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Title: Steel Beasts Pro 64 bit Beta Out
Post by: Asid on June 26, 2014, 10:32:42 AM
Hi

There is a new Beta for Steel Beasts Pro 3.019. get it here http://www.esimgames.com/?p=1714 (http://www.esimgames.com/?p=1714)

Release notes here http://www.esimgames.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/SBProPE-3.019-X64-Readme.pdf (http://www.esimgames.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/06/SBProPE-3.019-X64-Readme.pdf)

"eSim Games has developed a 64 bit Steel Beasts version featuring a new network stack."

Regards
Title: Re: Steel Beasts Pro 64 bit Beta Out
Post by: Yskonyn on June 26, 2014, 11:24:24 AM
I find the beta procedure a tad bit cumbersome, so I will wait for the official release instead. Thanks for the pointer though!
Title: Re: Steel Beasts Pro 64 bit Beta Out
Post by: Grim.Reaper on June 26, 2014, 11:25:00 AM
Assuming this is free for existing owners?
Title: Re: Steel Beasts Pro 64 bit Beta Out
Post by: Asid on June 26, 2014, 11:31:36 AM
Quote from: Yskonyn on June 26, 2014, 11:24:24 AM
I find the beta procedure a tad bit cumbersome, so I will wait for the official release instead. Thanks for the pointer though!

It is straightforward and only takes a minute. Let me know if you need any assistance :)

Regards
Title: Re: Steel Beasts Pro 64 bit Beta Out
Post by: Asid on June 26, 2014, 11:32:32 AM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on June 26, 2014, 11:25:00 AM
Assuming this is free for existing owners?

Yes if you have version 3.0X

:)
Title: Re: Steel Beasts Pro 64 bit Beta Out
Post by: Jarhead0331 on June 26, 2014, 12:01:15 PM
Whats the purpose though? Seems to only be a server/MP issue. If all I play is SP, will this make a difference?
Title: Re: Steel Beasts Pro 64 bit Beta Out
Post by: RyanE on June 26, 2014, 12:01:54 PM
Its not that easy.  The beta is timed and will shutdown after a few weeks to a month if it follows the last beta.  The readme says it only makes changes to MP, not SP.  So I am still awaiting an answer from eSims if its worth the effort for SP focused players.
Title: Re: Steel Beasts Pro 64 bit Beta Out
Post by: Asid on June 26, 2014, 12:04:15 PM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on June 26, 2014, 12:01:15 PM
Whats the purpose though? Seems to only be a server/MP issue. If all I play is SP, will this make a difference?

I have linked to the release PDF in my original post and there are some useful bug fixes. Also people are reporting "smoother" play. 64 bit will help in certain maps.

Regards
Title: Re: Steel Beasts Pro 64 bit Beta Out
Post by: JC______ on June 26, 2014, 01:03:20 PM
Yeah, I'm not patching my copy until the official patch is out.

Title: Re: Steel Beasts Pro 64 bit Beta Out
Post by: Asid on June 26, 2014, 01:06:02 PM
Quote from: JC______ on June 26, 2014, 01:03:20 PM
Yeah, I'm not patching my copy until the official patch is out.

Any particular reason why?

Regards
Title: Re: Steel Beasts Pro 64 bit Beta Out
Post by: JC______ on June 26, 2014, 01:28:47 PM
In all honesty Asid, I'm not willing to worry about loosing any single day of my $100+ simulation toy because at 0130 in the morning I miss-read some tiny instruction somewhere.

Also, I play multiplayer with just a couple of guys who are not patching either.

Cheers,
Title: Re: Steel Beasts Pro 64 bit Beta Out
Post by: Asid on June 26, 2014, 02:00:43 PM
Quote from: JC______ on June 26, 2014, 01:28:47 PM
In all honesty Asid, I'm not willing to worry about loosing any single day of my $100+ simulation toy because at 0130 in the morning I miss-read some tiny instruction somewhere.

Also, I play multiplayer with just a couple of guys who are not patching either.

Cheers,

Hi JC

I understand, however the new network stack in this release is beneficial for multi-player as is the speed increase of downloading missions while in multi-player. Also there are bug fixes such as infantry routing over a bridge and a fix for vehicles if they stuck in a building.

The choice is yours my friend :)

Regards
Title: Re: Steel Beasts Pro 64 bit Beta Out
Post by: JC______ on June 26, 2014, 02:10:03 PM
Kudos for the infantry formation change while moving through bridges. That one is driving me insane in a custom-made scenario.

Cheers,
Title: Re: Steel Beasts Pro 64 bit Beta Out
Post by: Asid on June 26, 2014, 02:14:08 PM
Quote from: JC______ on June 26, 2014, 02:10:03 PM
Kudos for the infantry formation change while moving through bridges. That one is driving me insane in a custom-made scenario.

Cheers,

I hear ya  ;D
Title: Re: Steel Beasts Pro 64 bit Beta Out
Post by: RyanE on June 26, 2014, 02:25:45 PM
Quote from: Asid on June 26, 2014, 12:04:15 PM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on June 26, 2014, 12:01:15 PM
Whats the purpose though? Seems to only be a server/MP issue. If all I play is SP, will this make a difference?

I have linked to the release PDF in my original post and there are some useful bug fixes. Also people are reporting "smoother" play. 64 bit will help in certain maps.

Regards

I think eSim already stated that you won't see any performance increase from this patch.  It appears that the 64 OS will allow larger scenarios to play, but that is about it.
Title: Re: Steel Beasts Pro 64 bit Beta Out
Post by: RyanE on June 26, 2014, 02:27:20 PM
I would upgrade without question except the timed shut down.  The 3.017 patch created a little havoc for me.  Still not sure on the reasons why its timed to shut down.
Title: Re: Steel Beasts Pro 64 bit Beta Out
Post by: Asid on June 26, 2014, 02:31:46 PM
Hi Ryan.

This Beta is set to run until end of December 2014. After that you just start the sim with the original executable (3.011).

If you look at the release notes you will see some welcome bug fixes and the ability to download a mission while in multi-player at an increased speed. These are performance increases in my book :). However you will not see a big jump in FPS (if any) or any added eye candy.

Again you make your choice :)

Regards


If anyone wants to have a MP session of SB let me know :)
Title: Re: Steel Beasts Pro 64 bit Beta Out
Post by: jomni on June 26, 2014, 05:32:28 PM
Quote from: Jarhead0331 on June 26, 2014, 12:01:15 PM
Whats the purpose though? Seems to only be a server/MP issue. If all I play is SP, will this make a difference?

In a nutshell 64bit will make the software be able to use more memory. 

FSX, since it is 32bit, cannot load a lot of stuff at the same time and has a tendency to crash with today's complex add ons.
X-Plane is 64 bit and it can load a lot of objects on the map without affecting performance. 

So I guess it will just help scenario makers make scenarios larger than what we are used to seeing now.
Title: Re: Steel Beasts Pro 64 bit Beta Out
Post by: Grim.Reaper on June 26, 2014, 06:01:41 PM
Quote from: Asid on June 26, 2014, 02:31:46 PM
Hi Ryan.

This Beta is set to run until end of December 2014. After that you just start the sim with the original executable (3.011).

If you look at the release notes you will see some welcome bug fixes and the ability to download a mission while in multi-player at an increased speed. These are performance increases in my book :). However you will not see a big jump in FPS (if any) or any added eye candy.

Again you make your choice :)

Regards


If anyone wants to have a MP session of SB let me know :)

That is a long beta for something that doesn't appear to add a lot of major features....maybe a lot of its guts replaced behind the scenes......
Title: Re: Steel Beasts Pro 64 bit Beta Out
Post by: Asid on June 26, 2014, 06:14:05 PM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on June 26, 2014, 06:01:41 PM

That is a long beta for something that doesn't appear to add a lot of major features....maybe a lot of its guts replaced behind the scenes......

The beta license still uses the same "container" method as the other Steel Beasts licenses. The length gives greater flexibility and time for the developers to add/fix issues. When the time expires then you revert back to your original "full" license.

Regards
Title: Re: Steel Beasts Pro 64 bit Beta Out
Post by: RyanE on June 26, 2014, 07:43:00 PM
Two bugs I am a little disappointed that don't seem to be prioritized are the ability for AI to see at night in all conditions and AI tank gunnery being fubared.  I would upgrade in a second if those were fixed.  It makes it difficult to have a any type of combat simulation.  Again, the fixes seem heavily skewed to MP play.  Not going to waste effort for SP....eSims's own recommendation.
Title: Re: Steel Beasts Pro 64 bit Beta Out
Post by: Yskonyn on June 27, 2014, 03:25:53 AM
Aha! So they expect this beta to last that long eh? Perhaps it might be a good thing to install it then. I can take a bit of hassle if it means getting current until the end of the year.

As for MP; I would LOVE to get into SB multiplayer, but a) I cannot commit to fixed days (making the friday night brawls difficult) and b) most times I am on, there is noone else to be found on the official TS.
Title: Re: Steel Beasts Pro 64 bit Beta Out
Post by: Asid on June 27, 2014, 06:11:14 AM
Quote from: Yskonyn on June 27, 2014, 03:25:53 AM

As for MP; I would LOVE to get into SB multiplayer, but a) I cannot commit to fixed days (making the friday night brawls difficult) and b) most times I am on, there is noone else to be found on the official TS.

My username in SB and on TeamSpeak is "Asid".

The official Steel Beasts TeamSpeak is:

Steelbeasts.com Teamspeak Server 2
Address: 216.22.24.158
Port: 9987

What is your username on TS?. Let me know when you will be on :)

Regards
Title: Re: Steel Beasts Pro 64 bit Beta Out
Post by: smithcorp on June 27, 2014, 06:59:03 AM
Quote from: Yskonyn on June 27, 2014, 03:25:53 AM
Aha! So they expect this beta to last that long eh? Perhaps it might be a good thing to install it then. I can take a bit of hassle if it means getting current until the end of the year.

As for MP; I would LOVE to get into SB multiplayer, but a) I cannot commit to fixed days (making the friday night brawls difficult) and b) most times I am on, there is noone else to be found on the official TS.

Very little hassle Yassy. You get a separate exe shortcut on your desktop which you can delete when the beta is over, or they move to a later beta. You can continue to use the original 3.011 shortcut at any time.
Title: Re: Steel Beasts Pro 64 bit Beta Out
Post by: JC______ on June 27, 2014, 08:22:33 AM
Is it true that you can choose between 3.011 or 3.019 even with 3.019 "installed"?



Title: Re: Steel Beasts Pro 64 bit Beta Out
Post by: Asid on June 27, 2014, 08:26:44 AM
Quote from: JC______ on June 27, 2014, 08:22:33 AM
Is it true that you can choose between 3.011 or 3.019 even with 3.019 "installed"?

Yes because the original 3.011 exe is not touched. You can play a game in 3.011 by running the 3.011 exe or the 3.019 beta by choosing that exe. The choice is yours :)

Regards
Title: Re: Steel Beasts Pro 64 bit Beta Out
Post by: JC______ on June 27, 2014, 08:28:34 AM
Thanks, Asid.

Title: Re: Steel Beasts Pro 64 bit Beta Out
Post by: Asid on June 27, 2014, 08:30:00 AM
Quote from: JC______ on June 27, 2014, 08:28:34 AM
Thanks, Asid.

It's a pleasure JC :)

If anyone has some time i am on TS now and will be for a while :)  if only to chat.

Regards