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Title: Steam & Shogun 2
Post by: bob48 on April 07, 2012, 08:29:13 AM
I'm sure one of you experts will be able to explain this to me, as I'm a bit baffled (nothing unusual there, I know).

My copy of Shogun 2 arrived today, and now I'm trying to install it. I inserted disc one, reactivated my steam account, and it started in install. It has not requested that I insert disc 2, and it seems to be installing from the Steam site, which is going to take around 4 hours. I can't see why it wont just install from the discs.

What am I doing wrong, as I cant see the point of having 2 discs if you cant use 'em to install the game?

Ta.
Title: Re: Steam & Shogun 2
Post by: Hartford688 on April 07, 2012, 10:00:40 AM
https://support.steampowered.com/kb_article.php?ref=5357-FSQM-0382

Though I have not tried myself. I personally just let Steam download.
Title: Re: Steam & Shogun 2
Post by: bob48 on April 07, 2012, 10:31:14 AM
Thanks. Aye, I found that and followed what it said, it seems to be downloading a patch or update that fluctuates between 2 and 7 hours download time.

I must admit, the Steam way of doing things has put me off other games that use this method. I may be old fashioned, but I would rather just buy a game, install it, and play the damn thing. I know its my choice to buy or not, but I do not like being forced to use Steam in order to play a game that I have paid for - but that's just me and not everyone will agree with that.

Title: Re: Steam & Shogun 2
Post by: Bison on April 07, 2012, 10:45:50 AM
Also remember that Shogun 2 has all of the Rise of the Shogun, DLC and Patches that it has to download too regardless if you use the disc or not.
Title: Re: Steam & Shogun 2
Post by: bob48 on April 07, 2012, 10:51:40 AM
Ah, maybe thats why there is such a big D/L then Bison. Plus the missus is now in an massive 10 man instance in WoW so she's pinched some of my band-width......................
Title: Re: Steam & Shogun 2
Post by: Staggerwing on April 07, 2012, 01:00:00 PM
Quote from: bob48 on April 07, 2012, 10:51:40 AM
Plus the missus is now in an massive 10 man instance in WoW so she's pinched some of my band-width......................

Is that one o' them 'open marriage' kinda things you got yerself there, or are you talking about something else?  ;D
Title: Re: Steam & Shogun 2
Post by: Hartford688 on April 07, 2012, 01:03:23 PM
Quote from: Staggerwing on April 07, 2012, 01:00:00 PM
Quote from: bob48 on April 07, 2012, 10:51:40 AM
Plus the missus is now in an massive 10 man instance in WoW so she's pinched some of my band-width......................

Is that one o' them 'open marriage' kinda things you got yerself there, or are you talking about something else?  ;D

LOL. I choked a bit on my dinner myself when I read that. And I live in Amsterdam... ;)

I'm told 10 man instances are pretty expensive here even in the RLD.
Title: Re: Steam & Shogun 2
Post by: bob48 on April 07, 2012, 01:22:32 PM
....as a matter of fact, quite a few of her WoW guild are Dutch.........
Title: Re: Steam & Shogun 2
Post by: bob48 on April 08, 2012, 09:36:15 AM
Well, spent ages getting Shogun 2 installed and patched, and have had no end of bother with it. Very long delays between screens, and after a few moves the game locks up and I get the old 'Not Responding' message in task manager, so Gawds Nose what's going on.

I have now uninstalled it and may try again at some point as it does look like a beutiful game. I assume I have to maintain the connection with Steam in order to play it, and I don't have a much faith in Steam to be candid.

I'm an even misserable 'ol git than I was before, and that's sayin' something  :'(
Title: Re: Steam & Shogun 2
Post by: Bison on April 08, 2012, 09:54:04 AM
It's too late now but doing a file validation often can solve problems like this and it takes only a couple of minutes.  The other possiblity is that your system is not up to the game specs.
Title: Re: Steam & Shogun 2
Post by: bob48 on April 08, 2012, 10:59:19 AM
Maybe, but its ok with other games, and it is above the minimum specs, so dunno what to think.
Title: Re: Steam & Shogun 2
Post by: Gusington on April 08, 2012, 03:37:06 PM
Try file validation and a defrag of the game too. It is worth it to get it working. Classic, beautiful game.
Title: Re: Steam & Shogun 2
Post by: bob48 on April 08, 2012, 04:57:53 PM
Yep, I will try again, as you say, it looks so good.
I just sat and watched The last Samuri on DVD as well, so that's given me even more incentive  ;)
Title: Re: Steam & Shogun 2
Post by: bob48 on April 09, 2012, 06:33:20 AM
Right, I've re-installed it and now just waiting for the patch to finish downloading, then I'll see whats what.
Title: Re: Steam & Shogun 2
Post by: bob48 on April 15, 2012, 10:33:51 AM
Well, its obviously an hardware issue with my rig. After trying different settings, I'm now on the low graphix mode in DX9 rather than DX11, and hav just banged off 50 turns without it crashing.

Looks like a beefier rig is called for. At least I can play the damn game now though, and to be fair, the graphics still aint that bad.
Title: Re: Steam & Shogun 2
Post by: LongBlade on April 15, 2012, 12:18:55 PM
Glad you figured it out. Let us know what you're considering buying - Migs' next article is supposed to cover what to do when you really need a new rig. It'll give him an excuse to start working on it ;)
Title: Re: Steam & Shogun 2
Post by: bob48 on April 15, 2012, 12:28:40 PM
I'm looking at refurbs again - quad core, at least a pent i5, although an i7 would be nice. As usual, as much RAM and cache as possible. I'll stick with an nVidia, hopefully one thats better than the GT430 that I have now.

I sure would be glad to dump Vista for W7 though.

Much depends on the money situation, since Mrs Bob, (who, I might add, already has a rig not unlike the one described above) hath decreed that we do some work on our ancient hovel this year, so spare cash for something as trivial as a new rig for me may well be denied!
Title: Re: Steam & Shogun 2
Post by: Fetrik on April 15, 2012, 12:30:25 PM
The solution is simple. Switch rig with the wife... :D
Title: Re: Steam & Shogun 2
Post by: bob48 on April 15, 2012, 12:47:29 PM
...if only........

Its almost impossible to winkle her out of WoW land........
Title: Re: Steam & Shogun 2
Post by: Fetrik on April 15, 2012, 12:54:07 PM
No Wow would fund restoration of ancient hovel!
Hmm maybe not. I am a firm beliver that mmo keeps people too occupied to spend money on other crap.
Title: Re: Steam & Shogun 2
Post by: bob48 on April 15, 2012, 01:55:04 PM
she multi-tasks ;D
Title: Re: Steam & Shogun 2
Post by: Gusington on April 15, 2012, 08:28:00 PM
When I got my new PC about 6 months ago and switched from Vista to W7 it felt like sweet, sweet liberation.
Title: Re: Steam & Shogun 2
Post by: TheCommandTent on April 15, 2012, 09:04:48 PM
Quote from: Gusington on April 15, 2012, 08:28:00 PM
When I got my new PC about 6 months ago and switched from Vista to W7 it felt like sweet, sweet liberation.

I'll second that.  I got a new PC with W7 in Dec. and am really enjoying it.