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Title: Operation Afganistan (Rework of Counters)
Post by: PanzersEast on November 27, 2014, 10:47:54 AM
I am now going through and reworking the counters for Operation Afghanistan... below are some working sample. Cheers

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Title: Re: Operation Afganistan (Rework of Counters)
Post by: bayonetbrant on November 27, 2014, 12:13:31 PM
very cool.  you ought to share some of these over at CSW in their counter design forum, too :)

http://talk.consimworld.com/WebX?14@@.1dd2df44/0
Title: Re: Operation Afganistan (Rework of Counters)
Post by: Nefaro on November 27, 2014, 12:15:47 PM
Hey PE.  Did you ever get in contact with the game creator to see if it was okay to post these in the BGG file section or wherever? 


I've not checked out any of his ground warfare solitaire games.  Still haven't cut out the stuff for Thud Ridge, which is the only one I currently have.  Not sure how I'll get on with it yet.
Title: Re: Operation Afganistan (Rework of Counters)
Post by: PanzersEast on November 28, 2014, 03:17:32 AM
I've updated all counters and refined from the ones I created above.  You can download the entire set from here:

OPERATION AFGHANISTAN COUNTER SET (http://linesofcommand.com/files/OperationAfghanistan.zip)


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Cheers,
PE
Title: Re: Operation Afganistan (Rework of Counters)
Post by: PanzersEast on November 28, 2014, 03:19:28 AM
Quote from: Nefaro on November 27, 2014, 12:15:47 PM
Hey PE.  Did you ever get in contact with the game creator to see if it was okay to post these in the BGG file section or wherever? 


I've not checked out any of his ground warfare solitaire games.  Still haven't cut out the stuff for Thud Ridge, which is the only one I currently have.  Not sure how I'll get on with it yet.

I did get permission, however after I finished the set some of the images I used I could not verify authors so I cannot upload to BGG.. but I do have a link in the Hunter Over Korea forum to download them.  I am working on combining them into one download like I did above.

I may work on Thud Ridge Next...

PE
Title: Re: Operation Afganistan (Rework of Counters)
Post by: MIGMaster on November 28, 2014, 07:50:44 AM
Wow those look great PE !
Title: Re: Operation Afganistan (Rework of Counters)
Post by: Nefaro on November 28, 2014, 10:01:03 AM
Isn't the usual spelling "Desantnik"?  Or is it just a Lysdexia moment on my part?
Title: Re: Operation Afganistan (Rework of Counters)
Post by: PanzersEast on November 28, 2014, 10:01:42 AM
Here are the re-worked Counters for Hunters Over Korea.  I am working on the maps now, however not sure how long that will take.

HUNTERS OVER KOREA COUNTERSET (http://linesofcommand.com/files/HuntersOverKorea.zip)




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Title: Re: Operation Afganistan (Rework of Counters)
Post by: PanzersEast on November 28, 2014, 10:03:49 AM
Quote from: Nefaro on November 28, 2014, 10:01:03 AM
Isn't the usual spelling "Desantnik"?  Or is it just a Lysdexia moment on my part?

Yep, you are correct... I will fix that.

Thanks,

PE
Title: Re: Operation Afganistan (Rework of Counters)
Post by: GJK on November 28, 2014, 11:39:59 AM
I'm working on wargaming graphics for print myself this morning as well....it's *almost* as fun as actually playing the game(s).  Great work here; very impressive!
Title: Re: Operation Afganistan (Rework of Counters)
Post by: Nefaro on November 28, 2014, 02:16:44 PM
Battleboard looks good.  O0
Title: Re: Operation Afganistan (Rework of Counters)
Post by: PanzersEast on December 04, 2014, 09:40:44 AM
I have now reworked the map for Operation Afghanistan....

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Title: Re: Operation Afganistan (Rework of Counters)
Post by: bayonetbrant on December 04, 2014, 10:19:17 AM
soooo much better
Title: Re: Operation Afganistan (Rework of Counters)
Post by: weateallthepies on December 04, 2014, 03:16:12 PM
Great work on these.

I've got Aces of Valor, and just grabbed the Roman conquest game, but I might have to get some of the ones you've improved.
Title: Re: Operation Afganistan (Rework of Counters)
Post by: PanzersEast on December 04, 2014, 04:47:18 PM
Quote from: weateallthepies on December 04, 2014, 03:16:12 PM
Great work on these.

I've got Aces of Valor, and just grabbed the Roman conquest game, but I might have to get some of the ones you've improved.

Thanks, next on my list is Aces of Valor and either King Arthur or Heroes of Argos.  I plan on upgrading all content as well.

Here is the Hunters Over Korea Map that is a Work in Progress to go with the Counter rework I have done.

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Cheers,
PE
Title: Re: Operation Afganistan (Rework of Counters)
Post by: PanzersEast on December 05, 2014, 09:58:08 AM
Quote from: weateallthepies on December 04, 2014, 03:16:12 PM
Great work on these.

I've got Aces of Valor, and just grabbed the Roman conquest game, but I might have to get some of the ones you've improved.

I've started looking at the Aces of Valor counters.... just an initial workup:

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And Heroes of Argos

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PE
Title: Re: Operation Afganistan (Rework of Counters)
Post by: Nefaro on December 05, 2014, 02:16:29 PM
 O0


I'm a bit of a top-down nut when it comes to aircraft on counters.  When I saw the new side view ones in the Excalibre repring of Wings (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/2742/wings), I could almost cry.   

They did the same with their reprint of Panzer (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/4288/panzer-first-edition) but doing so with vehicles doesn't seem quite so odd, despite the scale still requiring all the facing and angle calculations that made the side view on the aircraft look so weird in Wings.

Of course, the combat is abstracted in the ones you're working on, without facing requirements, so not as big a deal.

Just my preference when it comes to counters, anyway.  Do you prefer side-view or top-view for aircraft and vehicle counters?
Title: Re: Operation Afganistan (Rework of Counters)
Post by: PanzersEast on December 05, 2014, 02:35:24 PM
Quote from: Nefaro on December 05, 2014, 02:16:29 PM
O0


I'm a bit of a top-down nut when it comes to aircraft on counters.  When I saw the new side view ones in the Excalibre repring of Wings (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/2742/wings), I could almost cry.   

They did the same with their reprint of Panzer (http://www.boardgamegeek.com/boardgame/4288/panzer-first-edition) but doing so with vehicles doesn't seem quite so odd, despite the scale still requiring all the facing and angle calculations that made the side view on the aircraft look so weird in Wings.

Of course, the combat is abstracted in the ones you're working on, without facing requirements, so not as big a deal.

Just my preference when it comes to counters, anyway.  Do you prefer side-view or top-view for aircraft and vehicle counters?

I am also working on some top down images as well.... but I initially worked on the side view.  Once I have the top down worked out I will post back.


PE
Title: Re: Operation Afganistan (Rework of Counters)
Post by: Nefaro on December 05, 2014, 02:37:54 PM
One other thing..


You have a Fokker D.VII pic on those counters, but it's listed as a Fokker D.VIII.   Intentional?  Does his WWI game include D.VIIIs?  Those were barely around at the very end of the war and I'm not sure if they were even used operationally before the end (they were the mono-winged fugly ones).
Title: Re: Operation Afganistan (Rework of Counters)
Post by: PanzersEast on December 05, 2014, 02:44:59 PM
Quote from: Nefaro on December 05, 2014, 02:37:54 PM
One other thing..


You have a Fokker D.VII pic on those counters, but it's listed as a Fokker D.VIII.   Intentional?  Does his WWI game include D.VIIIs?  Those were barely around at the very end of the war and I'm not sure if they were even used operationally before the end (they were the mono-winged fugly ones).

No, that is a typo on my part   :uglystupid2:

PE
Title: Re: Operation Afganistan (Rework of Counters)
Post by: Nefaro on December 05, 2014, 02:54:15 PM
Quote from: PanzersEast on December 05, 2014, 02:44:59 PM
Quote from: Nefaro on December 05, 2014, 02:37:54 PM
One other thing..


You have a Fokker D.VII pic on those counters, but it's listed as a Fokker D.VIII.   Intentional?  Does his WWI game include D.VIIIs?  Those were barely around at the very end of the war and I'm not sure if they were even used operationally before the end (they were the mono-winged fugly ones).

No, that is a typo on my part   :uglystupid2:

PE




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  :P  :))


You want to put these up for some proofreading when they're almost finalized PE?   C:-) 
Title: Re: Operation Afganistan (Rework of Counters)
Post by: weateallthepies on December 05, 2014, 06:21:38 PM
Nice! Though I'll now have to make another copy of Aces of Valor  :)

I really like the Argos one though, very thematic.

Love messing with print and play games so it's always nice to see this sort of thing.
Title: Re: Operation Afganistan (Rework of Counters)
Post by: Gator Skin on December 05, 2014, 07:38:36 PM
Everything on this thread looks great! Are the links to the games? BGG links?
Title: Re: Operation Afganistan (Rework of Counters)
Post by: Nefaro on December 05, 2014, 07:59:26 PM
Quote from: Gator Skin on December 05, 2014, 07:38:36 PM
Everything on this thread looks great! Are the links to the games? BGG links?

Berserker Games.   The guy has some solitaire print & play games:


http://www.berserkergames.net/


The game info links go to the BGG entries last I looked.   I only have Thud Ridge but may eventually pick up the WWI air war one and maybe an ancients one depending on how much I enjoy TR.
Title: Re: Operation Afganistan (Rework of Counters)
Post by: jomni on December 08, 2014, 10:42:14 PM
Too little I formation aside from the title to get me intersed. They need to have more screens and examples of game mechanics.