest. My primary interest is only in playing the games!
Quote from: ludi1867 on May 24, 2018, 11:11:17 AM
Boggit
I think that what you have proposed makes sense. I am willing to "volunteer" (if no one else is) to take a voluntary omission in one of the series....
I know I have not said much, but I have been reading all your replies with interest. My primary interest is only in playing the games!
@Iudi1867
Firstly, thank you for pitching in (and selflessly too - thinking you'd miss out in one of the rounds). O0
I may not have made myself clear - you have no need to lose out on one of the series. You get your scenario variety AND get to play a scenario from a different perspective.
I need one volunteer per round, to play the other side to the scenario they are already playing in the round. i.e. With the Russia Campaign scenario you'd get to play both the Axis and the Soviets against two separate opponents in that round. You then take your best score of those two games to carry over to your total score.
Essentially for volunteering you get two bites at the cherry for a win, or a better win for more points, as you are helping resolve an issue for the competition.
I hope that we'll eventually get 3 separate volunteers in total so as not to skew the competition more than giving a minimal advantage to the volunteers.
But if we have just one volunteer :notworthy: then I think with the extra "work" involved, it behoves everyone else to up their game! ;)
I hope having clarified this I hope you are still on board. :smitten:
This is the line up so far. D-Day is 1st June (due to good weather in the channel! ;) ;D).
Round 1
Weapons and Warfare - 1941-45 Battle for Russia
Millipede (Axis) vs Nelmsm (Soviet)
Cyrano (Axis) vs Iudi1867 (Soviet)
Ethel the Frog (Axis) vs Yskonyn (Soviet)
Iudi1867 (Axis) vs Anguille (Soviet)
JasonPratt (Axis) vs Shelldrake (Soviet)
Round 2
Patton Drives East - Stalin Drives West
Millipede (Soviet) vs Iudi1867 (Allies)
Cyrano (Soviet) vs Shelldrake (Allies)
Ethel the Frog (Soviet) vs Nelmsm (Allies)
JasonPratt (Soviet) vs Yskonyn (Allies)
Anguille (Soviet) vs TBC (Volunteer needed please!)
Round 3
Pacific Theater - 1944-45 Philippines
Millipede (Allies) vs Ethel the Frog (Imperial Japan)
Cyrano (Allies) vs JasonPratt (Imperial Japan)
Shelldrake (Allies) vs Iudi1867 (Imperial Japan)
Nelmsm (Allies) vs Yskonyn (Imperial Japan)
TBC (Volunteer needed please!) vs Anguille (Imperial Japan)
NB I have one Steam Code left in the event we get another player. If not then please consider joining Iudi1867 as a volunteer to face off against Anguille. (You will get the best score of your two games to add to your total, so something to consider especially if you do badly in Round 1).
I have some good news for you. :bd:
Paolo at Slitherine is kindly donating a game (TBC) as prize for the winner.
Quote from: Boggit on May 25, 2018, 09:05:45 PM
I have some good news for you. :bd:
Paolo at Slitherine is kindly donating a game (TBC) as prize for the winner.
Nice! :)
That's cool!
Now that is cool!
Excellent!
(...I may have to donate my win, I own pretty much everything there already.)
(... ....keep that in mind when playing me, there could be a free game for you if you let me win enough people lose often enough.)
Quote from: Boggit on May 24, 2018, 08:37:19 PM
NB I have one Steam Code left in the event we get another player
If no one else is interested I'll give this a go. I have no experience with the game, so I'll be cannon-fodder, but this seems to be a good way for me to get into playing MP
Quote from: Father Ted on May 26, 2018, 04:40:23 PM
Quote from: Boggit on May 24, 2018, 08:37:19 PM
NB I have one Steam Code left in the event we get another player
If no one else is interested I'll give this a go. I have no experience with the game, so I'll be cannon-fodder, but this seems to be a good way for me to get into playing MP
You will have company in the cannon fodder category as I also have no experience with this particular game.
Quote from: Father Ted on May 26, 2018, 04:40:23 PM
Quote from: Boggit on May 24, 2018, 08:37:19 PM
NB I have one Steam Code left in the event we get another player
If no one else is interested I'll give this a go. I have no experience with the game, so I'll be cannon-fodder, but this seems to be a good way for me to get into playing MP
That's fine. I'll rejig the league a bit so you get a variety of opponents and situations. Check your PM for the code. :)
Now that Father Ted has joined us, this is the revised line up.
D-Day is 1st June, but we can delay to say Friday 4th June if any of you still need more practice? Let me know, otherwise 1st June it starts.
Round 1
Weapons and Warfare - 1941-45 Battle for Russia
Millipede (Axis) vs Nelmsm (Soviet)
Cyrano (Axis) vs Iudi1867 (Soviet)
Ethel the Frog (Axis) vs Yskonyn (Soviet)
Father Ted (Axis) vs Anguille (Soviet)
JasonPratt (Axis) vs Shelldrake (Soviet)
Round 2
Patton Drives East - Stalin Drives West
Millipede (Soviet) vs Iudi1867 (Allies)
Father Ted (Soviet) vs Shelldrake (Allies)
Ethel the Frog (Soviet) vs Nelmsm (Allies)
JasonPratt (Soviet) vs Yskonyn (Allies)
Anguille (Soviet) vs Cyrano (Allies)
Round 3
Pacific Theater - 1944-45 Philippines
Ethel the Frog (Allies) vs Father Ted (Imperial Japan)
Cyrano (Allies) vs JasonPratt (Imperial Japan)
Shelldrake (Allies) vs Iudi1867 (Imperial Japan)
Nelmsm (Allies) vs Yskonyn (Imperial Japan)
Anguille (Allies) vs Millipede (Imperial Japan)
I've mixed it about a bit, so you should get at least one game where you're on the strategic attack/defence, and should get a different opponent in each game... Good luck! \m/
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Hate to be that guy, but could we delay to the 4th? I literally only fired up the game for the first time today
Quote from: Father Ted on May 27, 2018, 01:57:01 PM
Hate to be that guy, but could we delay to the 4th? I literally only fired up the game for the first time today
Well no one seems upset about that. O0
The competition starts 4th June.
It's up to you guys, but I can see no reason why the games can't be played concurrently if that suits you better. Let me know your preferences. :)
No problems at all.
June 4 works for me - maybe by then I will have managed to beat the AI on beginner! :)
June 4th seems best to give a fair chance to all.
June 4th is fine by me, as well as concurrent play!
Fine. Start on the 4th, and let loose the Dogs of War!
Scoring for the competition is as follows:
Round 1
Weapons and Warfare - 1941-45 Battle for Russia
Victory = 3 points
Draw=2 points
Loss=1 point
Round 2
Patton Drives East - Stalin Drives West
Soviet Decisive Victory = 6 points
Soviet Major Victory = 5 points
Soviet Minor Victory = 4 points
Allied Major Victory = 5 points
Allied Minor Victory = 4 points
Draw = 2 points Soviet, 3 points Allied
Loss = 1 point
Round 3
Pacific Theater - 1944-45 Philippines
Japanese Major Victory = 5 points
Allied Major Victory = 5 points
Allied Minor Victory = 4 points
Draw = 2 points Allied, 3 Points Japanese
Loss 1 point
You will notice that on rounds 2 and 3 I have fudged the scoring a bit to reflect the fact that in Round 2 the Soviet can achieve a higher victory than the Allies, and in Round three the Allies can get a Minor victory (which the Japanese can't). To avoid the side with the potential benefit in scoring being advantaged without merit, I have compensated the other side with a better points gain for a draw, as a means of mitigating the differences.
Ideally you want to win all your games, so this weighting for a draw is an encouragement for the attacker to win, and preferably to get the best possible victory. For the defender, it means that getting a draw is a winning draw, but given that you are ultimately competing against everybody, you ideally want to win as good a victory as possible.
If someone has a better mousetrap, then now is the time to sing out. ::)
I had a very good point PM'd by Shelldrake... His question and my answer..
Quote from: Shelldrake on May 30, 2018, 02:14:13 PM
Are we expected to play rounds sequentially or concurrently? Just wondering about time commitment juggling.
Shell
It is entirely optional to suit. I mentioned concurrent play as a suggestion only, as it might be more convenient for players to have two or three games on at the same time.
Best,
Boggit
******************
I realise that everyone has a different situation, so just contact your opponent and work out which method works best for you both. When all the games are complete and the scores are in, we can tot them up and announce the winner and his prize.
When you complete a game post your victory and score, and I'll update the rankings as we go to keep things interesting.
The rankings format at the start will look like this...
Round 1
Weapons and Warfare - 1941-45 Battle for Russia
Millipede (Axis) = 0
Nelmsm (Soviet) =0
Cyrano (Axis) = 0
Iudi1867 (Soviet) = 0
Ethel the Frog (Axis) = 0
Yskonyn (Soviet) = 0
Father Ted (Axis) = 0
Anguille (Soviet) = 0
JasonPratt (Axis) = 0
Shelldrake (Soviet) = 0
Round 2
Patton Drives East - Stalin Drives WestMillipede (Soviet) = 0
Iudi1867 (Allies) = 0
Father Ted (Soviet) = 0
Shelldrake (Allies) = 0
Ethel the Frog (Soviet) = 0
Nelmsm (Allies) =0
JasonPratt (Soviet) = 0
Yskonyn (Allies) = 0
Cyrano (Allies) = 0
Anguille (Soviet) = 0
Round 3
Pacific Theater - 1944-45 PhilippinesEthel the Frog (Allies) = 0
Father Ted (Imperial Japan) = 0
Cyrano (Allies) = 0JasonPratt (Imperial Japan) = 0
Shelldrake (Allies) = 0
Iudi1867 (Imperial Japan) = 0
Nelmsm (Allies) =0
Yskonyn (Imperial Japan) = 0
Anguille (Allies) = 0
Millipede (Imperial Japan) = 0
Overall Score
Millipede = 0
Nelmsm =0
Cyrano = 0
Iudi1867 = 0
Ethel the Frog = 0
Yskonyn = 0
Father Ted = 0
Anguille = 0
JasonPratt = 0
Shelldrake = 0
Happy with my score - as the old footie joke goes, "It was 4-0, and we were lucky to get 0".
Quote from: Father Ted on May 31, 2018, 04:06:55 PM
Happy with my score - as the old footie joke goes, "It was 4-0, and we were lucky to get 0".
Wait 'til the shooting starts! :2funny: >:D
Vorwarts, Kamaradien! Nach Ost! {starts the Panzer Lied}
...or, uh, words to that effect. Overtime at work may be delaying my turns somewhat next week, we'll see. Excited to be gearing to go!
How does pbem work? Do i really have to manually send saves of the game? Are we in 2018 or still 2008? Am i missing Something?
Thanks
PBEM++ hasn't been implemented yet? I figured it would be when Matrix took over, so I haven't looked into it.
Quote from: Anguille on June 01, 2018, 04:29:21 PM
How does pbem work? Do i really have to manually send saves of the game? Are we in 2018 or still 2008? Am i missing Something?
Thanks
2008 I think. :2funny:
Save the game, send the file, or do whatever the game suggests. If in difficulty check with any of us, as I'm assuming none of us know how the pbem works until we play the game.
I'm sure that a man of your stalwart disposition and iron constitution will cope. ;)
The manual refers to PBEM++ does it not?
Quote from: Yskonyn on June 02, 2018, 01:50:33 PM
The manual refers to PBEM++ does it not?
I'm not sure what you mean by PBEM++. I've seen the term before, but I don't know precisely what it means. I can say that the multiplayer game relies on an exchange of emails with the game file saved as game_name.sav . Is that the same as PBEM++?
Neither the generic manual linked to the Game Select menu dropdown, nor the game specific manuals located in the Steam Library/Steamapps/Common/Strategic Command Classic WWII/Manuals make use of the term PBEM++ directly. Moreover, none of the manuals are very helpful for indicating where exactly you can find your save file to email to your opponent.
After my initial surprise with Anguille's post that there was an issue with multiplayer I am now grateful to both you and Anguille (who gets an apology) for making a very relevant point, which I hope will now be made clear.
I had to explore this to find out wth is actually going on with multiplayer...
This is what you do...
1. Start Multiplayer game (first turn of new game), or in the event of second player onwards download filename.sav from your email into Libraries/Documents/My Games/Strategic Command WW2 Classic - [game title]/Multiplayer/Email/ folder
2. Start Multiplayer game (once first player, first turn has finished)
3. Put in your password
4. Load Multiplayer game
3. Play out turn
4. End turn - you then get to name the save and email it to your opponent from the Libraries/Documents/My Games/Strategic Command WW2 Classic - [game title]/Multiplayer/Email/filename.sav
5. Quit game
Strictly you can continue past the opportunity to go to email within the game, and email the save file later. For me the key thing was actually locating where the bloody save file actually was saved! So if in doubt:
The location for the upload and download of the game file is
Libraries/Documents/My Games/Strategic Command WW2 Classic - [game title]/Multiplayer/Email/filename.sav
I hope that resolves any issues?
I can fully understand why the multiplayer aspect might have thrown a few of you. It did me to start with.
Thanks for that Boggit!
Quote from: Boggit on June 03, 2018, 05:27:39 AM
Quote from: Yskonyn on June 02, 2018, 01:50:33 PM
The manual refers to PBEM++ does it not?
I'm not sure what you mean by PBEM++. I've seen the term before, but I don't know precisely what it means.
It's a service for most Matrix/Slitherine games, where code within the game helps automate the sending, receiving, and operating of play-by-email games.
I recall the service being controversial for some reason (bugs?) when first implemented many years ago, but I had zero problems with my Decisive Campaigns games vs Barthheart over the past couple of years.
We were hoping that PBEM++ was being implemented into the code by Matrixlitherine, since they're clearly in the process of upgrading the game (somewhat) to modern standards, thus the beta code we're receiving (and testing).
Quote from: Yskonyn on June 02, 2018, 01:50:33 PM
The manual refers to PBEM++ does it not?
It does, but it also says that you can't use it with the Steam version...
Quote from: Father Ted on June 04, 2018, 10:44:27 AM
Quote from: Yskonyn on June 02, 2018, 01:50:33 PM
The manual refers to PBEM++ does it not?
It does, but it also says that you can't use it with the Steam version...
Aha! -- that reconciles all the information.
Quote from: Father Ted on June 04, 2018, 10:44:27 AM
Quote from: Yskonyn on June 02, 2018, 01:50:33 PM
The manual refers to PBEM++ does it not?
It does, but it also says that you can't use it with the Steam version...
Now it's clear! How bad.... :(
Thanks boggit.
I missed the part about it not being functional for Steam.
Weird, because FoG2 for example, works fine.
Oh well. Old school is fine as well.
I Don't have a "classic" folder but one for each edition (pacific and weapons and warfare)....this is really confusing. It seems i have to remember whim whom i play which scenario every time.... ???
Quote from: Anguille on June 06, 2018, 12:45:17 AM
I Don't have a "classic" folder but one for each edition (pacific and weapons and warfare)....this is really confusing. It seems i have to remember whim whom i play which scenario every time.... ???
Same here. I had to put together a list of games/opponents/emails to keep it all straight.
Quote from: Anguille on June 06, 2018, 12:45:17 AM
I Don't have a "classic" folder but one for each edition (pacific and weapons and warfare)....this is really confusing. It seems i have to remember whim whom i play which scenario every time.... ???
This is what works for me...
After tracking down the appropriate "E-mail" folder with File Explorer, I create a desktop shortcut for that folder and rename it to something that will identify it with the corresponding game/opponent.
Quote from: Anguille on June 06, 2018, 12:45:17 AM
....this is really confusing. It seems i have to remember whim whom i play which scenario every time.... ???
Already fallen foul of this...Having two games about Russia against two people whose emails bear no relation to their forum names has already proved too much for my poor logistical skills...
Also not sure we factored in time zones to the turn-around time. On weekdays I don't see me doing much more than one turn a day.
I have a question. There are two Strategic Command Classic titles in Matrix. What's the diff? And what's more complete? No package contains all DLC's?
http://www.matrixgames.com/products/product.asp?gid=699
"The Matrix version is the Gold Edition of the Original Strategic Command: Blitzkrieg and Weapons and Warfare combined. It also contains the Pacific Theatre and Patton Drives East DLCs"
http://www.matrixgames.com/products/product.asp?gid=724
"The Matrix version is the Gold Edition of the original and includes the the two DLCs "Assault on Communism" and "Assault on Democracy"."
Quote from: jomni on June 06, 2018, 05:14:50 PM
I have a question. There are two Strategic Command Classic titles in Matrix. What's the diff? And what's more complete? No package contains all DLC's?
http://www.matrixgames.com/products/product.asp?gid=699
"The Matrix version is the Gold Edition of the Original Strategic Command: Blitzkrieg and Weapons and Warfare combined. It also contains the Pacific Theatre and Patton Drives East DLCs"
http://www.matrixgames.com/products/product.asp?gid=724
"The Matrix version is the Gold Edition of the original and includes the the two DLCs "Assault on Communism" and "Assault on Democracy"."
It's the first one that we're using. :)
Quote from: Father Ted on June 06, 2018, 01:36:03 PM
Quote from: Anguille on June 06, 2018, 12:45:17 AM
....this is really confusing. It seems i have to remember whim whom i play which scenario every time.... ???
Already fallen foul of this...Having two games about Russia against two people whose emails bear no relation to their forum names has already proved too much for my poor logistical skills...
Also not sure we factored in time zones to the turn-around time. On weekdays I don't see me doing much more than one turn a day.
Do what you can within your circumstances, as the competition is supposed to be fun and not a chore. Just explain your situation to your opponent, so that people know what to expect.
I'm hoping that things will get easier for everyone, once you all begin to settle into it.
Quote from: JasonPratt on June 04, 2018, 08:06:07 AM
Quote from: Boggit on June 03, 2018, 05:27:39 AM
Quote from: Yskonyn on June 02, 2018, 01:50:33 PM
The manual refers to PBEM++ does it not?
I'm not sure what you mean by PBEM++. I've seen the term before, but I don't know precisely what it means.
It's a service for most Matrix/Slitherine games, where code within the game helps automate the sending, receiving, and operating of play-by-email games.
I recall the service being controversial for some reason (bugs?) when first implemented many years ago, but I had zero problems with my Decisive Campaigns games vs Barthheart over the past couple of years.
We were hoping that PBEM++ was being implemented into the code by Matrixlitherine, since they're clearly in the process of upgrading the game (somewhat) to modern standards, thus the beta code we're receiving (and testing).
Thanks. I know what you mean now, and have used it myself. :bd:
I think that the PBEM system is just due to the original game being the same as published under Battlefront Inc, but transferred over to Matrix/Slitherine and put on Steam. As the game has been around for quite a while now I doubt whether this game will ever be made PBEM++, but then again I have no idea whether Slitherine will do this retrospectively either.
You are correct that the codes provided were originally Beta codes. However, all they do is unlock exactly the same game that Slitherine is selling on the market. You were not given them for beta testing purposes, nor is there any expectation of you to do any beta testing. They are simply to facilitate the competition.
I know that Father Ted is awaiting a reply from Cyrano, but does everyone else have a current opponent for their games?
Quote from: Boggit on June 06, 2018, 09:56:51 PM
Quote from: jomni on June 06, 2018, 05:14:50 PM
I have a question. There are two Strategic Command Classic titles in Matrix. What's the diff? And what's more complete? No package contains all DLC's?
http://www.matrixgames.com/products/product.asp?gid=699
"The Matrix version is the Gold Edition of the Original Strategic Command: Blitzkrieg and Weapons and Warfare combined. It also contains the Pacific Theatre and Patton Drives East DLCs"
http://www.matrixgames.com/products/product.asp?gid=724
"The Matrix version is the Gold Edition of the original and includes the the two DLCs "Assault on Communism" and "Assault on Democracy"."
It's the first one that we're using. :)
I've done some reading. WWII has more limited maps and scope. Global conflict is more "global" in I guess. So they both have their own appeal.
Quote from: Shelldrake on June 06, 2018, 06:00:12 AM
Quote from: Anguille on June 06, 2018, 12:45:17 AM
I Don't have a "classic" folder but one for each edition (pacific and weapons and warfare)....this is really confusing. It seems i have to remember whim whom i play which scenario every time.... ???
Same here. I had to put together a list of games/opponents/emails to keep it all straight.
Don't know what email apps you guys have, but I was able to set up rules to funnel emails from each opponent into a separate folder, which has made things a bit easier.
Hi all,
I got some feedback that there may be a little confusion as to the scenario to be played in Round 2: The SCWW2 Patton Drives East Module.
For the avoidance of any doubt:
It is the Stalin Drives West Scenario that we are playing in Round 2.
I realise that there is a Patton Drives East scenario within the SCWW2 Patton Drives East Module, but I swear the developer only put that in to sow confusion in the ranks. ;) Seriously though, I can get why there might have been some confusion from the Round title description. I hope that clears things up.
PM me or post here if anyone has feedback on any issues with the competition.
I hope y'all enjoying yourselves. <:-)
The short answer is that the second one in the list plays the whole world global map.
The first one on the list plays either the Atlantic / Med map (maybe over to the Persian Gulf, I don't recall), and then for the "Rising Sun" DLC has a Pacific map.
I cannot quite say WHY I thought I had more time, but, well, yeah...
STARTED!
Sorry, gents.
Jim
Got my Round One (vs Shelldrake) started last night, too.
Kicked a reasonable amount of Soviet butt on the first turn.
Remembered just how much I hate the UI and map of first generation SC. (Seriously? If I have to de-select a unit for any reason after moving I can't attack with it afterward? SERIOUSLY?!?!!?111!?!11111)
Trembled at the sight of umpty Mechanized Corps (which in Soviet propaganda-speak means tank corps not mechanized infantry) activating between turns.
I had that EXACT same reaction when I hit "End Turn".
I may have to rethink when/how to work my plan...
You had a plan?
Jealous...
If somebody gets a chance, could you please explain to me how in the world I'm supposed to get across the Channel. I suppose I could just walk across by stepping from deck to deck of the combined U.S. and Royal Navies, although I somehow doubt that they would willingly participate in the exercise. :crazy2:
@JasonPratt do you want to play each round seperately? If not, feel free to email me the game for round 2.
@Nelmsm I have Turn 1 ready for the Round 3 game. Please PM me your email address.
@Ethel_the_Frog I am still waiting for your turn so we can start the game for Round 1.
Quote from: Millipede on June 10, 2018, 11:39:52 PM
If somebody gets a chance, could you please explain to me how in the world I'm supposed to get across the Channel. I suppose I could just walk across by stepping from deck to deck of the combined U.S. and Royal Navies, although I somehow doubt that they would willingly participate in the exercise. :crazy2:
Move unit to port city, right click and choose load transport from menu. :)
Quote from: Shelldrake on June 11, 2018, 09:41:27 AM
Quote from: Millipede on June 10, 2018, 11:39:52 PM
If somebody gets a chance, could you please explain to me how in the world I'm supposed to get across the Channel. I suppose I could just walk across by stepping from deck to deck of the combined U.S. and Royal Navies, although I somehow doubt that they would willingly participate in the exercise. :crazy2:
Move unit to port city, right click and choose load transport from menu. :)
Thanks for the tip. Unfortunately, that was my poor attempt at facetiousness.
It sounds like things are moving along now. I hope you're enjoying yourselves. Any screenies anyone? :hug:
Iudi1867 (Doug) and I have finished our match in Round 3. It was a well fought game but I scored a major victory as the Allies. :)
Quote from: Shelldrake on June 13, 2018, 07:06:29 PM
Iudi1867 (Doug) and I have finished our match in Round 3. It was a well fought game but I scored a major victory as the Allies. :)
Which scenario?
Quote from: Millipede on June 13, 2018, 07:20:38 PM
Quote from: Shelldrake on June 13, 2018, 07:06:29 PM
Iudi1867 (Doug) and I have finished our match in Round 3. It was a well fought game but I scored a major victory as the Allies. :)
Which scenario?
1944-45 Philippines (Pacific Theatre) - not a very balanced scenario based on our game
So we have our first results....
Round 1
Weapons and Warfare - 1941-45 Battle for Russia
Millipede (Axis) = 0
Nelmsm (Soviet) =0
Cyrano (Axis) = 0
Iudi1867 (Soviet) = 0
Ethel the Frog (Axis) = 0
Yskonyn (Soviet) = 0
Father Ted (Axis) = 0
Anguille (Soviet) = 0
JasonPratt (Axis) = 0
Shelldrake (Soviet) = 0
Round 2
Patton Drives East - Stalin Drives West
Millipede (Soviet) = 0
Iudi1867 (Allies) = 0
Father Ted (Soviet) = 0
Shelldrake (Allies) = 0
Ethel the Frog (Soviet) = 0
Nelmsm (Allies) =0
JasonPratt (Soviet) = 0
Yskonyn (Allies) = 0
Cyrano (Allies) = 0
Anguille (Soviet) = 0
Round 3
Pacific Theater - 1944-45 Philippines
Shelldrake (Allies) = 5
Iudi1867 (Imperial Japan) = 1
Ethel the Frog (Allies) = 0
Father Ted (Imperial Japan) = 0
Cyrano (Allies) = 0
JasonPratt (Imperial Japan) = 0
Nelmsm (Allies) =0
Yskonyn (Imperial Japan) = 0
Anguille (Allies) = 0
Millipede (Imperial Japan) = 0
Overall Score
Shelldrake = 5
Iudi1867 = 1
Millipede = 0
Nelmsm =0
Cyrano = 0
Ethel the Frog = 0
Yskonyn = 0
Father Ted = 0
Anguille = 0
JasonPratt = 0
Quote from: Shelldrake on June 14, 2018, 05:07:46 AM
Quote from: Millipede on June 13, 2018, 07:20:38 PM
Quote from: Shelldrake on June 13, 2018, 07:06:29 PM
Iudi1867 (Doug) and I have finished our match in Round 3. It was a well fought game but I scored a major victory as the Allies. :)
Which scenario?
1944-45 Philippines (Pacific Theatre) - not a very balanced scenario based on our game
Is the consensus that the score needs tweaking? If so, how much should the Allied victory score be tweaked?
Quote from: Yskonyn on June 11, 2018, 05:29:00 AM
@JasonPratt do you want to play each round seperately? If not, feel free to email me the game for round 2.
I'm playing each round separately; my time and energy are somewhat limited and spread out thinly! :buck2:
I will take a stab at tweaking since no one else has. Just be warned that I am playing all my games as the defender, and that might colour my thinking a bit!
I think that an allied victory in the Pacific scenario might be thought of as a four, not a five. I really do think the Allies have a significant advantage in this scenario. I also THINK that the soviets start with a significant advantage in "Stalin drives West", which I am also losing to Millipede - I think the maximum Allied score there should be a four as well. (I am doing better in the third of my defensive games, as Cyrano has made some mistakes as the Axis which has limited his advance - so I am not losing in ALL of my games!)
I don't know what the plan is but it seems to me that if we play another 3 round set of games after these that we're playing now and if we all play the 2nd set on the opposite side of the offensive/defensive fence then we're currently playing... it will balance out.
I sure hope Millipede is right!
Do you all want another 3 rounds on top of this as Millipede suggests?
Should as Iudi1867 suggests: the max score for the Allies in the Philippines scenario, and the Soviets in the Stalin Drives West scenario be capped at 4?
Let me know what you guys think. If there is a majority in favour of the change, I will change the scoring to reflect your wishes.
Well I think (an unsubtle, "Who cares", is heard from the back row)... It would be much more equitable to play a 2nd round of games than it would be for Boggit, or whoever, to be put in the position of having to arbitrarily assign a # to define which side has the greater advantage and how large or small that advantage may be. Someone will end up disagreeing with that choice and walk away unhappy. On the other hand, with a 2nd set of games with the same scoring we will be in a situation where the outcome will be a lot closer to equal. There will always be factors that move the outcome off of the equal bar, one way or the other, but a 2nd round will not introduce another equal/unequal factor into the equation. Of course, a 2nd round introduces the problem of how long do we want this contest to continue.
There you have it, my two and a quarter cents worth.
Well, as long as we HAVE to do three more rounds it would be better to do three more rounds as the OPPOSITE side from where we started. Right now I am doing all three as the "defensive" side and it is always more fun to be on the Attacking side!
Makes sense to me to switch roles for a second round of the same scenarios. O0
Well OK. If it is the consensus to play the opposite side, then I'll reallocate opponents, so that you all get a bit of variation with your gaming partners. I'll leave things as it is for a couple more days in the event that some of you are totally against this - as then it just won't work.
But if I see nothing more regarding this post other than approval, then I'll set up the mirror games for you.
More results are in.
Round 1
Weapons and Warfare - 1941-45 Battle for Russia
Millipede (Axis) = 0
Nelmsm (Soviet) =0
Cyrano (Axis) = 0
Iudi1867 (Soviet) = 0
Ethel the Frog (Axis) = 0
Yskonyn (Soviet) = 0
Father Ted (Axis) = 0
Anguille (Soviet) = 0
JasonPratt (Axis) = 0
Shelldrake (Soviet) = 0
Round 2
Patton Drives East - Stalin Drives West
Millipede (Soviet) = 6
Iudi1867 (Allies) = 1
Father Ted (Soviet) = 0
Shelldrake (Allies) = 0
Ethel the Frog (Soviet) = 0
Nelmsm (Allies) =0
JasonPratt (Soviet) = 0
Yskonyn (Allies) = 0
Cyrano (Allies) = 0
Anguille (Soviet) = 0
Round 3
Pacific Theater - 1944-45 Philippines
Shelldrake (Allies) = 5
Iudi1867 (Imperial Japan) = 1
Ethel the Frog (Allies) = 0
Father Ted (Imperial Japan) = 0
Cyrano (Allies) = 0
JasonPratt (Imperial Japan) = 0
Nelmsm (Allies) =0
Yskonyn (Imperial Japan) = 0
Anguille (Allies) = 0
Millipede (Imperial Japan) = 0
Overall Score
Millipede = 6
Shelldrake = 5
Iudi1867 = 2
Nelmsm =0
Cyrano = 0
Ethel the Frog = 0
Yskonyn = 0
Father Ted = 0
Anguille = 0
JasonPratt = 0
As per the request for mirror games... here is the league roster...
Round 1
Weapons and Warfare - 1941-45 Battle for Russia
Millipede (Axis) vs Nelmsm (Soviet)
Cyrano (Axis) vs Iudi1867 (Soviet)
Ethel the Frog (Axis) vs Yskonyn (Soviet)
Father Ted (Axis) vs Anguille (Soviet)
JasonPratt (Axis) vs Shelldrake (Soviet)
Round 2
Patton Drives East - Stalin Drives West
Millipede (Soviet) vs Iudi1867 (Allies)
Father Ted (Soviet) vs Shelldrake (Allies)
Ethel the Frog (Soviet) vs Nelmsm (Allies)
JasonPratt (Soviet) vs Yskonyn (Allies)
Anguille (Soviet) vs Cyrano (Allies)
Round 3
Pacific Theater - 1944-45 Philippines
Ethel the Frog (Allies) vs Father Ted (Imperial Japan)
Cyrano (Allies) vs JasonPratt (Imperial Japan)
Shelldrake (Allies) vs Iudi1867 (Imperial Japan)
Nelmsm (Allies) vs Yskonyn (Imperial Japan)
Anguille (Allies) vs Millipede (Imperial Japan)
Round 4
Weapons and Warfare - 1941-45 Battle for Russia
Shelldrake (Axis) vs Ethel the Frog (Soviet)
Anguille (Axis) vs JasonPratt (Soviet)
Yskonyn (Axis) vs Cyrano (Soviet)
Nelmsm (Axis) vs Father Ted (Soviet)
Iudi1867 (Axis) vs Millipede (Soviet)
Round 5
Patton Drives East - Stalin Drives West
Yskonyn (Soviet) vs Millipede(Allies)
Iudi1867 (Soviet) vs Father Ted (Allies)
Cyrano (Soviet) vs Ethel the Frog (Allies)
Shelldrake (Soviet) vs JasonPratt (Allies)
Nelmsm (Soviet) vs Anguille (Allies)
Round 6
Pacific Theater - 1944-45 Philippines
JasonPratt (Allies) vs Ethel the Frog (Imperial Japan)
Millipede (Allies) vs Cyrano (Imperial Japan)
Father Ted (Allies) vs Shelldrake (Imperial Japan)
Iudi1867 (Allies) vs Nelmsm (Imperial Japan)
Yskonyn (Allies) vs Anguille (Imperial Japan)
Latest score.
Round 1
Weapons and Warfare - 1941-45 Battle for Russia
Millipede (Axis) = 0
Nelmsm (Soviet) =0
Cyrano (Axis) = 0
Iudi1867 (Soviet) = 0
Ethel the Frog (Axis) = 0
Yskonyn (Soviet) = 0
Father Ted (Axis) = 0
Anguille (Soviet) = 0
JasonPratt (Axis) = 0
Shelldrake (Soviet) = 0
Round 2
Patton Drives East - Stalin Drives West
Millipede (Soviet) = 6
Iudi1867 (Allies) = 1
Father Ted (Soviet) = 0
Shelldrake (Allies) = 0
Ethel the Frog (Soviet) = 0
Nelmsm (Allies) =0
JasonPratt (Soviet) = 0
Yskonyn (Allies) = 0
Cyrano (Allies) = 0
Anguille (Soviet) = 0
Round 3
Pacific Theater - 1944-45 Philippines
Shelldrake (Allies) = 5
Iudi1867 (Imperial Japan) = 1
Ethel the Frog (Allies) = 0
Father Ted (Imperial Japan) = 0
Cyrano (Allies) = 0
JasonPratt (Imperial Japan) = 0
Nelmsm (Allies) =0
Yskonyn (Imperial Japan) = 0
Anguille (Allies) = 1
Millipede (Imperial Japan) = 5
Overall Score
Millipede = 11
Shelldrake = 5
Iudi1867 = 2
Anguille = 1
Nelmsm =0
Cyrano = 0
Ethel the Frog = 0
Yskonyn = 0
Father Ted = 0
JasonPratt = 0
Thanks for organising this Boggit, and good luck everyone! :) :bd:
Quote from: Bill Runacre on July 07, 2018, 08:01:21 AM
Thanks for organising this Boggit, and good luck everyone! :) :bd:
You're welcome, and thanks for looking in. O0
And the latest update
Round 1
Weapons and Warfare - 1941-45 Battle for Russia
Millipede (Axis) = 3
Nelmsm (Soviet) =1
Cyrano (Axis) = 0
Iudi1867 (Soviet) = 0
Ethel the Frog (Axis) = 0
Yskonyn (Soviet) = 0
Father Ted (Axis) = 0
Anguille (Soviet) = 0
JasonPratt (Axis) = 0
Shelldrake (Soviet) = 0
Round 2
Patton Drives East - Stalin Drives West
Millipede (Soviet) = 6
Iudi1867 (Allies) = 1
Father Ted (Soviet) = 0
Shelldrake (Allies) = 0
Ethel the Frog (Soviet) = 0
Nelmsm (Allies) =0
JasonPratt (Soviet) = 0
Yskonyn (Allies) = 0
Cyrano (Allies) = 0
Anguille (Soviet) = 0
Round 3
Pacific Theater - 1944-45 Philippines
Shelldrake (Allies) = 5
Iudi1867 (Imperial Japan) = 1
Ethel the Frog (Allies) = 0
Father Ted (Imperial Japan) = 0
Cyrano (Allies) = 0
JasonPratt (Imperial Japan) = 0
Nelmsm (Allies) =0
Yskonyn (Imperial Japan) = 0
Anguille (Allies) = 1
Millipede (Imperial Japan) = 4
Overall Score
Millipede = 13
Shelldrake = 5
Iudi1867 = 2
Anguille = 1
Nelmsm =1
Cyrano = 0
Ethel the Frog = 0
Yskonyn = 0
Father Ted = 0
JasonPratt = 0
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Scoring values
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Round 1/4
Weapons and Warfare - 1941-45 Battle for Russia
Victory = 3 points
Draw=2 points
Loss=1 point
Round 2/5
Patton Drives East - Stalin Drives West
Soviet Decisive Victory = 6 points
Soviet Major Victory = 5 points
Soviet Minor Victory = 4 points
Allied Major Victory = 5 points
Allied Minor Victory = 4 points
Draw = 2 points Soviet, 3 points Allied
Loss = 1 point
Round 3/6
Pacific Theater - 1944-45 Philippines
Japanese Major Victory = 5 points
Allied Major Victory = 5 points
Allied Minor Victory = 4 points
Draw = 2 points Allied, 3 Points Japanese
Loss 1 point
I was notified of some slight confusion as to sides on Round 3, so I have revised the league roster to ensure mirror games. Shelldrake and Yskonyn will have Millipede and Anguille as new opponents in Round 6.
Round 1
Weapons and Warfare - 1941-45 Battle for Russia
Millipede (Axis) vs Nelmsm (Soviet)
Cyrano (Axis) vs Iudi1867 (Soviet)
Ethel the Frog (Axis) vs Yskonyn (Soviet)
Father Ted (Axis) vs Anguille (Soviet)
JasonPratt (Axis) vs Shelldrake (Soviet)
Round 2
Patton Drives East - Stalin Drives West
Millipede (Soviet) vs Iudi1867 (Allies)
Father Ted (Soviet) vs Shelldrake (Allies)
Ethel the Frog (Soviet) vs Nelmsm (Allies)
JasonPratt (Soviet) vs Yskonyn (Allies)
Anguille (Soviet) vs Cyrano (Allies)
Round 3
Pacific Theater - 1944-45 Philippines
Ethel the Frog (Allies) vs Father Ted (Imperial Japan)
Cyrano (Allies) vs JasonPratt (Imperial Japan)
Shelldrake (Allies) vs Iudi1867 (Imperial Japan)
Nelmsm (Allies) vs Yskonyn (Imperial Japan)
Millipede (Allies) vs Anguille (Imperial Japan)
Round 4
Weapons and Warfare - 1941-45 Battle for Russia
Shelldrake (Axis) vs Ethel the Frog (Soviet)
Anguille (Axis) vs JasonPratt (Soviet)
Yskonyn (Axis) vs Cyrano (Soviet)
Nelmsm (Axis) vs Father Ted (Soviet)
Iudi1867 (Axis) vs Millipede (Soviet)
Round 5
Patton Drives East - Stalin Drives West
Yskonyn (Soviet) vs Millipede(Allies)
Iudi1867 (Soviet) vs Father Ted (Allies)
Cyrano (Soviet) vs Ethel the Frog (Allies)
Shelldrake (Soviet) vs JasonPratt (Allies)
Nelmsm (Soviet) vs Anguille (Allies)
Round 6
Pacific Theater - 1944-45 Philippines
JasonPratt (Allies) vs Ethel the Frog (Imperial Japan)
Father Ted (Allies) vs Cyrano (Imperial Japan)
Anguille (Allies) vs Shelldrake (Imperial Japan)
Iudi1867 (Allies) vs Nelmsm (Imperial Japan)
Yskonyn (Allies) vs Millipede (Imperial Japan)
Shell and I are booking along on the East Front super-campaign now, but... well, y'know, it's a long campaign. :-[
(...and I keep forgetting to play my turn promptly.)
Quote from: JasonPratt on July 08, 2018, 03:34:54 PM
Shell and I are booking along on the East Front super-campaign now, but... well, y'know, it's a long campaign. :-[
(...and I keep forgetting to play my turn promptly.)
No worries.
It's not a race. Judging from the rate of completion so far, I guess we'll be finished early Autumn (or Fall to you of the rebel colonist, 'cousin Jonathan' persuasion :P ;)).
And apologies for the latest update... edited because it was not made clear as to one player's level of victory. Now corrected. O0
Round 1
Weapons and Warfare - 1941-45 Battle for Russia
Millipede (Axis) = 3
Nelmsm (Soviet) =1
Cyrano (Axis) = 0
Iudi1867 (Soviet) = 0
Ethel the Frog (Axis) = 0
Yskonyn (Soviet) = 0
Father Ted (Axis) = 0
Anguille (Soviet) = 0
JasonPratt (Axis) = 0
Shelldrake (Soviet) = 0
Round 2
Patton Drives East - Stalin Drives West
Millipede (Soviet) = 6
Iudi1867 (Allies) = 1
Father Ted (Soviet) = 0
Shelldrake (Allies) = 0
Ethel the Frog (Soviet) = 0
Nelmsm (Allies) =0
JasonPratt (Soviet) = 0
Yskonyn (Allies) = 0
Cyrano (Allies) = 0
Anguille (Soviet) = 0
Round 3
Pacific Theater - 1944-45 Philippines
Shelldrake (Allies) = 5
Iudi1867 (Imperial Japan) = 1
Ethel the Frog (Allies) = 0
Father Ted (Imperial Japan) = 0
Cyrano (Allies) = 0
JasonPratt (Imperial Japan) = 0
Nelmsm (Allies) =0
Yskonyn (Imperial Japan) = 0
Anguille (Allies) = 1
Millipede (Imperial Japan) = 5
Overall Score
Millipede = 14
Shelldrake = 5
Iudi1867 = 2
Anguille = 1
Nelmsm =1
Cyrano = 0
Ethel the Frog = 0
Yskonyn = 0
Father Ted = 0
JasonPratt = 0
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Scoring values
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Round 1/4
Weapons and Warfare - 1941-45 Battle for Russia
Victory = 3 points
Draw=2 points
Loss=1 point
Round 2/5
Patton Drives East - Stalin Drives West
Soviet Decisive Victory = 6 points
Soviet Major Victory = 5 points
Soviet Minor Victory = 4 points
Allied Major Victory = 5 points
Allied Minor Victory = 4 points
Draw = 2 points Soviet, 3 points Allied
Loss = 1 point
Round 3/6
Pacific Theater - 1944-45 Philippines
Japanese Major Victory = 5 points
Allied Major Victory = 5 points
Allied Minor Victory = 4 points
Draw = 2 points Allied, 3 Points Japanese
Loss 1 point
Ludi has lost to Millipede in Russia 1941.
Quote from: ludi1867 on July 19, 2018, 10:43:52 AM
Ludi has lost to Millipede in Russia 1941.
No worries. You still get a point for the game. Better luck with your next game! \m/
So here we are now. Millipede is roaring ahead.
Round 1
Weapons and Warfare - 1941-45 Battle for Russia
Millipede (Axis) = 3
Nelmsm (Soviet) =1
Cyrano (Axis) = 0
Iudi1867 (Soviet) = 0
Ethel the Frog (Axis) = 0
Yskonyn (Soviet) = 0
Father Ted (Axis) = 0
Anguille (Soviet) = 0
JasonPratt (Axis) = 0
Shelldrake (Soviet) = 0
Round 2
Patton Drives East - Stalin Drives West
Millipede (Soviet) = 6
Iudi1867 (Allies) = 1
Father Ted (Soviet) = 0
Shelldrake (Allies) = 0
Ethel the Frog (Soviet) = 0
Nelmsm (Allies) =0
JasonPratt (Soviet) = 0
Yskonyn (Allies) = 0
Cyrano (Allies) = 0
Anguille (Soviet) = 0
Round 3
Pacific Theater - 1944-45 Philippines
Shelldrake (Allies) = 5
Iudi1867 (Imperial Japan) = 1
Ethel the Frog (Allies) = 0
Father Ted (Imperial Japan) = 0
Cyrano (Allies) = 0
JasonPratt (Imperial Japan) = 0
Nelmsm (Allies) =0
Yskonyn (Imperial Japan) = 0
Anguille (Allies) = 1
Millipede (Imperial Japan) = 5
Round 4
Weapons and Warfare - 1941-45 Battle for Russia
Shelldrake (Axis) = 0
Ethel the Frog (Soviet) = 0
Anguille (Axis) = 0
JasonPratt (Soviet) = 0
Yskonyn (Axis) = 0
Cyrano (Soviet) = 0
Nelmsm (Axis) = 0
Father Ted (Soviet) = 0
Iudi1867(Axis) = 1
Millipede (Soviet) = 3
Round 5
Patton Drives East - Stalin Drives West
Yskonyn (Soviet) = 0
Millipede(Allies) = 0
Iudi1867 (Soviet) = 0
Father Ted (Allies) = 0
Cyrano (Soviet) = 0
Ethel the Frog (Allies) = 0
Shelldrake (Soviet) = 0
JasonPratt (Allies) = 0
Nelmsm (Soviet) = 0
Anguille (Allies) = 0
Round 6
Pacific Theater - 1944-45 Philippines
JasonPratt (Allies) = 0
Ethel the Frog (Imperial Japan) = 0
Father Ted (Allies) = 0
Cyrano (Imperial Japan) = 0
Anguille (Allies) = 0
Shelldrake (Imperial Japan) = 0
Iudi1867 (Allies) = 0
Nelmsm (Imperial Japan) = 0
Yskonyn (Allies) = 0
Millipede (Imperial Japan) = 0
Overall Score
Millipede = 17
Shelldrake = 5
Iudi1867 = 3
Anguille = 1
Nelmsm =1
Cyrano = 0
Ethel the Frog = 0
Yskonyn = 0
Father Ted = 0
JasonPratt = 0
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Scoring values
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Round 1/4
Weapons and Warfare - 1941-45 Battle for Russia
Victory = 3 points
Draw=2 points
Loss=1 point
Round 2/5
Patton Drives East - Stalin Drives West
Soviet Decisive Victory = 6 points
Soviet Major Victory = 5 points
Soviet Minor Victory = 4 points
Allied Major Victory = 5 points
Allied Minor Victory = 4 points
Draw = 2 points Soviet, 3 points Allied
Loss = 1 point
Round 3/6
Pacific Theater - 1944-45 Philippines
Japanese Major Victory = 5 points
Allied Major Victory = 5 points
Allied Minor Victory = 4 points
Draw = 2 points Allied, 3 Points Japanese
Loss 1 point
Partly due to a glut of overtime (which admittedly I authorized), and partly due to me forgetting that Shelldrake already sent in his turn #:-) , I have been lagging dreadfully in sending in Turn 22 of our campaign.
But I shall be rectifying this soon.
(...uh, not very soon, but more like this weekend, I expect.)
I am on vacation until the 16th. See you all again after! :coolsmiley:
I guess we'll eventually get there... ::) ;)
I have improved my turn-around at least 100% this week!
...meaning I think I've sent in two turns instead of one so far. :buck2: But I don't consider the week over until Sunday night so we'll see if I can get another couple of turns in.
Quote from: JasonPratt on August 03, 2018, 08:05:05 AM
I have improved my turn-around at least 100% this week!
...meaning I think I've sent in two turns instead of one so far. :buck2: But I don't consider the week over until Sunday night so we'll see if I can get another couple of turns in.
I will be out of town until Monday so you just need to get one turn done. :)
Well, things are burning along now!
...but fortunately the rainy season has arrived, at last, to douse the flames still smoldering on my various divisions. :bd:
L:-) :hide:
NECROTHREAD, ARIIISS... wait, it isn't dead yet?
I blame me.
...for it being almost dead. Not for it being not dead yet.
It's getting better.
Anyway. Shell and I are on Turn 47 or something like that, and the End is surely Nigh. Should be finishing up soon.
I thought I'd look in to see if there was anything to update, but it seems almost everyone is away on their hols. :)
@Jason and Shell
Good to see things are moving along. I hope you're enjoying the games? \m/
Well, one of us is for sure. The other is enjoying planning for the rematch. >:D
Quote from: JasonPratt on August 21, 2018, 11:19:29 AM
Well, one of us is for sure. The other is enjoying planning for the rematch. >:D
After a bleak start for the Soviets (I can't count the number of armies/corps destroyed in the German offensive) the shoe is on the other foot now. :)
Quote from: Shelldrake on August 21, 2018, 03:18:12 PM
Quote from: JasonPratt on August 21, 2018, 11:19:29 AM
Well, one of us is for sure. The other is enjoying planning for the rematch. >:D
After a bleak start for the Soviets (I can't count the number of armies/corps destroyed in the German offensive) the shoe is on the other foot now. :)
If you've (the Soviets) managed to make it through the winter of '41, the Germans are in deep poo poo. :knuppel2:
Quote from: Millipede on August 21, 2018, 06:53:40 PM
If you've (the Soviets) managed to make it through to the winter of '41, the Germans are in deep poo poo. :knuppel2:
Upgraded for accuracy. Quoted for truth. :hide:
At this point, while I've got a nice defensive line set up on my North Front, Shelldrake has effectively flanked it at least three levels deep, and can take my backfield with impunity. I have no way to protect Berlin, so to save time I'm going to tip the king and concede a full win to Shell.
Are we supposed to do best two out of three now? Because I'm willing to try again as the Nazis, in the perennial puzzle of how to win Barbarossa. O:-)
Quote from: JasonPratt on August 23, 2018, 06:43:24 PM
Are we supposed to do best two out of three now? Because I'm willing to try again as the Nazis, in the perennial puzzle of how to win Barbarossa. O:-)
Not really.
For the purpose of the competition, the consensus was that we do mirror games to eliminate the possibility of bias due to the relative weakness of one side to the other adversely affecting a player's score.
Obviously, if you and Shelldrake want to play the scenario again that is entirely up to you (and I hope you have a lot of fun with it). O0
However, I must keep the original scores posted here because to do otherwise is potentially unfair to the other players.
Certainly the original score must be posted. I just didn't know what we were supposed to do next.
...which, I guess I still don't know. :-\
Quote from: JasonPratt on August 24, 2018, 01:50:27 PM
Certainly the original score must be posted. I just didn't know what we were supposed to do next.
...which, I guess I still don't know. :-\
If you're wondering who plays who in which scenario... post #137 has the lineup.
Ah, right, been a while since I saw that, forgot it existed:
JasonPratt (Soviet) vs Yskonyn (Allies) -- Stalin Drives West
Hmmm... That will be interesting especially since I get the same scenario against Yskonyn as the Soviets when you guys are through.
Also, maybe now I can properly remind myself to continue with the start of our awesome Red Thunder randomly generated scenario that we started playing, gosh, was it last year?? The first shot was just fired!! -- and then I got distracted by other shiny things and never got back to it.
Congrats to Iudi1867 (now in second place) and commiserations to Cyrano on the latest result!
Round 1
Weapons and Warfare - 1941-45 Battle for Russia
Millipede (Axis) = 3
Nelmsm (Soviet) =1
Cyrano (Axis) = 1
Iudi1867 (Soviet) = 3
Ethel the Frog (Axis) = 0
Yskonyn (Soviet) = 0
Father Ted (Axis) = 0
Anguille (Soviet) = 0
JasonPratt (Axis) = 0
Shelldrake (Soviet) = 0
Round 2
Patton Drives East - Stalin Drives West
Millipede (Soviet) = 6
Iudi1867 (Allies) = 1
Father Ted (Soviet) = 0
Shelldrake (Allies) = 0
Ethel the Frog (Soviet) = 0
Nelmsm (Allies) =0
JasonPratt (Soviet) = 0
Yskonyn (Allies) = 0
Cyrano (Allies) = 0
Anguille (Soviet) = 0
Round 3
Pacific Theater - 1944-45 Philippines
Shelldrake (Allies) = 5
Iudi1867 (Imperial Japan) = 1
Ethel the Frog (Allies) = 0
Father Ted (Imperial Japan) = 0
Cyrano (Allies) = 0
JasonPratt (Imperial Japan) = 0
Nelmsm (Allies) =0
Yskonyn (Imperial Japan) = 0
Anguille (Allies) = 1
Millipede (Imperial Japan) = 5
Round 4
Weapons and Warfare - 1941-45 Battle for Russia
Shelldrake (Axis) = 0
Ethel the Frog (Soviet) = 0
Anguille (Axis) = 0
JasonPratt (Soviet) = 0
Yskonyn (Axis) = 0
Cyrano (Soviet) = 0
Nelmsm (Axis) = 0
Father Ted (Soviet) = 0
Iudi1867(Axis) = 1
Millipede (Soviet) = 3
Round 5
Patton Drives East - Stalin Drives West
Yskonyn (Soviet) = 0
Millipede(Allies) = 0
Iudi1867 (Soviet) = 0
Father Ted (Allies) = 0
Cyrano (Soviet) = 0
Ethel the Frog (Allies) = 0
Shelldrake (Soviet) = 0
JasonPratt (Allies) = 0
Nelmsm (Soviet) = 0
Anguille (Allies) = 0
Round 6
Pacific Theater - 1944-45 Philippines
JasonPratt (Allies) = 0
Ethel the Frog (Imperial Japan) = 0
Father Ted (Allies) = 0
Cyrano (Imperial Japan) = 0
Anguille (Allies) = 0
Shelldrake (Imperial Japan) = 0
Iudi1867 (Allies) = 0
Nelmsm (Imperial Japan) = 0
Yskonyn (Allies) = 0
Millipede (Imperial Japan) = 0
Overall Score
Millipede = 17
Iudi1867 = 6
Shelldrake = 5
Anguille = 1
Nelmsm =1
Cyrano = 1
Ethel the Frog = 0
Yskonyn = 0
Father Ted = 0
JasonPratt = 0
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Scoring values
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Round 1/4
Weapons and Warfare - 1941-45 Battle for Russia
Victory = 3 points
Draw=2 points
Loss=1 point
Round 2/5
Patton Drives East - Stalin Drives West
Soviet Decisive Victory = 6 points
Soviet Major Victory = 5 points
Soviet Minor Victory = 4 points
Allied Major Victory = 5 points
Allied Minor Victory = 4 points
Draw = 2 points Soviet, 3 points Allied
Loss = 1 point
Round 3/6
Pacific Theater - 1944-45 Philippines
Japanese Major Victory = 5 points
Allied Major Victory = 5 points
Allied Minor Victory = 4 points
Draw = 2 points Allied, 3 Points Japanese
Loss 1 point
Are you guys happy to play this competition at your own pace, or do you want me to enforce any cut offs to speed up the competition?
If you're happy as you are then we can leave things as they are. I really don't mind so long as you're all happy. Let me know your thoughts. :)
Quote from: JasonPratt on August 24, 2018, 01:50:27 PM
Certainly the original score must be posted. I just didn't know what we were supposed to do next.
...which, I guess I still don't know. :-\
There are 6 rounds (3 mirror games). Just have a look at the last results to see where there are gaps in your matches, and who your next opponents are.
I hope that helps. :)
Um, doesn't Shell get 3 and I get 1 point? (or 0 points?)
Yskonyn, it could be a few days before a start the fight (I've got the first turn so I have to start it; checked tonight on a test run to be sure.) I want to take some time to study my resources, map positioning, avenues of attack, etc.
I am back from vacation. Expect the turns to be coming forth!
Quote from: JasonPratt on August 25, 2018, 07:08:34 PM
Um, doesn't Shell get 3 and I get 1 point? (or 0 points?)
Yes you do. To be safe rather than sorry and have to remind me to check the posts, I recommend that you send me a confirmation PM alerting me to your result success or otherwise. It is easy to sometimes gloss over a result amongst the general banter. Sorry for the oversight.
I'll post Shell's victory as Soviet in the WW2 Eastern Front, and mark you up a point too. Meanwhile I hope you and Ysk have a fun game in your next round! :)
Congrats to Iudi1867 (Still holding second place) and Shell (close behind in third). Meanwhile commiserations to JasonPratt and Nelmsm on the latest result!
Round 1
Weapons and Warfare - 1941-45 Battle for Russia
Millipede (Axis) = 3
Nelmsm (Soviet) =1
Cyrano (Axis) = 1
Iudi1867 (Soviet) = 3
Ethel the Frog (Axis) = 0
Yskonyn (Soviet) = 0
Father Ted (Axis) = 0
Anguille (Soviet) = 0
JasonPratt (Axis) = 1
Shelldrake (Soviet) = 3
Round 2
Patton Drives East - Stalin Drives West
Millipede (Soviet) = 6
Iudi1867 (Allies) = 1
Father Ted (Soviet) = 0
Shelldrake (Allies) = 0
Ethel the Frog (Soviet) = 0
Nelmsm (Allies) =0
JasonPratt (Soviet) = 0
Yskonyn (Allies) = 0
Cyrano (Allies) = 0
Anguille (Soviet) = 0
Round 3
Pacific Theater - 1944-45 Philippines
Shelldrake (Allies) = 5
Iudi1867 (Imperial Japan) = 1
Ethel the Frog (Allies) = 0
Father Ted (Imperial Japan) = 0
Cyrano (Allies) = 0
JasonPratt (Imperial Japan) = 0
Nelmsm (Allies) =0
Yskonyn (Imperial Japan) = 0
Anguille (Allies) = 1
Millipede (Imperial Japan) = 5
Round 4
Weapons and Warfare - 1941-45 Battle for Russia
Shelldrake (Axis) = 0
Ethel the Frog (Soviet) = 0
Anguille (Axis) = 0
JasonPratt (Soviet) = 0
Yskonyn (Axis) = 0
Cyrano (Soviet) = 0
Nelmsm (Axis) = 0
Father Ted (Soviet) = 0
Iudi1867(Axis) = 1
Millipede (Soviet) = 3
Round 5
Patton Drives East - Stalin Drives West
Yskonyn (Soviet) = 0
Millipede(Allies) = 0
Iudi1867 (Soviet) = 0
Father Ted (Allies) = 0
Cyrano (Soviet) = 0
Ethel the Frog (Allies) = 0
Shelldrake (Soviet) = 0
JasonPratt (Allies) = 0
Nelmsm (Soviet) = 0
Anguille (Allies) = 0
Round 6
Pacific Theater - 1944-45 Philippines
JasonPratt (Allies) = 0
Ethel the Frog (Imperial Japan) = 0
Father Ted (Allies) = 0
Cyrano (Imperial Japan) = 0
Anguille (Allies) = 0
Shelldrake (Imperial Japan) = 0
Iudi1867 (Allies) = 5
Nelmsm (Imperial Japan) = 1
Yskonyn (Allies) = 0
Millipede (Imperial Japan) = 0
Overall Score
Millipede = 17
Iudi1867 = 11
Shelldrake = 8
Anguille = 1
Nelmsm =2
Cyrano = 1
Ethel the Frog = 0
Yskonyn = 0
Father Ted = 0
JasonPratt = 1
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Scoring values
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Round 1/4
Weapons and Warfare - 1941-45 Battle for Russia
Victory = 3 points
Draw=2 points
Loss=1 point
Round 2/5
Patton Drives East - Stalin Drives West
Soviet Decisive Victory = 6 points
Soviet Major Victory = 5 points
Soviet Minor Victory = 4 points
Allied Major Victory = 5 points
Allied Minor Victory = 4 points
Draw = 2 points Soviet, 3 points Allied
Loss = 1 point
Round 3/6
Pacific Theater - 1944-45 Philippines
Japanese Major Victory = 5 points
Allied Major Victory = 5 points
Allied Minor Victory = 4 points
Draw = 2 points Allied, 3 Points Japanese
Loss 1 point
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Sticky
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I hope the above is all correct now?
If it needs any further updates, either because I've accidentally misreported the score, or you have a game result not recorded please do let me know, and I can correct it.
I'd like to think I'm perfect, but sadly the truth is that I'm not. :'( ;)
At last, my unfated match with Yskonyn... BEGINS! LIKE OKTOBERFEST IN JULY!
In order to put some finality on the game, what is the consensus of me adding cut-off dates for completion of the remaining games? Clearly, some of the players who originally signed up have not played their games, which has had an impact on some other active players.
To start with, I propose putting a cut-off on each round - say a week - consecutively for each game in rounds 1-3? i.e. a three week window for outstanding games in rounds 1-3.
I also suggest that active players without an opponent contact me so we can get some re-matching going, so that everyone has a chance to play their games.
OK - over to you guys. Discuss it here, then PM me as to the way you want to go with this.
I'd say forfeits are better than a flat cutoff rate. It took me and Shelldrake a while to play our round, and I doubt my round with Yskonyn will take less time since the map is larger! Admittedly, part of the reason it took us so long was because I kept forgetting he had sent in his turn (and part was due to my being distracted by other things -- none of the delay was Shell's fault), but while our turnaround was kind of spotty sometimes, especially at the beginning, we did keep at it.
In some scenarios, such as both mine vs Shelldrake, and mine vs Yskonyn, one player (me in both cases) must take many hexes in order to score a decisive win, and it may not be feasible for the player to do so until late in the game: it was conceivably possible that, had I won (I didn't), I wouldn't have been able to pick up my three victory hexes until the final two or three turns. Running out of real-time game time would handicap players in that position.
It would be better to check for voluntary forfeits after a protracted silence on turns; and then to call for incidental forfeits if there's no reply to that inquiry for a while. (With the match to be returned later if the missing player shows up again, perhaps.)
That's my opinion but I might consider another position more logically fair to all players involved. O:-)
@JasonPratt
That seems to me a better way forward. O0
Like you, I'd like to know what people think of it.
Relatedly, I haven't heard from Yskonyn since I sent my first turn back on Sept 10th (now two full weeks ago). :-\ I hope he's okay, but we may have to put our game on abeyance.
I am sorry guys. All ok here, i keep intending to play the turns but other things get in the way. Frankly, I have to admit this is because I just dont like the game too much.
At first I thought it was because of the unknown factor so I played some singleplayer, but I just have to come clean and admit the game isnt for me and stop stalling.
So if you can find a replacement for me I'd be happy. Apologies!
Also, if you want to get some form of reimbursement from me for the game send me a PM!
That's fine; I can play the Classic version but for mechanics I much prefer the new version. O:-)
So, am I on to Round...... five vs Shelldrake again?!
(...I haven't played rounds 3 or 4 yet.)
I've had a couple of PM's from players whose opponents have drifted away/lost interest leaving a slight conundrum as to what next?
So the issues are:
1. Who is currently active; and
2. How do we deal with the mismatches to be fair to everyone?
Therefore, if you're currently active post below so I can see who is left in contention and have an accurate picture of the situation.
As to the mismatches, I'm inclined to either:
a) Forfeit the inactive players giving the maximum win to their opponents; or
b) Rematch the remaining players as far as possible, providing people are in favour.
I know some of you have put in a lot of effort into the competition. I don't want to act arbitrarily without the general consensus being in favour out of respect for those who have fought so doggedly.
Please let me know your thoughts.
I'm playing against Shelldrake for Round 4, but I haven't done Round 3 yet. (I think I defaulted in favor of Round 2.)
....uh, I'm playing him when I remember he sent me his turn. :-[ I'll get back into synch eventually. O:-)
I'm still in and while giving me max points for forfeitures would be nice :-", I'd much prefer that those remaining have an equal shot at winning so if it's possible to realign opponents that would be good.
Millipede contacted me.
He made a good point about something that I had missed: there actually is a price to be won here. I am not sure how I have missed that but I'll take my responsibility and continue fighting to give everyone a fair chance on the win. Sorry for the ruckus.
Sorry, have been in a mess since i moved in august...it should slowly get better.
Anguille just contacted me so we will be starting our match as soon as I get my turn done (I go first). JP and I have our match started and Father Ted and I are continuing with our match.
Still no word from Ethel the Frog so I will reach out to him again.
Millipede and Jason both send me the Stalin Drives West scenario. I was already playing this with Millipede so I think the shuffling of things might have raised an error in scenario pickings.
Jason and I should be playing a scenario from Weapons and Warfare as that's the title I am not yet playing in this tournament.
Quote from: Yskonyn on October 04, 2018, 08:39:23 AM
Millipede and Jason both send me the Stalin Drives West scenario. I was already playing this with Millipede so I think the shuffling of things might have raised an error in scenario pickings.
Jason and I should be playing a scenario from Weapons and Warfare as that's the title I am not yet playing in this tournament.
I have received Yskonyn's 2nd turn so we aren't that far into our game and if restarting with a different scenario helps... I don't have a problem with that. As he stated, we're playing "Stalin Drives West" and he's playing the vicious blood sucking communist horde and I'm playing the defenders of world freedom. O:-) ::)
Good. It looks like things are taking shape. O0
I didn't realize I was in this tournament. Shelldrake wants to play, and I am happy to do so.
I am looking around for a "code from Boggit", but don't see one. Do I need the code? What for?
Ok. Found the code...
Ethel the Frog and I have finished our match - I claimed a German victory in a well fought game.
My matches with Father Ted, Anguille, and JasonPratt continue.
I am (sort of) playing Father Ted in Stalin Drives west. I have not seen a turn in a while!
Congrats to Shell drawing equal with Iudi1867 in second place. Meanwhile commiserations to EtheltheFrog, but hey, it's just getting going for you! ;)
Round 1
Weapons and Warfare - 1941-45 Battle for Russia
Millipede (Axis) = 3
Nelmsm (Soviet) =1
Cyrano (Axis) = 1
Iudi1867 (Soviet) = 3
Ethel the Frog (Axis) = 0
Yskonyn (Soviet) = 0
Father Ted (Axis) = 0
Anguille (Soviet) = 0
JasonPratt (Axis) = 1
Shelldrake (Soviet) = 3
Round 2
Patton Drives East - Stalin Drives West
Millipede (Soviet) = 6
Iudi1867 (Allies) = 1
Father Ted (Soviet) = 0
Shelldrake (Allies) = 0
Ethel the Frog (Soviet) = 0
Nelmsm (Allies) =0
JasonPratt (Soviet) = 0
Yskonyn (Allies) = 0
Cyrano (Allies) = 0
Anguille (Soviet) = 0
Round 3
Pacific Theater - 1944-45 Philippines
Shelldrake (Allies) = 5
Iudi1867 (Imperial Japan) = 1
Ethel the Frog (Allies) = 0
Father Ted (Imperial Japan) = 0
Cyrano (Allies) = 0
JasonPratt (Imperial Japan) = 0
Nelmsm (Allies) =0
Yskonyn (Imperial Japan) = 0
Anguille (Allies) = 1
Millipede (Imperial Japan) = 5
Round 4
Weapons and Warfare - 1941-45 Battle for Russia
Shelldrake (Axis) = 3
Ethel the Frog (Soviet) = 1
Anguille (Axis) = 0
JasonPratt (Soviet) = 0
Yskonyn (Axis) = 0
Cyrano (Soviet) = 0
Nelmsm (Axis) = 0
Father Ted (Soviet) = 0
Iudi1867(Axis) = 1
Millipede (Soviet) = 3
Round 5
Patton Drives East - Stalin Drives West
Yskonyn (Soviet) = 0
Millipede(Allies) = 0
Iudi1867 (Soviet) = 0
Father Ted (Allies) = 0
Cyrano (Soviet) = 0
Ethel the Frog (Allies) = 0
Shelldrake (Soviet) = 0
JasonPratt (Allies) = 0
Nelmsm (Soviet) = 0
Anguille (Allies) = 0
Round 6
Pacific Theater - 1944-45 Philippines
JasonPratt (Allies) = 0
Ethel the Frog (Imperial Japan) = 0
Father Ted (Allies) = 0
Cyrano (Imperial Japan) = 0
Anguille (Allies) = 0
Shelldrake (Imperial Japan) = 0
Iudi1867 (Allies) = 5
Nelmsm (Imperial Japan) = 1
Yskonyn (Allies) = 0
Millipede (Imperial Japan) = 0
Overall Score
Millipede = 17
Iudi1867 = 11
Shelldrake = 11
Anguille = 1
Nelmsm =2
Cyrano = 1
Ethel the Frog = 1
Yskonyn = 0
Father Ted = 0
JasonPratt = 1
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Scoring values
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Round 1/4
Weapons and Warfare - 1941-45 Battle for Russia
Victory = 3 points
Draw=2 points
Loss=1 point
Round 2/5
Patton Drives East - Stalin Drives West
Soviet Decisive Victory = 6 points
Soviet Major Victory = 5 points
Soviet Minor Victory = 4 points
Allied Major Victory = 5 points
Allied Minor Victory = 4 points
Draw = 2 points Soviet, 3 points Allied
Loss = 1 point
Round 3/6
Pacific Theater - 1944-45 Philippines
Japanese Major Victory = 5 points
Allied Major Victory = 5 points
Allied Minor Victory = 4 points
Draw = 2 points Allied, 3 Points Japanese
Loss 1 point
Quote from: ludi1867 on October 22, 2018, 02:07:35 PM
I am (sort of) playing Father Ted in Stalin Drives west. I have not seen a turn in a while!
Try emailing or PM'ing him. It may have just fallen under his radar.
I'm back up and running (well, crawling)
@All
Yskonyn has resigned from the competition.
Unless anyone has any objection I propose giving his opponents a full win score, and mark all Yskonyn's games as a loss.
The only other realistic option I can immediately think of is remaining players playing his outstanding games (as a means of raising their aggregate score).
Clearly either proposal is likely to skew the results for some players. I am mindful of this, which is why I am seeking consensus from the players so that this can be done as fairly as possible.
Please voice your thoughts. Unless there are persuasive arguments to the contrary I propose that in a week or so's time I update all Yskonyn's opponents with a full win (the delay to allow you to voice your thoughts).
Since both my remaining games were with Yskonyn, I certainly wouldn't object to getting full points ::) but I would feel a little awkward (for 5 minutes or so). I'll be happy with how everyone else wishes to resolve the situation.
Would it skew the competition if EVERYONE gets a win from him, even in any match he already finished? Seems like that would equalize everything as evenly as possible.
Quote from: JasonPratt on October 31, 2018, 07:36:14 PM
Would it skew the competition if EVERYONE gets a win from him, even in any match he already finished? Seems like that would equalize everything as evenly as possible.
Not bad Jason, not bad at all. Either that or zero points for all games with Yskonyn. Six to one, half a dozen to the other probably. Either way seems a more equitable way to proceed.
Quote from: JasonPratt on October 31, 2018, 07:36:14 PM
Would it skew the competition if EVERYONE gets a win from him, even in any match he already finished? Seems like that would equalize everything as evenly as possible.
I do think this would be the fairest thing to do and will let me get one win
Well as he hasn't completed any, it is the logical result anyway! ;)
And so, per feedback - the "Yskonyn effect" now applies to all his opponents with a max win to opponents and loss score to Ysk...
Round 1
Weapons and Warfare - 1941-45 Battle for Russia
Millipede (Axis) = 3
Nelmsm (Soviet) =1
Cyrano (Axis) = 1
Iudi1867 (Soviet) = 3
Ethel the Frog (Axis) = 3
Yskonyn (Soviet) = 1
Father Ted (Axis) = 0
Anguille (Soviet) = 0
JasonPratt (Axis) = 1
Shelldrake (Soviet) = 3
Round 2
Patton Drives East - Stalin Drives West
Millipede (Soviet) = 6
Iudi1867 (Allies) = 1
Father Ted (Soviet) = 0
Shelldrake (Allies) = 0
Ethel the Frog (Soviet) = 0
Nelmsm (Allies) =0
JasonPratt (Soviet) = 6
Yskonyn (Allies) = 1
Cyrano (Allies) = 0
Anguille (Soviet) = 0
Round 3
Pacific Theater - 1944-45 Philippines
Shelldrake (Allies) = 5
Iudi1867 (Imperial Japan) = 1
Ethel the Frog (Allies) = 0
Father Ted (Imperial Japan) = 0
Cyrano (Allies) = 0
JasonPratt (Imperial Japan) = 0
Nelmsm (Allies) =5
Yskonyn (Imperial Japan) = 1
Anguille (Allies) = 1
Millipede (Imperial Japan) = 5
Round 4
Weapons and Warfare - 1941-45 Battle for Russia
Shelldrake (Axis) = 3
Ethel the Frog (Soviet) = 1
Anguille (Axis) = 0
JasonPratt (Soviet) = 0
Yskonyn (Axis) = 1
Cyrano (Soviet) = 3
Nelmsm (Axis) = 0
Father Ted (Soviet) = 0
Iudi1867(Axis) = 1
Millipede (Soviet) = 3
Round 5
Patton Drives East - Stalin Drives West
Yskonyn (Soviet) = 1
Millipede(Allies) = 5
Iudi1867 (Soviet) = 0
Father Ted (Allies) = 0
Cyrano (Soviet) = 0
Ethel the Frog (Allies) = 0
Shelldrake (Soviet) = 0
JasonPratt (Allies) = 0
Nelmsm (Soviet) = 0
Anguille (Allies) = 0
Round 6
Pacific Theater - 1944-45 Philippines
JasonPratt (Allies) = 0
Ethel the Frog (Imperial Japan) = 0
Father Ted (Allies) = 0
Cyrano (Imperial Japan) = 0
Anguille (Allies) = 0
Shelldrake (Imperial Japan) = 0
Iudi1867 (Allies) = 5
Nelmsm (Imperial Japan) = 1
Yskonyn (Allies) = 1
Millipede (Imperial Japan) = 5
Overall Score
Millipede = 27
Iudi1867 = 11
Shelldrake = 11
Nelmsm =7
JasonPratt = 7
Yskonyn = 6
Cyrano = 4
Ethel the Frog = 4
Anguille = 1
Father Ted = 0
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Scoring values
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Round 1/4
Weapons and Warfare - 1941-45 Battle for Russia
Victory = 3 points
Draw=2 points
Loss=1 point
Round 2/5
Patton Drives East - Stalin Drives West
Soviet Decisive Victory = 6 points
Soviet Major Victory = 5 points
Soviet Minor Victory = 4 points
Allied Major Victory = 5 points
Allied Minor Victory = 4 points
Draw = 2 points Soviet, 3 points Allied
Loss = 1 point
Round 3/6
Pacific Theater - 1944-45 Philippines
Japanese Major Victory = 5 points
Allied Major Victory = 5 points
Allied Minor Victory = 4 points
Draw = 2 points Allied, 3 Points Japanese
Loss 1 point
Just in case we're still doing this... ;)
I'm going to concede my game against Shelldrake. (Um, the one where he's Stalin Driving West.)
I had a strategic theory I was testing, and it just isn't working out. Well, it's working out for Shell but not for me! L:-)
Parts of my theory I think were correct, but couldn't overcome the other parts that were incorrect. As things stand, I'm going to be stuck soon on the western half of the map with Shell controlling all the eastern half and able to logistically outproduce me. There's only one way that ends.
(I also had a problem where I could not for the life of me figure out how to transition ships through the sea lanes. I've had this problem before in this game engine. I even contacted the devs, and their answer confirmed what I thought should work -- except it flat doesn't work. This ended up distracting a significant amount of my British force from defending and counterstriking for too long.)
Lessons learned, and will apply later if I get the chance. :) Congrats to Shell on another win!
Quote from: JasonPratt on December 06, 2018, 02:24:28 PM
Just in case we're still doing this... ;)
I'm going to concede my game against Shelldrake. (Um, the one where he's Stalin Driving West.)
I had a strategic theory I was testing, and it just isn't working out. Well, it's working out for Shell but not for me! L:-)
Parts of my theory I think were correct, but couldn't overcome the other parts that were incorrect. As things stand, I'm going to be stuck soon on the western half of the map with Shell controlling all the eastern half and able to logistically outproduce me. There's only one way that ends.
(I also had a problem where I could not for the life of me figure out how to transition ships through the sea lanes. I've had this problem before in this game engine. I even contacted the devs, and their answer confirmed what I thought should work -- except it flat doesn't work. This ended up distracting a significant amount of my British force from defending and counterstriking for too long.)
Lessons learned, and will apply later if I get the chance. :) Congrats to Shell on another win!
I accept your surrender :) However, I did have some worries that you were going to hold onto the UK and have a staging area to take back the continent. My plan was to take Gibraltar in the next turn or 2 so that my 2 subs in the Med could join with my other subs to interdict your sealanes and scout an invasion route to the US mainland.
My games with Father Ted and Anguille have not progressed - hopefully they will send a new turn this weekend! :-"
Without going into what I still think I did right: the failed part of my theory was that I should focus at first on spending my points on setting up coming improvements. That makes some sense in an early pre-war start; I thought it would make some sense in this start, but I underestimated how weak my starting forces in Europe would be.
Had I been putting more (if not all) of those points into keeping my defensive line alive (where I still had defensive lines), things would have lasted longer.
Shelldrake roars into second place. How safe is he? >:D
Round 1
Weapons and Warfare - 1941-45 Battle for Russia
Millipede (Axis) = 3
Nelmsm (Soviet) =1
Cyrano (Axis) = 1
Iudi1867 (Soviet) = 3
Ethel the Frog (Axis) = 3
Yskonyn (Soviet) = 1
Father Ted (Axis) = 0
Anguille (Soviet) = 0
JasonPratt (Axis) = 1
Shelldrake (Soviet) = 3
Round 2
Patton Drives East - Stalin Drives West
Millipede (Soviet) = 6
Iudi1867 (Allies) = 1
Father Ted (Soviet) = 0
Shelldrake (Allies) = 0
Ethel the Frog (Soviet) = 0
Nelmsm (Allies) =0
JasonPratt (Soviet) = 6
Yskonyn (Allies) = 1
Cyrano (Allies) = 0
Anguille (Soviet) = 0
Round 3
Pacific Theater - 1944-45 Philippines
Shelldrake (Allies) = 5
Iudi1867 (Imperial Japan) = 1
Ethel the Frog (Allies) = 0
Father Ted (Imperial Japan) = 0
Cyrano (Allies) = 0
JasonPratt (Imperial Japan) = 0
Nelmsm (Allies) =5
Yskonyn (Imperial Japan) = 1
Anguille (Allies) = 1
Millipede (Imperial Japan) = 5
Round 4
Weapons and Warfare - 1941-45 Battle for Russia
Shelldrake (Axis) = 3
Ethel the Frog (Soviet) = 1
Anguille (Axis) = 0
JasonPratt (Soviet) = 0
Yskonyn (Axis) = 1
Cyrano (Soviet) = 3
Nelmsm (Axis) = 0
Father Ted (Soviet) = 0
Iudi1867(Axis) = 1
Millipede (Soviet) = 3
Round 5
Patton Drives East - Stalin Drives West
Yskonyn (Soviet) = 1
Millipede(Allies) = 5
Iudi1867 (Soviet) = 0
Father Ted (Allies) = 0
Cyrano (Soviet) = 0
Ethel the Frog (Allies) = 0
Shelldrake (Soviet) = 0
JasonPratt (Allies) = 0
Nelmsm (Soviet) = 0
Anguille (Allies) = 0
Round 6
Pacific Theater - 1944-45 Philippines
JasonPratt (Allies) = 0
Ethel the Frog (Imperial Japan) = 0
Father Ted (Allies) = 0
Cyrano (Imperial Japan) = 0
Anguille (Allies) = 0
Shelldrake (Imperial Japan) = 0
Iudi1867 (Allies) = 5
Nelmsm (Imperial Japan) = 1
Yskonyn (Allies) = 1
Millipede (Imperial Japan) = 5
Overall Score
Millipede = 27
Shelldrake = 17
Iudi1867 = 11
JasonPratt = 8
Nelmsm =7
Yskonyn = 6
Cyrano = 4
Ethel the Frog = 4
Anguille = 1
Father Ted = 0
****************************
Scoring values
****************************
Round 1/4
Weapons and Warfare - 1941-45 Battle for Russia
Victory = 3 points
Draw=2 points
Loss=1 point
Round 2/5
Patton Drives East - Stalin Drives West
Soviet Decisive Victory = 6 points
Soviet Major Victory = 5 points
Soviet Minor Victory = 4 points
Allied Major Victory = 5 points
Allied Minor Victory = 4 points
Draw = 2 points Soviet, 3 points Allied
Loss = 1 point
Round 3/6
Pacific Theater - 1944-45 Philippines
Japanese Major Victory = 5 points
Allied Major Victory = 5 points
Allied Minor Victory = 4 points
Draw = 2 points Allied, 3 Points Japanese
Loss 1 point
Time for some Philippino action!
... ........ ...really, really not a euphamism. :hide:
Quote from: JasonPratt on December 08, 2018, 01:05:32 PM
Time for some Philippino action!
... ........ ...really, really not a euphamism. :hide:
Yeah right... ;) >:D
Father Ted has had some technical issues getting a turn back to me but nothing from Anguille for some time now....
I'm going to pass on the remaining campaigns for two reasons: first, I don't think I can come back to win by now. And second, I just don't like this version of the engine. I don't hate it, but every time I fire it up I wish I was playing a later version.
I had fun with it for free, for a good 23 hours, but I'd rather spend time playing something else.
Thanks for the matches Shelldrake! (I don't think I played anyone else...?)
No worries Jason. I'm glad you enjoyed some of it. :)
Latest update...
Round 1
Weapons and Warfare - 1941-45 Battle for Russia
Millipede (Axis) = 3
Nelmsm (Soviet) =1
Cyrano (Axis) = 1
Iudi1867 (Soviet) = 3
Ethel the Frog (Axis) = 3
Yskonyn (Soviet) = 1
Father Ted (Axis) = 0
Anguille (Soviet) = 0
JasonPratt (Axis) = 1
Shelldrake (Soviet) = 3
Round 2
Patton Drives East - Stalin Drives West
Millipede (Soviet) = 6
Iudi1867 (Allies) = 1
Father Ted (Soviet) = 0
Shelldrake (Allies) = 0
Ethel the Frog (Soviet) = 0
Nelmsm (Allies) =0
JasonPratt (Soviet) = 6
Yskonyn (Allies) = 1
Cyrano (Allies) = 0
Anguille (Soviet) = 0
Round 3
Pacific Theater - 1944-45 Philippines
Shelldrake (Allies) = 5
Iudi1867 (Imperial Japan) = 1
Ethel the Frog (Allies) = 0
Father Ted (Imperial Japan) = 0
Cyrano (Allies) = 5
JasonPratt (Imperial Japan) = 1
Nelmsm (Allies) =5
Yskonyn (Imperial Japan) = 1
Anguille (Allies) = 1
Millipede (Imperial Japan) = 5
Round 4
Weapons and Warfare - 1941-45 Battle for Russia
Shelldrake (Axis) = 3
Ethel the Frog (Soviet) = 1
Anguille (Axis) = 3
JasonPratt (Soviet) = 1
Yskonyn (Axis) = 1
Cyrano (Soviet) = 3
Nelmsm (Axis) = 0
Father Ted (Soviet) = 0
Iudi1867(Axis) = 1
Millipede (Soviet) = 3
Round 5
Patton Drives East - Stalin Drives West
Yskonyn (Soviet) = 1
Millipede(Allies) = 5
Iudi1867 (Soviet) = 0
Father Ted (Allies) = 0
Cyrano (Soviet) = 0
Ethel the Frog (Allies) = 0
Shelldrake (Soviet) = 5
JasonPratt (Allies) = 1
Nelmsm (Soviet) = 0
Anguille (Allies) = 0
Round 6
Pacific Theater - 1944-45 Philippines
JasonPratt (Allies) = 1
Ethel the Frog (Imperial Japan) = 5
Father Ted (Allies) = 0
Cyrano (Imperial Japan) = 0
Anguille (Allies) = 0
Shelldrake (Imperial Japan) = 0
Iudi1867 (Allies) = 5
Nelmsm (Imperial Japan) = 1
Yskonyn (Allies) = 1
Millipede (Imperial Japan) = 5
Overall Score
Millipede = 27
Shelldrake = 22
JasonPratt = 12
Iudi1867 = 11
Cyrano = 9
Ethel the Frog = 9
Nelmsm =7
Yskonyn = 6
Anguille = 4
Father Ted = 0
****************************
Scoring values
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Round 1/4
Weapons and Warfare - 1941-45 Battle for Russia
Victory = 3 points
Draw=2 points
Loss=1 point
Round 2/5
Patton Drives East - Stalin Drives West
Soviet Decisive Victory = 6 points
Soviet Major Victory = 5 points
Soviet Minor Victory = 4 points
Allied Major Victory = 5 points
Allied Minor Victory = 4 points
Draw = 2 points Soviet, 3 points Allied
Loss = 1 point
Round 3/6
Pacific Theater - 1944-45 Philippines
Japanese Major Victory = 5 points
Allied Major Victory = 5 points
Allied Minor Victory = 4 points
Draw = 2 points Allied, 3 Points Japanese
Loss 1 point
Are matches still in progress, or is it time to announce the winner? 8)
I THINK I am playing a match. I have sent an e-mail to Father Ted a couple of times (he is playing the west in Stalin Drives East - ie the loser)
My match with Anguille is progressing; there are currently 15 turns left in the scenario.
I have not heard from Father Ted recently - apparently he was having computer issues - so I am not sure whether he wants to concede the Stalin Drives West match since at this point my British and US forces have air superiority and have already captured Moscow and Kursk. I messaged him a few days ago but have not yet had a response.
Sorry ludi1867 and Shelldrake. There were some technical issues, but mainly I just lost interest in the games tbh. Not sure what happened in my game vs Anguille - I think I was the last one to send a turn, but could easily be wrong. This has been my first go at PBEM (and with a totally unfamiliar game) and I struggled to maintain momentum. And I was losing almost from the get-go - very sore loser here - so SCWW2 fell to the bottom of my things to do in free time.
Bottom line, I'm withdrawing from the competition. Sorry Boggit, and thanks for organising this.
I guess I am NOT playing a match. So wrap it up Boggit
If that is the consensus, I'll wrap it up and announce our winner and runners up for bragging rights!
PS...
Do you guys have any interest in me running another league, as there are quite a few games that are great for PBEM? If so, shout out and suggest what game we run.
Sure!
I wouldn't be completely adverse to running the more modern engine of this. >:D
But I'd be probably okay with other alternatives.
FYI Anguille and I are still playing our match - 9 turns left so we should be finishing soon. So far my Japanese forces have remained in control of Manila and Clarks Field.
Quote from: Boggit on January 29, 2019, 08:49:10 PM
Do you guys have any interest in me running another league, as there are quite a few games that are great for PBEM? If so, shout out and suggest what game we run.
Definitely interested... just depends on the game.
I just concluded my match with Anguille, managing a major victory playing as the Japanese. Thanks for the game Anguille. 8) 8)
And so the final results...
JOINT first with maximum score!!!!
Millipede and Shelldrake ... :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy: :notworthy:
In second place we have Iudi1867 ... \m/ \m/ \m/ \m/
And a very creditable Bronze medal goes to JasonPratt ... O0 O0 O0 O0
Gentlemen, congratulations. I will PM you regarding the prize that Paolo at Slitherine has kindly sponsored.
Round 1
Weapons and Warfare - 1941-45 Battle for Russia
Millipede (Axis) = 3
Nelmsm (Soviet) =1
Cyrano (Axis) = 1
Iudi1867 (Soviet) = 3
Ethel the Frog (Axis) = 3
Yskonyn (Soviet) = 1
Father Ted (Axis) = 0
Anguille (Soviet) = 0
JasonPratt (Axis) = 1
Shelldrake (Soviet) = 3
Round 2
Patton Drives East - Stalin Drives West
Millipede (Soviet) = 6
Iudi1867 (Allies) = 1
Father Ted (Soviet) = 0
Shelldrake (Allies) = 0
Ethel the Frog (Soviet) = 0
Nelmsm (Allies) =0
JasonPratt (Soviet) = 6
Yskonyn (Allies) = 1
Cyrano (Allies) = 0
Anguille (Soviet) = 0
Round 3
Pacific Theater - 1944-45 Philippines
Shelldrake (Allies) = 5
Iudi1867 (Imperial Japan) = 1
Ethel the Frog (Allies) = 0
Father Ted (Imperial Japan) = 0
Cyrano (Allies) = 5
JasonPratt (Imperial Japan) = 1
Nelmsm (Allies) =5
Yskonyn (Imperial Japan) = 1
Anguille (Allies) = 1
Millipede (Imperial Japan) = 5
Round 4
Weapons and Warfare - 1941-45 Battle for Russia
Shelldrake (Axis) = 3
Ethel the Frog (Soviet) = 1
Anguille (Axis) = 3
JasonPratt (Soviet) = 1
Yskonyn (Axis) = 1
Cyrano (Soviet) = 3
Nelmsm (Axis) = 0
Father Ted (Soviet) = 0
Iudi1867(Axis) = 1
Millipede (Soviet) = 3
Round 5
Patton Drives East - Stalin Drives West
Yskonyn (Soviet) = 1
Millipede(Allies) = 5
Iudi1867 (Soviet) = 5
Father Ted (Allies) = 1
Cyrano (Soviet) = 0
Ethel the Frog (Allies) = 0
Shelldrake (Soviet) = 5
JasonPratt (Allies) = 1
Nelmsm (Soviet) = 0
Anguille (Allies) = 0
Round 6
Pacific Theater - 1944-45 Philippines
JasonPratt (Allies) = 1
Ethel the Frog (Imperial Japan) = 5
Father Ted (Allies) = 0
Cyrano (Imperial Japan) = 0
Anguille (Allies) = 1
Shelldrake (Imperial Japan) = 5
Iudi1867 (Allies) = 5
Nelmsm (Imperial Japan) = 1
Yskonyn (Allies) = 1
Millipede (Imperial Japan) = 5
Overall Score
Millipede = 27
Shelldrake = 27
Iudi1867 = 16
JasonPratt = 12
Cyrano = 9
Ethel the Frog = 9
Nelmsm =7
Yskonyn = 6
Anguille = 5
Father Ted = 1
****************************
Scoring values
****************************
Round 1/4
Weapons and Warfare - 1941-45 Battle for Russia
Victory = 3 points
Draw=2 points
Loss=1 point
Round 2/5
Patton Drives East - Stalin Drives West
Soviet Decisive Victory = 6 points
Soviet Major Victory = 5 points
Soviet Minor Victory = 4 points
Allied Major Victory = 5 points
Allied Minor Victory = 4 points
Draw = 2 points Soviet, 3 points Allied
Loss = 1 point
Round 3/6
Pacific Theater - 1944-45 Philippines
Japanese Major Victory = 5 points
Allied Major Victory = 5 points
Allied Minor Victory = 4 points
Draw = 2 points Allied, 3 Points Japanese
Loss 1 point
@the Victors
Check your PM inboxes for the "Paglianti Prize". :)
Once again congratulations on your results. :notworthy:
Thanks Boggit for hosting and thank you Paolo and Slitherine for graciously providing prizes.
Quote from: Millipede on March 05, 2019, 05:20:39 PM
Thanks Boggit for hosting and thank you Paolo and Slitherine for graciously providing prizes.
+1 It was great fun! Thanks to all and I look forward to the next competition.
+11!1! ;D
+1+1+1