As in, I vape. (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vaping)
These are miraculous little devices. I was introduced to them last Christmas while staying with family. As soon as I got home I started buying my own kit and haven't had a single cigarette ever since. Not one. People have congratulated me for giving up smoking, but I don't deserve any praise, because vaping makes it incredibly easy; almost cheating. I'm still getting the nicotine, and obviously an e-cig provides a far more realistic smoking action than any other kind of cessation device. You even exhale clouds of vapour.
Like most people new to e-cigs, I started with a "cig-a-like" bought from a shop around the corner. These things are absolute rubbish, and frankly if they are all that were available I'd be smoking again by now. But after doing some research on the net and joining an extremely helpful community, I started experimenting with next-gen kits. The market is enormous. There's an utterly bewildering array of hardware available - indeed, it's as much a hobby as a cessation device to many people - and literally thousands of different e-juices available too. You still have your tobacco flavours for those new to it or those who somehow prefer the taste of tobacco, but besides that there are fruit flavours, mint flavours, foods, drinks, you name it. I'll never get around to sampling even half of them.
So I get all the satisfaction but it's a million times less unhealthy than smoking. And one of the best things is that I can vape indoors! JOY! No more standing outside in the pissing rain to smoke. :)
Any other vapers here?
I should. I really need to quit smoking. my brother and his wife are about 5 or 6 months into it and theyre doing well with it.
Quote from: GDS_Starfury on July 11, 2014, 04:08:54 PM
I should. I really need to quit smoking. my brother and his wife are about 5 or 6 months into it and theyre doing well with it.
Get them to give you some starter kit to try, and please do feel free to ask me any questions you may have. I hope you didn't miss the part where I said I hadn't smoked a single cigarette in seven months! ;) It really is that good. I don't miss cigarettes at all - after all, it isn't the tobacco we're addicted to, it's the nicotine.
After years of having to go outside every time I wanted to smoke, I can't tell you the utter joy of sitting on a sofa with my lady and watching a film from beginning to end without a single interruption, vaping whenever I wanted to. If I believed in a god I would get down on my knees every night and thank him for e-cigs.
I'd been in the hospital a few days awaiting surgery and hadn't had a cigarette nor wanted one in all that time. I didn't use patches or any other aids--I just quit cold turkey.
The surgeon reinforced my decision to quit when he told me, "If you don't quit smoking I'm going to have to amputate both of your legs."
That was in 1996. I haven't smoked since.
I'm 17 days into cold turkey. Don't miss it a bit. Quit for three years and relapsed last September. The hardest part is my GF smokes. Trying to get her to quit is like planning my own murder. Not going to do it.
just look her dead in the eye and state how much better tasting blowjobs would be if she quit. O:-)
I don't eat enough fruit to make that even remotely true. It's worth a shot, though ;)
I think you'd have better luck offering her sexual favors of her choice, one for each day she goes w/out a ciggy.
Start practicing your alphabet... ;)
Quote from: Staggerwing on July 11, 2014, 07:48:33 PM
I think you'd have better luck offering her sexual favors of her choice, one for each day she goes w/out a ciggy.
Start practicing your alphabet... ;)
There's a thought. I understand that T is a tittilating letter.
Must look into this a bit more, although I'm a pipe smoker more these days.
Not a problem, Bob!
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na that vapour genrating machine in form of a pipe is an insult to hedonism :o
where is the flavor and the room flavoring too? ... if someone need the nicotine take a patch or a chewing gum or just quit.
i found out hat i like pipe most in those cold winter days ...now in summer its a Gauloises Blondes Rouge cig after the dinner ...or to relief some stress in the middle of a nailbiting WC soccer match on the telly ;)
Quote from: MikeGER on July 12, 2014, 06:35:38 AM
na that vapour genrating machine in form of a pipe is an insult to hedonism :o
Don't knock it 'til you've tried it. ;) Oh and don't talk to me about
flavour - you can get virtually any flavour you like (including tobacco, if you must) and unlike, say, sweets, e-juices actually taste exactly like the thing they're supposed to taste like. :)
Yeah, I had read about the pipe version here;
http://www.eacarey.co.uk/shop/
Quote from: bob48 on July 12, 2014, 06:01:18 AM
Must look into this a bit more, although I'm a pipe smoker more these days.
we go from blow jobs to pipe smoker in 4 posts and not one pun??
And you're complaining?!?!?!?!??!?!?!? BE QUIET GEEK OR YOU WILL WAKE THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
*yawn*
Huh...wazzat...? Just dreamt I was looking at the top of Christina Hendrick's head... musta been a pipe dream... :(
Quote from: MetalDog on July 12, 2014, 10:17:02 AM
And you're complaining?!?!?!?!??!?!?!? BE QUIET GEEK OR YOU WILL WAKE THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
lmao, i guess i was just disappointed in Bob
like when you beat your dad at chess for the first time - you realise hes not infallible
I'm currently vaping this bad boy, the Aspire BDC ET-S:
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BDC means Bottom Dual Coil, theoretically making it more powerful and capable of producing more vapour than an atomiser with a single coil. The tradeoff is that BDCs are very difficult to rewick - not that that bothers me since I really can't be arsed to rewick and replacement coils are very cheap anyway.
However, stricken with a severe case of shinyitis, I've just ordered its big brother, the Aspire Nautilus. Behold:
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The reason I want this is that it has a 5ml capacity (that's a lot in vaping terms) and an airflow adjustment ring built-in. It's also dual coil. If all goes to plan this should be the perfect vape. I can't wait. :)
how much?
How much nicotine as compared to a regular filtered cigarette does one full dose/session of that thing deliver?
When I was an Emergency Tech/EMT back in the 80's we had several cases of nicotine poisoning when toddlers ate shredded cigarettes they got ahold of. Those little kids got very, very sick. IIRC we also had at least 1 adult who ate a few cigarettes on a drunken dare.
Star: How much for the kit I just posted about? The ET-S is £6 from my vendor of choice, while the Nautilus is £20. Once you have a tank you like, you won't have to buy another for a long time (unless you're similarly stricken with shinyitis ;)). Atomisers are roughly £2 a piece - my vendor does bulk discounts on orders of 5+. An atomiser should last weeks. The main recurring cost is the juice. I get decent juice for £5 per 20ml, which lasts me roughly a week, but premium juice can cost twice that.
After the initial startup cost, vaping is
significantly cheaper than smoking, even if you roll your own.
Quote from: Staggerwing on July 12, 2014, 11:25:15 AM
How much nicotine as compared to a regular filtered cigarette does one full dose/session of that thing deliver?
When I was an Emergency Tech/EMT back in the 80's we had several cases of nicotine poisoning when toddlers ate shredded cigarettes they got ahold of. Those little kids got very, very sick. IIRC we also had at least 1 adult who ate a few cigarettes on a drunken dare.
I have no idea how much a single vape delivers, but you can buy differing concentrations and there's obviously nothing to determine the length of a session but yourself. When I'm at work I'll go out for a vape and spend no longer than five minutes, just like when I used to smoke. I'll vape for longer if I'm doing a single activity at home, like playing a game or watching a film. It's pretty obvious when you vape too much though - your body definitely lets you know!
I used to be a fairly heavy smoker so I buy 1.8% juice at the moment which is roughly similar to your average hand-rolled cig. You can buy juice with pretty much any concentration up to about 2.4% I believe. Some people gradually go down the scale until they're off the addiction altogether, but enjoy vaping so much they buy 0% juice. :)
VAPEMAIL!
My Nautilus arrived. It is a big bastard, and makes the e-cig pretty top-heavy. Now that I'm using a larger battery it isn't nearly as bad as when I had a Protank 2, but it's still certainly eye-catching.
First impressions: extremely positive. It vapes magnificently. The airflow adjuster is no gimmick; it really works and it's amazing the difference a few mm in diameter can make. At its most open it's just silly, you're practically vaping air, but the other three settings are fine and I'm sure I'll use them all in various situations. Combined with the variable voltage selector on my battery I can now customise every vape precisely as I want to.
It really does hold 5ml of juice (more really, but I don't want to overfill it) which means I won't have to refill nearly as often as I was with the ET-S. The vape is also purer somehow; must be the Nautilus coils which only this tank uses, but my juice is more flavourful now. It's exceptionally pleasant.
I've had trouble vaping dark juices in the past (they tend to clog coils somehow), but I'm hoping this bad boy will be able to handle the magnificent Johnson Creek (http://www.johnsoncreeksmokejuice.com/) juice. I'm going to order some tonight to find out.
Final judgement is reserved because my Protank 2 worked well for a few hours too, until it all went tits up. But right now I'm extremely impressed.
Quote from: Staggerwing on July 12, 2014, 11:25:15 AM
How much nicotine as compared to a regular filtered cigarette available at ecigfiend (http://www.ecigfiend.com) does one full dose/session of that thing deliver?
When I was an Emergency Tech/EMT back in the 80's we had several cases of nicotine poisoning when toddlers ate shredded cigarettes they got ahold of. Those little kids got very, very sick. IIRC we also had at least 1 adult who ate a few cigarettes on a drunken dare.
Hello I have been vaping for yeas and I can say it is healthier way to smoke..
Quote from: Huw the Poo on July 16, 2014, 03:28:21 PM
Final judgement is reserved because my Protank 2 worked well for a few hours too, until it all went tits up. But right now I'm extremely impressed.
Well, six weeks on and I still absolutely love my Nautilus! It's still vaping really well and, more importantly,
consistently. I even managed to convince my father in law to try them out last weekend, and he's a proper old stick in the mud. Like Bob!
Starfury: have you given these things a try yet?
do they still emit smoke?
Im going to the store this weekend and see whats what Huw.
Quote from: undercovergeek on August 28, 2014, 08:09:01 AM
do they still emit smoke?
We call it vapour (it's one way of distancing ourselves from cigarettes), and yes, great billowing clouds of the stuff. It's actually even more satisfying than the smoke from a cigarette.
Quote from: GDS_Starfury on August 28, 2014, 08:19:10 AM
Im going to the store this weekend and see whats what Huw.
Nice one matey! Just ask for a starter kit that they would recommend - or I can give you recommendations if you like, but if they know what they're doing you should be fine. If you wouldn't mind just one piece of advice - different combinations of battery and tank (not to mention juice) suit different people, so if you don't like it at first, try to resist the temptation to just go straight back to the cigs. :)
is it legal now for you to sit on a plane, be in a cinema and vape away?
My current setup (http://imgur.com/hPO1V9S)
This is the Aspire Nautilus loaded with maple waffle juice, powered by an Evod VV battery. If you look closely you can just about make out the gradations at the bottom of the battery - that's for selecting voltage. You can also see, at the bottom of the tank, a little airhole. It's sitting on a ring that can be rotated to select four different size of airhole, letting you vape just the way you want to. :)
Quote from: undercovergeek on August 28, 2014, 08:41:49 AM
is it legal now for you to sit on a plane, be in a cinema and vape away?
E-cigs aren't covered by the same legislation that bans cigarettes in public, so currently it's all down to the businesses involved. Loads of pubs are perfectly fine with it - my favourite pub in town actively defends e-cig use and will tell any patron who complains to piss off. I can't imagine many cinemas or airlines allowing their use, but there's nothing stopping them if they want to. I haven't looked into it very much to be honest.
theres going to be a fight somewhere in a cinema or plane when it gets 'lit up'
well..... $60 later and Ive got this honey flavored vapor thingy.
Were they out of stock of Stripper flavour?
The strippers name IS Honey.
Hubba!
Quote from: GDS_Starfury on September 12, 2014, 03:08:47 PM
well..... $60 later and Ive got this honey flavored vapor thingy.
Ooohhh, so exciting! Come on, whatcha got? How are you finding it so far?
I have been looking at some starter kits - can't find any pickled onion flavour though :)
What about smoked herring in white sauce?
^^ Oh dear god, you two shouldn't be let anywhere near e-cigs.
Oddly its like learning to smoke again.
Is that your Home Depot apron there?
I haven't read all the posts - but I WILL give you my own experience.
I tried several times to give up smoking using patches a couple of times...and I failed every time.
The one time I managed it and kept off them (from 1998) was to go cold turkey.
I know it's hard to justify - but at the end of the day - there is only ONE WAY to give up a HABIT - and that's to go cold turkey. You need to know how hard it is to give up. If you are weened off it, you'll never understand the addiction.
Giving up and going through that hell (whether it be nicotine, crack, heroin, pot) will make you understand what you just went through.
I do not minimise what people go through using these "other escapes"...but I do genuinely believe "most" people will not give up until they experience the horror of their addition.
Sorry if this has been said earlier - I admit to not reading the thread but jumping in with my own experience.
Anyone who is trying to give up an addiction, I applaud their attempts - but I ask you to re-evaluate your method...if you do not understand the addiction, it's hard to understand what you are depriving yourself of.
Also - (and I've done no checking on this) - check out who is involved with e-cigarettes....I would not be at all surprised if some tobacco companies are involved somewhere...and not for your health but to keep you addicted but make you think there's a healthier option (much like the food industry)!
I went through it with smoking and I'm going through it with food...the only way is to cut the shit out. That goes for grass, crack, heroin, smoking or fatty foods....
I don't want to crap on anyone trying to give up smoking...and addiction is a very personal thing. For me, cutting down and weening off did not work...cutting it out altogether AND remembering how that felt kept me off them.
good luck to anyone doing it - there's HUGE benefits and absolutely NO negatives!
Quote from: Staggerwing on September 12, 2014, 05:58:49 PM
What about smoked herring in white sauce?
Vegemite, anyone?
Mmmmmm...
I actually have some in my cupboard. Marmite as well.
Nice, Star. Looks like a CE5 coupled with an Ego battery...say, 650 mAh?
I really hope you get on with it mate. Just remember that the golden rule of vaping is to always have a backup of everything. Spare battery, spare atomiser, or in your case a spare CE5 since the atomiser is part of it. When you go 100% vape there's nothing worse than to suddenly be without some component...first thought that enters your head is to reach for a cigarette.
It took me a month or so to have the courage to throw out my tobacco, but I haven't looked back. :)
Ego C-twist.
Quote from: Huw the Poo on September 12, 2014, 07:20:41 PM
It took me a month or so to have the courage to throw out my tobacco, but I haven't looked back. :)
Awesome. Congrats!
Id kill for a cig right now...
Thanks Longblade!
Quote from: GDS_Starfury on September 12, 2014, 10:53:44 PM
Id kill for a cig right now...
For about a week I needed to start each day with a cigarette, but then I could get by with vaping all day. The eventual solution was to upgrade my kit to something more powerful, then I didn't need cigarettes at all.
What concentration of nicotine is in your e-juice? It's possible you need a higher conc. Most people start on 1.8% and adjust up or down as appropriate, but quite a few prefer 2.0% or higher.
its the middle value for whatever thats worth. I told them I smoke a pack a day and its what they recommended.
I don't think e-juice is ever going to sound right to me
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so quitting smoking is proving to be rather expensive as Im now eating all the time....
I dont want to become a fat person. :-\
Your metabolism may also slow down. That's what happened to me after I quit.
Starfury, if you aren't finding it completely satisfying yet try upping the nic concentration. It's not uncommon for people to start at 2.0% or above and gradually work their way down. Congratulations for sticking at it though!
I found the most noticeable change was getting my sense of smell back. It was particularly surprising to me because I thought that that was the one thing that hadn't got worse as a smoker, but about a week after I started vaping I really started noticing smells again. It was unmistakable.
the juice Im using is the 1.2 an I'd rather stick with that than have more nicotine.
dammit.... Im gonna have to start doing sit ups again.
I hate sit ups.
its a stupid milestone on the surface but Ive not had a cig in 9 days and no desire for one.
if only the tip of this thing was shaped like an and aspara-Gus. :-*
Excellent news mate, well done!
Quote from: Huw the Poo on September 29, 2014, 06:50:11 AM
Excellent news mate, well done!
+2 Keeping my fingers crossed for you,
Star!
"and no desire for one" is key here. This is how you know it's going to work.
Your next concern will be getting a case of shinyitis. ;)
A coworker of mine just started on the e-cig train. So far he is both "vaping" and still smoking cigarettes, even at a reduced rate.
I can relate to JudgeDredd's earlier post. I quit smoking cold turkey two years ago after a 20 year habit. I tried--like many others--to quit countless times with absolutely no successful attempt being able to stick. Over the past ten years, my daily cigarette consumption was ever so slowly being reduced, but I still had to make that "cold turkey jump" two years ago.
I also had another big incentive on my side to quitting smoking cigarettes successfully: my girlfriend. After we first met and she found out I smoked, she told me that I was basically giving a tobacco company money to slowly kill myself. At the time, in a reflective context, that put my life in a bit of perspective. She herself was a two pack a day smoker during her 20's and had successfully quit smoking cold turkey. She hasn't smoked in 18 years.
She also gave me two choices after we first met: we could either sleep together and I would not be smoking OR we could not be sleeping together and I could still smoke.
Naturally, I went with the quitting cold turkey option. Don't get me wrong, quitting nicotine will have you go kicking and screaming, but IT IS POSSIBLE to quit the habit.
Just my two cents.
Groggy
Good for you Groggy!
If e-cigs had been an option at the time, would you have tried them?
Quote from: Huw the Poo on October 02, 2014, 02:05:52 AM
Good for you Groggy!
If e-cigs had been an option at the time, would you have tried them?
Thanks!
Hard to say. I'm the type of person that any type of nicotine alternative possibly would cause me to relapse back to smoking cigarettes again. I have to go cold turkey.
For what it's worth, part of my success in dropping the habit was making sure I was constantly distracted and LOTS AND LOTS of chewing gum.
Groggy
I did a lot of gum chewing after quitting. One side effect of all that gum is...well...a possibility of having to see a man about a horse on a daily, need to go, RIGHT NOW, basis. Hope that doesn't happen for you and good luck on the cold turkey. It's the best way.
you 'did' a lot of chewing gum?
its not a suppository you know.
though it gives the phrase blowing bubbles a new and vulgar meaning.
Quote from: MetalDog on October 04, 2014, 10:53:21 PM
I did a lot of gum chewing after quitting. One side effect of all that gum is...well...a possibility of having to see a man about a horse on a daily, need to go, RIGHT NOW, basis. Hope that doesn't happen for you and good luck on the cold turkey. It's the best way.
It's the particular artificial sweetener in the gum, Sorbitol. It acts as a laxative. In the ER we used to give it to patients who overdosed on pills since the treatment for said overdoses was lots of activated charcoal by mouth. The charcoal would cause nasty constipation, hence the Sorbitol. Presumably it would also hasten the exit of any undissolved pill chunks...
so last week I dropped to the lowest nicotine level and I just want a fucking cig! I havent had one but I want one. I've also been all kinds of jittery without so much crap in my system.
Go back to the nic level you prefer. Apparently there's a synergistic effect between nicotine and the other crap in tobacco that makes nicotine more addictive than it would be on its own, but as I'm sure you know, it takes weeks for addiction to subside when you give up. My advice would be to not even think about dropping the nic level for at least another month or two. Allow whatever crap you have in your system to be absolutely gone. Then think about dropping the nic. But there's really no rush...latest scientific indications are that nicotine on its own isn't very harmful at all - some have compared it to caffeine - so you have all the time in the world to give it up later if you want to. I would imagine it's easier to give up e-cigs than the stinkies, all else aside.
steampunk:
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but more importantly, a sonic screwdriver!
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OMG that Steampunk mod is amazing! I must have it!!!
And to think, I'd been looking at the Stingray as the pinnacle of good looks:
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I've been giving serious consideration to getting a Stingray clone from Fasttech. :)
Quote from: GDS_Starfury on October 29, 2014, 11:22:16 PM
steampunk:
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I agree with SDR - this is amazing. Homemade?
Quote from: LongBlade on October 30, 2014, 07:03:58 AM
I agree with SDR
How dare you, sir?!
And yeah, it almost certainly is homemade. Probably expensive as hell too.
Quote from: Huw the Poo on October 30, 2014, 08:41:00 AM
Quote from: LongBlade on October 30, 2014, 07:03:58 AM
I agree with SDR
How dare you, sir?!
And yeah, it almost certainly is homemade. Probably expensive as hell too.
Ah, my apologies, Huw.
In my defense between Daughter #1 and Wife #1 they stole nearly half a pot of coffee this morning. I am still trying to recover.
Tch, I wouldn't stand for that! What's it going to be...thumbscrews? Couple of hours on the rack? Also, how many wives do you keep anyway?
Quote from: Huw the Poo on October 30, 2014, 09:59:25 AM
Tch, I wouldn't stand for that! What's it going to be...thumbscrews? Couple of hours on the rack? Also, how many wives do you keep anyway?
Just one, but the other day she underfilled the water reservoir.
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A couple more mistakes like that and I may be shopping around.
Shameful. Are you expected to survive on only 11 cups before refilling? That's barbaric.
Quote from: Huw the Poo on October 30, 2014, 02:03:43 PM
Shameful. Are you expected to survive on only 11 cups before refilling? That's barbaric.
Thank you. I'm glad someone sympathizes.
damn I want a cig! how the hell long does this phase last?
Always. But it gets easier with more time in between cravings. You would do well to stay away from people/places where there is smoking. Less temptation.
Quote from: MetalDog on November 03, 2014, 07:04:51 AM
Always. But it gets easier with more time in between cravings. You would do well to stay away from people/places where there is smoking. Less temptation.
So much for Star's clubbing life...
Ive been done with that for years.
Sorry to hear it mate. Have you tried upping the nic content? Nothing wrong with going for 3.6% juice for a while until the cravings die down.
its mostly from hanging at the pub for football with people who smoke.
...just a heads up to you vapists.
http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/nov/21/e-cigarettes-malware-computers
The Surgeon General will now require e-labels on e-cigarettes and all your e-devices... :uglystupid2:
Hahahaha, very amusing!
I literally don't know anyone who uses USB passthrough by the way. Why bother when using a wall charger is so much quicker?
Im getting somewhat annoyed with the "rituals". I have no intention of going back to smoking but I'm annoyed by the price differences and out of the way nature of vaping. I never need liquid when I need wicks and to get either is always off my beaten track.
Why not just buy it all online? That's what I usually do. Just lay in a store, then buy when you start running low; you need never worry then.
Look at this bastard then!
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That's a Kayfun 3.1 sitting on a Stingray mod. I haven't got it working consistently yet - building the coil is a skill that is going to take some time to master - but when it works it vapes like a train. Incredible. And major clouds!
It looks like something we had to get removed from Gus. :uglystupid2:
Actually, it looks like it's fused to detonate in proximity to enemy aircraft.
When I saw you whip it out last weekend, I thought you were about to play a tune on it ;)
Haha! Bob you only saw the little one last weekend. ;) This one's new; I've had the hardware for a while but just got hold of a suitable battery for it.
I'm on my third build already. The first two vaped OK for a short while but then burned out; I don't think they were wicking properly, so once all the juice that was initially on the wick was vapourised, there was nothing left to heat but the silica. Dammit.
For my latest build I'm using thinner kanthal wire and a different kind of silica which was slightly easier to work with. I'm getting better at building the coils already. So far, so good, but I tell you, this is not for those with little patience!
Quote from: bob48 on April 11, 2015, 10:26:39 AM
When I saw you whip it out last weekend, I thought you were about to play a tune on it ;)
The joke writes itself. :crazy2:
As indeed it was intended, I knew someone would rise to the bate.
Oh, and I should mention that I stopped smoking a month ago O0
Excellent!
Quote from: bob48 on April 11, 2015, 03:10:02 PM
Oh, and I should mention that I stopped smoking a month ago O0
Awesome! Well done Bawb!
Two more weeks, bob, and you over the hump.
We're pretty confidant - feeling much healthier and so far, no desire to revert.
Way to go Bob! I was a 1-2 pack a day smoker since age 16 but tapered down and then quit when my oldest son was born.
Quote from: bob48 on April 11, 2015, 05:14:08 PM
We're pretty confidant - feeling much healthier and so far, no desire to revert.
Awesome
Quote from: LongBlade on April 11, 2015, 06:07:25 PM
Quote from: bob48 on April 11, 2015, 05:14:08 PM
We're pretty confidant - feeling much healthier and so far, no desire to revert.
Awesome
+1 That's great Bob!
Congrats Bob - hope you have been able to stick to it.
So far the scientific evidence is that vaping is much less dangerous than smoking. Having read a ton of the public health literature, I'm persuaded that breathing deeply of any kind of smoke for prolonged periods of time is dangerous.
Still, the public health people have gone berserk about vaping. They banned it on campus at AU even though there is no evidence at all that second-hand vapor is dangerous.
You can read about some of the duplicity in: http://www.forbes.com/sites/jacobsullum/2015/04/23/why-is-the-cdc-lying-about-e-cigarettes/
Yep, it's quite simple really; tobacco companies and pharmaceutical companies make competing products, and they have a ton of money. Therefore shitloads of misinformation is spread, politicians' pockets are lined, and poorly-written, biased papers are produced. Same old shit.
Nobody is saying vaping is good for anyone, but it's about a billion times less harmful than smoking and many people who vape go on to quit altogether. Hell, there's even a hobbyist angle for some people. The e-cig revolution is something to be embraced by the whole world, but instead we get this bollocks.
Quote from: Huw the Poo on April 26, 2015, 09:25:08 AM
Yep, it's quite simple really; tobacco companies and pharmaceutical companies make competing products, and they have a ton of money. Therefore shitloads of misinformation is spread, politicians' pockets are lined, and poorly-written, biased papers are produced. Same old shit.
Nobody is saying vaping is good for anyone, but it's about a billion times less harmful than smoking and many people who vape go on to quit altogether. Hell, there's even a hobbyist angle for some people. The e-cig revolution is something to be embraced by the whole world, but instead we get this bollocks.
My opinion is:
For legal adults - your choice.
For public places - if it does not hurt others, it should not be banned. Private business can ban it if they wish.
For youth - let the US states decide this one. Let them set the legal age.
I hate cigarette smoke and have since I was a child growing up in North Carolina. I'm allergic to the smell - and it was literally everywhere (including in hospitals) in the 1960s. I've never let anyone smoke in any of my homes (including family members). What you do on your own - its your choice.
Can't disagree with any of that, Airboy.