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Title: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: TheCommandTent on April 15, 2012, 10:28:44 AM
Maybe because I have an overly romanticized view of our Secret Service (thanks Hollywood) or maybe because I am just that naive but, I was surprised to read about this.

QuoteAn embarrassing scandal involving prostitutes and Secret Service agents sent to protect President Barack Obama on his visit to Colombia expanded Saturday, when the U.S. military said five service members may also have participated in the alleged misconduct.

The 11 Secret Service agents accused of soliciting prostitutes were put on leave and Obama offered regret over the incident overshadowing his diplomatic mission to Latin America.


http://latino.foxnews.com/latino/news/2012/04/15/secret-service-scandal-expands-into-military/
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: LongBlade on April 15, 2012, 12:25:03 PM
I have been reading about that.

Weird - those guys are supposed to be pretty disciplined. Odd that a bunch of them would go out "partying" like that. Allegedly.

Though I will say that I was in DC like a year ago. Driving down the street was a blacked out SUV with lights concealed around it. Driving it were some 20-something chicks from the best I could tell.

I have no idea whose SUV or why it was out. It was an early Sunday morning IIRC. Given the article above, though, one does start to wonder if the incident I saw was somehow related.
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: Steelgrave on April 15, 2012, 02:10:33 PM
Even as we speak, Bill Clinton is trying to get them reassigned to his own security detail  8)
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: Mr. Bigglesworth on April 15, 2012, 02:29:53 PM
Quote from: Steelgrave on April 15, 2012, 02:10:33 PM
Even as we speak, Bill Clinton is trying to get them reassigned to his own security detail  8)


For their contact lists.
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: LongBlade on April 15, 2012, 03:28:32 PM
<chuckle>

You guys are funny.
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: Gusington on April 15, 2012, 03:56:03 PM
The whole story is suspect to me. Isn't "I'm in the Secret Service" one of the best pickup lines ever? Why would they need hookers?
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: Silent Disapproval Robot on April 15, 2012, 04:02:14 PM
Why is this a scandal at all?  Honestly, who cares?
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: Staggerwing on April 15, 2012, 04:20:10 PM
Quote from: Silent Disapproval Robot on April 15, 2012, 04:02:14 PM
Why is this a scandal at all?  Honestly, who cares?

From my viewpoint, the issue is that hookers are often used as bribes and 'introduction favors' by well connected criminals.
Who paid for these hookers? Are any of these agents now compromised? Anyone clone their sim cards while they were distracted?
Maybe plant a tracker or just read through their mail? Steal a laptop or tablet? These agents are just an outstretched arm
or two away from some of the most important public figures our Gov't has.
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: Steelgrave on April 15, 2012, 04:32:15 PM
Those are some really good points, Stagger. The "honey trap" was always used to good effect by the Soviets, wouldn't surprise me at all to learn there might be something deeper to the story.
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: LongBlade on April 15, 2012, 04:37:45 PM
Quote from: Steelgrave on April 15, 2012, 04:32:15 PM
Those are some really good points, Stagger. The "honey trap" was always used to good effect by the Soviets, wouldn't surprise me at all to learn there might be something deeper to the story.

That's the downside, SDR. I couldn't care less what those guys do for fun in their off-time, but there is no off time when you're in a foreign country for work.

Hopefully they'll fix whatever is broken and this will all go away. The less discussion of the President's security the better IMHO.
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: Mr. Bigglesworth on April 15, 2012, 06:14:19 PM
Quote from: Staggerwing on April 15, 2012, 04:20:10 PM
Quote from: Silent Disapproval Robot on April 15, 2012, 04:02:14 PM
Why is this a scandal at all?  Honestly, who cares?

From my viewpoint, the issue is that hookers are often used as bribes and 'introduction favors' by well connected criminals.
Who paid for these hookers? Are any of these agents now compromised? Anyone clone their sim cards while they were distracted?
Maybe plant a tracker or just read through their mail? Steal a laptop or tablet? These agents are just an outstretched arm
or two away from some of the most important public figures our Gov't has.
One news report said one of the girls refused to leave because she wasnt paid. What about the others? Prepaid by someone else? Hugo? Who knows. There is no place for that kind of thing in a job like that. Demote to parking attendant.
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: MIGMaster on April 15, 2012, 06:53:00 PM
Just goes to prove there are idiots in every line of work !
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: LongBlade on April 17, 2012, 01:24:22 PM
Paranoia appears to be contagious.

QuoteBlackhawks and A/MH-6 Little Bird helicopters used by special forces circling low through downtown Chicago skies made for a scary scene along the Chicago River, as they rattled windows flying among the city's skyscrapers.

The training exercise comes as the city found out some of the details of what the Secret Service wants for security at next month's summit at McCormick Place.

http://www.myfoxchicago.com/dpp/news/metro/military-blackhawks-circle-downtown-skies-honing-urban-battle-skills-chicago-20120416
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: pawelj on April 19, 2012, 04:33:24 AM
Boys will be boys regardless where they work. Storm in a teacup. Massive overreaction. There is nothing wrong with partying and sex, payed for or otherwise.
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: DoctorQuest on April 19, 2012, 05:46:29 AM
Quote from: pawelj on April 19, 2012, 04:33:24 AM
Boys will be boys regardless where they work. Storm in a teacup. Massive overreaction. There is nothing wrong with partying and sex, payed for or otherwise.

There is if you work for the Secret Service. As others have said, who knows who these girls were or who they might be working for? Using sex as an intelligence tool is probably the oldest trick in the book. A camera or two in the right place and you've got someone blackmailing the presidential security detail. Not good. Is that what really happened? I don't know. But these guys have no business taking the risk.

I just heard a number of these guys got canned. Works for me.
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: LongBlade on April 19, 2012, 08:21:15 AM
More evidence - add premeditation to the scandal.

QuoteSecret Service officials planning a wild night of fun in Colombia did some of their own advanced work last week, booking a party space at the Hotel Caribe before heading out to the night clubs, hotel sources tell ABC News.

As first reported by ABC, the men went to the "Pley Club" brothel, where they drank expensive whiskey and bragged that they worked for President Obama. The men were also serviced by prostitutes at the club.

Source: http://news.yahoo.com/secret-pre-planned-party-colombian-hotel-100835023--abc-news-politics.html
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: pawelj on April 20, 2012, 07:11:32 AM
Quote from: DoctorQuest on April 19, 2012, 05:46:29 AM
Quote from: pawelj on April 19, 2012, 04:33:24 AM
Boys will be boys regardless where they work. Storm in a teacup. Massive overreaction. There is nothing wrong with partying and sex, payed for or otherwise.

There is if you work for the Secret Service. As others have said, who knows who these girls were or who they might be working for? Using sex as an intelligence tool is probably the oldest trick in the book. A camera or two in the right place and you've got someone blackmailing the presidential security detail. Not good. Is that what really happened? I don't know. But these guys have no business taking the risk.

If sex is not a big deal, then there is nothing to blackmail anyone with it. Sex is a natural activity. 
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: Staggerwing on April 20, 2012, 07:46:20 AM
It's not the sex, it's the potential for opsec compromise. While these agents are humping away, probably drunk and unfocused, someone (one of the girls or even a plant among the hotel staff since this little trip was not planned in secret) could be going through their wallets, cloning their phones or planting virii on them (yes it's quite possible to infect a smartphone!) or just listening to the banter back and forth among the agents to glean useful tidbits. Hell, someone could steal an agent's CC# and then order kiddie porn.

Voice on Phone: "Care to explain that to your supervisor? I though not. Well, we won't tell if you take a few extra restroom breaks on such and such a day. Deal? Smart choice, friend..."
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: LongBlade on April 20, 2012, 08:57:53 AM
+1 with Stagger.

The guys in question were supposed to be secure. As in not compromised.

The hookers had potential access to phones, equipment in the room...errrm...intimate...knowledge of who was there.

If Pawelj, if you need it, try searching for some news articles discussing how this could have severely compromised security. The news has done a decent job of explaining how this was a Bad Idea TM.
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: DoctorQuest on April 20, 2012, 04:22:20 PM
Quote from: pawelj on April 20, 2012, 07:11:32 AM
Quote from: DoctorQuest on April 19, 2012, 05:46:29 AM
Quote from: pawelj on April 19, 2012, 04:33:24 AM
Boys will be boys regardless where they work. Storm in a teacup. Massive overreaction. There is nothing wrong with partying and sex, payed for or otherwise.

There is if you work for the Secret Service. As others have said, who knows who these girls were or who they might be working for? Using sex as an intelligence tool is probably the oldest trick in the book. A camera or two in the right place and you've got someone blackmailing the presidential security detail. Not good. Is that what really happened? I don't know. But these guys have no business taking the risk.

If sex is not a big deal, then there is nothing to blackmail anyone with it. Sex is a natural activity.

LOL!!!! I'm sorry, paying for sex is in no way natural.

+2 for Staggerwing.
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: Bison on April 20, 2012, 04:25:39 PM
The greater issue is that they compromised the saftey of the POTUS.
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: LongBlade on April 20, 2012, 05:11:43 PM
Something is not quite right here.

These guys are humans. They're not all going to be married. They're going to meet new women. Eventually one of them will end up going home with someone.

There must be some kind of protocol when this takes place, whether it be locking your phone in a safe or something else.

We're missing something.

These guys should not have been playing around while on the job, but their actual conduct - inviting strangers home - there has to be some protocol in place.
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: Staggerwing on April 20, 2012, 05:39:15 PM
Boys will be boys?

From one of the Agent's Facebook page (speaking of security risks...):

(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.ibtimes.com%2Fwww%2Fdata%2Fimages%2Ffull%2F2012%2F04%2F20%2F265256.jpg&hash=41c96c165d0b6e88ecbb36ae44353c109afedb09)

http://www.ibtimes.com/articles/331127/20120420/secret-service-colombia-scandal-ousted-agent-david.htm

Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: AmericanPride on April 20, 2012, 05:42:22 PM
The greater scandal is the apparent unanimous revolt against our drug war and Cuba policies at the Summit.... but you have to watch the foreign press to see that talked about.
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: Bison on April 20, 2012, 06:00:15 PM
Quote from: AmericanPride on April 20, 2012, 05:42:22 PM
The greater scandal is the apparent unanimous revolt against our drug war and Cuba policies at the Summit.... but you have to watch the foreign press to see that talked about.

The two topics are not related.
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: AmericanPride on April 20, 2012, 08:27:37 PM
Quote from: Bison on April 20, 2012, 06:00:15 PM
Quote from: AmericanPride on April 20, 2012, 05:42:22 PM
The greater scandal is the apparent unanimous revolt against our drug war and Cuba policies at the Summit.... but you have to watch the foreign press to see that talked about.

The two topics are not related.

Right. The "scandal" is a media joke. Meanwhile, the slow slip of South America from US leadership goes unnoticed by American media and public. How convienent for some government and military officials to get caught doing something embarrassment but ultimately irrelevant at a time when US leadership is challenged directly.
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: AmericanPride on April 20, 2012, 08:29:50 PM
Quote from: AmericanPride on April 20, 2012, 08:27:37 PM
Quote from: Bison on April 20, 2012, 06:00:15 PM
Quote from: AmericanPride on April 20, 2012, 05:42:22 PM
The greater scandal is the apparent unanimous revolt against our drug war and Cuba policies at the Summit.... but you have to watch the foreign press to see that talked about.

The two topics are not related.

Right. The "scandal" is a media joke. Meanwhile, the slow slip of South America from US leadership goes unnoticed by American media and public. How convienent for some government and military officials to get caught doing something embarrassment but ultimately irrelevant at a time when US leadership is challenged directly. All's well that's... ignored.
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: DoctorQuest on April 20, 2012, 08:43:21 PM
Time to move this thread.....
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: Bison on April 20, 2012, 10:38:22 PM
Quote from: AmericanPride on April 20, 2012, 08:27:37 PM
Quote from: Bison on April 20, 2012, 06:00:15 PM
Quote from: AmericanPride on April 20, 2012, 05:42:22 PM
The greater scandal is the apparent unanimous revolt against our drug war and Cuba policies at the Summit.... but you have to watch the foreign press to see that talked about.

The two topics are not related.

Right. The "scandal" is a media joke. Meanwhile, the slow slip of South America from US leadership goes unnoticed by American media and public. How convienent for some government and military officials to get caught doing something embarrassment but ultimately irrelevant at a time when US leadership is challenged directly.

How is it a media joke when the people charged with the responsiblity to protect the POTUS have such a major failure in performing their duties?  You realize that the President's agenda was freely availible to anyone who when into the room according to the accounts given.  Not a small matter.
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: AmericanPride on April 21, 2012, 12:25:50 AM
Quote from: Bison on April 20, 2012, 10:38:22 PM
Quote from: AmericanPride on April 20, 2012, 08:27:37 PM
Quote from: Bison on April 20, 2012, 06:00:15 PM
Quote from: AmericanPride on April 20, 2012, 05:42:22 PM
The greater scandal is the apparent unanimous revolt against our drug war and Cuba policies at the Summit.... but you have to watch the foreign press to see that talked about.

The two topics are not related.

Right. The "scandal" is a media joke. Meanwhile, the slow slip of South America from US leadership goes unnoticed by American media and public. How convienent for some government and military officials to get caught doing something embarrassment but ultimately irrelevant at a time when US leadership is challenged directly.

How is it a media joke when the people charged with the responsiblity to protect the POTUS have such a major failure in performing their duties?  You realize that the President's agenda was freely availible to anyone who when into the room according to the accounts given.  Not a small matter.

It's a media joke because there are more serious issues that occurred that are being ignored by the press. It's really quite irrelevant to American national security that a number of federal officials and military personnel are willing to pay for sex and that some of those same people can be cheap. Is this really surprising to anyone who has spent even a few minutes in any of America's male-dominated gun cultures? Fire them. Reassign them. Whatever. It - does - not - matter.

White spokesman Jim Carney said the President's security was never compromised (http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Latest-News-Wires/2012/0419/White-House-defends-Secret-Service-director?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+feeds%2Fcsm+%28Christian+Science+Monitor+|+All+Stories%29 (http://www.csmonitor.com/USA/Latest-News-Wires/2012/0419/White-House-defends-Secret-Service-director?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+feeds%2Fcsm+%28Christian+Science+Monitor+%7C+All+Stories%29)). So all of this media coverage is simply sensationalism; a foolish joke.

So what's being ignored? How about the unanimous call for the US to do more about drug demand instead of the failed policies in South America that have only made the cartels more powerful and violent? How about the unanimous call for the US to readdress its policies towards Cuba? How about the fact that we failed to secure a joint statement from the summit about how we are going to move forward together on regional issues? How about the fact that UNASUR and CELAC, led by South American states and not the United States, are taking the lead in formulating regional policy; making us increasingly irrelevant.

But we're not going to talk about the War on Drugs (and its attendant issues of violence, wasteful spending, racism, etc of the last 40 years) or reassessing Cuban-US relations in an election year. That's right, we have more important issues, like the fact that Secret Service agents and military personnel like to have sex with Latina women...  ::)
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: Bison on April 21, 2012, 12:34:35 AM
Yes.  The very first thing that the White House is going to announce is that the President's security was comprimised.  Good grief.  This issue is not who they wanted to bang.  The issue is that they compromised the POTUS.  I think you lost that fact in your rant against South American nations having an interest in South American policy.  And for that matter I'm sure that the US status in South America is not any less today than it was yesterday.  The calls for America to re-evaluate it's position on Cuba is not new.  Frankly America needs to address the culture of drugs that we promote, while on the backside wage a "war".  The United States is not irrelevant in South America and the billions of dollars we continue to send along with Federal agency/military support make that just a fact.
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: AmericanPride on April 21, 2012, 12:50:24 AM
QuoteThe issue is that they compromised the POTUS.

No -- that's not an issue at all because they didn't compromise anyone but themselves. Usually when soliciting information from another party, it's  done clandestinely; for example, without international media attention. The only people to gain from this event are those (1) willing to use to attack Obama during an election year, and (2) unwilling to publicly discuss the growing resentment against US policies in South America.

QuoteI think you lost that fact in your rant against South American nations having an interest in South American policy

And you clearly lost the fact that my "rant" was directed at the lack of media and political coverage of the failure of the summit because it's more important to talk about two dozen men willing to pay for a good time. This is an indictment of the media, not South America.

QuoteAnd for that matter I'm sure that the US status in South America is not any less today than it was yesterday.

Actually, it is -- which is why the US was on the political defensive and unable to form a consensus about two foundations of its South American policy.

QuoteThe United States is not irrelevant in South America and the billions of dollars we continue to send along with Federal agency/military support make that just a fact.

Where did I say the US was irrelevant. I clearly said "increasingly irrelevant" as evidenced by the fact that South America is on the verge of defecting from US policy despite the " billions of dollars we continue to send along with Federal agency/military support."

Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: MikeGER on April 21, 2012, 01:16:43 AM
Quote from: DoctorQuest on April 20, 2012, 04:22:20 PM
LOL!!!! I'm sorry, paying for sex is in no way natural.

i fear more natural then you may think  :o
its just lots of guys are not aware that they are paying .... new fridge, new 2nd car, new shoes, new kid, fancy vacations... you name it  ;)
 
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: Bison on April 21, 2012, 01:31:40 AM
How do you know that the POTUS was never compromised?  The media coverage?  The White House said so? The fact that Secret Service members in a foreign nation were willing to party it up while on duty is a serious matter.  If the accounts are correct that the POTUS' agenda was openly availible to anyone in the room, that is a serious breach of physical security regardless if the opportunity was acted upon or not.  Thankfully they just wanted their money and not something more nefarious.  Lord knows it wouldn't have been the first time sex was used to compromise security or intelligence.  How exactly is this an attack Obama issue?  I think you might be a little paranoid.  There are a myriad of reasons that those in disagreement with the POTUS could debate his positions and policies.  The Secret Service potentially compromising his security is not one.

Should there be a greater public awareness to American foreign policy?  Hell yeah.  Unfortunately there are many who cannot name the 50 States or the three branches of government, let alone be knowledgable on the policy positioning between the United States and the Union of South American Nations.  This speaks very clearly about the quality of news that we are presented and the priority that is given in educating the public about current events.  The media is first and foremost an entertainment industry that's bottom line is to make money.  Hence you get wall to wall coverage on the court cases like Casey Anthony or celebrity news like what is Jennifer Aniston wearing.  South American foreign policy is not going to rate high on getting a 30 second story on the evening news.  It won't even rate high on getting coverage on any of the political pundit shows.  You will get long segments on the immigration border policy.  Or the "War on drugs".  Why?  Because it's easy for the media to cast in a right/left spectrum.  That in turn allows the pundits, who bring in the ratings and money, to be bombastic in their discussions.  That sells.  The Union of South American Nations policy coverage?  Not so much.  Is that right?  Not in my opinion.  I'd like for the average American to be more aware of what is being done by the government and why.  That being said.  Even if you did have the coverage you wanted just how unbiased do you think it would be?  The supporters of the POTUS would spin one way and the detractors would spin another.  The facts would be lost in between.
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: Smuckatelli on April 21, 2012, 01:50:55 AM
Facts are facts...these ladies held at the very least TS SCI clearances. My guess is that the had Yankee white Clearances in addition to TS SCI clearances.

They should not have been doing ANYTHING that did not support the mission.

They can party all that they want when they are back in the States, they are not supposed to be dealing with call girls in any country. The best way to describe this is:

Hey you did nasty with me in the local Walmart yesterday.....I won't tell anyone if you help me do.....
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: AmericanPride on April 21, 2012, 10:23:51 AM
QuoteShould there be a greater public awareness to American foreign policy?  Hell yeah.

Thank you for seeing my point.
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: DoctorQuest on April 21, 2012, 12:23:24 PM
Quote from: MikeGER on April 21, 2012, 01:16:43 AM
Quote from: DoctorQuest on April 20, 2012, 04:22:20 PM
LOL!!!! I'm sorry, paying for sex is in no way natural.

i fear more natural then you may think  :o
its just lots of guys are not aware that they are paying .... new fridge, new 2nd car, new shoes, new kid, fancy vacations... you name it  ;)


Sigh..... Yes. I'll agree you do have a point there.  ;)
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: Centurion40 on April 22, 2012, 02:40:35 PM
$47??!!  A damned good deal!  ;)

(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.theblogismine.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2012%2F04%2FPhotos-of-Colombia-Escort-in-Explosive-Secret-Service-Prostitution-Scandal-Revealed-01.jpg&hash=a8e5b0d24bab0f4f9409bddc0d8cb8eff6420ab8)
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: Arctic Blast on April 22, 2012, 04:14:55 PM
Quote from: Centurion40 on April 22, 2012, 02:40:35 PM
$47??!!  A damned good deal!  ;)


$47 and she looks like that tells me it seems like a damn good deal until it starts to burn when you take a leak.
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: LongBlade on April 22, 2012, 05:21:57 PM
Quote from: Arctic Blast on April 22, 2012, 04:14:55 PM
Quote from: Centurion40 on April 22, 2012, 02:40:35 PM
$47??!!  A damned good deal!  ;)


$47 and she looks like that tells me it seems like a damn good deal until it starts to burn when you take a leak.

Well, it's a good deal until the next morning when you only find $18 in your wallet and she calls the cops on you.
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: Gusington on April 24, 2012, 10:13:06 AM
Burn? I bet it would be like a flame throwing pipe cleaner dispenser. Stay away!
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: Centurion40 on April 24, 2012, 10:17:17 AM
But that's what "gloves" are made for!!
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: Gusington on April 24, 2012, 11:14:11 AM
Don't make me tell you my gonorrhea story. Again. No gloves could have helped me that day.
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: Centurion40 on April 24, 2012, 11:35:36 AM
I don't recall your clap story.
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: Gusington on April 24, 2012, 12:18:37 PM
You asked for it:

The first lovely lady I was ever with didn't care that I claimed to be a virgin at the ripe old age of 16. So, to prove it, I went to a clinic far, far away from where my Mom would ever find out - at 99th Street and Amsterdam Avenue in NYC, circa 1991. At that time the neighborhood was not the greatest, but I was a 16 year old horny dude and the gal was tan, tall and had splendid cans.

So I went in and asked them for the full battery. They kind of looked at me funny being a little white guy in a black neighborhood, but they didn't turn me away. Most of the exams were harmless, but the gonorrhea one involved a long thin glass rod rammed where the sun don't shine to get a 'fluid sample'...performed by a gigantic black male orderly. He was cool and warned me that 'it may sting a little.'

Well it certainly did! I could barely walk for a couple of days after but I did get my orange NYC Health Department 'clean card.' Limping into the gal's apartment later that day, she thanked me. But we didn't actually do the nasty until almost two years later!!

I will never forget that for the rest of my life. Just a few years ago I discovered that the way I was tested was 'the old way' that was phased out probably a mere months after it was done to me. D'OH.

And there you have it.
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: Bison on April 24, 2012, 12:28:39 PM
So the moral of the story is that Gus didn't get laid, but the payment of having a glass rod shoved into his schlomo paid off a few years later. 
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: Bison on April 24, 2012, 12:29:11 PM
And this thread has nothing to do with the Secret Service anymore.
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: Gusington on April 24, 2012, 12:34:36 PM
You know I guess I don't know if there's a moral to that story at all. Hey wait, there is...nice guys finish last. What I should have done is thrown that girl to the curb and gotten someone else to get laid with at 16 instead of 18. Oh well I loved her at the time and had fun with her chest ponies. My work is done here.
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: Barthheart on April 24, 2012, 12:38:24 PM
Quote from: Gusington on April 24, 2012, 12:34:36 PM
.....
fun with her chest ponies.....

Chest ponies?!?  :o

You mean sweater puppies.  8)
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: Bison on April 24, 2012, 12:49:03 PM
Quote from: Barthheart on April 24, 2012, 12:38:24 PM
Quote from: Gusington on April 24, 2012, 12:34:36 PM
.....
fun with her chest ponies.....

Chest ponies?!?  :o

You mean sweater puppies.  8)

Haha.  Yeah what the hell is that Gus?  Chest ponies.
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: Gusington on April 24, 2012, 12:53:03 PM
It's my damned story. And she was like a 38DDD. They were not pups.
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: Barthheart on April 24, 2012, 12:54:32 PM
Quote from: Gusington on April 24, 2012, 12:53:03 PM
It's my damned story. And she was like a 38DDD. They were not pups.

LOL.....
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: Gusington on April 24, 2012, 12:55:28 PM
Yeah they were great. And tan, did I mention tan? Now I miss her.
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: Bison on April 24, 2012, 12:59:51 PM
Meh.  They are most likely saggy, shrivelled and liver spot cover now. 

Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: Gusington on April 24, 2012, 01:02:45 PM
^That's a cherished memory of youth man! COME ON
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: Barthheart on April 24, 2012, 01:04:29 PM
Yeah Bison, don't harsh on a man's first!
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: Bison on April 24, 2012, 01:04:53 PM
Oh right, close your eyes and think back to the sweet, sweet sweater utters.
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: Gusington on April 24, 2012, 01:09:32 PM
Thank you. You made me all teary eyed. If there's a heaven I hope to enter it by walking in between those sweater udders when it's my time.
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: Bison on April 24, 2012, 01:09:51 PM
I was reflecting on one of my firsts the other day.  Then I realized she turned out to be a raging psycho lunatic, who's one redeeming quality was a set of nice tatas.  So ended that day dream.
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: Gusington on April 24, 2012, 01:12:20 PM
I was just having this exact conversation with a co worker just a few hours ago. We agreed that psycho can be good as long as the chick is hot. Psycho + not hot = only psycho. Not good.
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: Bison on April 24, 2012, 01:22:13 PM
Psycho is only good so long as you are ignorant of psycho.  Once psycho is known it's always a bad thing in my opinion.
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: Gusington on April 24, 2012, 01:36:32 PM
I have always liked the hot + psycho + Catholic school combo.
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: bob48 on April 24, 2012, 02:24:33 PM
One thing this thread has made obvious is that we need a new thread listing as many in-use alternative names for boob's as our collective minds can, erm, come up with...if you see what i mean.

This should, of course, include any local derivatives relevent to the corner of the world in which we lurk.

I'll start of with a good 'ol British one;

Bristols. (from rhyming slang - Bristol Cities)

Next pleae.
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: Centurion40 on April 24, 2012, 02:28:49 PM
Wow.  A Caveat Emptor moment or what (in reply to the clap story)?
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: Gusington on April 24, 2012, 02:32:08 PM
^You better believe it, unless you like being skewered by glass rods.

One that pops into my mind for bob48 is the vulgar yet similar derivative to Bison's: fuck udders.

Next!
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: Centurion40 on April 24, 2012, 02:45:47 PM
Quote from: bob48 on April 24, 2012, 02:24:33 PM
One thing this thread has made obvious is that we need a new thread listing as many in-use alternative names for boob's as our collective minds can, erm, come up with...if you see what i mean.

This should, of course, include any local derivatives relevent to the corner of the world in which we lurk.

I'll start of with a good 'ol British one;

Bristols. (from rhyming slang - Bristol Cities)

Next pleae.

Flap Jacks.  Honestly that would relate to a specific variety of boobs.
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: bob48 on April 24, 2012, 02:46:37 PM
Knockers is another one.
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: LongBlade on April 24, 2012, 02:47:06 PM
We might want to consider moving this discussion to the Lingerie Channel...
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: Centurion40 on April 24, 2012, 02:47:52 PM
and post pics!!!
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: bob48 on April 24, 2012, 02:48:26 PM
+1
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: Gusington on April 24, 2012, 02:49:34 PM
I like flap jacks. Sounds down-home and tasty.
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: Centurion40 on April 24, 2012, 02:50:19 PM
Quote from: Gusington on April 24, 2012, 02:49:34 PM
I like flap jacks. Sounds down-home and tasty.

depends on what you put on 'em.
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: Gusington on April 24, 2012, 02:52:32 PM
A real man take'em plain. Why fool with perfection?
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: Centurion40 on April 24, 2012, 02:54:22 PM
nothing wrong with icing on a cake!
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: LongBlade on April 24, 2012, 02:54:49 PM
OK, people.

I've created a new thread for your posting pleasure.

If anyone can't access the link, PM me and I'll be glad to part the curtain.

http://grogheads.com/forums/index.php?topic=1220.0
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: Windigo on April 24, 2012, 04:41:38 PM
I was told that some threads derail to innuendo and boobs without my participation .... wow.....   :o
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: Bison on April 24, 2012, 06:37:22 PM
This thread collapsed completely into the well of boob talk.
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: Barthheart on April 24, 2012, 06:41:27 PM
Quote from: Bison on April 24, 2012, 06:37:22 PM
This thread collapsed completely into the well of boob talk.

You say that like it's a bad thing?!?  :P
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: LongBlade on April 26, 2012, 02:00:54 PM
...and now the investigation turns to a possible incident in 2011 during a trip to El Salvador.

QuoteSeattle channel KIRO-TV reported Thursday that, according to a government subcontractor who was there, agents and military personnel went to a San Salvador strip club where some of them paid for sexual favors in the VIP room. At least two agents, the source reportedly said, brought escorts back to their rooms.

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/04/26/secret-service-looking-into-latest-prostitution-claim-this-time-in-el-salvador/
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: Gusington on April 26, 2012, 02:07:08 PM
I hope I never get to see what the dark innards of a 'San Salvador strip club' look like.
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: LongBlade on May 04, 2012, 04:10:01 PM
And things continue to get worse for the guys involved.

QuoteA woman who says she was the prostitute who triggered the U.S. Secret Service scandal in Colombia on Friday called the agents involved "idiots" for letting it happen, and said that if she were a spy and sensitive information was available, she could have easily obtained it.

The woman said she spent five hours in a Cartagena, Colombia, hotel room with an agent, and while she barely got cab fare out of him, she could have gotten information that would have compromised the security of U.S. President Barack Obama if the agent had any. "Totally," she replied when asked.

"The man slept all night," said the woman, who was identified by her lawyer as Dania Londono Suarez. "If I had wanted to, I could have gone through all his documents, his wallet, his suitcase."

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/05/04/alleged-prostitute-in-secret-service-scandal-calls-agents-fools
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: Staggerwing on May 04, 2012, 04:29:26 PM
^
This was always my point...
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: Bison on May 04, 2012, 05:02:15 PM
Exactly Stagger.
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: LongBlade on January 11, 2013, 09:58:47 AM
Good to see lots of inter-agency cooperation.

QuoteA Drug Enforcement Administration agent arranged for a prostitute to have a sexual encounter with a Secret Service agent in Colombia ahead of President Obama's visit last year, according to the Justice Department.

The DEA agent stationed in Cartagena, Colombia, admitted to arranging for a prostitute to give a visiting Secret Service supervisory special agent a massage at the DEA agent's residence, a one-page summary of the Justice Department investigation stated.

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2013/01/11/dea-agent-got-prostitute-for-secret-service-agent/
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: Longdan on January 11, 2013, 10:04:07 AM
I thought it was SOP to arrange a rub and tug for visiting firemen.
I had better reconsider my idea of what's normal.
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: LongBlade on January 11, 2013, 08:10:42 PM
Quote from: Longdan on January 11, 2013, 10:04:07 AM
I thought it was SOP to arrange a rub and tug for visiting firemen.
I had better reconsider my idea of what's normal.

Could be. I wouldn't know SOP. But I think it's a great idea to have a JTFTPUH - Joint Task Force To Pick Up Hookers.
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: Staggerwing on January 11, 2013, 08:12:51 PM
Quote from: Longdan on January 11, 2013, 10:04:07 AM
I had better reconsider my idea of what's normal.

By now that should be a recurring task on all our to-do lists.
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: LongBlade on January 11, 2013, 08:17:13 PM
I thought the "new normal" was higher taxes and higher wasteful spending.
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: Mr. Bigglesworth on January 11, 2013, 09:47:26 PM
Quote from: LongBlade on January 11, 2013, 08:10:42 PM
Quote from: Longdan on January 11, 2013, 10:04:07 AM
I thought it was SOP to arrange a rub and tug for visiting firemen.
I had better reconsider my idea of what's normal.

Could be. I wouldn't know SOP. But I think it's a great idea to have a JTFTPUH - Joint Task Force To Pick Up Hookers.


What about a Joint Hoe Force?
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: LongBlade on January 11, 2013, 09:48:31 PM
LOL

Better :)
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: Longdan on January 12, 2013, 04:34:25 PM
They could at least attempt to screen their floozies.  Even I do that.  A bit.
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: LongBlade on January 12, 2013, 04:51:15 PM
I'm not sure it's the screening.

This entire scandal started when one of the guys couldn't pay his hooker.

Obviously they need a raise.
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: Longdan on January 12, 2013, 07:10:01 PM
Or better guys.
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: GDS_Starfury on January 12, 2013, 11:45:36 PM
this thread is sadly lacking it tits and ass.
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: em2nought on January 13, 2013, 10:36:56 PM
Quote from: LongBlade on January 12, 2013, 04:51:15 PM
I'm not sure it's the screening.

This entire scandal started when one of the guys couldn't pay his hooker.

Obviously they need a raise.

More likely they need to learn to balance their checkbooks, unfortunately they won't find that kind of help in DC.  :o
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: LongBlade on January 14, 2013, 09:15:59 AM
Zing!

Agreed :)
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: bayonetbrant on October 30, 2014, 12:30:14 PM
NOT The Duffel Blog

http://www.stripes.com/news/us/report-official-probing-secret-service-scandal-quits-over-prostitution-incident-1.310958
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: mirth on October 30, 2014, 01:00:36 PM
He was just doing some official probing.
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: Martok on October 30, 2014, 01:17:38 PM
Quote from: bayonetbrant on October 30, 2014, 12:30:14 PM
NOT The Duffel Blog

http://www.stripes.com/news/us/report-official-probing-secret-service-scandal-quits-over-prostitution-incident-1.310958


(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1108.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fh412%2FRotarrin%2FStar%2520Trek%2Fworf_facepalm_zps0a914673.jpg&hash=e2ce1afa1d3b743738825590f38b2df76629a047)

Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: LongBlade on October 30, 2014, 07:34:37 PM
Quote from: bayonetbrant on October 30, 2014, 12:30:14 PM
NOT The Duffel Blog

http://www.stripes.com/news/us/report-official-probing-secret-service-scandal-quits-over-prostitution-incident-1.310958

I saw that.

The corruption is running so deep that ___________ (insert forum member's name) _____________ (insert dirty verb - wait, you already did when I typed "insert") ___________ (adjective) ___________ (noun).
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: Staggerwing on October 30, 2014, 08:11:20 PM
^Grogheads Mad-Libs right there.
Title: Re: Secret Service Scandal
Post by: mirth on October 30, 2014, 08:13:54 PM
Grog-Libs