http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/20/world/asia/india-says-it-successfully-tests-nuclear-capable-missile.html?_r=1&hp
Works better than N.K.'s and no outcry from west......
Quote from: Barthheart on April 19, 2012, 08:07:45 AM
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/20/world/asia/india-says-it-successfully-tests-nuclear-capable-missile.html?_r=1&hp
Works better than N.K.'s and no outcry from west......
That's because Indian nukes are not going to be aimed at Western nations or Israel while being a more credible threat to
Islamic nations and China than US nukes. Since relations are warming quite a bit between the US and India while they
are cooling rapidly with Pakistan it allows the US and Western Nations to keep a potential for regional influence by switching
players.
I just saw that headline.
Agree with Stagger - India isn't running around conducting itself like a rogue nation. Therein lies the difference.
Besides, if we were to complain about India, all telephone customer support would be cut-off!
This must be the other project my 'off-shore' tech team is working on.
I don't view this positively. Pakistan is definitely not happy about this and they could strike first.
Nukes anywhere in that part of the world = bad.
Quote from: Gusington on April 19, 2012, 09:28:02 AM
This must be the other project my 'off-shore' tech team is working on.
I don't view this positively. Pakistan is definitely not happy about this and they could strike first.
Nukes anywhere in that part of the world = bad.
India is going to have to grow up fast, and it appears as though they are.
They have the Paks on one side and the Chinese on another. As a democratic government it is almost inevitable that they will need to get cozier with the US and the West. They will also need to make plans so as to not be steamrolled by their neighbors.
I don't like the idea either, but the genie is out of the bottle. The best we can hope for is that Iran doesn't get its hat in the ring.
^If anything, Iran will use this as another excuse for getting the bomb.
http://www.unitedagainstnucleariran.com/
Quote from: Gusington on April 19, 2012, 09:28:02 AM
This must be the other project my 'off-shore' tech team is working on.
I don't view this positively. Pakistan is definitely not happy about this and they could strike first.
Nukes anywhere in that part of the world = bad.
And maybe that is what the Illuminati, Masters of Puppets, etc. want. Pakistan hits India, India has the moral high ground and pounds Pakistan into the stone age, reminds the rest of the world why nukes are so horrible, and takes its seat as a democratic republic at the big boy's table as a foil against China.
Quote from: Centurion40 on April 20, 2012, 08:33:28 AM
Quote from: Gusington on April 19, 2012, 09:28:02 AM
This must be the other project my 'off-shore' tech team is working on.
I don't view this positively. Pakistan is definitely not happy about this and they could strike first.
Nukes anywhere in that part of the world = bad.
And maybe that is what the Illuminati, Masters of Puppets, etc. want. Pakistan hits India, India has the moral high ground and pounds Pakistan into the stone age, reminds the rest of the world why nukes are so horrible, and takes its seat as a democratic republic at the big boy's table as a foil against China.
India doesn't need nukes to pound Pakistan into the stone age though.... just better leadership....
I like the status quo (Pax Americana), but there are worse scenarios than Pax Indiana in western Asia.
Quote from: Barthheart on April 20, 2012, 08:36:14 AM
Quote from: Centurion40 on April 20, 2012, 08:33:28 AM
Quote from: Gusington on April 19, 2012, 09:28:02 AM
This must be the other project my 'off-shore' tech team is working on.
I don't view this positively. Pakistan is definitely not happy about this and they could strike first.
Nukes anywhere in that part of the world = bad.
And maybe that is what the Illuminati, Masters of Puppets, etc. want. Pakistan hits India, India has the moral high ground and pounds Pakistan into the stone age, reminds the rest of the world why nukes are so horrible, and takes its seat as a democratic republic at the big boy's table as a foil against China.
India doesn't need nukes to pound Pakistan into the stone age though.... just better leadership....
note that I didn't say "Nuke Pakistan into the stone age." ;)
Quote from: Centurion40 on April 20, 2012, 08:36:55 AMI like the status quo (Pax Americana), but there are worse scenarios than Pax Indiana in western Asia.
Why the hell are the Hoosiers invading Asia?!
Quote from: bayonetbrant on April 20, 2012, 08:56:04 AM
Quote from: Centurion40 on April 20, 2012, 08:36:55 AMI like the status quo (Pax Americana), but there are worse scenarios than Pax Indiana in western Asia.
Why the hell are the Hoosiers invading Asia?!
Harleyrider must be violating the restraining order that Dell Tech Support took out against him...
One could argue that much of Pakistan is barely beyond the stone age as it is. Nuking it might rid us of the rats but it's not likely to reduce the technology by much.
Quote from: Barthheart on April 19, 2012, 08:07:45 AM
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/04/20/world/asia/india-says-it-successfully-tests-nuclear-capable-missile.html?_r=1&hp
Works better than N.K.'s and no outcry from west......
whole different kettle of fish
They are democratic, from a Commonwealth tradition, Hindus are peaceful, etc.
Quote from: Mr. Bigglesworth on April 20, 2012, 12:45:19 PM
They are democratic, from a Commonwealth tradition, Hindus are peaceful, etc.
See it's all good, relatively speaking.
I have yet to meet an Indian immigrant who was not a decent, hard working, considerate person. I can't say that for every other immigrant group (including my own- British)!!
Well don't blanket label people. I'm sure there are some very nice Persians too.
My problem with Indian nukes is that it gives powers not friendly to the west an excuse to start trouble.
I'm sure Sheldon Cooper's mother would say they're nice people no matter what kinda magic animal they worship. ;D
HA
Quote from: Gusington on April 20, 2012, 01:15:45 PM
Well don't blanket label people. I'm sure there are some very nice Persians too.
My problem with Indian nukes is that it gives powers not friendly to the west an excuse to start trouble.
I could say the same thing about Persians!! *edit* Immigrants that I have personally met.
Don't get me wrong...me saying not to blanket people does not automatically mean I am happy that Iran is getting the bomb.
I'm sure there are very nice people on all sides of this. Now I would like a beer, please.
Quote from: Gusington on April 20, 2012, 01:15:45 PM
Well don't blanket label people. I'm sure there are some very nice Persians too.
My problem with Indian nukes is that it gives powers not friendly to the west an excuse to start trouble.
define
not friendly IMO they are refreshingly candid about some western stupidities... and they doing tend to keep China's attentions never far from home for very long
Quote from: Gusington on April 20, 2012, 01:38:52 PM
Don't get me wrong...me saying not to blanket people does not automatically mean I am happy that Iran is getting the bomb.
I'm sure there are very nice people on all sides of this. Now I would like a beer, please.
A fair point in that I am inferring that, if all Indian immigrants to Canada have met are good and decent people then the government of India will be decent as well. Then I have just gone on to confess that I could say the same of all the Persian immigrants to Canada that I have personally met... now lets turn our gaze to Tehran.... ::)
^Well to flip the tables on you I am good friends with a Persian family that are very nice. I also work with a team of Indians that are very nice.
One failing in your thinking 40 is to assume that anyone as part of any government is nice. Where's your paranoia man!!
Quote from: Gusington on April 21, 2012, 04:54:25 PM
^Well to flip the tables on you I am good friends with a Persian family that are very nice. I also work with a team of Indians that are very nice.
One failing in your thinking 40 is to assume that anyone as part of any government is nice. Where's your paranoia man!!
See! Both nice, that's what I said!!
I work for government... so do Migsy and Windy. Wait, WTF am I trying to say??!
Ok, I'm gonna change approach. The democratic Indian government seems ok, comparatively speaking, west Asian-wise.
Nice to know my taxes are contributing, I would like to stay more but it would be a long term holiday from the site.
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MPs question future of aid money for India
The UK must "fundamentally" change its aid relationship with India after 2015 by giving less to the increasingly prosperous country, MPs say.
The international development committee backed the government's decision to continue providing £280m a year in the short term to combat poverty.
But it called for a redirection of money towards priorities such as improving hygiene and education.
The government said this "endorsed" its own approach to aid for India.
The UK continuing to help India while the south Asian nation's own government spends large sums on projects such as a space programme has attracted criticism.
The coalition has promised to spend 0.7% of gross national income on overseas aid and India is the biggest single recipient of that aid.
In its report the committee agreed with ministers that the existence of "large pockets of poverty" within the country justified the maintenance of UK aid for the immediate future.
'More rigorous'
But it expressed concerns at a lack of experience within the Department for International Development (DfID) in dealing with the private sector, through which half the money is expected to be invested.
They demanded "greater clarity" on which projects would be the most effective.
DfID also needed to be "more rigorous" in choosing initiatives to support and give more attention to improving sanitation and reducing social exclusion, the committee said.
Its report said: "We support the UK's continued development assistance to India for the period up to 2015.
"However after this the development relationship must change fundamentally to one based on mutual learning and technical assistance where requested."
The committee's chairman, Liberal Democrat MP Malcolm Bruce, said: "The test of whether the UK should continue to give aid to India is whether that aid makes a distinct, value-added contribution to poverty reduction which would not otherwise happen. We believe most UK aid does this.
"The Indian government has primary responsibility for poverty reduction. It has put up taxes and increased its social spending, but the poverty there is on such an extreme scale that it will take many years for India to achieve internationally agreed Millennium Development Goals."
However, Oxfam criticised the setting of arbitrary deadlines for the potential end of financial aid.
Senior policy adviser Max Lawson said: "This report clearly shows that UK aid plays an important role in tackling poverty in India, a country with more poor people than the whole of sub-Saharan Africa.
"MPs are right to say that we should keep our aid under review. But future aid to India should be determined by the needs of poor people there and the ability of their government to help them, not by any arbitrary deadline."
A DfID spokesman said: "We're glad that this report by the cross-party International Development Committee endorses our approach to delivering aid in India."
A nation that has an aircraft carrier in its fleet should not be getting foreign aid.
Quote from: Centurion40 on April 20, 2012, 01:00:20 PM
Quote from: Mr. Bigglesworth on April 20, 2012, 12:45:19 PM
They are democratic, from a Commonwealth tradition, Hindus are peaceful, etc.
See it's all good, relatively speaking.
I have yet to meet an Indian immigrant who was not a decent, hard working, considerate person. I can't say that for every other immigrant group (including my own- British)!!
Come to Vancouver and try to take a stroll through Surrey. you'll get disabused of that viewpoint (and likely a few teeth and your wallet) pretty quickly.
Quote from: Centurion40 on April 22, 2012, 02:36:47 PM
Quote from: Gusington on April 21, 2012, 04:54:25 PM
^Well to flip the tables on you I am good friends with a Persian family that are very nice. I also work with a team of Indians that are very nice.
One failing in your thinking 40 is to assume that anyone as part of any government is nice. Where's your paranoia man!!
See! Both nice, that's what I said!!
I work for government... so do Migsy and Windy. Wait, WTF am I trying to say??!
Ok, I'm gonna change approach. The democratic Indian government seems ok, comparatively speaking, west Asian-wise.
and they are not a muslim nation fer crying out loud
Well, the term "thug" did originate in India.
Quote from: Centurion40 on April 23, 2012, 08:21:34 AM
Well, the term "thug" did originate in India.
I had the same thought.