Found this today on Rock/Paper/Shotgun. https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2019/08/19/amplitude-studios-announce-humankind/
Very cool! :dreamer:
:clap:
Amplitude's games are so well done. This should be good.
I love Amplitude's work. I wonder how it will be different from Endless Legend?
Oh dear.
The trailer doesn't make me feel any younger
I appreciate the reference, be it on purpose or not... :notworthy:
Quote from: The_Admiral on August 20, 2019, 01:21:23 AM
Oh dear.
The trailer doesn't make me feel any younger
I appreciate the reference, be it on purpose or not... :notworthy:
Watched this a lot as a kid....my favourite was however the sequel in space.
Looks excellent...hate the name though.
Quote from: Gusington on August 20, 2019, 06:21:05 AM
Looks excellent...hate the name though.
Yeah...the name isn't great.
Financed by 'The Human Fund.'
Little more info including a link to an interview with the developers.
https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2019/08/29/a-first-look-at-humankind-amplitudes-new-historical-4x-beast/ (https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2019/08/29/a-first-look-at-humankind-amplitudes-new-historical-4x-beast/)
Interesting they say this is the game they formed their studio to make, the previous Endless games were made to learn how to do it right.
Quote from: RedArgo on August 30, 2019, 03:48:04 PM
Interesting they say this is the game they formed their studio to make, the previous Endless games were made to learn how to do it right.
Sounds like bollocks to me, for three reasons. One, they put a
shitload of effort into the Endless universe and all its lore - only to ultimately throw it away to make a Civ clone? Two, the Dungeons of the Endless diversion. Three, their previous games have all been ambitious as hell. This game seems less ambitious.
But hey, who cares. I'm not particularly invested, myself. The Endless games are interesting but ultimately over-engineered in my opinion.
Quote from: Huw the Poo on August 30, 2019, 05:05:01 PM
Quote from: RedArgo on August 30, 2019, 03:48:04 PM
Interesting they say this is the game they formed their studio to make, the previous Endless games were made to learn how to do it right.
Sounds like bollocks to me, for three reasons. One, they put a shitload of effort into the Endless universe and all its lore - only to ultimately throw it away to make a Civ clone? Two, the Dungeons of the Endless diversion. Three, their previous games have all been ambitious as hell. This game seems less ambitious.
But hey, who cares. I'm not particularly invested, myself. The Endless games are interesting but ultimately over-engineered in my opinion.
Huw....just curious, what do you mean by over-engineered?
There are too many systems within systems. They tried to do way too much, and made the games more complicated than they needed to be. Endless Space 2 is particularly bad for this.
...and another video trailer. It looks real purty.
It does look pretty, they are very good at GFX at the very least.
Look forward to have something different to Sid Meier's Civs....i think there's enough room for more than just one.
^Me too. Still have not bought Civ VI because of the cartooniness of it, and the look of Humankind soothes by decaying black soul. I still don't like the title, though.
For the next 20 hours Civ-VI is on sale on Steam. The base game is 75% off, $14.99 and the Platinum Edition is 72% off, $47.75.
Quote from: Labbug on December 13, 2019, 04:23:45 PM
For the next 20 hours Civ-VI is on sale on Steam. The base game is 75% off, $14.99 and the Platinum Edition is 72% off, $47.75.
Should i get gathering storm or not?
Yes.
Quote from: Anguille on December 14, 2019, 01:07:10 AM
Quote from: Labbug on December 13, 2019, 04:23:45 PM
For the next 20 hours Civ-VI is on sale on Steam. The base game is 75% off, $14.99 and the Platinum Edition is 72% off, $47.75.
Should i get gathering storm or not?
Without a doubt a full volumed YES!
Thanks for the advice lads :bd:
Quote from: Anguille on December 13, 2019, 10:39:24 AM
Look forward to have something different to Sid Meier's Civs....i think there's enough room for more than just one.
Agreed. I just wish I had more faith in Amplitude's ability to actually pull this off. I just cannot get into their Endless games.
Quote from: Martok on December 21, 2019, 02:25:04 AM
Quote from: Anguille on December 13, 2019, 10:39:24 AM
Look forward to have something different to Sid Meier's Civs....i think there's enough room for more than just one.
Agreed. I just wish I had more faith in Amplitude's ability to actually pull this off. I just cannot get into their Endless games.
I found it easier to get into Endless Legend...
Their games are...dense. With lore, with back story, with faction info, with tech info...etc. So I hear you.
But I think if their next game is historical I will be able to get into it easier than their fantasy or scifi games.
I really like Endless Legends and I still play it. But I found both of the Endless Space titles severely lacking. Their combat mode is the most deficient of several features I found inadequate.
Quote from: solops on December 21, 2019, 01:36:09 PM
I really like Endless Legends and I still play it. But I found both of the Endless Space titles severely lacking. Their combat mode is the most deficient of several features I found inadequate.
Yeah, the combat in ES1 and ES2 was a big part of the turnoff for me as well. I'm also not a fan of the small map sizes.
I've not played Endless Legend, as it's never appealed to me in the first place. Something about its art style, combined with the low-fantasy setting, made it a non-starter for me.
...from RPS (https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/2020/03/13/humankinds-cities-will-evolve-and-sprawl-based-on-your-choices-like-real-metropolises/):
Honestly, I'm not a fan of the visual sprawl of cities spreading across half the map. I much prefer to claim territory the way Age of Wonders: Planetfall or Fallen Enchantress: Legendary Heroes does.
Yeah, that video actually turned me off from the game. I'm not interested in covering the world in one what appears to be one big megacity. That just looks dumb.
I've really been making an effort to not comment on Humankind since it was announced, as 1.) I don't want to poo-poo it before it's even out, and 2.) the Civilization franchise badly needs real competition to jolt it out of its lethargy. What I've seen of this game thus far has not impressed me, though: There are a lot of neat-sounding concepts that get mentioned, but then seem pretty lame in the actual details/execution.
I want to be wrong, and I may very well be so. But I already know that I won't purchase Humankind until long after it's released.
I want you to be wrong too! BE MORE WRONG
It's not in space and it's not real time like Stellaris which would really limit the multiplayer side of the game. It's hard to play a turn based game in a multiplayer setting with more than two people. I have had games with six people in stellaris, saved them part way through and come back to them.
Those two factors I think, will really limit the playerbase.
Quote from: Gusington on March 14, 2020, 06:14:35 PM
I want you to be wrong too! BE MORE WRONG
Well I often am, so I wouldn't fret overly much. ;)
Plus, as I've mentioned before/elsewhere, I'm not a fan of Amplitude's products, so my critiques should definitely be taken with at least a grain of salt or two. I just cannot get into their games, no matter how much I want to. I love that they're passionate about making strategy games, but the ones they make simply don't appeal to me.
Quote from: Destraex on March 14, 2020, 07:24:17 PM
It's not in space and it's not real time like Stellaris which would really limit the multiplayer side of the game. It's hard to play a turn based game in a multiplayer setting with more than two people. I have had games with six people in stellaris, saved them part way through and come back to them.
Those two factors I think, will really limit the playerbase.
I'll play devil's advocate and disagree with you. I predict that won't have any significant impact, negatively or otherwise.
While the MP community of any 4x game is often vocal, it generally makes up only a very small percentage of the total player-base. Thus, regardless of how enjoyable (or not) Humankind's MP ends up being, its affect on the the size of the games player-base (and/or amount of sales) will be minimal.
Martok, do you disagree with my first point, my hypothesis that sci-fi is more popular than an ancient setting?
With regard to multiplayer, I really do think that Stellaris has a larger multiplayer community than those 4x games that came before. As with any game that is not purely multiplayer, it will have a much larger single player community. I agree with that. However I think that a strong multiplayer community is a catalyst for success. Because the social aspect of a strong multiplayer community will ensure huge multimedia coverage at every turn throughout the life of the game. Which in turn will feed single player sales as well as bringing on more multiplayer people.
So when I say Stellaris has a larger multiplayer community than most of it's type, I mean that this new game, I just cannot see having a community like that to help it's sales. It's an advantage I think real time 4x games have and something that I would say is one of the key ingredients to being better than Stellaris.
From my perspective, a major motivator for people is the possibility that even though you buy it intending to learn and play primarily in single player mode, that you have the option to enjoy it with friends and therefore will talk with friends about it. Enriching the experience considerably.
Now you may be right, single player games may sell more copies than multiplayer games. But I would be interested to see the difference in figures for comparable games with and without a strong multiplayer offering.
Quote from: Destraex on March 14, 2020, 10:01:41 PM
Martok, do you disagree with my first point, my hypothesis that sci-fi is more popular than an ancient setting?
Argh, sorry. No, I was referring to the virtues of turn-based vs. real-time as it applies to MP in 4x/grand-strategy games.
That being said, I partially and/or potentially disagree with that statement as well, depending on how precisely you care to parse things (I feel like I'm entering JP-levels of detail/explanation here)...
If you're referring specifically to 4x titles, then yes I would agree that those with science-fiction settings (especially ones in space) are more popular than 4x games set in ancient history. (The Civilization franchise doesn't count, since the games cover all historical eras.) That is overwhelmingly apparent.
If, however, you're referring more generally to grand-strategy games -- which typically include 4x games under its umbrella -- then the question becomes a lot murkier. The success & popularity of the Total War franchise, Paradox's various historical titles (Crusader Kings, Europa Universalis, etc.), and older series like Imperialism and Lords of the Realm make a pretty compelling counter-argument.
Quote from: Destraex on March 14, 2020, 10:01:41 PMWith regard to multiplayer, I really do think that Stellaris has a larger multiplayer community than those 4x games that came before. As with any game that is not purely multiplayer, it will have a much larger single player community. I agree with that. However I think that a strong multiplayer community is a catalyst for success. Because the social aspect of a strong multiplayer community will ensure huge multimedia coverage at every turn throughout the life of the game. Which in turn will feed single player sales as well as bringing on more multiplayer people.
So when I say Stellaris has a larger multiplayer community than most of it's type, I mean that this new game, I just cannot see having a community like that to help it's sales. It's an advantage I think real time 4x games have and something that I would say is one of the key ingredients to being better than Stellaris.
From my perspective, a major motivator for people is the possibility that even though you buy it intending to learn and play primarily in single player mode, that you have the option to enjoy it with friends and therefore will talk with friends about it. Enriching the experience considerably.
Now you may be right, single player games may sell more copies than multiplayer games. But I would be interested to see the difference in figures for comparable games with and without a strong multiplayer offering.
All fair points. I would be interested in those figures as well.
Very long discussion here! Nice.
I have had my share of struggle to enjoy the games by Amplitute. I think they have some of the best artwork and music on the market. From gameplay point of view, i don't think that they are that good but the games have involved a lot. After some effort to understand the game, Endless Space 2 is a very cool game and much better than Stellaris.
Now, i won't mind the bigger cities if the maps are big enough.
On MP: i also don't think that 4x are great for that and that the majority plays single play as it just takes too much time.
Also, i fully agree with Martok...it's been far too long since Civilization games had any type of competition.
I can't say I enjoy their games because I haven't had the time to really learn them but I respect the obvious hard work they put into them. Still looking forward to Humankind (and a title change for it).
Another casualty of COVID19. But the devs are going to have an OpenDev (https://www.bluesnews.com/s/212035/humankind-delayed) over the summer.
"Register for the chance to get access to three time-limited scenarios focusing on specific core features of the game (exploration, tactical battles, basic city management). Throughout the summer, scenarios will be released one at a time, and additional players will gain access with each new scenario drop. Any new access granted will include access to all the previous scenarios."
Still an Epic exclusive?
Unlocking on Steam on Aug 17. Fanatical currently has Digital Deluxe version for $42 (https://www.fanatical.com/en/game/humankind-digital-deluxe-edition).
Myself, I think I'm going to wait on this one for a bit.
p.s. mods can maybe change OP thread title?
p.p.s Martok, long time no see?
Does anyone know if players can choose which eras they play through? If I want to play only until the medieval or renaissance eras, can I do that?
And don't be stupid like me.....pre-ordered and then find out coming out as part of the GamePass subscription service which I own:) $40 down the drain.......
I'll pay you 40.01 for the code 😎
$40.02
:nerd:
Reviews of Humankind are starting to come out. Here's a couple:
https://www.pcgamer.com/humankind-review/
https://www.pcgamesn.com/humankind/review
Not sure it sounds different enough from the Civilization games to get me to open my wallet now...maybe way on down the line during a sale.
The RPS review came out today, and while the reviewer purported to love it, I didn't find what he said about the game very enticing. For example:
QuoteIn a recent game I played, picking the Zhou in the Ancient slot and spamming confucian schools next to mountains led to my research rate multiplying by a cool 10,000% in the space of a few turns. It seemed abjectly silly. This meant, however, that I researched every technology available in a flash, leaving me with the option of either rushing an era advance before the optimum point, or continuing on through the ancient era with a load of expensive research districts doing absolutely nothing. Moderation, it turned out, would have served me a lot better than min-maxing.
His point is that the devs punish you if you try to jack the game around with exploits, but really shouldn't the exploits not be possible? I don't want a game that lets me research things 100X faster than normal. That's absurd, and it's the kind of thing that turns me off a game.
I have really been looking forward to this game, but at this point I'm waiting for reviews.
I thought the PCGamer review was a lot better than the RPS one.
Quote from: glen55 on August 16, 2021, 04:11:48 PM
I have really been looking forward to this game, but at this point I'm waiting for reviews.
https://www.gamesradar.com/au/humankind-review/
https://www.gamewatcher.com/reviews/humankind-review/13291
https://www.ign.com/articles/humankind-review-4x-strategy-game
https://www.nme.com/reviews/game-reviews/humankind-review-war-never-changes-3020120
https://www.pcgamer.com/humankind-review/
https://www.pcgamesn.com/humankind/review
https://www.pcinvasion.com/humankind-review-4x-pc/
https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/humankind-pc-review
Quote from: Pete Dero on August 17, 2021, 02:49:05 AM
Quote from: glen55 on August 16, 2021, 04:11:48 PM
I have really been looking forward to this game, but at this point I'm waiting for reviews.
https://www.gamesradar.com/au/humankind-review/
https://www.gamewatcher.com/reviews/humankind-review/13291
https://www.ign.com/articles/humankind-review-4x-strategy-game
https://www.nme.com/reviews/game-reviews/humankind-review-war-never-changes-3020120
https://www.pcgamer.com/humankind-review/
https://www.pcgamesn.com/humankind/review
https://www.pcinvasion.com/humankind-review-4x-pc/
https://www.rockpapershotgun.com/humankind-pc-review
Appreciate it. I read 'em all and I think I'll wait for a price cut.
It does sound like some of the problems can be patched out. And I'm not that concerned about the bugginess. But there's a general consensus that this is not the Next Big Thing in 4X, it's just another 4X with really good graphics.
Ok. I bought it with the small 17% discount. I am too old to worry about waiting for a good discount on a game that I KNOW that I AM going to eventually buy. After fiddling with it I have a few observations.
1. For me, it does not have the instant, addictive "just one more turn" narcotic appeal, though it seems to be very good. It may well grow on me.
2. Do not put any credence into any reviews at this time. It is far, far too deep and complex for any of these reviewers or beta testers to have a clue as to how the game really, really stacks up.
3. There WILL be a lot of changes coming via patches. I have had no bugs so far, but it is inevitable that a lot of little problems will pop up and get fixed over the next few weeks. The first patch was today. I have the feeling that there is a lot of balance tweaking that will come after that.
Overall, I think we probably have a good, finished product that is too new and complex to be finely polished or balanced. Over time it will be and it may well be quite superior to what we have now. As to what we have now, I am really not sure. There is just too much to learn and test. It will take hundreds of hours of play time to really evaluate this thing.
For the record I disliked both of Amplitude's Endless Space games but I love and still play Endless Legends. This game seems more like Endless Legends, but with a lot of new systems in place for historical advancement, culture and religion.
Quote from: solops on August 18, 2021, 04:13:21 PM
Ok. I bought it with the small 17% discount. I am too old to worry about waiting for a good discount on a game that I KNOW that I AM going to eventually buy. After fiddling with it I have a few observations.
1. For me, it does not have the instant, addictive "just one more turn" narcotic appeal, though it seems to be very good. It may well grow on me.
2. Do not put any credence into any reviews at this time. It is far, far too deep and complex for any of these reviewers or beta testers to have a clue as to how the game really, really stacks up.
3. There WILL be a lot of changes coming via patches. I have had no bugs so far, but it is inevitable that a lot of little problems will pop up and get fixed over the next few weeks. The first patch was today. I have the feeling that there is a lot of balance tweaking that will come after that.
Overall, I think we probably have a good, finished product that is too new and complex to be finely polished or balanced. Over time it will be and it may well be quite superior to what we have now. As to what we have now, I am really not sure. There is just too much to learn and test. It will take hundreds of hours of play time to really evaluate this thing.
For the record I disliked both of Amplitude's Endless Space games but I love and still play Endless Legends. This game seems more like Endless Legends, but with a lot of new systems in place for historical advancement, culture and religion.
Thanks for the update and, if you can, keep them coming. I'm old too, but with my limited gaming budget I wait for better sales down the road. This is a genre of game I enjoy so it is most likely a buy for me some time later. And yes, I also enjoyed Endless Legends.
A YouTube review, 26 minutes long. In a nutshell....this is the famous Civ series blended into the Endless Legends engine. It looks stunning and is a mix of the two games. Haven't finished watching the review yet so I haven't gotten to his final opinion. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-zXJmjz9wGM
Thought this Steam review was interesting.
Quote
I get why they decided to do it this way. Mao Zhedong fighting Napoleon with war elephants in 1000BC was always a bit of a running joke in the old Civ games. So instead of playing a single civ from start to finish, Humankind has you switching to a different civ every time you advance to the next age.
The result is a complete sense of schizophrenia and alienation. You start as Egypt, then turn into Rome, then become England, Korea, then France. Meanwhile, they're all being led by the same blonde pale dude (your avatar), cosplaying and looking super out-of-place half the time. Your cities are still called Memphis, Thebes, etc. The architecture just bizarrely changes from Egyptian to Roman, then suddenly East Asian, then suddenly European again. There's absolutely no sense of consistency, theme, or ownership. Pretty soon, you're just minmaxing the abstract game mechanics, getting your numbers up, and stomping the other nondescript, schizophrenic cosplayers without any feeling of leading a people through history.
Meanwhile, the same thing is happening with your neighbors: you start next to Harrappans (ancient Indians), so you've gotten used to thinking of them as Indians. You're intuitively expecting an Indian culture to be developing next to you. But now they're Celts. And now they're suddenly something else. The idiot on the other side is Mycenean-Hun-Polish-Aztec-Whateverthehell. You feel no sense of relatability or connection to the other civs, because you don't even know how you're supposed to visualize them in your head. Pretty soon, you're only killing them or ignoring them.
Ironically, this approach also gives you less, not more freedom. Want to play England? Nope, wait until the middle ages. Want to play Russia? Wait until the game is nearly over. On the highest difficulty settings, you also have to be mindful of the bonuses/abilities each civ gives you, which further restricts you to only a couple options that are actually viable in your situation.
On that note, Humankind also sacrificed one of the main things that gave the old Civ games so much of their personality - the cast of historical leaders. You won't get to feel that gravitas and weight of dealing with Alexander Macedon, Chingis Khan, or Lenin. Instead, the aforementioned schizophrenic, faceless cosplayers periodically disturb your minmaxing, forcing you to remember who the hell they're supposed to be during this particular five-minute interval.
This is 180 degrees from the incredibly diverse, flavorful factions in Endless Legend and Endless Space 2, where you really feel that you're playing a very distinct faction with its own special character and feeling, surrounded by other interesting people. Amplitude rejected one of the main things that made their games so good.
The aesthetics also rub me the wrong way, although I have the same complaint about Civ 6. The avatars are fidgeting and grimacing like BuzzFeed eunuchs, not world leaders. The art is happy-campy-colorful, which forms a surreal backdrop to the war, starvation, industrial pollution, and tyranny that is supposedly unfolding in front of you. The game seems to struggle to take itself seriously, which doesn't exactly help the player take it seriously.
The underlying mechanics are mostly very solid, Amplitude knows what they're doing as always. There's a well-made game somewhere underneath all that. Unfortunately, that's not enough to salvage a game devoid of any immersion or sense of investment.
I have to make this a thumbs down, because these problems can't be patched out or fixed with DLC. I'm a big respecter of Amplitude and it hurts like hell to criticize them, but Humankind doesn't live up to their previous games.
I apologize for being verbose.
^I think they took a chance at trying something new, and it sounds like it just doesn't work. That's a painfully honest review from someone who clearly had high hopes and wanted to like the game.
Still, Amplitude gets points for taking risks, as always.
That is a great review above and lists many of the things I never liked about Civ but just couldn't express. Rocket mounted French elephants in 1000 BC always made me sad.
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on August 19, 2021, 07:58:07 PM
^I think they took a chance at trying something new, and it sounds like it just doesn't work. That's a painfully honest review from someone who clearly had high hopes and wanted to like the game.
Still, Amplitude gets points for taking risks, as always.
I would agree with this. I am experiencing a bit of temporal confusion and a lack of continuity. That review sums up some problems. These issues also make things less than intuitive. The graphics are ok with me, though.
Excellent review and encapsulates perfectly why I decided to give this a pass. It also explains my problem with the Civ series of fighting pikemen with tanks.... :(
Old World to me seems far more appealing for the above reasons and I am waiting to be able to buy it on Steam as Epic is still no go for me.
^We must be related.
Good thing I read that review. I was literally about to pull the trigger and buy until I decided to check here first. Now I'm thinking of holding off on Humankind. Gotta watch some more LPs as well.
@Gusington, @Jarhead0331, @Rayfer
Anyway way we can get the title of this Civ-like game added to the thread title or do someone need to just start a new thread? Thx...
Thanks JH. O0
I am going to have to set this one aside for a while as I am beginning to run into too many issues as I progress. In addition to lacking good summary screens detailing all of the important information in a concise way with the relevant influences on that data, I have begun bumping into some really bad things that are either out and out flaws or outrageous game design decisions. The latest is a notification that I am about to lose the whole effing game because of my pop's low war support rating for my war against the Huns. Never heard a peep about that before. It is especially puzzzling because I am not at war with the Huns. They are not only my best trading partner but in an alliance with me. I am not at war with anyone. Stuff like this is just killing the game for me.
So consensus is this is not finished? Or just not good enough? I do like a good CIV style game :(
Quote from: FlickJax on September 09, 2021, 02:36:34 AM
So consensus is this is not finished? Or just not good enough? I do like a good CIV style game :(
Currently, Humankind is very similar to its source of inspiration (Civ VI) with some new ideas that either have too limited an impact on the game play or are not very well developed yet.
Eg. you can stay in your current era to collect more points or fame but then you will fall behind the competition and you will almost always lose later.
A good game but not the CIV VI killer some hoped for. Maybe patching or (free ?) DLC can help that.
Agreed. The whole "era" mechanic is awful. Too many gamey and immersion-killing mechanics. It needs a LOT of work before it's something I can play for hours.
My game magazine recommends 'Old World' as an alternative.
https://mohawkgames.com/oldworld/
Requires Epic account :(.
Steam release could become available mid 2022.
I picked up Old World just about 2 weeks ago and I've been playing it pretty constantly since. I like it so far. I've read some complaining about the graphics and saying they look a bit dated but I personally like them. I was never a fan of the cartoonish style that Civ adopted. Old World has a much more grounded style with a more natural colour pallet and unit, terrain, and character art depicting a realistic style. The music is great and I like the fact that you have to research a tech before you can listen to it. The AI is very challenging and I've yet to actually complete a full game as one or more of the AI nations ends up grinding me to dust. I'm not sure if the AI cheats but I suspect that it does. They seem to possess massive numbers of units.
I'm hoping that there will be some expansions for the game as it is already starting to feel a bit limited to me. I'm seeing a fair number of repeats when it comes to events and dialogue choices. I'd also like to see a few more wonders and tech options. Having the game limited to the ancient/classical realm allows it to have a more detailed view of the time than Civ does but the tech trees and wonders don't really reflect this. I'd also like to see a more detailed breakdown of your empire. It can take a bit of drilling down to find all the stats of a unit, leader, or building and it's not always clear what the positives and negatives are or what the interplay is between terrain, building, governor, and family type. Figuring it all out is part of the fun though.
I too dislike the cartoony look of Civ VI. I got over it for a while but it crept back :/
Old World sounds like it has some fascinating concepts in it. Maybe it deserves a thread of its own?
Quote from: FarAway Sooner on September 14, 2021, 01:30:47 PM
Old World sounds like it has some fascinating concepts in it. Maybe it deserves a thread of its own?
http://www.grogheads.com/forums/index.php?topic=24431.0
Quote from: Gusington on September 14, 2021, 12:00:26 PM
I too dislike the cartoony look of Civ VI. I got over it for a while but it crept back :/
I'll never get over it. :'( Bring back CIV1 - I loved the intro of that game :smitten:
My first Civ game was Civ II, on the original Playstation of all things. I don't think I have ever seen the intro to the original.
Wish I'd never sold my copy of Civ I >:(
Quote from: steve58 on September 15, 2021, 12:23:04 PM
Wish I'd never sold my copy of Civ I >:(
Dang man. That's like having sold a first press Judas Priest album back in the day. :(
I used to have Civ I on NES. Fond memories.
Quote from: W8taminute on September 17, 2021, 08:36:56 AM
I used to have Civ I on NES. Fond memories.
Yeah, well this game is gonna leave you seriously short of fond memories. It needs some major fixes and my bet is that the devs are too impressed with their own cleverness to fix the stuff that needs changing.
Quote from: solops on September 20, 2021, 07:11:04 PM
Quote from: W8taminute on September 17, 2021, 08:36:56 AM
I used to have Civ I on NES. Fond memories.
Yeah, well this game is gonna leave you seriously short of fond memories. It needs some major fixes and my bet is that the devs are too impressed with their own cleverness to fix the stuff that needs changing.
Oh yeah based on what people have been saying both here and elsewhere I won't get this game.
I note that the average review on Steam has dropped from "Mostly Positive" to "Mixed". I have seen no indication that Amplitude plans to address the issues that bothered me the most.
Anyone playing Humankind? Toying with the idea of picking it up on sale :tophat:
Nope. Still gathering dust, I have not seen that Amplitude fix the way they had wars and some other stuff set up. If they have, let me know. I found "Old World" to be a better civ-game.
^Thanks. I love Old World and will be playing it again soon, lots of updates to it since I last played. I do suck at it though :ThumbsUp:
What was it about the wars that irked you?
I see this game at 80% off on Steam. Anyone like and recommend?