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#1
Computer Gaming / Re: Sins Of a Solar Empire 2
Last post by Grim.Reaper - Today at 05:48:24 PM
Yep, everyone has to decide who they want to invest in and for what reason.  In this case, at least for me not enough reason for me to not ever do business with the company, in the end worked out cheaper for me so really don't have a major issue at this time, but I certainly agree if the company knew they were headed in this direction they should have informed their customer base at the time they knew so people could have made an informed purchasing decision.
#2
Computer Gaming / Re: Sins Of a Solar Empire 2
Last post by solops - Today at 04:49:45 PM
- sniffle -
#3
Computer Gaming / Re: Sins Of a Solar Empire 2
Last post by solops - Today at 04:46:26 PM
In almost all businesses company reputation and customer relations are paramount. I am unfamiliar with the incident other than what was related here, but this seems like an easily avoided, self inflicted wound. Just the mention of it is enough to put this potential customer off. Regardless of whatever real or potential expense may have been involved, the perception of mistreatment has very high damage potential to a company. I do not want to do business with a company that does not value me as a customer. I have over 30 unplayed games. I do not NEED to buy another. The seller had better convince me that that his product is good and that he values me as a buyer of his product, that he cares about my satisfaction and lives only to make me happy. Yeah, i know he's probably lying, but he has to sell it to me and make an effort to make it so. Companies live on repeat customers! Its not just the money, it is how i am treated. I am a sensitive guy!
#4
Computer Gaming / Re: Sins Of a Solar Empire 2
Last post by Grim.Reaper - Today at 04:30:26 PM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on Today at 04:24:56 PM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on Today at 02:51:02 PM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on Today at 02:44:29 PM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on Today at 02:37:55 PM
Quote from: solops on Today at 02:09:04 PM
Quote from: Destraex on Yesterday at 07:30:48 PMWhat happened with galciv?
See post #11
Hard to imagine anyone making such a poor business decision.

Guess didn't see a huge deal myself.  Originally purchased in 2021 for $29.99, with a coupon that had $10 off.  People that own the Epic version can upgrade to Supernova for $15.99.  That brings my total cost to $45.98.  Supernova version on steam for the base version is $49.99, which my total investment is less for the same thing.  Even if didn't have the coupon, I guess my cost would have been around $55.  So at worst case $5 more for playing the game much earlier than Steam release.

That's fair when you break it down like that. However, it would have been really nice if Stardock had thanked early adopters on Epic by giving them a key on Steam. After all, the Supernova version is not available at all on Epic, and as far as I understand, the Epic version is no longer receiving updates. Thus Epic owners are forced to buy on steam if they want to experience the most up to date supported version. Stardock easily could have turned this into a big win rather than rubbing a lot of players the wrong way.

But even if required to buy, still about same cost as people who buy directly on steam.  I understand might have been nice to get a steam key, but don't think they ever promised anything like that so I guess I just assume risk when I knowingly buy into games early.  Certainly respect others feel differently, but for me not really    a huge deal as any minor extra cost i chalk up to playing much earlier (around 2 years) than others.  In sins case, they have stated strong desire to provide the steam key, so let's see what they do this time.

They didn't promise that, but they also didn't put Epic buyers on notice that the Steam version was going to have a major game changing update that the Epic version was not going to receive nor that the Epic version was going to be, in essence, abandoned once released on Steam. This is what really pissed me off the most. Had I known, I would not have bought on Epic at all.

Fair being upset about them not supporting on epic.  I guess for me, I typically get the latest versions beyond base so I would have done any way, which I did for the $15 and total cost was still cheaper for me versus buying when released on steam.  But I get it.

Let's hope they do better this time.
#5
Computer Gaming / Re: Sins Of a Solar Empire 2
Last post by Jarhead0331 - Today at 04:24:56 PM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on Today at 02:51:02 PM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on Today at 02:44:29 PM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on Today at 02:37:55 PM
Quote from: solops on Today at 02:09:04 PM
Quote from: Destraex on Yesterday at 07:30:48 PMWhat happened with galciv?
See post #11
Hard to imagine anyone making such a poor business decision.

Guess didn't see a huge deal myself.  Originally purchased in 2021 for $29.99, with a coupon that had $10 off.  People that own the Epic version can upgrade to Supernova for $15.99.  That brings my total cost to $45.98.  Supernova version on steam for the base version is $49.99, which my total investment is less for the same thing.  Even if didn't have the coupon, I guess my cost would have been around $55.  So at worst case $5 more for playing the game much earlier than Steam release.

That's fair when you break it down like that. However, it would have been really nice if Stardock had thanked early adopters on Epic by giving them a key on Steam. After all, the Supernova version is not available at all on Epic, and as far as I understand, the Epic version is no longer receiving updates. Thus Epic owners are forced to buy on steam if they want to experience the most up to date supported version. Stardock easily could have turned this into a big win rather than rubbing a lot of players the wrong way.

But even if required to buy, still about same cost as people who buy directly on steam.  I understand might have been nice to get a steam key, but don't think they ever promised anything like that so I guess I just assume risk when I knowingly buy into games early.  Certainly respect others feel differently, but for me not really    a huge deal as any minor extra cost i chalk up to playing much earlier (around 2 years) than others.  In sins case, they have stated strong desire to provide the steam key, so let's see what they do this time.

They didn't promise that, but they also didn't put Epic buyers on notice that the Steam version was going to have a major game changing update that the Epic version was not going to receive nor that the Epic version was going to be, in essence, abandoned once released on Steam. This is what really pissed me off the most. Had I known, I would not have bought on Epic at all.
#6
Computer Gaming / Re: Sins Of a Solar Empire 2
Last post by Grim.Reaper - Today at 02:51:02 PM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on Today at 02:44:29 PM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on Today at 02:37:55 PM
Quote from: solops on Today at 02:09:04 PM
Quote from: Destraex on Yesterday at 07:30:48 PMWhat happened with galciv?
See post #11
Hard to imagine anyone making such a poor business decision.

Guess didn't see a huge deal myself.  Originally purchased in 2021 for $29.99, with a coupon that had $10 off.  People that own the Epic version can upgrade to Supernova for $15.99.  That brings my total cost to $45.98.  Supernova version on steam for the base version is $49.99, which my total investment is less for the same thing.  Even if didn't have the coupon, I guess my cost would have been around $55.  So at worst case $5 more for playing the game much earlier than Steam release.

That's fair when you break it down like that. However, it would have been really nice if Stardock had thanked early adopters on Epic by giving them a key on Steam. After all, the Supernova version is not available at all on Epic, and as far as I understand, the Epic version is no longer receiving updates. Thus Epic owners are forced to buy on steam if they want to experience the most up to date supported version. Stardock easily could have turned this into a big win rather than rubbing a lot of players the wrong way.

But even if required to buy, still about same cost as people who buy directly on steam.  I understand might have been nice to get a steam key, but don't think they ever promised anything like that so I guess I just assume risk when I knowingly buy into games early.  Certainly respect others feel differently, but for me not really    a huge deal as any minor extra cost i chalk up to playing much earlier (around 2 years) than others.  In sins case, they have stated strong desire to provide the steam key, so let's see what they do this time.
#7
Computer Gaming / Re: Sins Of a Solar Empire 2
Last post by Jarhead0331 - Today at 02:44:29 PM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on Today at 02:37:55 PM
Quote from: solops on Today at 02:09:04 PM
Quote from: Destraex on Yesterday at 07:30:48 PMWhat happened with galciv?
See post #11
Hard to imagine anyone making such a poor business decision.

Guess didn't see a huge deal myself.  Originally purchased in 2021 for $29.99, with a coupon that had $10 off.  People that own the Epic version can upgrade to Supernova for $15.99.  That brings my total cost to $45.98.  Supernova version on steam for the base version is $49.99, which my total investment is less for the same thing.  Even if didn't have the coupon, I guess my cost would have been around $55.  So at worst case $5 more for playing the game much earlier than Steam release.

That's fair when you break it down like that. However, it would have been really nice if Stardock had thanked early adopters on Epic by giving them a key on Steam. After all, the Supernova version is not available at all on Epic, and as far as I understand, the Epic version is no longer receiving updates. Thus Epic owners are forced to buy on steam if they want to experience the most up to date supported version. Stardock easily could have turned this into a big win rather than rubbing a lot of players the wrong way.
#8
Computer Gaming / Re: Sins Of a Solar Empire 2
Last post by Grim.Reaper - Today at 02:37:55 PM
Quote from: solops on Today at 02:09:04 PM
Quote from: Destraex on Yesterday at 07:30:48 PMWhat happened with galciv?
See post #11
Hard to imagine anyone making such a poor business decision.

Guess didn't see a huge deal myself.  Originally purchased in 2021 for $29.99, with a coupon that had $10 off.  People that own the Epic version can upgrade to Supernova for $15.99.  That brings my total cost to $45.98.  Supernova version on steam for the base version is $49.99, which my total investment is less for the same thing.  Even if didn't have the coupon, I guess my cost would have been around $55.  So at worst case $5 more for playing the game much earlier than Steam release.  At least for me, a non issue based on the cost and ability to play during early access. Understand others may not feel same way. but nothing that left a huge bad tastt in my mouth.
#9
Computer Gaming / Re: Sins Of a Solar Empire 2
Last post by solops - Today at 02:09:04 PM
Quote from: Destraex on Yesterday at 07:30:48 PMWhat happened with galciv?
See post #11
Hard to imagine anyone making such a poor business decision.
#10
Digital Gaming AARs / Re: AAR for Second Front
Last post by Uberhaus - Today at 01:47:16 PM
Not having much exposure to art, I'm still not comprehending.  I'm your worst pupil.

So, I'll move onto puns:  Don't take everything I say literally. 

That definitely needs even more help.