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Title: Dramatic runway near-miss at Barcelona airport
Post by: steve58 on July 07, 2014, 03:33:01 PM
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/aviation/10950708/Planes-almost-collide-in-dramatic-runway-near-miss-at-Barcelona-airport.html

Kudos to the Russian pilot for averting what could have been a disaster.  Looks like the Argentinian pilot was paying more attention to the World Cup than to his plane/passengers  :(

Title: Re: Dramatic runway near-miss at Barcelona airport
Post by: BanzaiCat on July 07, 2014, 05:00:54 PM
Holy crap, that was a Tenerife airport disaster sequel waiting to happen.
Title: Re: Dramatic runway near-miss at Barcelona airport
Post by: GDS_Starfury on July 07, 2014, 06:06:23 PM
that looks more like tower error then pilot error.  planes can only go where directed on the ground right?
Title: Re: Dramatic runway near-miss at Barcelona airport
Post by: Staggerwing on July 07, 2014, 06:21:11 PM
When that russian pilot slammed the throttles forward he must have had images of catastrophic engine failure...

... until he remembered- "ah, not Kusnetsov but Pratt & Whitney... :)".




;D
Title: Re: Dramatic runway near-miss at Barcelona airport
Post by: steve58 on July 07, 2014, 06:51:03 PM
Quote from: GDS_Starfury on July 07, 2014, 06:06:23 PM
that looks more like tower error then pilot error.  planes can only go where directed on the ground right?

...true, assuming neither the pilot/co-pilot or tower made a mistake  :)
Title: Re: Dramatic runway near-miss at Barcelona airport
Post by: Staggerwing on July 07, 2014, 06:56:36 PM
I imagine it's still expected that the pilot or copilot looks out the effing windows in the direction of any potential approaching traffic when crossing a runway in operation, you know, 'just in case'?
Title: Re: Dramatic runway near-miss at Barcelona airport
Post by: W8taminute on July 07, 2014, 07:02:58 PM
Regardless of what the root cause for this near miss was I agree, kudos to the pilot who aborted the landing and circled around for another try.


I guess the guy in the watchtower picked a bad week to stop sniffing glue. 
Title: Re: Dramatic runway near-miss at Barcelona airport
Post by: GDS_Starfury on July 07, 2014, 07:12:38 PM
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Title: Re: Dramatic runway near-miss at Barcelona airport
Post by: Staggerwing on July 07, 2014, 07:15:28 PM
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Title: Re: Dramatic runway near-miss at Barcelona airport
Post by: GDS_Starfury on July 07, 2014, 07:30:29 PM
wow !  youve never seen that?
he plays a stressed out air traffic controller.
Title: Re: Dramatic runway near-miss at Barcelona airport
Post by: Staggerwing on July 07, 2014, 07:45:57 PM
Quote from: GDS_Starfury on July 07, 2014, 07:30:29 PM
wow !  youve never seen that?
he plays a stressed out air traffic controller.

If Dabney coleman is also in it then I've seen it, I just don't remember much else. Beer was most likely to blame.
Title: Re: Dramatic runway near-miss at Barcelona airport
Post by: Mr. Bigglesworth on July 07, 2014, 11:30:36 PM
Quote from: GDS_Starfury on July 07, 2014, 06:06:23 PM
that looks more like tower error then pilot error.  planes can only go where directed on the ground right?

I cannot recall ever having my plane go out onto the runway directly. It has always been go out to the end approach then wait for clearance. Then the pilot takes it around the corner. Then a short stop. Then he guns it for takeoff. The guy is behaving like a taxi driver.
Title: Re: Dramatic runway near-miss at Barcelona airport
Post by: Yskonyn on July 18, 2014, 12:35:41 AM
While this was certainly an error its not that pilots are just marrionets of ATC.
The end responsibility is always with the captain of a aircraft.

Assuming here that the aircraft going around did not already report this of doing so prior to the other one lining up on the runway (we have no audio of Comms), the guys in the lining up aircraft should indeed have looked out the effing window before moving onto the runway.
Then they should have queried ATC.

ATC seems to have made a grave error on their turn.

As for the aircraft going around; that's a normal procedure every pilot is well trained for and not considered a non-normal situation in terms of gravity of situation.
I suspect the angle of the camera might make the aircraft appear much closer to the other one than it actually was .

Still it doesn't change the fact this was an undesireable situation any way you look at it. Good decisive action of at least one crew made the day.
Title: Re: Dramatic runway near-miss at Barcelona airport
Post by: Yskonyn on July 18, 2014, 12:37:15 AM
BTW I always hate it when report talk about 'the pilot'. Modern airline Operations are conducted in a multi-pilot environment as a 'crew'.