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Title: To End All Wars Livestream
Post by: HistoricalGamer on August 21, 2014, 03:46:49 AM
I think I'll be doing a live stream on twitch for the To End All Wars launch. It wont be till after I work that day, so it will probably be from 6-6:30 pm CST till around 9pm on August 25th. I'll post more details here as I get closer.
Title: Re: To End All Wars Livestream
Post by: sandman2575 on August 21, 2014, 08:55:01 AM
I'm a little mystified as to why Ageod's promotion of this game has been so under the radar -- they really have not made a big 'pr push' for TEAW -- maybe it's just me, but there seemed to be much more hoopla surrounding launch of Civil War 2.

So it's good to see the game getting some publicity --
Title: Re: To End All Wars Livestream
Post by: Sir Slash on August 21, 2014, 09:15:29 AM
Ditto. I been trying to find news about this one and other than their game site... nothing.
Title: Re: To End All Wars Livestream
Post by: WYBaugh on August 21, 2014, 12:25:29 PM
Am I blind or is there no forum on either Matrix or Slitherine?  This is being released today?
Title: Re: To End All Wars Livestream
Post by: tgb on August 21, 2014, 12:33:52 PM
Quote from: WYBaugh on August 21, 2014, 12:25:29 PM
Am I blind or is there no forum on either Matrix or Slitherine?  This is being released today?

Next Tuesday
Title: Re: To End All Wars Livestream
Post by: WYBaugh on August 21, 2014, 12:35:42 PM
Quote from: tgb on August 21, 2014, 12:33:52 PM
Quote from: WYBaugh on August 21, 2014, 12:25:29 PM
Am I blind or is there no forum on either Matrix or Slitherine?  This is being released today?

Next Tuesday

Thank you sir!!
Title: Re: To End All Wars Livestream
Post by: Nefaro on August 21, 2014, 02:50:54 PM
Quote from: sandman2575 on August 21, 2014, 08:55:01 AM
I'm a little mystified as to why Ageod's promotion of this game has been so under the radar -- they really have not made a big 'pr push' for TEAW -- maybe it's just me, but there seemed to be much more hoopla surrounding launch of Civil War 2.

So it's good to see the game getting some publicity --

I don't think AGEOD ever did much in the way of promotion in the past. 
Title: Re: To End All Wars Livestream
Post by: WallysWorld on August 21, 2014, 03:29:32 PM
Quote from: WYBaugh on August 21, 2014, 12:25:29 PM
Am I blind or is there no forum on either Matrix or Slitherine?  This is being released today?

Ageod has the forum for this game: http://www.ageod-forum.com/forumdisplay.php?358-To-End-All-Wars&s=dafd580eed3357ed08ecff23d361ddb0 (http://www.ageod-forum.com/forumdisplay.php?358-To-End-All-Wars&s=dafd580eed3357ed08ecff23d361ddb0)
Title: Re: To End All Wars Livestream
Post by: WallysWorld on August 23, 2014, 01:16:40 PM
AAR of the game: http://www.ageod-forum.com/showthread.php?36769-Decisive-Moments-a-To-End-All-Wars-After-Action-Report (http://www.ageod-forum.com/showthread.php?36769-Decisive-Moments-a-To-End-All-Wars-After-Action-Report)
Title: Re: To End All Wars Livestream
Post by: tgb on August 23, 2014, 03:17:22 PM
Those screens remind me of PrON.....and not in a good way, either
Title: Re: To End All Wars Livestream
Post by: Surtur on August 23, 2014, 04:41:39 PM
Quote from: tgb on August 23, 2014, 03:17:22 PM
Those screens remind me of PrON.....and not in a good way, either

This game is more similar to Civil War II than to Pride of Nations. It takes all the engine improvements introduced by CWII and takes it even further. The engine rules have also been altered to provide a convincing representation of WW1 combat.

While combat-wise it is probably the most detailed Ageod game yet, it is slightly less ambitious than PoN. The game covers only four years instead of 70, making it easier to balance and stabalize. Here at the office we have already been having fun with the beta version of the game and we are really looking forward to release!
Title: Re: To End All Wars Livestream
Post by: Kushan on August 23, 2014, 05:41:40 PM
Thanks for posting Surtur. Is it still on schedule for release Tuesday or has it been bumped a few days? I noticed Steam is saying it unlocks on the 29th.
Title: Re: To End All Wars Livestream
Post by: Surtur on August 24, 2014, 02:15:31 AM
On our own sites (Matrix, Ageod, Slitherine) the release will be on the 26th. The Steam release will indeed be a couple of days later. Know that we will also give you a steam key if you buy from our stores :)
Title: Re: To End All Wars Livestream
Post by: Rayfer on August 24, 2014, 07:04:43 AM
Surtur's comment..."It takes all the engine improvements introduced by CWII and takes it even further"...is a breath of fresh air for me. ACW2 is an outstanding game so this bodes well for 'To End All Wars'.
Title: Re: To End All Wars Livestream
Post by: Boggit on August 24, 2014, 01:42:56 PM
There are some very cool additions to the game. For a sneak peek check out Bart's youtube link.
http://store.steampowered.com/app/312360/
Title: Re: To End All Wars Livestream
Post by: W8taminute on August 24, 2014, 03:16:13 PM
^Based on that preview video over at Steam I'm convinced that this game is a must have!   O0
Title: Re: To End All Wars Livestream
Post by: HistoricalGamer on August 26, 2014, 05:52:39 AM
I'll be streaming To End All Wars herehttp://www.twitch.tv/thehistoricalgamer (http://www.twitch.tv/thehistoricalgamer) in about 6 hours, from 12pm cst till 2-3pm ish. There is a slight change I might go till 3pm or maybe end as early as 1:30 pm. Someone I went to high-school with is playing in the US Open today and when I end the stream will probably be determined by the timing of his match which will be determined by the two matches in front of him so I might not get in as much as I would like.

If you miss the Stream you'll be able to watch it on my YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/thehistoricalgamer (https://www.youtube.com/thehistoricalgamer) within a day.

I've also uploaded the first turn of the game I'm going to be streaming, I figured rather than looking all over the map and getting a general feel of the visuals, and the warplan options over the first 20 or so minutes of the game I'd just record the first turn and make it available before the stream. If you don't watch it you're not missing a ton, I just look at the warplan options, the map, and some of the general UI and scenario selection.
Title: Re: To End All Wars Livestream
Post by: tgb on August 26, 2014, 09:17:38 AM
I'm tempted to get this but have a question on complexity.  For some reason I could never get my head around Aegeod's Civil War titles.

For those who have both, how dies this compare to Civil War I or II?
Title: Re: To End All Wars Livestream
Post by: sandman2575 on August 26, 2014, 09:30:27 AM
Quote from: HistoricalGamer on August 26, 2014, 05:52:39 AM
I'll be streaming To End All Wars herehttp://www.twitch.tv/thehistoricalgamer (http://www.twitch.tv/thehistoricalgamer) in about 6 hours, from 12pm cst till 2-3pm ish. There is a slight change I might go till 3pm or maybe end as early as 1:30 pm. Someone I went to high-school with is playing in the US Open today and when I end the stream will probably be determined by the timing of his match which will be determined by the two matches in front of him so I might not get in as much as I would like.

If you miss the Stream you'll be able to watch it on my YouTube channel https://www.youtube.com/thehistoricalgamer (https://www.youtube.com/thehistoricalgamer) within a day.

I've also uploaded the first turn of the game I'm going to be streaming, I figured rather than looking all over the map and getting a general feel of the visuals, and the warplan options over the first 20 or so minutes of the game I'd just record the first turn and make it available before the stream. If you don't watch it you're not missing a ton, I just look at the warplan options, the map, and some of the general UI and scenario selection.

Nice -- thanks for putting this together -- looking forward to hearing your thoughts. 
Title: Re: To End All Wars Livestream
Post by: mikeck on August 26, 2014, 09:42:56 AM
Well it has been released at matrix. If you want to wait for steam you'll have to wait for the 29th. But anyway it's out now if anybody's grabbing it and has some opinions
Title: Re: To End All Wars Livestream
Post by: Tamas on August 26, 2014, 09:44:05 AM
Quote from: tgb on August 26, 2014, 09:17:38 AM
I'm tempted to get this but have a question on complexity.  For some reason I could never get my head around Aegeod's Civil War titles.

For those who have both, how dies this compare to Civil War I or II?

Hello!

We have tried to make it easier for newcomers to come to grasp with TEAW's system. We have a preview video up on the very basics at Steam, and there is of course a tutorial which explains what I believe the two major issues for people not used to AGEOD's games:
-stack handling with drag and drop plus the stances set on the armies
-forming corps and armies

The latter I believe is decidedly easier due to simulating more modern command structures. Basically, corps are much more autonomous than in CW2, so you build divisions and organise them into corps for better command abilities, but then you are rather free in how you deploy and move these corps around (eg. in CW2, if you wanted one corps to help the other in battle, you needed them to belong to the same army. this is no longer needed in TEAW). You will want to stack them with army HQs for maximum efficiency, but generally speaking it is easier for a newcomer to build and maintain an organised army.
Title: Re: To End All Wars Livestream
Post by: Tamas on August 26, 2014, 09:44:51 AM
Quote from: mikeck on August 26, 2014, 09:42:56 AM
Well it has been released at matrix. If you want to wait for steam you'll have to wait for the 29th. But anyway it's out now if anybody's grabbing it and has some opinions

You can purchase from AGEOD/Matrix and then request a Steam key for the game:
http://www.ageod-forum.com/showthread.php?36772-Redeeming-your-Steam-key
Title: Re: To End All Wars Livestream
Post by: Blakjack on August 26, 2014, 09:51:33 AM
I'm wondering how this compares to Commander: The Great War.  Apples / Oranges or more like tomato-tomahtoe potato-potahtoe?
Title: Re: To End All Wars Livestream
Post by: Tamas on August 26, 2014, 11:16:28 AM
Quote from: Blakjack on August 26, 2014, 09:51:33 AM
I'm wondering how this compares to Commander: The Great War.  Apples / Oranges or more like tomato-tomahtoe potato-potahtoe?

Commander is the more lightweight of the two, although it does a nice job in staying true to WW1 with its results (I keep returning to it). TEAW is the heavier and more detailed simulation of the conflict, also offers things like a more open-ended (but plausible) diplomacy and alternative war plans.

You should have both ;)
Title: Re: To End All Wars Livestream
Post by: Tuna on August 26, 2014, 11:16:37 AM
Is this supposed to be live right now? Or different time zone?
Title: Re: To End All Wars Livestream
Post by: Tamas on August 26, 2014, 11:25:01 AM
Quote from: Tuna on August 26, 2014, 11:16:37 AM
Is this supposed to be live right now? Or different time zone?

It is live on Matrix/Slitherine/AGEOD.
Title: Re: To End All Wars Livestream
Post by: Tuna on August 26, 2014, 11:27:18 AM
I meant the Stream..
Title: Re: To End All Wars Livestream
Post by: Tamas on August 26, 2014, 11:31:25 AM
 ;D my bad
Title: Re: To End All Wars Livestream
Post by: HistoricalGamer on August 26, 2014, 11:40:07 AM
Quote from: Tuna on August 26, 2014, 11:16:37 AM
Is this supposed to be live right now? Or different time zone?

It's CST, so it's scheduled for 20 minutes from now but I might start a few minutes early.

http://www.twitch.tv/thehistoricalgamer (http://www.twitch.tv/thehistoricalgamer)
Title: Re: To End All Wars Livestream
Post by: Slick Wilhelm on August 26, 2014, 12:02:19 PM
To me, every non-ancients AGEOD game is a day one purchase. I just bought my copy from the Matrix Games website. I've been looking forward to this game ever since Revolution Under Siege was released. For some reason, I think the AGE engine fits combat in Eastern Europe and Russia really well.
Title: Re: To End All Wars Livestream
Post by: tgb on August 26, 2014, 12:35:37 PM
I just watched a bit of the live stream, and turn resolution times looked painfully slow.  Like Pride of Nations slow. If true, that makes this a pass for me.
Title: Re: To End All Wars Livestream
Post by: sandman2575 on August 26, 2014, 12:38:45 PM
My impression is turn-resolution is on par with Civil War II, maybe a minute/minute-and-a-half at most.  I haven't played ProN but I understand turn-resolutions can be several minutes long, getting worse as the game proceeds.  That's not what I've seen with CW2, and don't expect to with TEAW --

EDIT -- hmm, may have to take that back -- watching the current turn resolution, it's definitely taking longer than what I've seen in CW2...
Title: Re: To End All Wars Livestream
Post by: mikeck on August 26, 2014, 01:35:01 PM
I never minded the turn times. It took me about 10 minutes to review all messages, make sure everyone is supplied, organize new units, build stuff, play cards, etc. If it took 2 minutes for a turn to process, I was ok. PRON would take 3-4 sometimes which was a bit much.

I have disliked every other WWI game, so for me it's this or nothing

Here is a clip from the matrix description. The game is huge so I would expect turn resolutions of 1-2 minutes:

"Setting: the game covers all of Europe, from the Western seaboard to the Volga, from 1914 to 1918. Middle-East is also in, as well as most of the rest of the world (as off-map boxes regions)
Game map is divided into more than 3,000 regions, with a variety of terrain, climates and development level."

I have seen any complaints about the times but several have noted it in a sort of a "cost of found business" sort of way
Title: Re: To End All Wars Livestream
Post by: Tuna on August 26, 2014, 02:13:40 PM
Quote from: HistoricalGamer on August 26, 2014, 11:40:07 AM
Quote from: Tuna on August 26, 2014, 11:16:37 AM
Is this supposed to be live right now? Or different time zone?

It's CST, so it's scheduled for 20 minutes from now but I might start a few minutes early.

http://www.twitch.tv/thehistoricalgamer (http://www.twitch.tv/thehistoricalgamer)

Good job.. you have a great voice for streaming.. Entertaining.. definitely swayed me towards wanting to purchase.. Though wish the turns were quicker.. I was cmurphy625 in chat.  8)
Title: Re: To End All Wars Livestream
Post by: HistoricalGamer on August 26, 2014, 02:29:01 PM
Thanks for tuning in! Stream went well and honestly the turn load times probably would be useful for a stream to allow more time for interaction with the viewer rather than distracting my chain of thought in turn trying to figure out what I want to do and also keep up with the audience. Turn times seemed to be about 2-3 minutes.

Enjoyed the stream and probably will stream again either late tonight in about 12 hours or tomorrow around the same time, 12-3pm cst.