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Title: Twilight Struggle....its back.
Post by: Grim.Reaper on June 05, 2014, 03:46:04 PM
Looks like kickstarter to bring back on the table...

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/559431060/twilight-struggle-digital-edition
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Post by: TheCommandTent on June 05, 2014, 03:49:06 PM
This is good news I really hope they get the funding and then produce a quality game.
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Post by: bayonetbrant on June 05, 2014, 04:01:08 PM
{sniff, sniff}

smells like...  GARPA!
Title: Re: Twilight Struggle....its back.
Post by: Grim.Reaper on June 05, 2014, 04:07:48 PM
I think I will hold off this time around......want to make sure they will come through before committing.
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Post by: Barthheart on June 05, 2014, 04:15:08 PM
Just checked the Kickstarter page .... they already have 932 backers and have already made the funding goal of $50,000.

I'll be jumping in again.
Title: Re: Twilight Struggle....its back.
Post by: Grim.Reaper on June 05, 2014, 04:16:53 PM
Quote from: Barthheart on June 05, 2014, 04:15:08 PM
Just checked the Kickstarter page .... they already have 932 backers and have already made the funding goal of $50,000.

I'll be jumping in again.

Wow, that was fast....

I am a little confused on which level is appropriate...I would want the digital PC version of the game and the digital expansion what-if, would that be the $30 level?  Not sure I will do it yet, but wondering.
Title: Re: Twilight Struggle....its back.
Post by: TheCommandTent on June 05, 2014, 04:18:56 PM
Quote from: Barthheart on June 05, 2014, 04:15:08 PM
Just checked the Kickstarter page .... they already have 932 backers and have already made the funding goal of $50,000.

I'll be jumping in again.

Wow that was fast.  I left my comment here and they were just at $38,000.  I am really happy for them because I know when they cancelled the P500 for it alot of people were disappointed including the guys from GMT.
Title: Re: Twilight Struggle....its back.
Post by: Barthheart on June 05, 2014, 04:19:52 PM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on June 05, 2014, 04:16:53 PM
Quote from: Barthheart on June 05, 2014, 04:15:08 PM
Just checked the Kickstarter page .... they already have 932 backers and have already made the funding goal of $50,000.

I'll be jumping in again.

Wow, that was fast....

I am a little confused on which level is appropriate...I would want the digital PC version of the game and the digital expansion what-if, would that be the $30 level?  Not sure I will do it yet, but wondering.

Yes the $30 level will get you that... I'm waffling between that and the $65 level that will bag me the physical deluxe version as well..... but my gaming budget is a bit under the weather of late..... ::)
Title: Re: Twilight Struggle....its back.
Post by: Grim.Reaper on June 05, 2014, 04:23:29 PM
Quote from: Barthheart on June 05, 2014, 04:19:52 PM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on June 05, 2014, 04:16:53 PM
Quote from: Barthheart on June 05, 2014, 04:15:08 PM
Just checked the Kickstarter page .... they already have 932 backers and have already made the funding goal of $50,000.

I'll be jumping in again.

Wow, that was fast....

I am a little confused on which level is appropriate...I would want the digital PC version of the game and the digital expansion what-if, would that be the $30 level?  Not sure I will do it yet, but wondering.

Yes the $30 level will get you that... I'm waffling between that and the $65 level that will bag me the physical deluxe version as well..... but my gaming budget is a bit under the weather of late..... ::)

Thank you....

So I have never done kick starter...please remind me....if they don't end up delivering the game, do you get your money back?

Title: Re: Twilight Struggle....its back.
Post by: Barthheart on June 05, 2014, 04:25:33 PM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on June 05, 2014, 04:23:29 PM
Quote from: Barthheart on June 05, 2014, 04:19:52 PM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on June 05, 2014, 04:16:53 PM
Quote from: Barthheart on June 05, 2014, 04:15:08 PM
Just checked the Kickstarter page .... they already have 932 backers and have already made the funding goal of $50,000.

I'll be jumping in again.

Wow, that was fast....

I am a little confused on which level is appropriate...I would want the digital PC version of the game and the digital expansion what-if, would that be the $30 level?  Not sure I will do it yet, but wondering.

Yes the $30 level will get you that... I'm waffling between that and the $65 level that will bag me the physical deluxe version as well..... but my gaming budget is a bit under the weather of late..... ::)

Thank you....

So I have never done kick starter...please remind me....if they don't end up delivering the game, do you get your money back?

Nope.

But this is GMT.... they'll deliver.
Title: Re: Twilight Struggle....its back.
Post by: Grim.Reaper on June 05, 2014, 04:26:41 PM
Quote from: Barthheart on June 05, 2014, 04:25:33 PM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on June 05, 2014, 04:23:29 PM
Quote from: Barthheart on June 05, 2014, 04:19:52 PM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on June 05, 2014, 04:16:53 PM
Quote from: Barthheart on June 05, 2014, 04:15:08 PM
Just checked the Kickstarter page .... they already have 932 backers and have already made the funding goal of $50,000.

I'll be jumping in again.

Wow, that was fast....

I am a little confused on which level is appropriate...I would want the digital PC version of the game and the digital expansion what-if, would that be the $30 level?  Not sure I will do it yet, but wondering.

Yes the $30 level will get you that... I'm waffling between that and the $65 level that will bag me the physical deluxe version as well..... but my gaming budget is a bit under the weather of late..... ::)

Thank you....

So I have never done kick starter...please remind me....if they don't end up delivering the game, do you get your money back?

Nope.

But this is GMT.... they'll deliver.

But they didn't deliver their first digital version of this:)

I backed them for that one, but they didn't actually charge my card before they cancelled it....
Title: Re: Twilight Struggle....its back.
Post by: Barthheart on June 05, 2014, 04:46:00 PM
Yeah.... true but Playdek is doing the programming and they have a very good track record of delivering.
Title: Re: Twilight Struggle....its back.
Post by: Grim.Reaper on June 05, 2014, 06:10:50 PM
Quote from: Barthheart on June 05, 2014, 04:46:00 PM
Yeah.... true but Playdek is doing the programming and they have a very good track record of delivering.

I see people mention Playdek, never heard of them before...what computer games have they done?
Title: Re: Twilight Struggle....its back.
Post by: Barthheart on June 05, 2014, 06:50:30 PM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on June 05, 2014, 06:10:50 PM
Quote from: Barthheart on June 05, 2014, 04:46:00 PM
Yeah.... true but Playdek is doing the programming and they have a very good track record of delivering.

I see people mention Playdek, never heard of them before...what computer games have they done?

LOTS of very popular iPad games.
Title: Re: Twilight Struggle....its back.
Post by: jomni on June 05, 2014, 08:14:52 PM
If I want the PC game but do not want the physical game / expansion that comes with it, what option should I support?
Title: Re: Twilight Struggle....its back.
Post by: Barthheart on June 05, 2014, 09:19:22 PM
Quote from: jomni on June 05, 2014, 08:14:52 PM
If I want the PC game but do not want the physical game / expansion that comes with it, what option should I support?

$30 level is the only way to get the PC version without a lot of other add ons.
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Post by: jomni on June 05, 2014, 09:23:13 PM
Yeah that's the thing. It includes some stuff to be shipped which I don't need (at additional cost).
Title: Re: Twilight Struggle....its back.
Post by: Grim.Reaper on June 06, 2014, 04:20:21 AM
Pretty amazing that in less than a day they have doubled what they needed at $108,000, which I am sure will grow.  They added more stretch goals and goodies that now even includes a ps4 version.  I wonder what will be next:)
Title: Re: Twilight Struggle....its back.
Post by: jomni on June 06, 2014, 04:34:41 AM
So ambitious with that amount of money.  :uglystupid2:
100,000 to develop a multiplatform game. I guess GMT is providing additional seed money or they plan to work on the existing code of the unfinished game.
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Post by: Nefaro on June 06, 2014, 04:48:22 AM
Quote from: jomni on June 06, 2014, 04:34:41 AM
So ambitious with that amount of money.  :uglystupid2:

Indeed.

Gotta plan for the worst.
Title: Re: Twilight Struggle....its back.
Post by: Barthheart on June 06, 2014, 08:25:59 AM
Well, they are well over $100k now and it's only day 2 of their campaign. Pretty impressive.  O0

I think though that I won't be backing the KS.... I only want the PC version of the game, well maybe a copy fer my iPad too, and I can't get just that with their current pricing scheme....
So I'll wait until it's released and get eh download only version from their store next spring.

Title: Re: Twilight Struggle....its back.
Post by: Grim.Reaper on June 06, 2014, 05:39:41 PM
still on the fence myself....love to beta test, just not sure I want to invest this early....
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Post by: steve58 on June 06, 2014, 06:04:00 PM
I'm tempted to jump in on this one (again).  They are at $136K with still 27 days to go!
Title: Re: Twilight Struggle....its back.
Post by: jomni on June 06, 2014, 08:54:53 PM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on June 06, 2014, 05:39:41 PM
still on the fence myself....love to beta test, just not sure I want to invest this early....

Yeah might as well wait for the full game.  The freebies aren't really that enticing for me. 
Title: Re: Twilight Struggle....its back.
Post by: Grim.Reaper on June 07, 2014, 10:35:01 AM
They are now at $148,000...pretty good effort...they also introduced a digital level for $25....now is has me rethinking my decision to hold off:)

Pledge $25 or more
***Digital PC Tier*** Digital copy of Twilight Struggle, expansion, promo pack, and the Kickstarter-Exclusive alternate in-game map for PC, Mac, or Linux. (NOTE: This tier and its rewards ONLY APPLY AT THIS LEVEL and are not included in another other tier)
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Post by: tgb on June 07, 2014, 11:29:25 AM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on June 07, 2014, 10:35:01 AM
They are now at $148,000...pretty good effort...they also introduced a digital level for $25....now is has me rethinking my decision to hold off:)

Pledge $25 or more
***Digital PC Tier*** Digital copy of Twilight Struggle, expansion, promo pack, and the Kickstarter-Exclusive alternate in-game map for PC, Mac, or Linux. (NOTE: This tier and its rewards ONLY APPLY AT THIS LEVEL and are not included in another other tier)

Is that Beta access?
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Post by: Grim.Reaper on June 07, 2014, 11:32:04 AM
Quote from: tgb on June 07, 2014, 11:29:25 AM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on June 07, 2014, 10:35:01 AM
They are now at $148,000...pretty good effort...they also introduced a digital level for $25....now is has me rethinking my decision to hold off:)

Pledge $25 or more
***Digital PC Tier*** Digital copy of Twilight Struggle, expansion, promo pack, and the Kickstarter-Exclusive alternate in-game map for PC, Mac, or Linux. (NOTE: This tier and its rewards ONLY APPLY AT THIS LEVEL and are not included in another other tier)

Is that Beta access?

I am assuming not since the $30 specifically mentions beta access...but not 100% sure, just my guess.
Title: Re: Twilight Struggle....its back.
Post by: Barthheart on June 07, 2014, 03:16:31 PM
Hmmm..... Fer $25 for the PC version and the digital goodies I might be back in as well....... :uglystupid2:
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Post by: undercovergeek on June 07, 2014, 04:13:56 PM
For an extra 5 dollah you can beta
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Post by: bayonetbrant on June 07, 2014, 04:49:05 PM
yes, but is it really any beta than the $25 version?
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Post by: tgb on June 07, 2014, 05:28:02 PM
Is Beta available yet?
Title: Re: Twilight Struggle....its back.
Post by: Grim.Reaper on June 07, 2014, 05:31:52 PM
Quote from: tgb on June 07, 2014, 05:28:02 PM
Is Beta available yet?

Pretty sure development hasn't started yet.
Title: Re: Twilight Struggle....its back.
Post by: Barthheart on June 07, 2014, 06:03:04 PM
Beta is not ready yet. I can wait fer the game.... I waited this long....
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Post by: JasonPratt on June 08, 2014, 09:01:03 AM
I went for the PC $25 pack. GMT + Playdek for the win!
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Post by: Arctic Blast on June 09, 2014, 02:07:25 PM
And let the Kickstarting continue! I'm definitely in for this one.
Title: Re: Twilight Struggle....its back.
Post by: Grim.Reaper on June 22, 2014, 07:00:46 AM
At $247,000 with additional stretch goals added....I am still struggling to make my decision whether to jump in or not......only 11 days left.
Title: Re: Twilight Struggle....its back.
Post by: JasonPratt on June 23, 2014, 01:01:43 PM
No lie, I want that collector's edition physical board version bad. But I'd probably have no one to play it with, soooo I guess I'll stick with the electronic version.
Title: Re: Twilight Struggle....its back.
Post by: Grim.Reaper on June 28, 2014, 05:47:19 AM
Well five days to go, sitting at $287k and continues to hit stretch goal after stretch goal...the $300k goal looks nice where it adds tutorials and more single player scenarios.....

I likely will jump in, especially if it hits the $300k since it serves my single player needs:)

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Post by: Staggerwing on June 28, 2014, 07:44:06 AM
Realistically, how much can they ask for the game on iOS or Android after general release? I'm eyeing the $15 tier but wonder if it will eventually sell for less.
Title: Re: Twilight Struggle....its back.
Post by: Grim.Reaper on June 28, 2014, 08:02:24 AM
Quote from: Staggerwing on June 28, 2014, 07:44:06 AM
Realistically, how much can they ask for the game on iOS or Android after general release? I'm eyeing the $15 tier but wonder if it will eventually sell for less.

My main motivation for joining now is more about being part of the beta process to get hands on sooner:)  Otherwise, I would just wait..just impatient:)
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Post by: Grim.Reaper on July 01, 2014, 07:31:59 PM
47 hours to go...they just continue hitting more stretch goals...currently at $328,000, possibly one more goal to go


Running out of time to jump in....

https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/559431060/twilight-struggle-digital-edition
Title: Re: Twilight Struggle....its back.
Post by: Grim.Reaper on July 03, 2014, 07:58:36 AM
With only 11 hours to go, finally pulled the trigger...I just went with the $30 version so I could get the PC game and beta access...they seemed to have added a lot of stuff along the way as they reached goals, so decided, what the heck...
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Post by: James Sterrett on July 03, 2014, 01:07:14 PM
What keeps stopping me is the apparent absence of a single player mode other than the set-piece scenarios.
Title: Re: Twilight Struggle....its back.
Post by: Grim.Reaper on July 03, 2014, 01:57:34 PM
Quote from: James Sterrett on July 03, 2014, 01:07:14 PM
What keeps stopping me is the apparent absence of a single player mode other than the set-piece scenarios.

Can you explain that too me?  I am not familiar with the board game or what you mean by this statement.  I only play single player so I assumed it would be like any other single player game out there with an AI to play against.  Was this a wrong assumption?
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Post by: tgb on July 03, 2014, 02:39:58 PM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on July 03, 2014, 01:57:34 PM
Quote from: James Sterrett on July 03, 2014, 01:07:14 PM
What keeps stopping me is the apparent absence of a single player mode other than the set-piece scenarios.

Can you explain that too me?  I am not familiar with the board game or what you mean by this statement.  I only play single player so I assumed it would be like any other single player game out there with an AI to play against.  Was this a wrong assumption?

I would like to know about that as well.
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Post by: James Sterrett on July 03, 2014, 03:48:40 PM
I don't know if you're wrong or not in assuming there will be a single-player AI.  But these two things give me pause:

1)  Stretch Goal:  "Single Player Scenarios will place you in the game at a set point with specific cards in your hand, and you will need to finish the game from this starting point. It will test your strategy and skill level as a player."

2)  The focus in the higher tiers of giving away (timespan) of "free online tournament entries (up to 10 entries per month)".

I could be completely wrong.  There could well be an AI for the full campaign in single player.  But something about that combination strikes me as odd, so I have not invested in this Kickstarter.
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Post by: Grim.Reaper on July 03, 2014, 04:00:33 PM
A qa session with the developer, seems to mention ai quite a bit...not sure in which way it will be implemented, but they seem to be committed.

http://www.reddit.com/r/boardgames/comments/282mxm/i_am_gary_weis_playdeks_cto_and_a_key_developer/
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Post by: Nefaro on July 03, 2014, 04:19:36 PM
AFAIK, there will be an AI for the full game.

The scenario stretch goals are just set-piece starts based on a historical situation.  They're just extras.
Title: Re: Twilight Struggle....its back.
Post by: Grim.Reaper on July 03, 2014, 05:16:19 PM
104 minutes left to go......$16,000 left to the final stretch goal of $400,000....time to get your credit card out:)

Personally, not a big deal since not interested in what is being made available at the final tier:)
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Post by: Grim.Reaper on July 03, 2014, 07:00:34 PM
Well, it's over...didn't make the final $400k stretch goal but pretty impressive it ended with $391k when they only asked for $50k to start.
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Post by: Nefaro on July 03, 2014, 07:22:52 PM
I'm just glad it reached the base goal.  I didn't back it, but I'll buy it when it's near completion.
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Post by: JasonPratt on July 04, 2014, 01:18:11 PM
The devs sent out an adorable thank-you letter where they talk about having completed the "Funding Phase" and are now in the "Gratitude Phase" before going into the "Fulfillment Phase".  :)
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Post by: jomni on December 12, 2014, 12:37:37 AM
A detailed update.
http://www.insidegmt.com/?p=1050
Title: Re: Twilight Struggle....its back.
Post by: GDS_Starfury on December 12, 2014, 12:43:40 AM
thats some necromancy.
Title: Re: Twilight Struggle....its back.
Post by: Nefaro on December 12, 2014, 01:37:55 AM
We wantssss it.