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Title: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: Grim.Reaper on November 21, 2018, 10:11:42 AM
although not formally announced yet, if you go into their shop, sale prices are appearing for purchase.

start spending some money:)
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: -budd- on November 21, 2018, 10:17:44 AM
I'll look but damn I have most of the stuff I'm interested in already. I have been looking at Frank Hunters games the past couple of years so maybe this year I'll jump.
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: berto on November 21, 2018, 10:28:33 AM
I plan to purchase Commander: The Great War at least.
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: Grim.Reaper on November 21, 2018, 10:36:32 AM
Yep, I don't really have a lot of wants so not sure I'll pick up much, if anything....only things thinking about is getting CMANO DLC to complete my collection and MAYBE Eagle Day Bombing.....
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: Pete Dero on November 21, 2018, 11:06:46 AM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on November 21, 2018, 10:11:42 AM
although not formally announced yet, if you go into their shop, sale prices are appearing for purchase.

start spending some money:)

http://www.matrixgames.com/news/2736/Matrix.Holiday.Sale.2018

Only 2 months left ...
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: Barthheart on November 21, 2018, 11:13:41 AM
Quote from: Pete Dero on November 21, 2018, 11:06:46 AM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on November 21, 2018, 10:11:42 AM
although not formally announced yet, if you go into their shop, sale prices are appearing for purchase.

start spending some money:)

http://www.matrixgames.com/news/2736/Matrix.Holiday.Sale.2018

Only 2 months left ...

LOL! Yeah no rush ... and yet the website is already bogged down.... :idiot2:
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: Jarhead0331 on November 21, 2018, 11:24:05 AM
Yeah. I can't even access the catalog without timing out.
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: berto on November 21, 2018, 11:58:33 AM
Quote from: Barthheart on November 21, 2018, 11:13:41 AM

LOL! Yeah no rush ... and yet the website is already bogged down.... :idiot2:

There's a rush if you've got time off from work and want to begin playing with your new toy(s) ASAP.
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: JasonPratt on November 21, 2018, 12:37:21 PM
Being kind of a horrible person, I am of course going to wait until I can stack it with my yearly loyalty discount.  :smitten:
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: Gusington on November 21, 2018, 12:51:53 PM
I enjoyed getting my arse handed to me by the AI and PBEM in Commander: The Great War. Would love to see expansions for it but doesn't look like there will be any.
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: Dammit Carl! on November 21, 2018, 01:11:11 PM
Quote from: JasonPratt on November 21, 2018, 12:37:21 PM
Being kind of a horrible person, I am of course going to wait until I can stack it with my yearly loyalty discount.  :smitten:

Oooo...thanks for reminding me about this option!
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: CJReich46 on November 21, 2018, 02:23:50 PM
I do get my discount...in February.

But dammit! I don't need more games I need a new PC! HEEEEEELP! :DD
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: -budd- on November 21, 2018, 02:38:44 PM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on November 21, 2018, 10:36:32 AM
Yep, I don't really have a lot of wants so not sure I'll pick up much, if anything....only things thinking about is getting CMANO DLC to complete my collection and MAYBE Eagle Day Bombing.....
Make sure you get the awesome map mod for Eagle Day if you pick it up.
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: RommelFox on November 21, 2018, 02:40:26 PM
I of course forgot about the sale that was incoming, and used my loyalty discount a week ago :D
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: berto on November 21, 2018, 03:16:08 PM
Quote from: -budd- on November 21, 2018, 02:38:44 PM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on November 21, 2018, 10:36:32 AM
Yep, I don't really have a lot of wants so not sure I'll pick up much, if anything....only things thinking about is getting CMANO DLC to complete my collection and MAYBE Eagle Day Bombing.....
Make sure you get the awesome map mod for Eagle Day if you pick it up.

The map mod was officially integrated into the product, i.e., is no longer a mod but is the new standard, no?
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: -budd- on November 21, 2018, 03:38:24 PM
Quote from: berto on November 21, 2018, 03:16:08 PM
Quote from: -budd- on November 21, 2018, 02:38:44 PM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on November 21, 2018, 10:36:32 AM
Yep, I don't really have a lot of wants so not sure I'll pick up much, if anything....only things thinking about is getting CMANO DLC to complete my collection and MAYBE Eagle Day Bombing.....
Make sure you get the awesome map mod for Eagle Day if you pick it up.

The map mod was officially integrated into the product, i.e., is no longer a mod but is the new standard, no?
Not the whole mod, some things were left out, all I remember right now that was left out is the color coded planes. There's a post over there about what was put in from the mod.
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: Rayfer on November 21, 2018, 03:46:36 PM
If you can't get on the Matrix site (I can't), most of what's on sale is on sale on Steam as well and easily viewed.
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: bobarossa on November 21, 2018, 03:48:41 PM
In previous years, the sale info was in a PDF you could download.  During the one time I could view the links, there didn't seem to be any pdf this time.  Major headache for their servers.
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: Grim.Reaper on November 21, 2018, 04:26:34 PM
Quote from: bobarossa on November 21, 2018, 03:48:41 PM
In previous years, the sale info was in a PDF you could download.  During the one time I could view the links, there didn't seem to be any pdf this time.  Major headache for their servers.

Havent successfully got into the links at all...however, you can go directly to the store, but I really did like the previous year's PDF to see everything in one spot.  At least all their issues are keeping me from spending money, which I probably would have on something:)
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: Grim.Reaper on November 21, 2018, 10:47:03 PM
Quote from: -budd- on November 21, 2018, 03:38:24 PM
Quote from: berto on November 21, 2018, 03:16:08 PM
Quote from: -budd- on November 21, 2018, 02:38:44 PM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on November 21, 2018, 10:36:32 AM
Yep, I don't really have a lot of wants so not sure I'll pick up much, if anything....only things thinking about is getting CMANO DLC to complete my collection and MAYBE Eagle Day Bombing.....
Make sure you get the awesome map mod for Eagle Day if you pick it up.

The map mod was officially integrated into the product, i.e., is no longer a mod but is the new standard, no?
Not the whole mod, some things were left out, all I remember right now that was left out is the color coded planes. There's a post over there about what was put in from the mod.

so how tedious is this game to play?  concerned it might overwhelm me.
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: JasonPratt on November 21, 2018, 11:03:00 PM
This review series of a campaign in the game, is only 4 months old.

Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: -budd- on November 21, 2018, 11:05:51 PM
Finally got into the holiday link.

Looking at Commander: Napoleon at War for PBEM. Can anybody with recent experience tell me if the game runs on Win10, has widescreen resolution 1920x1080, and any game breaking bugs. I'm enjoying Commander the Great War PBEM so hoping this is a similar experience.

Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: -budd- on November 21, 2018, 11:08:24 PM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on November 21, 2018, 10:47:03 PM
Quote from: -budd- on November 21, 2018, 03:38:24 PM
Quote from: berto on November 21, 2018, 03:16:08 PM
Quote from: -budd- on November 21, 2018, 02:38:44 PM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on November 21, 2018, 10:36:32 AM
Yep, I don't really have a lot of wants so not sure I'll pick up much, if anything....only things thinking about is getting CMANO DLC to complete my collection and MAYBE Eagle Day Bombing.....
Make sure you get the awesome map mod for Eagle Day if you pick it up.

The map mod was officially integrated into the product, i.e., is no longer a mod but is the new standard, no?
Not the whole mod, some things were left out, all I remember right now that was left out is the color coded planes. There's a post over there about what was put in from the mod.

so how tedious is this game to play?  concerned it might overwhelm me.

Same concerns i have, why i haven't bought it yet over the years, i look in the forums every year around this time.
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: Pete Dero on November 23, 2018, 04:02:08 AM
Quote from: bobarossa on November 21, 2018, 03:48:41 PM
In previous years, the sale info was in a PDF you could download.  During the one time I could view the links, there didn't seem to be any pdf this time.  Major headache for their servers.

The PDF is available now : http://www.matrixgames.com/amazon/PDF/HolydaySales_2018/Matrix%20Christmas%20Sale%202018.pdf
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: Grim.Reaper on November 23, 2018, 04:57:13 AM
Quote from: Pete Dero on November 23, 2018, 04:02:08 AM
Quote from: bobarossa on November 21, 2018, 03:48:41 PM
In previous years, the sale info was in a PDF you could download.  During the one time I could view the links, there didn't seem to be any pdf this time.  Major headache for their servers.

The PDF is available now : http://www.matrixgames.com/amazon/PDF/HolydaySales_2018/Matrix%20Christmas%20Sale%202018.pdf

Thanks, just pretty much confirmed not a lot I am looking to purchase...just maybe what I originally thought Eagle Day and some CMANO stuff....but that is not a lock either.
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: bbmike on November 23, 2018, 08:52:46 AM
Picked up English Civil War for $10.
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: airboy on November 23, 2018, 09:15:49 AM
I got Field of Glory 2 for 50% off.
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: JasonPratt on November 23, 2018, 11:30:12 AM
Quote from: JasonPratt on November 21, 2018, 11:03:00 PM
This review series of a campaign in the game, is only 4 months old.



I kind of recommend skipping ahead to his Part 2 once you've watched the "turn" flow for a while. He doesn't talk about game mechanics much in this video.
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: Gusington on November 23, 2018, 03:11:21 PM
Anyone playing War Plan Orange still? For 10.00 I am very tempted.
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: JasonPratt on November 23, 2018, 05:21:46 PM
Haven't played it in a long time, but it's a lot of interesting gameplay for $10.
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: Staggerwing on November 23, 2018, 06:42:25 PM
I have not played it in many years and recently thought about getting back into it. Just like WitP:AE however, I doubt I previously made it past a few turns.

I've no idea where my disk even is and I'm tempted to just buy it again on the basis that paying $10 again is a better value than wasting an hour or two of my precious free time going through storage boxes.
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: Gusington on November 23, 2018, 07:00:50 PM
You can buy a new boxed copy for 20.00.
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: Staggerwing on November 23, 2018, 08:54:41 PM
Maybe.  :-\

Tomorrow, If I don't find it after looking in the first three boxes I might rebuy.
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: Gusington on November 23, 2018, 09:19:25 PM
I am deciding now on War Plan Orange or a crapload of dlc for Order of Battle.
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: JasonPratt on November 23, 2018, 09:34:46 PM
WPO is certainly a much different experience than most of the OoB DLC. Also, it features more distinct types of warfare!

What you really need is someone to play PBEM with you...  ^-^
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: Gusington on November 23, 2018, 09:53:08 PM
Are you hitting on me?
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: Staggerwing on November 23, 2018, 10:16:05 PM
If so, you can deflect with a graceful decline.
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: JasonPratt on November 23, 2018, 10:26:38 PM
I thought about adding "Not a euphamism!" But this seemed funnier.  >:D
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: Gusington on November 23, 2018, 10:46:13 PM
Like funny haha or funny like  :o
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: JasonPratt on November 23, 2018, 10:51:24 PM
Funny like, "I could have bought Tiger Leader with its update for $35, and I freaking waited too long!"  :2funny:
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: Gusington on November 23, 2018, 10:54:25 PM
That doesn't sound funny at all :/
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: Sir Slash on November 23, 2018, 11:17:55 PM
It made me laugh.
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: Gusington on November 24, 2018, 10:12:21 AM
But you're twisted. We all know that.
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: Sir Slash on November 24, 2018, 11:51:59 PM
Guilty as charged.
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: Father Ted on November 25, 2018, 04:55:42 PM
I think I may pick up the DLC for SoW:W.  They're going for the price of a pint of beer each.   It's a game I really want to like, and the holidays could be the time to try to wrap my head around the system once more.
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: Jarhead0331 on November 25, 2018, 04:59:46 PM
Quote from: Father Ted on November 25, 2018, 04:55:42 PM
I think I may pick up the DLC for SoW:W.  They're going for the price of a pint of beer each.   It's a game I really want to like, and the holidays could be the time to try to wrap my head around the system once more.

The whole series is on  sale on steam for $10!
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: Grim.Reaper on November 25, 2018, 05:32:41 PM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on November 25, 2018, 04:59:46 PM
Quote from: Father Ted on November 25, 2018, 04:55:42 PM
I think I may pick up the DLC for SoW:W.  They're going for the price of a pint of beer each.   It's a game I really want to like, and the holidays could be the time to try to wrap my head around the system once more.

The whole series is on  sale on steam for $10!

Do you have a link to the $10?  I see the bundle around $24 but maybe looking in wrong place.
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: Gusington on November 25, 2018, 05:35:14 PM
I picked up three DLCs for Order of Battle, each for that same price of a pint.
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: RommelFox on November 26, 2018, 12:52:05 PM
Quote from: Gusington on November 25, 2018, 05:35:14 PM
I picked up three DLCs for Order of Battle, each for that same price of a pint.

Which DLC did you pick up? 

I'm working my way through Germany at War, but I do want to hop on oob at some point.
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: Gusington on November 26, 2018, 01:11:32 PM
I got the Morning Sun campaign (1930s Sino Japanese War), I got the Panzerkrieg campaign (Eastern Front, ~1943), and then I went back to pick up Winter War (Soviet Invasion of Finland, 1939).

Originally I felt Order of Battle (original game) was a bit too scripted but the rare conflicts portrayed in the above made me come back and overlook scripting, if it is still an issue.
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: JasonPratt on November 26, 2018, 01:42:35 PM
Quote from: RommelFox on November 26, 2018, 12:52:05 PM
I'm working my way through Germany at War, but I do want to hop on oob at some point.

Is that the PG-ish Barbarossa game? I've had it and its predecessor forever but haven't tried it/them yet...
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: Gusington on November 26, 2018, 01:45:12 PM
Order of Battle? Yes.
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: JasonPratt on November 26, 2018, 04:39:23 PM
No I meant "Germany At War". It's supposed to be a very detailed Barbarossa game.
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: Tuna on November 26, 2018, 05:12:28 PM
How is Germany at War?
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: Jarhead0331 on November 26, 2018, 05:24:00 PM
^Somehow that one slipped my notice, even though Jim Cobb reviewed it for us in 2013. PG with more complexity sounds great to me. Purchased.

http://grogheads.com/review/2458 (http://grogheads.com/review/2458)
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: Gusington on November 26, 2018, 05:48:19 PM
^Game slut.
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: JasonPratt on November 26, 2018, 06:26:25 PM
Quote from: Tuna on November 26, 2018, 05:12:28 PM
How is Germany at War?

That's what I wanna know!  :D

...I mean, not that it matters I guess, I've already got it (and its predecessor).

Not many PG successors deign to use NATO symbols. And the map zooms in for a 3Dish view. Scale is uniformly maintained across the huge campaign, or the four huge campaigns rather. In that sense it's rather like the full Unity of Command game, but at much smaller scales (1 Turn always equals 1 day; 1 hex always equals 1 km), and at a much more granular level of upgrade (similar to many other modern PG heirs).

In some ways it looks like a much more accessible War in the East (or the main campaign does).
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: Gusington on November 26, 2018, 06:32:09 PM
I hate you.
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: RommelFox on November 26, 2018, 06:44:30 PM
Quote from: JasonPratt on November 26, 2018, 01:42:35 PM
Quote from: RommelFox on November 26, 2018, 12:52:05 PM
I'm working my way through Germany at War, but I do want to hop on oob at some point.

Is that the PG-ish Barbarossa game? I've had it and its predecessor forever but haven't tried it/them yet...

Quote from: Tuna on November 26, 2018, 05:12:28 PM
How is Germany at War?

     I find it strikes a great balance in complexity.  It's one of those easy to learn hard to master games.  It adds just enough complexity to the Panzer General/Corps formula for me to like it.  Also the interface is well explained in the manual and pretty much every number/symbol you see in the game will pull a tooltip up when you mouse over it, so there's no scratching your head and constantly digging through the manual trying to remember what a squiggle represents.

The supply system adds more depth than say Panzer general/corps.  You have to account not only for manpower, but ammo and fuel also must be supplied taking away from your resource points.  Yes your tanks can shoot across that map, but do you have the resources to replenish their fuel after that advance?  I bamboozled a scenario by forgetting to rearm my aircraft and ended up with multiple turns of not being able to make use of aircraft until I got them rearmed.

The graphics are decent enough, and there's the usual marching sounds and gunfire effects.  You can also switch between NATO counters and sprites/polygons whatever they are. 

As a note, I've mostly played some of the easier intro scenarios, so I'll reserve judgment on the AI's ability until I get into a more serious one.  It does seem capable though, as during one scenario it was clear I as going to overrun the AI's positions so it attempted to quickly withdraw its forces and establish a new line.

I also believe the dev still updates the game and has some patch in the pipeline currently.
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: Gusington on November 26, 2018, 06:47:42 PM
I...may have to get this. Now I'm a gaming slut too.
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: JasonPratt on November 26, 2018, 07:25:02 PM
Dr. Evil Fingerquote: "Now"
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: nelmsm on November 26, 2018, 08:40:32 PM
Thinking about picking up Decisive Campaigns: Barbarossa. Anyone have anything bad to say about it?
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: JasonPratt on November 26, 2018, 09:49:39 PM
It doesn't keep track of destroyed divisions very well, in my experience.

... ............ ...that's praising with faint damns!  :bd:
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: RommelFox on November 27, 2018, 01:26:53 AM
Quote from: nelmsm on November 26, 2018, 08:40:32 PM
Thinking about picking up Decisive Campaigns: Barbarossa. Anyone have anything bad to say about it?

Fair warning, I'm a bad influence :D

You should absolutely buy it! 

The game is more than moving men and machinery around, you have to also manage your relations with officers below and above you.

Piss off the guy in charge of trains?  Your siege artillery gets delayed in relocating.  The guy in charge of trucks love you?  You're units stay better supplied.  Piss of Hitler?  Now your decisions cost more points.  Those are just a few of the multiple relationships you have to be aware of. 

Another point worth mentioning is the excellent manual and in game tutorials.  The documentation in the manual and within the game put other games to shame.  The in game help features narration and video examples on what to do, and the manual goes into great depth.

Buy it!
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: JasonPratt on November 27, 2018, 08:46:33 AM
Should note that those role-playing upper-middle-management elements are largely lacking on the Soviet side, which has its own political fun to compensate. (Where 'fun' = 'Oh God why are my divisions not moving whhhyyyyyy!') (This is for perfectly legitimate game reasons, btw, and I'm not being sarcastic.)
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: JasonPratt on November 27, 2018, 09:01:33 AM
I should probably also add that the game developer uses some key parts of Suvorov's Icebreaker thesis to explain what's going on with the Soviets and why.

I was interested enough to go looking for more data, and put together this compilation video of two lectures Suvorov made (one for the US Naval Academy) while promoting the English release of "Chief Culprit" in 2009.



(The main compilation lasts about an hour, after the 4:40 minute prologue which actually came as part of the Q&A session for one of the lectures, so you can skip ahead to that without problems. The Q/A session takes up the rest of the video, including some biographical things.)
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: jamus34 on November 27, 2018, 11:15:32 AM
I haven't given it nearly the amount of love it deserves (of course I can say that about many many games ) but it is most definitely worth it. I would also spring for the boxed copy with the Uber sexy hardcover book.
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: JasonPratt on November 27, 2018, 12:49:11 PM
Quote from: jamus34 on November 27, 2018, 11:15:32 AM
I haven't given it nearly the amount of love it deserves (of course I can say that about many many games ) but it is most definitely worth it. I would also spring for the boxed copy with the Uber sexy hardcover book.

I got that, but really I wish I hadn't bothered -- the hardcover book looks pretty but doesn't add functionality. It just stands next to my gaming chair, glaring at me!
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: Sir Slash on November 27, 2018, 03:01:32 PM
I caved and bought TOAW 4 before the sale ended.  :hide:
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: JasonPratt on November 27, 2018, 03:31:31 PM
...it ends Jan 13th.




PLENTY OF TIME TO BUY MOAR LOOT!  :D
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: jamus34 on November 27, 2018, 04:30:59 PM
I need to wait for some of my finances to clear but I've got TOAW 4 and WitE on my short list this year.
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: jamus34 on November 27, 2018, 04:31:51 PM
Quote from: JasonPratt on November 27, 2018, 12:49:11 PM
Quote from: jamus34 on November 27, 2018, 11:15:32 AM
I haven't given it nearly the amount of love it deserves (of course I can say that about many many games ) but it is most definitely worth it. I would also spring for the boxed copy with the Uber sexy hardcover book.

I got that, but really I wish I hadn't bothered -- the hardcover book looks pretty but doesn't add functionality. It just stands next to my gaming chair, glaring at me!

But but but it's so shiny and pretty...must...have...precious.
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: Rayfer on November 27, 2018, 04:32:32 PM
A disappointing surprise.  The Matrix stuff on Steam is no longer on sale even though the Matrix sale is ongoing through December on their site.  I have CMANO on Steam.  If I get the expansion Shifting Sands on the Matrix site can I also get a Steam product code along with it?  Thanks.
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: JasonPratt on November 27, 2018, 04:43:46 PM
Rayfer, that totally depends on whether "Shifting Sands" is also available at Steam. If it is, then yes you can get a Steam code for it after buying at Matrix. If not, you can't yet but when-if-ever they make it available on Steam you can register for a Steam code at that time.

(I've done this before two or three times when buying a Matrix/Slitherine game not yet available on Steam, and then activating it on Steam later.)

In this case, I just checked and Shifting Sands is indeed available at Steam, so you should be able to apply for a Steam code after purchasing at Matrix.  O0
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: Rayfer on November 27, 2018, 05:01:28 PM
Quote from: JasonPratt on November 27, 2018, 04:43:46 PM
Rayfer, that totally depends on whether "Shifting Sands" is also available at Steam. If it is, then yes you can get a Steam code for it after buying at Matrix. If not, you can't yet but when-if-ever they make it available on Steam you can register for a Steam code at that time.

(I've done this before two or three times when buying a Matrix/Slitherine game not yet available on Steam, and then activating it on Steam later.)

In this case, I just checked and Shifting Sands is indeed available at Steam, so you should be able to apply for a Steam code after purchasing at Matrix.  O0

Thanks JP....it is on Steam, just not on sale there.  I'll get through Matrix directly.   \m/
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: Surtur on November 28, 2018, 05:10:39 AM
Hi guys,

Steam puts restrictions on what we can put on sale and how low. Our own website does not :)

Where we can, we match sales/prices.
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: Sir Slash on November 28, 2018, 10:53:35 AM
Yes, good thing too. I used my Matrix Anniversary coupon to get an additional 15% off TOAW 4 straight from them. Win-Win.  O0
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: JasonPratt on November 28, 2018, 11:48:44 AM
Quote from: Sir Slash on November 28, 2018, 10:53:35 AM
Yes, good thing too. I used my Matrix Anniversary coupon to get an additional 15% off TOAW 4 straight from them. Win-Win.  O0

Soooon. My Anniversary coupon should be arriving sooooooooon....  :-\ :-*
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: jamus34 on November 28, 2018, 01:16:31 PM
Man sometimes i hate the fact I first joined Matrix in late July.
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: Wolfe1759 on November 28, 2018, 06:18:44 PM
My anniversary coupon (from 2008) arrives each year on January 15th - 2 days after the end of the sale  :pullhair:
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: Gusington on November 28, 2018, 06:42:59 PM
Ouchie.
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: JasonPratt on November 28, 2018, 07:26:51 PM
...what's worse, it seems to imply that you first bought from Matrix just after their sale!

Like, crap, you missed their sale but you REAAALLLY want that particular game NOW, so...!
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: Barthheart on November 28, 2018, 09:15:32 PM
Not sure Matrix was running sales in 2008.... :P
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: JasonPratt on November 29, 2018, 02:47:37 PM
I think they only ran one sale a year back then, the Christmas sale. (And then added an Easter Sale later as their second one.)

We would be consequently juggling all year how much we wanted a game vs waiting for it to be (only) 30% off during the Christmas sale. Almost as bad as Playstation 3 games at the PS store!  :buck2:
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: The Puss on November 29, 2018, 02:59:16 PM
Bought Legions Triumphant and Age of Belisarius for FOG2 and Alea Jacta Est. In an ancients mode at the moment.   
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: kludger on December 03, 2018, 11:01:56 PM
I'm usually too slow to play RTS games but the sale had me finally check out the Scourge of War series since that's a historical period I don't know much about but always wanted to learn, and after playing the demo and seeing that it's manageable for a turn based slow poke like me, I picked up both the Gettysburg and Waterloo collections for $30 each, so more good stuff to dive into this winter.
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: Toonces on December 04, 2018, 01:08:01 AM
Bruddah, you can't go wrong with the Civil War games.  The most fun I've had wargaming in my life is playing Scourge of War using couriers only.  It takes some work to get it all set up right, but when you hit the right scenario, with the right settings, oh man you are in for an experience.

I'm saying, playing a Corps vs. Corps or even Army vs. Army, and issuing a total of 40 orders, all through courier.  If you think of it as 40 "turns" it makes a lot of sense. 

Good stuff...you made excellent choices.
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: kludger on December 04, 2018, 07:46:07 AM
Quote from: Toonces on December 04, 2018, 01:08:01 AM
Bruddah, you can't go wrong with the Civil War games.  The most fun I've had wargaming in my life is playing Scourge of War using couriers only.  It takes some work to get it all set up right, but when you hit the right scenario, with the right settings, oh man you are in for an experience.

I'm saying, playing a Corps vs. Corps or even Army vs. Army, and issuing a total of 40 orders, all through courier.  If you think of it as 40 "turns" it makes a lot of sense. 

Good stuff...you made excellent choices.


Ah that's great info Toonces, I hadn't thought of that courier feature used as a sort of turn, but I can see how that would be a really cool thing to try, thanks for the good info.
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: -budd- on December 09, 2018, 03:31:21 PM
For those of you who have or have been interested in LnL Heroes of Stalingrad there is a great looking mod for it i just came across. There's currently 15 scenarios in the mod, Stalingrad and Carentan scenarios, the guy has plans for more. Game is currently $15 on sale. Installation is pretty straight forward, install a second copy of LnL HOS besides the stock version. Install the main mod by overwriting some files, and then do the same with the scenario files.

link to mod  http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4252327
link to scenarios http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4374224


Carentan
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4898/45525055964_b6b2ced075_b.jpg)
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4872/46248878731_dfc1ddff93_b.jpg)

Barrikady South
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4861/46248878581_778a14b954_b.jpg)
(https://farm5.staticflickr.com/4881/31309736137_f95f29fe45_b.jpg)
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: Gusington on December 09, 2018, 06:23:49 PM
Whoa.
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: Wolfe1759 on December 09, 2018, 07:02:39 PM
I do like the idea of the mod and all the additional scenarios but it looks an utter mess without the counters.
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: -budd- on December 09, 2018, 07:25:17 PM
no setting that i can see to use the counters only, but when you hover over the units the counters pop up, but more than one unit in a hex and the other counters aren't really visible. There is still the right lower box to get the units stats when selected. For me the figures match the map terrain better, but thats just personal choice.
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: JasonPratt on December 19, 2018, 09:52:46 AM
My 14 year loyalty discount just arrived in the email.

After watching for it since Thanksgiving, I nearly deleted it by habit...  :pullhair: :hide:
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: Sir Slash on December 19, 2018, 12:09:25 PM
How much for 14 years?
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: Vintage Dude on December 19, 2018, 01:28:14 PM
I just received my 13 year discount and it is 44% off.
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: JasonPratt on December 19, 2018, 02:18:33 PM
47% off.  <:-)

I'm about to spend $67.79, on a cart that would have normally cost me $242.89, so altogether I'm cracking 72% off on average.  :bd: That's combined with the winter sale of course.

Picking up (in some cases at last):

the two War in the East DLCs;

the Broken Alliance and Anabasis DLCs for Battlestar Galactica Deadlock;

Field of Glory II (none of the DLC yet);

Battle of Britain II: Wings of Victory (I'm on a BoB kick recently);

Heroes of Stalingrad

Tigers on the Hunt

Shifting Sands (my first "CMANO" game, hope to see more of these historical modules in the future)

and WH40K: Gladius
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: JasonPratt on December 19, 2018, 02:28:23 PM
Wow, it's a good thing I wrote all that down first: I just went to check out, and all my items were gone from my cart!!
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: Gusington on December 19, 2018, 02:49:07 PM
DLC for Field of Glory 2 is imminent...you cannot resist.
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: JasonPratt on December 19, 2018, 03:03:53 PM
Oh I feel pretty safe resisting until the campaign system comes out (Empires or whatever it is).

Then it's alllll the DLC available up through next year's week before Christmas. At only-God-knows how much off.

Thus the deepness of my strategy becomes apparent.
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: Gusington on December 19, 2018, 06:10:20 PM
You'll see.

BWAHAHA
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: -budd- on December 19, 2018, 07:43:03 PM
Be sure to check out the mods/scenarios for Heroes of Stalingrad, there well done.

http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4252327
http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4374224  -scenarios
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: acctingman on December 20, 2018, 09:50:09 AM
That Heroes of Stalingrad looks interesting. I might pick that one up. Lots of neat mods for it too.

Thanks budd
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: Gusington on December 20, 2018, 10:10:20 AM
^Me too. Damn you, Budd.
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: JasonPratt on December 20, 2018, 10:14:44 AM
Welp, now it's time for me to forget that I've got all this new niftiness and WAIT HAS THE STEAM SALE STARTED YET?!  :D
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: Pete Dero on December 20, 2018, 10:26:43 AM
Quote from: JasonPratt on December 20, 2018, 10:14:44 AM
WAIT HAS THE STEAM SALE STARTED YET?!  :D

No.  Steam will go offline in 2.5 hours (as the sale starts).
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: RommelFox on December 20, 2018, 12:39:33 PM
Quote from: acctingman on December 20, 2018, 09:50:09 AM
That Heroes of Stalingrad looks interesting. I might pick that one up. Lots of neat mods for it too.

Thanks budd

This wasn't even on my radar. 

:dreamer: Pulls out credit card.  :dreamer:


Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: JasonPratt on December 20, 2018, 02:55:08 PM
It was on my radar for a long time. I'm glad I remembered to pull the trigger this time.

Thank God for modders!
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: WallysWorld on December 20, 2018, 04:13:07 PM
Still deciding whether to buy War Plan Orange or not. WitPAE scares me and the inter-war period has always interested me. The only thing that is really turning me off is that the game doesn't run in widescreen as it's so old.
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: -budd- on December 20, 2018, 04:32:29 PM
Quote from: WallysWorld on December 20, 2018, 04:13:07 PM
Still deciding whether to buy War Plan Orange or not. WitPAE scares me and the inter-war period has always interested me. The only thing that is really turning me off is that the game doesn't run in widescreen as it's so old.

Did you look here, http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4491506  I bought the Hussar games and they go widescreen, stretched, but they don't look bad.
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: RommelFox on December 20, 2018, 04:59:05 PM
Quote from: JasonPratt on December 20, 2018, 02:55:08 PM
It was on my radar for a long time. I'm glad I remembered to pull the trigger this time.

Thank God for modders!

Yeah the mods look great.  The information in the Heroes and Leaders mod thread has an impressive amount of historical information behind the units in the game.
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: Grim.Reaper on December 20, 2018, 05:54:13 PM
Yep, the screen resolutions on the older games is what keeps holding me back too....I would like War Plan Orange (and the other smaller naval game), but just concerned visually might be a problem.
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: WallysWorld on December 20, 2018, 06:00:52 PM
Quote from: -budd- on December 20, 2018, 04:32:29 PM
Quote from: WallysWorld on December 20, 2018, 04:13:07 PM
Still deciding whether to buy War Plan Orange or not. WitPAE scares me and the inter-war period has always interested me. The only thing that is really turning me off is that the game doesn't run in widescreen as it's so old.
Did you look here, http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4491506  I bought the Hussar games and they go widescreen, stretched, but they don't look bad.

Yes, I read that a while ago. Thanks for posting that again. Unfortunately it doesn't help with widescreen resolutions. I guess stretching the 4:3 game screen is the only way to fill up my 25" monitor, but it will probably not look that good. It's a trade off of having such an old game.
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: JasonPratt on December 20, 2018, 07:41:48 PM
1280 x 1024 isn't bad. It's still higher definition than 720p (the original standard hi-def), and a little squarer than 4:3!

Or you can gear down again to 1280 x 960 for true 4:3 ratios, still significantly higher definition than 720p.

(I don't have WPO installed right now, so I don't know if it can natively take those resolutions -- though my provisional guess would be it can -- but it should scale up.)
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: JasonPratt on December 20, 2018, 08:06:56 PM
I'm installing my copy right now, and will test with some sample screenshots if possible tonight (or anyway soon).
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: CJReich46 on December 20, 2018, 08:36:52 PM
I must admit War Plan Orange did intrigue me. I wish they did the others Red/Crimson (UK and Canada) Gold (France) Black (Germany).

I might have to take a look.

I can run 1900x600 (Yeah my monitor is that old) that's not a big deal is it?
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: JasonPratt on December 20, 2018, 09:14:56 PM
Okay, first, for no clear reason my copy is running a masssssive amount of input lag in the main game. Not in the menus, but in the main game. Any input at all takes five or six seconds to register. That includes trying to mapscroll.

No idea why it's happening but it's happening to me and I wanted people to be aware.

Second, the game runs at 1024x768 and there are no resolution options. It did resize my desktop resolution down, or anyway my computer made my monitor run at 768 when in-game, but I could tab-out at the normal 1080. (It is impossible to use the taskbar to quit the game, so any quitting has to be done within the game or else by a warm-boot. This can be important if you accidentally set the game to run both sides by AI, or to play the first turn automatically...! ahem.  L:-) )


I'll try to attach some snapshots below, of India, Southeast Asia more generally, and the Home Islands at night (the latter during a part of turn resolution).
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: WallysWorld on December 20, 2018, 09:48:28 PM
Thanks for the screenshots, Jason. I thought the game would have 1280x1024 resolution.

I'll probably sit on the bench for WPO until I get my anniversary coupon which should come in early January.

As for your game's slowness issue, someone else had the same issue and the thread that -budd- posted above seems to have resolve that person's slow issue:  http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4491506 (http://www.matrixgames.com/forums/tm.asp?m=4491506)
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: Gusington on December 20, 2018, 09:49:20 PM
Bought WPO for 5.00 during the Matrix fall sale.
Title: Re: matrix 2018 holiday sale
Post by: JasonPratt on December 20, 2018, 10:12:31 PM
Ah yes! -- been so long since I ran it, I forgot about the infamous "deep color" problem! I'll make sure I run it in XPSP2 compatability, too. (Haven't tested the fix yet, but it rings a big bell.  O0 )