Rome II

[Mr. Bigglesworth]

If Jarhead would allow me to cap off the ethical discussion, I would like to end it with one point. A history professor of mine once warned against looking at ancient cultures through the lens of modern ethics. Ancient cultures would seem quite alien to the modern people, so one needs to examine those cultures within the context of their times.

Definately. Lets also appreciate how easy our higher moral standards are with all the advancements that have made everything come pretty easy. 

[Gusington]

So is that new Beasts of War DLC worth 2.99?

[Sir Slash]

I haven't run into any new units yet to say how good they are but I checked them out a little in a custom battle and their stats look interesting enough. I haven't seen any potential mod conflicts noted anywhere and that's good. I think the new units are pretty limited in who can recruit them. Parthia is the only faction that I noticed had the new armored camels but there were several that could get the armored elephants, mostly eastern factions. Playing as Rome, I don't think we get hardly any new units and so we have stopped all research into all techs but "Insecticide" so we can handle the bees, scorpions and snakes.

[mikeck]

If my highly trained Legionaire cohort gets stomped by armored camels, I'm going to throw a complete fit

[mikeck]

If I but The armor camel super elephant rocket powered chariot DLC do I have to start a new game?

[Gusington]

^Clearly yes :)

[mikeck]

Hmm, figured as much. I will hold off. I might get it just for fun anyway eventually. I mean does anyone by total war games to experience ultimate realism?

[Gusington]

^I was kidding! The DLC, especially one like this, is just an unlock of units that are already there. No restart necessary.

And I have never bought a TW to experience ultimate realism. If I wanted that I would starve myself and go try to survive naked in the woods.

[mikeck]

I do starve myself and live in the woods to try and get into the "zone" before a Rome game

[GDS_Starfury]

I wanted that I would starve myself and go try to survive naked in the woods.

talk dirty to me baby!

[Nefaro]

If my highly trained Legionaire cohort gets stomped by armored camels, I'm going to throw a complete fit

I'm wondering - if you use the DLC, will the AI tend to load up on some of these crazy animal troops?

I would like to see the camels in there, but the rest is blah.  I'd be concerned that the AI might go on a 'Flaming Pigs' buying spree or something.   :-\

[Yskonyn]

Still, eventhough I don't have to play TW games to experience insane realism, but are these armored camels totally made up or are they at least subject to speculation as in 'Secret weapons of the Egyptianwaffe' ?

If so I might get it (the stock wardogs are plain brutal!!), but I do not care to make my RTW into Lord of the Pyramids.

[Nefaro]

I don't think there were any Armored Camel soldiers until much later.  Somewhere in the Middle Ages or Medieval period, perhaps?  For the Ottomans or Persians?  Even then, probably not the same.

If there were armored camel warriors in the Roman Period, I don't think there were very many.   

[bayonetbrant]

in case y'all missed it on the front page

http://grogheads.com/?p=3995

[Sir Slash]

According to the DLC, Armored Camel cataphracts made their debut at the battle of Nisbis in 217 AD. The Armored Elephants are only recruitable as mercs at certain cities. The Snake-Pots are Carthage only. And the 2 War-Dog units look identical but the Celtic War Dogs bark with an Irish accent.  ;)