Sounds like diplomacy and internal politics will take on an even larger role:
I've given up hope of ever staying in front of the dlc for ck2
"At least you feel closer to God if only because you're dead." :2funny:
Man, I'm not sure that particular screenshot is the best for selling a DLC about politics.
Crusader Kings 2: NERVOUS PERVY GUY MAY GET CAUGHT! :buck2:
Quote from: undercovergeek on January 07, 2016, 04:59:10 PM
I've given up hope of ever staying in front of the dlc for ck2
Yeah, I don't even try. I just pick & choose the ones I want. (I never bothered with the
Horse Lords DLC, for instance.)
Quote from: JasonPratt on January 08, 2016, 12:55:28 PM
Man, I'm not sure that particular screenshot is the best for selling a DLC about politics.
Crusader Kings 2: NERVOUS PERVY GUY MAY GET CAUGHT! :buck2:
Heh. Yeah, I'm in complete agreement with you on that.
He actually reminds me of the Creepy Chaplain from Terminal Lance. >:D :buck2:
I agree, he looks like a cannibal from a Kurosawa movie.
And so it begins.
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Quote from: Ian C on January 10, 2016, 10:38:13 AM
And so it begins.
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Seriously laughing my ass off on this one...
Here's the .png file if anyone wants to give this meme any life.
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I would blame myself for this, but after all this is the internet.
Quote from: jamus34 on January 10, 2016, 11:12:09 AM
Quote from: Ian C on January 10, 2016, 10:38:13 AM
And so it begins.
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Seriously laughing my ass off on this one...
Same here. ;D Thanks
Ian. After the night/day I've had, I needed that.
Quote from: Martok on January 10, 2016, 05:23:42 PM
Same here. ;D Thanks Ian. After the night/day I've had, I needed that.
You're welcome. Laughter is often the best tonic.
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Wowza.
There appears to be a button at the front
Quote from: Ian C on January 10, 2016, 06:01:08 PM
Quote from: Martok on January 10, 2016, 05:23:42 PM
Same here. ;D Thanks Ian. After the night/day I've had, I needed that.
You're welcome. Laughter is often the best tonic.
I laughed until I hurt with that one.
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<snicker> That's so wrong...
delete
Well that's lame. :(
Quote from: Martok on January 11, 2016, 08:39:55 AM
Well that's lame. :(
You asked for it.
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...
I didn't ask for that.
At all.
Still kind of funny though. ::)
Aieee!!! :o I didn't ask for that either!
My "lame" comment was in response to what Ian originally posted. I didn't realized he'd deleted it til now.
Quote from: JasonPratt on January 11, 2016, 09:18:56 AM
Still kind of funny though. ::)
You find my sister funny?
If that's your sister, I'm Mickey Mouse. :P
Of course it's not my sister.
I had to reply in case anyone thought it is.
Quote from: Ian C on January 11, 2016, 09:00:32 AM
Quote from: Martok on January 11, 2016, 08:39:55 AM
Well that's lame. :(
You asked for it.
Buahahha!
Gave 'im both barrels and four or five necks to boot!
:2funny:
That's actually my sister. It's glandular!!
I would say this is getting silly, but really that's our usual starting point.
New dev dairy for conclave:
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads/conclave-dev-diary-1.902002/
Woow, seems a lot of changes with more depth already going to happen for CK2, some those changes been influenced by CK+ mod for sure.
What you guys think?
If there is one game that I feel doesn't need more depth, it's CK2!
I really, really have to start playing this.
Quote from: Gusington on January 12, 2016, 09:26:19 AM
I really, really have to start playing this.
You really, really do. O0
Someday.
Someday never comes.....
That's depressing.
Quote from: Gusington on January 12, 2016, 09:26:19 AM
I really, really have to start playing this.
I need to start playing it more than I have...just like all my other games that I've purchased but barely touched. Sigh.
I am wondering, however, if I shouldn't actually wait until
Conclave is released? Given that one of the things it's supposed to do is make things a bit easier when you're first starting out (and then more difficult in the mid/late) game, it seems like that would be the logical thing for a new(ish) player to do (at least on paper).
I will wait till conclave release to start another game, well preferably after the fixing patch of conclave patch :D
I played one game after horse lord.. for now I will not touch CK2, at the same time I am waiting for the balance big patch of EU4 to start playing the later.
Ah, that is my usual paradox playing cycle after each patch/ DLC...
Quote from: Raied on January 12, 2016, 12:47:37 PM
I will wait till conclave release to start another game, well preferably after the fixing patch of conclave patch :D
This.
Also, why are we talking about the DLC? Did we run out of memes?!
You said the magic words Martok. Now I have to definitely get Conclave. I will send you the receipt.
When is thr release date?
Quote from: Gusington on January 12, 2016, 03:14:27 PM
You said the magic words Martok.
"Aquaman"?
Quote from: Gusington on January 12, 2016, 03:14:27 PM
When is thr release date?
Per their usual practice, Paradox hasn't set one yet.
However, I've noticed that where their DLC is concerned -- as opposed to base/primary titles (such as
Crusader Kings II) -- there's generally less delay between when they announce it and when it actually comes out. Based on that, I would guess that
Conclave will be released in another month or so, maybe two at the outside.
Quote from: JasonPratt on January 12, 2016, 01:40:18 PM
Did we run out of memes?!
No, but there's this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OeJ5AXfEkF4
The lead QA guy has rings in his lips.
I will now irrationally assume this explains so many things. ::)
I thought it was a Sims 4 trailer.
A pretty huge dev diary is now up. It covers, well, lots of things:
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads%2Fconclave-dev-diary-3-homeschooling.904196%2F
Quote from: Martok on January 27, 2016, 03:41:52 PM
A pretty huge dev diary is now up. It covers, well, lots of things:
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads%2Fconclave-dev-diary-3-homeschooling.904196%2F
Pretty impressive. If they can pull it off, this may be the DLC that gets me to fire up the game again.
Quote from: Queeg on January 27, 2016, 06:30:27 PM
Pretty impressive. If they can pull it off, this may be the DLC that gets me to fire up the game again.
+1. Such a brilliant game, though I haven't played in some time (...don't seem to have the mental stamina to deal with it these days :uglystupid2:). But an intriguing DLC could be just what I need to dive back in.
I see this released today and as usual, most of the DLC is also on sale....might have to pick up some of my missing pieces with the hopes when day I actually play it:)
i jumped in and bought it it today. I'm just scratching the surface but the new features look great and seem to work well.
One big downer, though: They apparently tweaked the retreat mechanic to bring back the dreaded "ping-pong" armies of yore. Basically, they revived a bug and are billing it as a feature. There are reports, for example, of Harold Godwinson invading Normandy, losing and retreating to Brittany, losing again and retreating to lower France, losing a third time and marching the length of France to go back to England. Sigh....
Quote from: Queeg on January 27, 2016, 06:30:27 PM
Quote from: Martok on January 27, 2016, 03:41:52 PM
A pretty huge dev diary is now up. It covers, well, lots of things:
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads%2Fconclave-dev-diary-3-homeschooling.904196%2F
Pretty impressive. If they can pull it off, this may be the DLC that gets me to fire up the game again.
Sounds really cool . . . but still, you're basically training your children to grow up and try to murder you, right? That was what turned me off this game - I know that familycide historically happened from time to time with noble and royal families, but not ALL the time! I conceived of the point of this game as being to build a talented and powerful family, but the mechanics of the game pretty much fractures your family and house virtually every generation, and it's utter foolishness to try and set your heir up with holdings because he will just use them to raise an army and march on you. I eventually gave up and never touched it again.
Quote from: Queeg on February 02, 2016, 10:49:22 PM
One big downer, though: They apparently tweaked the retreat mechanic to bring back the dreaded "ping-pong" armies of yore. Basically, they revived a bug and are billing it as a feature.
Wait -- why in God's name would Pdox re-introduce this?? How is this now a feature -- i.e. what useful purpose does it serve -- as opposed to being the much-lamented bane of Pdox combat mechanics from time immemorial?
Quote from: Queeg on February 02, 2016, 10:49:22 PM
One big downer, though: They apparently tweaked the retreat mechanic to bring back the dreaded "ping-pong" armies of yore. Basically, they revived a bug and are billing it as a feature. There are reports, for example, of Harold Godwinson invading Normandy, losing and retreating to Brittany, losing again and retreating to lower France, losing a third time and marching the length of France to go back to England. Sigh....
OMG Nooooo! :tickedoff:
That was one of the most hated side effects of the Pdox games, and a momentous outpouring of joy was heard across the world when they finally implemented mechanics to nix that shit.
Now it's back?! @$%&*@!
If they're talking it up, that means they don't want to fix it and it's probably stuck into the core game again. I hope this isn't the case. C:-)
Quote from: glen55 on February 02, 2016, 11:36:09 PM
Quote from: Queeg on January 27, 2016, 06:30:27 PM
Quote from: Martok on January 27, 2016, 03:41:52 PM
A pretty huge dev diary is now up. It covers, well, lots of things:
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads%2Fconclave-dev-diary-3-homeschooling.904196%2F
Pretty impressive. If they can pull it off, this may be the DLC that gets me to fire up the game again.
Sounds really cool . . . but still, you're basically training your children to grow up and try to murder you, right? That was what turned me off this game - I know that familycide historically happened from time to time with noble and royal families, but not ALL the time! I conceived of the point of this game as being to build a talented and powerful family, but the mechanics of the game pretty much fractures your family and house virtually every generation, and it's utter foolishness to try and set your heir up with holdings because he will just use them to raise an army and march on you. I eventually gave up and never touched it again.
i think i have 300 hours of CKII and not once did my kids try to kill me - are you sure youre playing it right?
The point is to just play the game and RPG what happens, marry your daughters to rich kings, groom your heir to be..... well a decent heir and manage the kingdom at no point is there a real opportunity to build a powerful 'family' you can influence your character and your children - and if theyre bothering you, kill them, shag the maid and raise a grateful bastard as your heir O0
Oh... CK2 certainly ratchets up the crazy aristocracy factor. But it's not always poisoned soup and your kid's dagger in your back. They do keep it high for the drama factor, though.
IIRC, you can mod the family relations bonus with a single text edit in CK2. If you want family members to be more loyal.
I've had my kids plot against me a few times...always been the oldest son who is impatient. I just kill him or lock him up. No problem. I mean, that stuff happened in real life so why not here
Quote from: undercovergeek on February 03, 2016, 04:27:58 PM
Quote from: glen55 on February 02, 2016, 11:36:09 PM
Quote from: Queeg on January 27, 2016, 06:30:27 PM
Quote from: Martok on January 27, 2016, 03:41:52 PM
A pretty huge dev diary is now up. It covers, well, lots of things:
https://forum.paradoxplaza.com/forum/index.php?threads%2Fconclave-dev-diary-3-homeschooling.904196%2F
Pretty impressive. If they can pull it off, this may be the DLC that gets me to fire up the game again.
Sounds really cool . . . but still, you're basically training your children to grow up and try to murder you, right? That was what turned me off this game - I know that familycide historically happened from time to time with noble and royal families, but not ALL the time! I conceived of the point of this game as being to build a talented and powerful family, but the mechanics of the game pretty much fractures your family and house virtually every generation, and it's utter foolishness to try and set your heir up with holdings because he will just use them to raise an army and march on you. I eventually gave up and never touched it again.
i think i have 300 hours of CKII and not once did my kids try to kill me - are you sure youre playing it right?
The point is to just play the game and RPG what happens, marry your daughters to rich kings, groom your heir to be..... well a decent heir and manage the kingdom at no point is there a real opportunity to build a powerful 'family' you can influence your character and your children - and if theyre bothering you, kill them, shag the maid and raise a grateful bastard as your heir O0
REALLY? Suddenly I am very interested in playing CK again!
May I ask when did you start playing? is it possible that behavior has been patched out? I played the hell out of the game when it was new, but eventually got sick of the constant intra-familial war and insurrections by my children. I haven't played in years.
So you're saying you can give an appropriately-sized holding to your second son, and he will not rebel against you?
???
As far as "playing it right" goes, well, I'm sure it wasn't perfect, but my guys were gaining great power and I was trying all kinds of stuff to avoid family conflict, like NEVER promoting or marrying people with "ambitious" trait, doing everything to promote loyalty, browsing the forums for tips. Basically, I'm a veteran Paradox gamer - nearly everything they've ever made, starting with EU 1 - and had a clue about how to play a Paradox game.
Is it conceivable that my problem was related to the fact that I always played as the Earl of Dublin (or whatever that's called)? Don't think I ever tried playing as a duke or king, and any experimentation with other earls was brief.
Other than the family thing, I loved the game, and this new education sub-game sounds like a big improvement.
Finally, on the ping-pong retreat thing: it's not really as bad as it was at its worst, is it? Things can certainly get over-dramatized in the Paradox forums.