Microsoft Flight Simulator...

[Yskonyn]

I'll wait for a while too.
Once a third party 'own your little aviation business' becomes available I will begin showing some more interest.
Or a cool mission pack with , for example, bush pilot campaign, fire fighting, etc.
Just going from A to B in bad weather isn't my thing for a sim anymore. 😊
I'll stick with DCS. But man alive! I wish DCS had those graphics and weather engine!
Very curious to find out the verdict on the new vanilla FS, though!
PCGamer already hinted that it might be a typical FS release; in highest detail there is no pc yet that can run the thing at a solid 60 or even 30 fps in high density environments.

[Grim.Reaper]

Well after 11 hour download...have to say very impressed at least graphically and the airports and such.  I was able to take off from my tiny local airport and the surroundings were extremely familiar.  I could tell as I flew over my high school:)  I'll never be good at actually flying, but can see myself just looking around my neighborhood:)

[steve58]

Downloading now...it will be awhile.  I didn't purchase it, comes included with my GamePass subscription so low risk for me, especially since I usually stink at these things....we'll see.

Just an FYI note that you can get Xbox Game Pass for PC for $1 intro price for the 1st month.  Regular price of $4.99/month after that (don't forget to cancel if you don't want to continue).  Probably requires a cc, but still, looks like a real cheap way to give MSFS 2020 a test flight or two...

[Grim.Reaper]

Downloading now...it will be awhile.  I didn't purchase it, comes included with my GamePass subscription so low risk for me, especially since I usually stink at these things....we'll see.

Just an FYI note that you can get Xbox Game Pass for PC for $1 intro price for the 1st month.  Regular price of $4.99/month after that (don't forget to cancel if you don't want to continue).  Probably requires a cc, but still, looks like a real cheap way to give MSFS 2020 a test flight or two...

Yep, I already own the GamePass, have used for quite some time....really good value (even for the $5) in my opinion and used it for this game.

[Jarhead0331]

Impressed. It is a very polished product.

[RyanE]

I have been flying around on MSFS20 for most of the day.  It is amazing and you are missing out if you don't at least try it at the lowest cost.  My son is a pilot and has spent hundreds, if not thousands, of dollars on XPlane in its various versions plus add-ons.  He came over after a few hours of playing around with it and said he may never start up XPlane again.

I have spent hours and hours helping him optimize XPlane's various versions on his rig (i7-9XXX and GFX 1660 ti custom desktop).  And even on Ultra, MSFS20 way out perfroms Xplane's recent Vulcan beta build in almost all sim locales.  Dropping down to High settings and there is no contest. 

The best part is they spent a lot of time and research on the UI.  Its simple, yet gets complex things done.  I wish wargaming companies could take some inspiration from it.

[Yskonyn]

It gets high praise all around it seems. New benchmark of flightsimming many even call it.
Aparently the developer also has a 10 year roadmap planned out to nuture and grow the sim or 'platform' as they call it.
It's looking good!
A friend of mine, who isn't normally into sims, even bought a yoke and is now using my old ch pedals. He seems to be a serious convert. :)

[Pete Dero]

https://www.pcgamer.com/the-gaming-hardware-doesnt-yet-exist-to-make-microsoft-flight-sim-really-shine/



From my time with a review copy of Microsoft Flight Simulator, and a gaming PC that matches the ideal specs, I can attest to this game's overwhelming system demands.

It's all right there in the gameplay: a resplendent and engrossing world, on an immense scale, which has been reproduced to the minute details.
And that's why Microsoft Flight Sim sits a cut above the rest. It's brutal, and it's got some launch day teething problems that are in immediate need of attention, but it's justified—Flight Sim is a videogame so unimaginable large and fully-realised, it's worthy of building an entire system around.

[planetbrain]

According to Steam, I've played this for 9 hrs. Actually all I've done so far is download and rough install (no fine tuning options).
What a monster game! What a huge amount of disk space! Certainly the biggest single download ever for me. Over 1Tb download, I think.

[Grim.Reaper]

According to Steam, I've played this for 9 hrs. Actually all I've done so far is download and rough install (no fine tuning options).
What a monster game! What a huge amount of disk space! Certainly the biggest single download ever for me. Over 1Tb download, I think.

1TB for the core game?  That seems like a lot since when I downloaded it was only like 90GB (still bigger than most things).  Last year's call of duty still the largest for me where I think it was 150GB or so.

[hellfish6]

I hadn't been too interested in this (nothing goes boom) until Youtube threw some videos at me that looked interesting. Now, strangely, I'm thoroughly entranced by this entire world thing and am not put off in any way that the planes look goofy without camouflage. I watched a video of someone flying from one end of the Panama Canal to the other and it was stunningly beautiful. I haven't been able to travel all year and I'm feeling very closed off. I doubt MSFS will work well on my laptop, but I'm definitely interested. I'm even considering building a tower just for this (and DCS/SB), which is something I haven't had in almost ten years.

And now that I've browsed the back catalog of FSX addons, I can see that there will probably be many planes I've always been keen on (P-2 Neptune, PBM Mariner, S-2 Tracker, A-3D, etc.) that will likely become available. I've got no interest in Cessnas or Airbuses, but gimme a big old Navy plane and I can be happy.

[Jarhead0331]

According to Steam, I've played this for 9 hrs. Actually all I've done so far is download and rough install (no fine tuning options).
What a monster game! What a huge amount of disk space! Certainly the biggest single download ever for me. Over 1Tb download, I think.

1TB for the core game?  That seems like a lot since when I downloaded it was only like 90GB (still bigger than most things).  Last year's call of duty still the largest for me where I think it was 150GB or so.

LoL...yeah, this is not a 1 TB download. It's less than 100 GB.

[Pete Dero]

According to Steam, I've played this for 9 hrs. Actually all I've done so far is download and rough install (no fine tuning options).
What a monster game! What a huge amount of disk space! Certainly the biggest single download ever for me. Over 1Tb download, I think.

1TB for the core game?  That seems like a lot since when I downloaded it was only like 90GB (still bigger than most things).  Last year's call of duty still the largest for me where I think it was 150GB or so.

LoL...yeah, this is not a 1 TB download. It's less than 100 GB.

The game downloads the scenery while you fly (the reason ideal specs mention Bandwidth : 50 Mbps).  Doesn't this data remain on your PC or is this downloaded again when you fly the same area the next day ?

If there is no need to download it again you could collect more than 1TB on your HD after you took a trip around the world.

[Grim.Reaper]

According to Steam, I've played this for 9 hrs. Actually all I've done so far is download and rough install (no fine tuning options).
What a monster game! What a huge amount of disk space! Certainly the biggest single download ever for me. Over 1Tb download, I think.

1TB for the core game?  That seems like a lot since when I downloaded it was only like 90GB (still bigger than most things).  Last year's call of duty still the largest for me where I think it was 150GB or so.

LoL...yeah, this is not a 1 TB download. It's less than 100 GB.

The game downloads the scenery while you fly (the reason ideal specs mention Bandwidth : 50 Mbps).  Doesn't this data remain on your PC or is this downloaded again when you fly the same area the next day ?

If there is no need to download it again you could collect more than 1TB on your HD after you took a trip around the world.

Maybe, don't know.  But the original post implied the initial core game download was 1 TB, not including add-ons, mods, scenery, etc.

[Jarhead0331]

According to Steam, I've played this for 9 hrs. Actually all I've done so far is download and rough install (no fine tuning options).
What a monster game! What a huge amount of disk space! Certainly the biggest single download ever for me. Over 1Tb download, I think.

1TB for the core game?  That seems like a lot since when I downloaded it was only like 90GB (still bigger than most things).  Last year's call of duty still the largest for me where I think it was 150GB or so.

LoL...yeah, this is not a 1 TB download. It's less than 100 GB.

The game downloads the scenery while you fly (the reason ideal specs mention Bandwidth : 50 Mbps).  Doesn't this data remain on your PC or is this downloaded again when you fly the same area the next day ?

If there is no need to download it again you could collect more than 1TB on your HD after you took a trip around the world.

When I installed it said I needed approximately 147 GB of available HD space and the actual download was more like 93 GB. It doesn't make sense that you could need up to 1TB of HD space while in flight because of downloads while in game. If that is the case, a lot of people are going to have to drop out mid-flight to free up HD space.