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Title: GTA series - whats the best of the bunch
Post by: undercovergeek on May 27, 2014, 06:13:21 PM
Reading a lot of stuff about Watchdogs, not a lot of happy people out there but a lot of references to GTA and how Watchdogs doesnt compare. I dont see the GTA range mentioned often

Looking for a bit of guidance on the series. I played the top down original and San Andreas on PS2

I have a PC that will play any of them on decent settings and a PS3

So which ones the best and which format?

Title: Re: GTA series - whats the best of the bunch
Post by: Silent Disapproval Robot on May 27, 2014, 06:44:39 PM
4 is the only one that's worthwhile.

I'd recommend Sleeping Dogs over GTA though. 
Title: Re: GTA series - whats the best of the bunch
Post by: W8taminute on May 27, 2014, 07:16:28 PM
I liked V better than IV.  My all time favorite though was Vice City but that is going to look dated compared to today's games.
Title: Re: GTA series - whats the best of the bunch
Post by: smittyohio on May 27, 2014, 08:09:39 PM
Quote from: W8taminute on May 27, 2014, 07:16:28 PM
I liked V better than IV.  My all time favorite though was Vice City but that is going to look dated compared to today's games.

It's not even so much the visuals as the controls... I tried playing it with a keyboard / mouse, and it just is almost unbearable, especially the driving.   There are hacks to get it to somewhat work with a controller, but it wasn't worth it for me. 
Title: Re: GTA series - whats the best of the bunch
Post by: RooksBailey on May 27, 2014, 08:58:40 PM
Quote from: undercovergeek on May 27, 2014, 06:13:21 PM
Reading a lot of stuff about Watchdogs, not a lot of happy people out there but a lot of references to GTA and how Watchdogs doesnt compare. I dont see the GTA range mentioned often

Yeah, Watch_Dogs seems to be yet another sloppy, over-hyped console port based on what I am reading.  Shame, I was looking forward to it.  Fortunately, unlike a lot of other people, I knew better than to pre-order.   ;)

As for GTA, the best one for the PC is GTA IV.  To be honest, I never cared for it.  I think I played it for four hours before deleting it from my HDD.  But your mileage might vary.

Like others have said, Sleeping Dogs is also a good open-city type of game that you might want to consider.   And I also heartily recommend Saints Row III and IV.  Even Prototype I and II can be fun in a similar vein.
Title: Re: GTA series - whats the best of the bunch
Post by: RooksBailey on May 28, 2014, 12:09:49 AM
I was poking around the Steam GTA IV forum and discovered something important: if you are running Win 8, there seems to be a good probability that you will have a devil of a time getting this game to run.  Seems people are getting all sorts of compatibility errors that are difficult to resolve.   So, keep that in mind if you are still considering getting GTA IV. 

Title: Re: GTA series - whats the best of the bunch
Post by: Yskonyn on May 28, 2014, 01:55:10 AM
I found the story in most GTA games top notch and super fun, although I cafés the least for SAN Andreas' gangbanger storyline.
The territory in the game was huge though, so as a sandbox lots of fun to be had!

Story-wise my favorite is the latest game, though. Its brilliant in every single way and characters are memorable. Even the smaller roles.

What I dont like about V though is that the threshold of vehicles dissapearing when out of view is much closer than in earlier games.
Note that I only play it on the X360 so it might be a limitation of the relative age of the system compared with the amount of content and quality of visuals the game has.
But it prevents you to make those big old fashioned road crossing blockades and cause huge explosions; every time you wander off a bit to far to get the next car your pileup behind you vanishes and traffic starts to move again.
No idea if this is different on PC.

But for a fun experience with lots of content you can't go wrong with any of the games I feel. :)
Title: Re: GTA series - whats the best of the bunch
Post by: skeptical.platypus on May 28, 2014, 10:21:46 AM
Quote from: Silent Disapproval Robot on May 27, 2014, 06:44:39 PM
4 is the only one that's worthwhile.

I'd recommend Sleeping Dogs over GTA though.

Very much agreed re Sleeping Dogs. As far as open world games I've played, it's Skyrim, Sleeping Dogs, and GTA IV, in that order.

I haven't played GTA V (I can't handle controllers), but GTA IV is the best of 1-4.
Title: Re: GTA series - whats the best of the bunch
Post by: undercovergeek on May 28, 2014, 10:54:33 AM
Is 4 playable with keyboard and mouse then? I see its only 19.99 on steam
Title: Re: GTA series - whats the best of the bunch
Post by: Silent Disapproval Robot on May 28, 2014, 10:59:08 AM
Yup, that's how I played it.

If you're not in any particular hurry, I'd suggest holding off for now.  Both Sleeping Dogs and GTA IV go on sale quite frequently and you'll likely be able to get one or the other for $5 or so within a few weeks.

EDIT: In fact, using that handy isthereanydeal link GR provided, I see that Sleeping Dogs is on for $5 right now.  Never used this company myself though.

http://www.gametap-shop.com/buy-download-pc-games/Sleeping-Dogs---Digital-Edition-2437-13.html (http://www.gametap-shop.com/buy-download-pc-games/Sleeping-Dogs---Digital-Edition-2437-13.html)
Title: Re: GTA series - whats the best of the bunch
Post by: RooksBailey on May 28, 2014, 10:15:30 PM
I just wanted to follow up on my warning about people with Win 8 experiencing difficulties running the game.  I just reinstalled my copy and gave it a run with no problems save the need to remove GfWL (you can't save a game with it running).  There is a file you can download to disable GfWL, so that takes care of that (but it DOES prevent you from playing online). 

Title: Re: GTA series - whats the best of the bunch
Post by: Lord Zimoa on May 29, 2014, 12:50:18 AM
Enjoying very much GTA V and I recommend GTA V Online as well, especially playing with friends or crews is utterly fun!

I would play the whole GTA V SP game first though, before plunging into GTA V Online, but it is the best game of the series and now I`me looking forward to the expansions.

Like mentioned before by some here, the characters, the story, the details , the jokes....  all is so well done. Fluid UI and gameplay, Rockstar deserves all the credit... the game plays perfect on a console.

GTA V and GTA V online are just one of the best that are out there at the moment in open world fun gaming.

Also a rumor is Read Dead Redemption 2 and RDR2 Online is in the works? I  miss Mr. Marston... would be cool to see him back.

Title: Re: GTA series - whats the best of the bunch
Post by: jomni on May 29, 2014, 03:08:59 AM
Not GTA but if you're after similar game style, Pandemic's Mercenaries series is recommended. There are no silly crime spree plots.

Sleeping dogs is really good. Love the story and hand to hand combat mechanics.
Title: Re: GTA series - whats the best of the bunch
Post by: Jarhead0331 on May 29, 2014, 06:17:00 AM
GTA V is the best of the series, without question, however, it is not available on PC. It is only on console. Of the PC titles, GTA IV is the best and there are some excellent mods out for it, as well.

Sleeping Dogs is a great game too, but I would not put it ahead of GTA IV as far as open world games go. In Sleeping Dogs, I found less incentive to really deviate from the main story and explore the world. so once I completed the story, I had no desire to go back and play anymore.  That being said, the story was great and held my attention through completion, which is exceedingly rare for me these days.
Title: Re: GTA series - whats the best of the bunch
Post by: undercovergeek on May 29, 2014, 06:18:54 AM
thanks for all comments guys - i think im going to go for IV on the PC

mods you say JH?
Title: Re: GTA series - whats the best of the bunch
Post by: Jarhead0331 on May 29, 2014, 06:24:42 AM
Quote from: undercovergeek on May 29, 2014, 06:18:54 AM
thanks for all comments guys - i think im going to go for IV on the PC

mods you say JH?

Yes. Tons of them. My personal favorite is one that turns the game into a police simulator. You pull people over, write tickets, patrol e streets, stop crimes, etc. very well done.
Title: Re: GTA series - whats the best of the bunch
Post by: undercovergeek on May 29, 2014, 07:03:45 AM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on May 29, 2014, 06:24:42 AM
Quote from: undercovergeek on May 29, 2014, 06:18:54 AM
thanks for all comments guys - i think im going to go for IV on the PC

mods you say JH?

Yes. Tons of them. My personal favorite is one that turns the game into a police simulator. You pull people over, write tickets, patrol e streets, stop crimes, etc. very well done.

lol, i definitely made the right choice then - have you got a link?
Title: Re: GTA series - whats the best of the bunch
Post by: BanzaiCat on May 29, 2014, 07:21:02 AM
I echo W8's sentiments in that Vice City was my favorite of all of them...and it was the only one I actually played all the way through to the end. Every other one, including IV, would get its hooks into me for maybe 10 hours of gameplay before I'm bored with the storyline and start screwing around with cops and causing mass casualty incidents, but that itself gets boring even faster.

I tend to go through cycles with GTA games, especially with IV and San Andreas...I start playing it, enjoying it and having fun, then it gets dull, I stop playing, uninstall, later miss it and reinstall and start over...repeat.
Title: Re: GTA series - whats the best of the bunch
Post by: Grim.Reaper on May 29, 2014, 07:58:50 AM
I just bought the big bundle at amazon for $12...

http://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00IIRWH4O/ref=mp_s_a_1_15?qid=1401367803&sr=8-15
Title: Re: GTA series - whats the best of the bunch
Post by: Jarhead0331 on May 29, 2014, 09:43:08 AM
Quote from: undercovergeek on May 29, 2014, 07:03:45 AM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on May 29, 2014, 06:24:42 AM
Quote from: undercovergeek on May 29, 2014, 06:18:54 AM
thanks for all comments guys - i think im going to go for IV on the PC

mods you say JH?

Yes. Tons of them. My personal favorite is one that turns the game into a police simulator. You pull people over, write tickets, patrol e streets, stop crimes, etc. very well done.

lol, i definitely made the right choice then - have you got a link?

Start here: http://www.lcpdfr.com/ (http://www.lcpdfr.com/)
Title: Re: GTA series - whats the best of the bunch
Post by: undercovergeek on May 29, 2014, 10:10:19 AM
im very grateful - it looks awesome  8)
Title: Re: GTA series - whats the best of the bunch
Post by: TacticalWargames on May 29, 2014, 03:48:22 PM
I enjoyed the biker episodes. Apart from that I  feel GTA 1 and 2 for me are my favourites. Most likely in a minority on that score though.
Title: Re: GTA series - whats the best of the bunch
Post by: Silent Disapproval Robot on May 30, 2014, 10:39:24 AM
Gamersgate has a Rockstar bundle sale on this weekend.  You can get GTA IV plus the two DLC expansions and one other game such as Max Payne 3 or LA Noire all for $18 USD.

http://www.gamersgate.com/rockstar (http://www.gamersgate.com/rockstar)
Title: Re: GTA series - whats the best of the bunch
Post by: Grim.Reaper on May 30, 2014, 08:09:51 PM
Quote from: RooksBailey on May 28, 2014, 10:15:30 PM
I just wanted to follow up on my warning about people with Win 8 experiencing difficulties running the game.  I just reinstalled my copy and gave it a run with no problems save the need to remove GfWL (you can't save a game with it running).  There is a file you can download to disable GfWL, so that takes care of that (but it DOES prevent you from playing online).

Do you have a link to these instructions on how to get it working and get around GFWL?  I don't care about online play so hoping this works for me.
Title: Re: GTA series - whats the best of the bunch
Post by: RooksBailey on May 30, 2014, 09:08:53 PM
Yeah, it is easy (sorry, I should have included the link).  Just download this:

Download XLiveless here:  http://gtaforums.com/topic/388658-relgtaiv-xliveless/

Extract the file and move the xlive.dll (I think that it what it is called, there is a readme if I have the name wrong) to your Steam/GTA4 folder.

Start the game but don't sign in to the GTA social club (choose the play offline option).  The game will now run without GfWL and you will be able to autosave and save your game as designed. 

Another tip:  GTAIV doesn't have any anti-aliasing, so the game looks horrid at times.  However, if you go into your nVidia or AMD control panel, you can force anti-aliasing on.  It made for a noticeable improvement for me:

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3667/14309358135_67c0e5f3d1_b.jpg)

Not as good as native AA, but it is something.
Title: Re: GTA series - whats the best of the bunch
Post by: Grim.Reaper on May 30, 2014, 09:17:51 PM
Great...thank you.
Title: Re: GTA series - whats the best of the bunch
Post by: Nefaro on May 31, 2014, 02:50:05 AM
Quote from: skeptical.platypus on May 28, 2014, 10:21:46 AM

Very much agreed re Sleeping Dogs. As far as open world games I've played, it's Skyrim, Sleeping Dogs, and GTA IV, in that order.

No Just Cause 2 in your open world action list?   Awww.   :(
Title: Re: GTA series - whats the best of the bunch
Post by: RooksBailey on May 31, 2014, 03:22:42 AM
Quote from: Nefaro on May 31, 2014, 02:50:05 AM
Quote from: skeptical.platypus on May 28, 2014, 10:21:46 AM

Very much agreed re Sleeping Dogs. As far as open world games I've played, it's Skyrim, Sleeping Dogs, and GTA IV, in that order.

No Just Cause 2 in your open world action list?   Awww.   :(

Wow, you guys have given me so many of these sandbox third-person action games to check out!  I was never a fan of the genre, but Saints Row III made me a rabid fan (I just completed that game - it was literally one of the best campaigns I ever played!  Hilarious as well as epic!).  Now I have revisited GTA IV and am discovering that I really like this game, too (I originally hated it!).  Now I have to check out Sleeping Dogs and Just Cause 2!  I don't know how I missed these games!

Thanks for all the leads!

BTW: this is from the early mission where you have to kill "the rat" for your new Russian boss (with the F name...Faustin?  Something like that).  In my game, the suspect ran away and jumped into his car to get away.  As he drove off, I emptied a magazine into the car and managed to kill the guy:

(https://farm3.staticflickr.com/2917/14307517241_cf8ac370dc_b.jpg)

Did this play out differently for anybody else?  I am curious just how much wiggle room there is in these missions.
Title: Re: GTA series - whats the best of the bunch
Post by: BanzaiCat on May 31, 2014, 09:59:54 AM
If you've not tried the Saints Row series, they're usually discounted on Steam; I have SR 2 and 3 and it's basically GTA but it has a lot more tongue-in-cheek attitude as to what it actually is. Not that GTA isn't like that considering what you can do and get away with, but Saints Row seems to have more fun doing it.
Title: Re: GTA series - whats the best of the bunch
Post by: W8taminute on May 31, 2014, 01:15:44 PM
^Right now Saints Row III is available free if you're an XBOXLIVE member.
Title: Re: GTA series - whats the best of the bunch
Post by: undercovergeek on May 31, 2014, 06:08:19 PM
Quote from: RooksBailey on May 30, 2014, 09:08:53 PM
Yeah, it is easy (sorry, I should have included the link).  Just download this:

Download XLiveless here:  http://gtaforums.com/topic/388658-relgtaiv-xliveless/

Extract the file and move the xlive.dll (I think that it what it is called, there is a readme if I have the name wrong) to your Steam/GTA4 folder.

Start the game but don't sign in to the GTA social club (choose the play offline option).  The game will now run without GfWL and you will be able to autosave and save your game as designed. 

Another tip:  GTAIV doesn't have any anti-aliasing, so the game looks horrid at times.  However, if you go into your nVidia or AMD control panel, you can force anti-aliasing on.  It made for a noticeable improvement for me:

(https://farm4.staticflickr.com/3667/14309358135_67c0e5f3d1_b.jpg)

Not as good as native AA, but it is something.

so at the minute, you drive to your house, go to the bed and save the game

is there no, random, anytime, anywhere save?
Title: Re: GTA series - whats the best of the bunch
Post by: RooksBailey on May 31, 2014, 09:26:56 PM
Quote from: undercovergeek on May 31, 2014, 06:08:19 PM
so at the minute, you drive to your house, go to the bed and save the game

is there no, random, anytime, anywhere save?

You can save when you go to your home, yes, but the game should also be auto-saving every time you complete a mission.  Make sure "auto-save" is on in the options if you are not seeing that.  As for a quick-save, no, I don't think that is available.  That annoys me too.
Title: Re: GTA series - whats the best of the bunch
Post by: Silent Disapproval Robot on May 31, 2014, 09:49:28 PM
The only time the lack of a quick save really bugged me was on the bank heist mission.  I must've failed that one a dozen or so times before I finally made it through.  Sucked that you had to go pick up Paki and listen to his inane drivel as you drove to the bank over and over again.  At least the devs switched the dialogue up a little each time.
Title: Re: GTA series - whats the best of the bunch
Post by: RooksBailey on May 31, 2014, 09:58:45 PM
Quote from: Silent Disapproval Robot on May 31, 2014, 09:49:28 PM
The only time the lack of a quick save really bugged me was on the bank heist mission.  I must've failed that one a dozen or so times before I finally made it through.  Sucked that you had to go pick up Paki and listen to his inane drivel as you drove to the bank over and over again.  At least the devs switched the dialogue up a little each time.

You are ahead of me.  I didn't even get that far yet.   ;)

Am I the only one who can't get THIS DAMNED SONG OUT OF MY FREAKIN' HEAD?!?!?


Title: Re: GTA series - whats the best of the bunch
Post by: Grim.Reaper on June 10, 2014, 04:14:09 AM
Just saw that gta v will be released on pc and next gen consoles this fall......
Title: Re: GTA series - whats the best of the bunch
Post by: undercovergeek on June 10, 2014, 04:48:49 AM
Quote from: RooksBailey on May 31, 2014, 09:58:45 PM
Quote from: Silent Disapproval Robot on May 31, 2014, 09:49:28 PM
The only time the lack of a quick save really bugged me was on the bank heist mission.  I must've failed that one a dozen or so times before I finally made it through.  Sucked that you had to go pick up Paki and listen to his inane drivel as you drove to the bank over and over again.  At least the devs switched the dialogue up a little each time.

You are ahead of me.  I didn't even get that far yet.   ;)

Am I the only one who can't get THIS DAMNED SONG OUT OF MY FREAKIN' HEAD?!?!?




i think the music choice and variety in vice city and san andreas was much better

but theres a few i like
Title: Re: GTA series - whats the best of the bunch
Post by: Lord Zimoa on June 11, 2014, 02:35:40 AM
Good news as well you will be able to carry over your current GTA V online characters to the the newer platforms. and just watch the trailer:

http://www.rockstargames.com/newswire/article/52261/
Title: Re: GTA series - whats the best of the bunch
Post by: skeptical.platypus on June 11, 2014, 01:26:01 PM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on June 10, 2014, 04:14:09 AM
Just saw that gta v will be released on pc and next gen consoles this fall......

Yay! I am still completely flummoxed by console controllers. Gimme WASD and Mouse, and I'll give you (more) money.
Title: Re: GTA series - whats the best of the bunch
Post by: Lord Zimoa on June 13, 2014, 02:51:12 PM
Remember the days boys... LOL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CJEUdPdvMNM#t=97

And now we are at:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DBrG2YjqQA



Cheers,


Tim aka LZ