The "Uber" Command: Modern Air/Naval Ops Thread

[Bismarck]

You misread the instructions.  Re-read and follow. I had no problems.

[CptHowdy]

I feel like the slow kid in class.
I'm playing the tutorial and can't even get my F-14's to launch an AAW mission.

  ;) ;) ;)

Thanks. That's what I'm going to do next.

Yes, James, I was "adding new mission." Something is off. Hopefully Ballogan's vids will clarify.

OK, apparently my first mistake was trying to follow the tutorial's in-game instructions. I was trying to use the Mission Editor on the top menu bar, instead of using the Air Operations Dialog in Balooga's vid...

Hmmm.

told you twice what you did wrong, had nothing to do with air operations dialog. using the mission editor is correct, just don't hit the ready selected aircraft button. they are already ready.

[LongBlade]

Thanks again to Balooga. Helps a lot.

[mikeck]

Yep. Just click on the box next to the planes you want on the mission and hit the arrow to send them over to the assigned box. If you have any planes you want as escorts (ea6 or air to air on a strike mission) click on the "mark as escort" box. That's it. Once you close the window, they launch automatically. Only use "launch as group" or " launch as individual " if you want that /those planes to launch and they are not yet assigned to a mission

[jomni]

But they will just fly and do their stuff without coordinating when you assign a mission before launch.
Is there a way to form a group first in that list?

[emsoy]

I feel like the slow kid in class.

I'm playing the tutorial and can't even get my F-14's to launch an AAW mission.

In the mission editor I create the mission, ready the aircraft and wait. Phases 1-5 fire, but my F-14's just sit there. I feel like a complete moron. What am I missing?

Think Baloogan et al got this covered, but just posting the links to the tutorial videos real quick:

• Gameplay Demo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-4UjyloNe-c

• Basic Plotting and Mission Editor Tutorial: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fIzX_zVufuk

• Basic Attack Tutorial: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CpRRAqI-mc

• Event Editor Tutorial: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=92dkBwVDX4Y

• Import Files Tutorial: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ogKL-96eFtM

[jomni]

Weather systems. Are they modeled in the game?

[Dimitris]

Yes, but currently the parameters that you select will apply globally (except temperature, which varies).

Local-specific weather fronts are on the to-do list.

[GDS_Starfury]

Yes, but currently the parameters that you select will apply globally (except temperature, which varies).

Local-specific weather fronts are on the to-do list.

I wish all developers spent the time to answer questions as you guys do.  but keep in mind the whole forum and the agw nuts that populate it.  ;)  if you dont model the north Atlantic current and ice sheet variations theres one Canadistanian that might not buy this game.  :P
if theres no accurate model of fresh water ice melt in northern oceans and seas how can there be an accurate model of sonar CZ and refractory echo of prop noise?  ;)

[CptHowdy]

playing air tutorial. I keep getting further without the program locking up so I guess that's a good sign!! anyway my sead patrol has 6 planes, they go in but are unable to destroy the sam sites. they RTB(Winchester) like they are supposed to do but when they get back to base they have a 6 hour turnaround time. the scenario itself is only like 4 hours. I also ordered my 12 tomcats to RTB since there were no more air threats. I unassigned from mission. when they got back to base they went into readying status for like 10-20 minutes. why would they do this? there mission was complete. they should stand down and wait for further orders. my land strike aircraft also RTB(Winchester) and they now have 6 hour turnaround times and the mission will be over in 2. I find it odd that the tomcats returned to base and were able to be rearmed in about 15 minutes but my other aircraft have to wait 6 hours. I am using build 438.

[JudgeDredd]

I was going to suggest that we don't get to see other sides forces because they're a bit of a spoiler - but it's an option - and I'm for options. I can avoid looking if I don't want to see the other sides platforms.

Probably not a good idea since there's no good way to look up some enemy platforms that you've had confirmed in your Orders or have had a previous detection on and lost.  We probably don't want to dig through the full DB to find them.

If it were possible to only add them to the list when first detected, as a special scenario start situation, or when listed in the possible platforms list of the ESM emitter classification window then that would be pretty cool.  But I'm sure we agree there are bigger fish to fry at the moment.  :D

You do know our contact report dialog does do that right?

If there an emitting contact that you don't know much about select the contact report button. Will give you a list of possible contacts.

We know - and it's that dialog we're mentioning. It brings up aircraft in the future.

In my example I spotted an unknown and clicked on the Contacts button - and it showed me Mirage IIIs for various countries and eras - including one for Brazil for 1998 (as well as others) as the potential platform - for my 1982 scenario  :o

[GDS_Starfury]

to be fair, Brazilian booty transcends time.

[JudgeDredd]

... anyway my sead patrol has 6 planes, they go in but are unable to destroy the sam sites. they RTB(Winchester) like they are supposed to do but when they get back to base they have a 6 hour turnaround time. the scenario itself is only like 4 hours...

I questioned the turnaround time - not highlighting it as a game bug, but questioned does it REALLY take that long to re-arm and refuel in this modern day?

If those turnaround times were around during WWII, the Hornet and the Enterprise might well have joined the Yorktown at the Battle of Midway!!

NB I'm not saying the turnaround times are wrong - but if those are factual turnaround times for modern day platforms, well...any future war would likely die out through lack of participation!

[Dimitris]

Yes, modern aircraft are significantly more maintenance-intensive and mission planning & preparation also takes much longer.

USAF's most overtasked airframes during Desert Storm, the F-4Gs, only managed 4 sorties per day during surge ops. Other aircraft such as A-10s and AV-8s managed more sorties and this is reflected in their lower ready times.

[jomni]

playing air tutorial. I keep getting further without the program locking up so I guess that's a good sign!! anyway my sead patrol has 6 planes, they go in but are unable to destroy the sam sites. they RTB(Winchester) like they are supposed to do but when they get back to base they have a 6 hour turnaround time. the scenario itself is only like 4 hours. I also ordered my 12 tomcats to RTB since there were no more air threats. I unassigned from mission. when they got back to base they went into readying status for like 10-20 minutes. why would they do this? there mission was complete. they should stand down and wait for further orders. my land strike aircraft also RTB(Winchester) and they now have 6 hour turnaround times and the mission will be over in 2. I find it odd that the tomcats returned to base and were able to be rearmed in about 15 minutes but my other aircraft have to wait 6 hours. I am using build 438.

  it's a scenario constraint to make the most out of your first strike (no second chances).
Remember not 100% of the squadron is available.  If they were then you can quickly launch a 2nd strike.
Hence the 1/3 rule.