OK, bets on who shoots it down first?
Or will it blow up in launch phase like all the others?
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/04/12/north-korea-reportedly-launches-rocket/
Wish I could find out what the name of it is so I could poke fun at it. Taepodong was just too much fun to ridicule.
Whoops. Reports are now emerging that the test may have failed.
You may imagine me wearing my shocked face.
QuoteIt is unclear at this time if the launch was successful. U.S. officials tell Fox News that early indications signal the launch may have failed.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/04/12/north-korea-reportedly-launches-rocket/#ixzz1rs78GThq
Oh noooos! Guess they should steal their technology from the Chinese, who of course got it from us. :P
I was really hoping the Japanese would get the chance to knock it down with one of their Aegis destroyers, but I guess NK would have to successfully launch it first.
Quote from: mirth on April 12, 2012, 06:44:32 PM
I was really hoping the Japanese would get the chance to knock it down with one of their Aegis destroyers, but I guess NK would have to successfully launch it first.
I was hoping Godzilla would rise from the depths and snatch it in his mouth.
But that is probably asking for too much coolness.
Yeah, I forgot he was in charge of defending the home islands.
They really should name their next class of ships the Godzilla-class. That would be coolness.
I too was looking forward to a Japanese muscle-flexing. But not too much, you know.
Quote from: Gusington on April 12, 2012, 07:31:02 PM
I too was looking forward to a Japanese muscle-flexing. But not too much, you know.
That's right. Remember they killed Danny.
Yeah there's Danny to think about. Not to mention Nanking, Nagasaki, Hiroshima, Fat Man, Little Boy, Unit 731 and world history from 1870-1945.
Quote from: Gusington on April 12, 2012, 07:49:06 PM
Yeah there's Danny to think about. Not to mention Nanking, Nagasaki, Hiroshima, Fat Man, Little Boy, Unit 731 and world history from 1870-1945.
Yeah but Danny comes first.
Yeah I guess he does.
Back to the actual topic, I'm sure that in NK they're celebrating the successful launch of their 'communication satellite'.
The US shot it down with this. It's not really cancelled, it just went black.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_YAL-1 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_YAL-1)
Quote from: Gusington on April 12, 2012, 07:49:06 PM
Yeah there's Danny to think about. Not to mention Nanking, Nagasaki, Hiroshima, Fat Man, Little Boy, Unit 731 and world history from 1870-1945.
Don't forget...they also unleashed
Hello Kitty on an unsuspecting world.
Quote from: OJsDad on April 12, 2012, 08:15:21 PM
The US shot it down with this. It's not really cancelled, it just went black.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_YAL-1 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_YAL-1)
Okay. That would be cool.
Jeez I forgot all about Hello Kitty. Talk about crimes against humanity.
Quote from: Gusington on April 12, 2012, 07:49:06 PM
Yeah there's Danny to think about. Not to mention Nanking, Nagasaki, Hiroshima, Fat Man, Little Boy, Unit 731 and world history from 1870-1945.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V8lT1o0sDwI
Quote from: OJsDad on April 12, 2012, 08:15:21 PM
The US shot it down with this. It's not really cancelled, it just went black.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_YAL-1 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_YAL-1)
I'd be OK if we named that class of plane "Godzilla."
Quote from: LongBlade on April 12, 2012, 09:05:11 PM
Quote from: OJsDad on April 12, 2012, 08:15:21 PM
The US shot it down with this. It's not really cancelled, it just went black.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_YAL-1 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_YAL-1)
I'd be OK if we named that class of plane "Godzilla."
Don't you think '
Rodan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodan)' would be more apropos?
Quote from: Staggerwing on April 12, 2012, 09:07:31 PM
Quote from: LongBlade on April 12, 2012, 09:05:11 PM
Quote from: OJsDad on April 12, 2012, 08:15:21 PM
The US shot it down with this. It's not really cancelled, it just went black.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_YAL-1 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_YAL-1)
I'd be OK if we named that class of plane "Godzilla."
Don't you think 'Rodan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rodan)' would be more apropos?
Good suggestion, but I have reservations. From your wiki link:
QuoteHe is occasionally portrayed as a rival and enemy of Godzilla, but is usually depicted as one of Godzilla's allies...
You know, failing a nuclear missile test can be fairly serious. Unless, of course, you don't have fissile material and only tell people you do while stuffing the warhead with:
1. Kim Chi
2. Kim Jong Il
3. Kim Cattral
Or other materials.
Quote from: Staggerwing link=topic=1056.msg20083#msg20083 date=1334279769
Don't forget...they also unleashedi]Hello Kitty[/i] on an unsuspecting world.
For that alone, they don't belong in the ranks of civilized men.....
no need to dust off that Beoing ;) ...but it was a good idea that 'someone' exchanged the little package in the mail containing the batch of small o-ring-seals used on fuel pump valve#13 of that missile
(and THX to the engineer who designed the replacement, that it only breaks under pressure and heavy vibration and never inside NKs pre-install lab-test envelope :P )
They still have nodong.
Dongless?
Cant get it up?
Game over?
Out of time?
Lil Kim's belly flop?
Quote from: mirth on April 12, 2012, 07:23:57 PM
They really should name their next class of ships the Godzilla-class. That would be coolness.
That will be the name of their first 21st century carrier.
Quote from: Mr. Bigglesworth on April 13, 2012, 01:43:15 AM
Dongless?
Cant get it up?
Game over?
Out of time?
Lil Kim's belly flop?
No Zupe Fo Yu?
Bravo!
Looks like I might have been right: no soup for the Norks is what they're going to get.
QuoteThe U.S. will not go forward with planned food aid for North Korea after the nation's unsuccessful attempt to launch a long-range missile rocket, the White House said.
"Despite the failure of its attempted missile launch, North Korea's provocative action threatens regional security, violates international law and contravenes its own recent commitments," the White House said in a statement condemning the launch.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/04/13/worth-it-failed-launch-costs-north-korea-food-aid/
All I could think of when I saw this last night was the poor techs and engineer's who're gonna against the wall for the national failure in front of the world..... but maybe one of them was a hero and did it on purpose.
After losing face they will probably throw another nuke down the well in hopes it will rattle some teeth and jangle some nerves.
Quote from: Staggerwing on April 13, 2012, 01:12:32 PM
After losing face they will probably throw another nuke down the well in hopes it will rattle some teeth and jangle some nerves.
Why the Chinese coddle those fools is beyond my imagination.
Quote from: LongBlade on April 13, 2012, 01:58:36 PM
Quote from: Staggerwing on April 13, 2012, 01:12:32 PM
After losing face they will probably throw another nuke down the well in hopes it will rattle some teeth and jangle some nerves.
Why the Chinese coddle those fools is beyond my imagination.
Yeah that makes no sense to me either. The Chinese are already taking over the world with capitalism they don't need the dsitraction of a wingnut on their door step.....
The Chinese use the Norks as their flying monkey to rattle the cages of the regional powers whenever the need arises.
NAH!
The missile launch was only window dressing. It was the teaser for the real event.
The two bronze, 50 foot statues of the founding Kim, and Kim Jong Il, his son. (Who also grew by at least twenty percent to have his statue as big as his dad's.)
Quote from: LongBlade on April 13, 2012, 01:58:36 PM
Why the Chinese coddle those fools is beyond my imagination.
last eve i saw an interview with Japans former secretary of defense (so a guy who should know)
He said: China simply don't like a German style reunification of Korea with close US ties and further boost in Korean economic strength
(can you imagine if both Korea's could redirect all the effort and manpower that goes now into military then into semiconductors, latest electronics, and so on. plus the economic growth that would come from rebuilding North Korea to southkorean 21st century standards.)
Quote from: MikeGER on April 14, 2012, 12:46:39 AM
Quote from: LongBlade on April 13, 2012, 01:58:36 PM
Why the Chinese coddle those fools is beyond my imagination.
last eve i saw an interview with Japans former secretary of defense (so a guy who should know)
He said: China simply don't like a German style reunification of Korea with close US ties and further boost in Korean economic strength
(can you imagine if both Korea's could redirect all the effort and manpower that goes now into military then into semiconductors, latest electronics, and so on. plus the economic growth that would come from rebuilding North Korea to southkorean 21st century standards.)
Hmmm.
Interesting theory.
From the little I've read, the South Koreans aren't interested in a German style of unification, either. They saw the cost and length of time it took for Germany to recover and have decided that isn't an experience they want to try.
Quote from: LongBlade on April 14, 2012, 09:21:28 AM
They saw the cost and length of time it took for Germany to recover and have decided that isn't an experience they want to try.
we made some tremendous faults while in the process of reunification
..out of sentiments, and not to tell (and let feel) the EastGermans the ugly truth, that their lifetime savings were 'almost worthless' / all wealth systematically robbed by their Ruski communist brothers
so the money was exchanged 1:2 where 1:10 was the real exchange value
also we had to bribe the Ivans with 4 Billion DM for 'troop relocation costs' and for example let them slip away with no cleanup responsibility for the environmental damage the troops did to the landscape where they were stationed (decades with 'who cares anyway'-spills of all kind of chemicals and hazard waste other dangerous leftovers which has to be cleaned to 'EU standard' )
and a lot of more complicated
economy details too
The Koreans as Asians naturally have not sooo much of 'sentiments' for northeren cousin to take into calculation
they would just
annex North Korea and the ppl there would be more then glad to have freedom and as much rice+cabbage all.you.can.eat dishes each day.
So it would be much cheeper and faster for them then we did here
Good points, Mike, but I fear for the mental costs.
I was watching TV last night and they were discussing the Norks. If someone commits a crime there they punish three generations for the crime. I don't even think the Stasi left scars that deep.
So they would lay waste to the families of the rocket scientists? Stuff them down the nuke tunnel?
Commentary on a soccer match from this morning's highlights:
"The range on that ball would make it the envy of the North Korean space program."
Quote from: bayonetbrant on April 16, 2012, 09:07:27 AM
Commentary on a soccer match from this morning's highlights:
"The range on that ball would make it the envy of the North Korean space program."
;D
Quote from: bayonetbrant on April 16, 2012, 09:07:27 AM
Commentary on a soccer match from this morning's highlights:
"The range on that ball would make it the envy of the North Korean space program."
Nice.
Quote from: bayonetbrant on April 16, 2012, 09:07:27 AM
Commentary on a soccer match from this morning's highlights:
"The range on that ball would make it the envy of the North Korean space program."
Driving the point further home:
QuoteA half dozen ominous new North Korean missiles showcased at a lavish military parade were clumsy fakes, analysts say, casting more doubt on the country's claims of military prowess after its recent rocket launch failure.
The weapons displayed April 15 appear to be a mishmash of liquid-fuel and solid-fuel components that could never fly together. Undulating casings on the missiles suggest the metal is too thin to withstand flight. Each missile was slightly different from the others, even though all were supposedly the same make. They don't even fit the launchers they were carried on.
Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/04/26/analysts-say-north-korea-new-missiles-displayed-at-parade-are-fakes
Does that really matter to South Korea though? The North still has enough conventional artillery and rockets to destroy Seoul over and over and over.
Quote from: Gusington on April 26, 2012, 09:11:05 AM
Does that really matter to South Korea though? The North still has enough conventional artillery and rockets to destroy Seoul over and over and over.
I'll be the Sorks can give them a pounding they'll not soon forget. They have money and the US as an ally, and we have all the best toys for a set piece battle. Which means the Sorks do if they want them. If the Norks really let loose, I suspect the counter battery fire would demolish them in fairly short order.
Smoke 'n mirrors for the Home Team bleachers.
Quote from: LongBlade on April 13, 2012, 01:58:36 PM
Quote from: Staggerwing on April 13, 2012, 01:12:32 PM
After losing face they will probably throw another nuke down the well in hopes it will rattle some teeth and jangle some nerves.
Why the Chinese coddle those fools is beyond my imagination.
They keep them as a distraction to the Americans ..... they point with their right hand - "look what those guys are doing " and with their left hand they...???
http://www.economist.com/blogs/banyan/2012/04/north-koreas-sense-timing (http://www.economist.com/blogs/banyan/2012/04/north-koreas-sense-timing)