Anybody plan on getting on this? I belve it goes retail today. I know they had an early access program, but seems like they have added a lot of features since that program ended. Anybody who got it during EA have any thoughts?
I bought it when the beta became available a year ago, and it's a very different game today. If not for feedback from early adapters, there would be no US-Soviet space race in the game and you wouldn't be able to mix and match rockets and capsules.
My memory of the original may be a little faulty, but it seems like a good successor to BARIS. In some ways more user-friendly (more feedback, you no longer have to worry about astronauts who share a mission liking each other, the campaign now give you a list of milestones you have to hit before the first moon landing can be attempted) and in others ways deeper (Astronauts, researchers, and mission control personnel are all rated for age, pay grade, intelligence and morale, and have scores for 5 different areas of expertise, which can be improved through advanced training. Mission control personnel are now assigned to specific positions, and if there is a mid-mission problem will attempt to correct it).
There's also no FMV.
I can't comment on the AI since it's been several builds since I played it and I just finished downloading the Steam version. There are plenty of gameplay videos up on Youtube, including the developer livestream from earlier in the week.
Looks interesting, but I have barely scratched the surface of Kerbal space program. Awaiting to hear the inevitable comparisons before I buy.
I would imagine that SPM has very little in common with KSP, other than the fact that they both focus on space. KSP is certainly a spectacular game they sets the bar high for any game that may draw a comparison to it.
BASPM is more of an economic/management sim. There's no hands-on flight control or design of rockets. Instead you are controlling which programs get opened, how much research each component might get, management of astronauts/scientists/mission personnel, when it's safe to launch, etc.
And the failures aren't played for laughs.
Quote from: tgb on October 31, 2014, 10:08:37 AM
BASPM is more of an economic/management sim. There's no hands-on flight control or design of rockets. Instead you are controlling which programs get opened, how much research each component might get, management of astronauts/scientists/mission personnel, when it's safe to launch, etc.
And the failures aren't played for laughs.
Think that is kind of the direction Kerbal is headed in with the latest patch "Economic Boom". Not just about rocket design, but more about program management.
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I'll give Ignacio the heads up on this. He's best placed to answer any questions on the game. :)
HistoricalGamer posted a nice early access AAR here (http://grogheads.com/forums/index.php?topic=10200.0). The game is much improved since then.
topics merged
Is this game as ridiculously hard as BARIS?
Hello all,
Developer of SPM here :)
Quote from: bboyer66 on October 31, 2014, 07:37:17 AM
Looks interesting, but I have barely scratched the surface of Kerbal space program. Awaiting to hear the inevitable comparisons before I buy.
They are totally different games, really. The only thing we share is (partially) the name and the setting. SPM is about management, the Cold War and real space missions. You don't design and fly your rockets. Instead, you allocate resources the best you can and hope everything will turn out fine. If you like the subject, both KSP and SPM should be on your hard-drive ;)
Quote from: Coiler on October 31, 2014, 03:41:39 PM
Is this game as ridiculously hard as BARIS?
We did quite a bunch of playtesting during the Early Access and, while it's not a walk in the park, the game provides a considerable challenge. The fact that your flight controllers kick in when something goes wrong during a mission certainly gives you more control than the original game, where success only depended on your mission components.
Please let me know if you have further questions!
Hope you like the game.
Cheers,
--Ignacio Liverotti
Pretty good Let's Play (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vsbhQrChMwk)
I have to say this looks pretty darn good. I haven't been following it since it was announced, but what seems to have come out of EA seems pretty interesting. Seeing the $19 price tag, I am tempted to give it a try.
If anyone has played it: how is the replayability? That is my only concern.
Did I buy this game this morning? AMEN! :smitten:
If it's like the original BARIS at all, it should have quite decent replayability; moreso now because the missions have been greatly expanded from Saturn back to the Sun.
The UI doesn't even have tooltips at this point, which makes figuring out all the buttons a chore. The designer is apparently looking at this.
Yeah, there are a lot of side missions that you can farm for prestige as well as improving you components and mission control staff stats.
Quote from: DicedT on November 02, 2014, 01:12:57 PM
The UI doesn't even have tooltips at this point, which makes figuring out all the buttons a chore. The designer is apparently looking at this.
Agreed. Tool tips are needed here.
Quote from: DicedT on November 02, 2014, 01:12:57 PM
The UI doesn't even have tooltips at this point, which makes figuring out all the buttons a chore. The designer is apparently looking at this.
Strange that didn't come up after being in early access so long....
There is a UI reference guide already available for download. See post #8.
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Eat me, Nikki.
Next up - trying the Soviet campaign on Hard
Currently running a Buzz-hard Soviet Campaign AAR here (http://grogheads.com/forums/index.php?topic=11711.0).
I've probably already fatally messed up; but since the game has a semi-fatal resolution bug for trying to schedule launches, I'm waiting until a new patch is released (probably tomorrow) and off to eat dinner. ;)
What bug is this?
From what I'm reading here and on the game's forum, it doesn't sound like it, but is this a game that my non-gamer Dad could possibly get into or is the learning curve just huge? He LOVES this subject matter but he has no patience at all for learning to play with complex games, was thinking of getting him this or Kerbal Space Program but I don't think his computer would run KSP well, although it seems more "fun" from what I've played of the old free version...
Quote from: Caffeinator on December 16, 2014, 10:41:45 PM
From what I'm reading here and on the game's forum, it doesn't sound like it, but is this a game that my non-gamer Dad could possibly get into or is the learning curve just huge? He LOVES this subject matter but he has no patience at all for learning to play with complex games, was thinking of getting him this or Kerbal Space Program but I don't think his computer would run KSP well, although it seems more "fun" from what I've played of the old free version...
KSP is amazing. But it also has a lot of complexity.
I've not picked up BASPM yet but it looks pretty straightforward in a simple point-and-click sorta way.
If he loves the subject matter, don't worry, the learning curve for this game isn't huge. The user interface is a bit wonky, but not difficult. (And the resolution bug I mentioned only affects trying to play the game in a window at particular resolutions, which I had to do in order to get screenshots for the AAR so it probably won't be a problem.)
You can send him to my AAR link if you want to get an idea of what's involved up to my first achieved mission.
Thanks Nefaro and Jason, I may pick it up for him after all!