In the last Grogcast, I said the Tiller games remain on my "Mount Rushmore" of Napoleonic gaming.
Well, the JTS Boney series got one bigger today:
https://john-tiller-software.myshopify.com/collections/napoleonic-battles/products/republican-bayonets-on-the-rhine
If you didn't love it before (this puzzles me, but I know there are some) you will not suddenly now.
For the rest of us, it's a filled hole in our hearts.
Quote from: Cyrano on March 23, 2018, 09:29:09 PM
In the last Grogcast, I said the Tiller games remain on my "Mount Rushmore" of Napoleonic gaming.
Well, the JTS Boney series got one bigger today:
https://john-tiller-software.myshopify.com/collections/napoleonic-battles/products/republican-bayonets-on-the-rhine
If you didn't love it before (this puzzles me, but I know there are some) you will not suddenly now.
For the rest of us, it's a filled hole in our hearts.
Yep. This sounds fantastic!
Was a playtester on this one. You're going to like it.
Misread..
Quote from: nelmsm on March 23, 2018, 10:44:38 PM
Was a playtester on this one. You're going to like it.
Wow! I just bought this and it looks truly fantastic! Which reminds me I've loved the whole series for the last 15-20 years!
Hey and in this set you get the first use of aerial recon (balloons) in battle (Fleurus, Summer of 1794)
Superb! I can't think of many games (board or pc) which have taken on this era.
Anyone know if it works with wine?
Quote from: dinsdale on April 21, 2018, 02:31:30 PM
Superb! I can't think of many games (board or pc) which have taken on this era.
Anyone know if it works with wine?
Yep, to the unusual (but extremely interesting) topic! Is WINE some kind of operating system?
Quote from: dinsdale on April 21, 2018, 02:31:30 PM
Superb! I can't think of many games (board or pc) which have taken on this era.
Anyone know if it works with wine?
I'll see if it works with bourbon if you want. (https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.aarcentral.com%2Fpics%2Fmischief.gif&hash=f87765b19ac126e9dde603fdb070e3d2897d53ea)
Quote from: dinsdale on April 21, 2018, 02:31:30 PM
Anyone know if it works with wine?
The JTS Civil War Battles and Panzer Battles series all work (near) perfectly fine in Wine. (Maybe just some sound issues now and then.) As do the JTS air (Vietnam etc.) and naval games (Midway etc.). Would the JTS Napoleonic series work in Wine? I can't imagine why not.
Quote from: MengJiao on April 21, 2018, 01:24:23 PM
Quote from: nelmsm on March 23, 2018, 10:44:38 PM
Was a playtester on this one. You're going to like it.
Wow! I just bought this and it looks truly fantastic! Which reminds me I've loved the whole series for the last 15-20 years!
Hey and in this set you get the first use of aerial recon (balloons) in battle (Fleurus, Summer of 1794)
Be interested in your impressions...I keep wanting to give Tiller games a shot again, but for some reason they don't stick with me. Does anything about this game have a chance to change my mind?
Quote from: MengJiao on April 21, 2018, 02:49:21 PM
Yep, to the unusual (but extremely interesting) topic! Is WINE some kind of operating system?
It's a way to run windows apps on a mac.
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berto, cheers I am going to pick it up. Its been years since I bought a Tiller game, but the subject matter is just so tempting.
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on April 21, 2018, 07:26:35 PM
Quote from: MengJiao on April 21, 2018, 01:24:23 PM
Quote from: nelmsm on March 23, 2018, 10:44:38 PM
Was a playtester on this one. You're going to like it.
Wow! I just bought this and it looks truly fantastic! Which reminds me I've loved the whole series for the last 15-20 years!
Hey and in this set you get the first use of aerial recon (balloons) in battle (Fleurus, Summer of 1794)
Unless you have a huge interest in the very early battles of the French Revolution (pre-Napoleonic since in 1792 he would have been still in Artillery school and up to 1794 mostly unemployed, 1795 shooting the Jeuness d'Orai, 1796 in Italy, 1797-8 in Egypt and so on) this would not be a good place to start back on John Tiller and the turns are 10 minutes, the Hexes 50 meters thus the battles fairly large and confusing.
Be interested in your impressions...I keep wanting to give Tiller games a shot again, but for some reason they don't stick with me. Does anything about this game have a chance to change my mind?
Quote from: MengJiao on April 21, 2018, 09:25:40 PM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on April 21, 2018, 07:26:35 PM
Quote from: MengJiao on April 21, 2018, 01:24:23 PM
Quote from: nelmsm on March 23, 2018, 10:44:38 PM
Was a playtester on this one. You're going to like it.
Wow! I just bought this and it looks truly fantastic! Which reminds me I've loved the whole series for the last 15-20 years!
Hey and in this set you get the first use of aerial recon (balloons) in battle (Fleurus, Summer of 1794)
Unless you have a huge interest in the very early battles of the French Revolution (pre-Napoleonic since in 1792 he would have been still in Artillery school and up to 1794 mostly unemployed, 1795 shooting the Jeuness d'Orai, 1796 in Italy, 1797-8 in Egypt and so on) this would not be a good place to start back on John Tiller and the turns are 10 minutes, the Hexes 50 meters thus the battles fairly large and confusing.
Be interested in your impressions...I keep wanting to give Tiller games a shot again, but for some reason they don't stick with me. Does anything about this game have a chance to change my mind?
Unless you have a huge interest in the very early battles of the French Revolution (pre-Napoleonic since in 1792 he would have been still in Artillery school and up to 1794 mostly unemployed, 1795 shooting the Jeuness d'Orai, 1796 in Italy, 1797-8 in Egypt and so on) this would not be a good place to start back on John Tiller and the turns are 10 minutes, the Hexes 50 meters thus the battles fairly large and confusing.
Thanks appreciate it...was browsing over the blitz forum and seemed some folks were recommending as a good "starter" so I wasn't sure. I guess for now I will be watching this thread for impressions:)
Quote from: dinsdale on April 21, 2018, 08:59:04 PM
Quote from: MengJiao on April 21, 2018, 02:49:21 PM
Yep, to the unusual (but extremely interesting) topic! Is WINE some kind of operating system?
It's a way to run windows apps on a mac.
Or on a Linux system.
Most of my JTS playtesting is on my Linux netbook, using Wine for the Windows emulation.
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on April 21, 2018, 09:29:35 PM
Thanks appreciate it...was browsing over the blitz forum and seemed some folks were recommending as a good "starter" so I wasn't sure. I guess for now I will be watching this thread for impressions:)
Some more impressions: maybe I should read the manual. 8 pdr (French pounds so 9 pdrs) have ranges of 13 hexes suggesting the hexes are 100 meters, but skirmishers are hitting people at 300 meters! That may be Prussians with rifles or something, if such a thing is possible in 1792.
As for a starter: good for Napoleonics as a starter (Text-book Prussian attack on a village with an infantry column backed up by skirmishers and artillery taught me a lot and killed my Major-General and routed seemingly high-quality French troops). Now the Prussians are in various linear formations driving back my 3rd-rate dragoons.
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on April 21, 2018, 07:26:35 PM
Quote from: MengJiao on April 21, 2018, 01:24:23 PM
Quote from: nelmsm on March 23, 2018, 10:44:38 PM
Was a playtester on this one. You're going to like it.
Wow! I just bought this and it looks truly fantastic! Which reminds me I've loved the whole series for the last 15-20 years!
Hey and in this set you get the first use of aerial recon (balloons) in battle (Fleurus, Summer of 1794)
Be interested in your impressions...I keep wanting to give Tiller games a shot again, but for some reason they don't stick with me. Does anything about this game have a chance to change my mind?
I'm not sure if it would change your mind about the John Tiller Ensemble -- but it is a pretty good 18th century battle engine -- the rout logic is the best I've ever seen. Even better than FOGII. The cavalry skirmishing works well and the artillery is impressive. Anyway, a big melee can clear a whole village in 10 minutes and leave the French skirmishers running for cover. Very nice! Then the Prussians advance until the French Skirmishers rally and the French artillery kicks in whereupon the Prussian skirmishers run away.
On the other hand the wild weirdness of this early period is pretty overwhelming and the game package has a huge number of scenarios and campaigns -- all a bit much for a starter set.
Thanks, appreciate the additional thoughts....maybe I will venture in at some point. Just curious, I see the Waterloo version demo, is it safe to assume fairly similar to that or has there been further advances in the gameplay since then?
Waterloo is set to current standard. Each game has variations in the underlying data files to accommodate each designer's take on the campaign.