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So far I am leaning towards Command Modern Air/Naval but Elite would be first if I could get a joystick (looking for an X52 Pro but I need to get one on craigslist because this is a purchase I cannot hide from the wife when it is sitting on the desk)

If you were going to drop the dough on one of the above games which one has been keeping you happy with your gaming?

Con

Nothing says Christmas like Attila. But it won't be out before January.

Good time to pick up CMANO while it's on sale.

Quote from: mirth on December 19, 2014, 02:34:24 PM
Good time to pick up CMANO while it's on sale.

  CMANO is fun, but you can get lost in the editor.  I mean in a good way, but it eats time fast.

Depending on your mood and interest Distant Worlds or Command. Command probably has more replayability with the size of the database but Distant Worlds is the best space 4x on the market IMO.

I second Kushan's assessment of Distant Worlds.  Obviously not everyone agrees (I know Huw in particular isn't a fan), but IMHO you get a lot of great space 4x gaming with the Universe package. 

While Attila doesn't come out til next year, you should seriously consider picking up Rome II if you don't already own it.  (If you do, then never mind and carry on. ;) )  It's by far my favorite Total War title in the last decade. 

Staring at CMANO on sale on Steam.

Playing the sick Holiday Sale game of wondering if it will go down even more and, if it does, will I feel really robbed?

Best,

Jim
"Cyrano"
:/7)

Quote from: Cyrano on December 19, 2014, 04:37:57 PM
Staring at CMANO on sale on Steam.

Playing the sick Holiday Sale game of wondering if it will go down even more and, if it does, will I feel really robbed?

Best,

Jim
"Cyrano"
:/7)

I purchased Borderlands The Pre-Sequel as a gift for a nephew last night when it was around 10% off.   He really wanted it and the gift exchange is tomorrow so I picked it up not expecting it to hit any daily sales anytime soon, being fairly new.

Sure enough, it went down to 50% off today. 

>:(


Why do my procrastinating tendencies not kick in when I need them to?!

Get Elite. You don't really need a supah-dupah joystick to play. One with a throttle slide and a few buttons will do fine for now and  you can always upgrade to a HOTAS setup later on if you want.

Grab this one to get started (only $27):

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826102204


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get COMANO while its on sale .... (you had it on the list so u are not afraid of its magnitude)

not because Elite is bad,
just because Elite has missions that are timed and the time is measured in RL-hours (typical 3 to 9 hours but also down to 10 minutes) ), which can put a unwanted real pressure on you especially in times where sudden unforeseen RL interdictions ( pun indented  ;) ) is imminent.
certainly you can save any time ...but i guarantee you will feel the surge to get back online again before your mission timer has finally ticked down to zero.

In addition there are situations where you simply 'cant' ( =want to) interrupt your game for a few minutes! (or suffer a huge setback that may cost you hours of playtime invested) not answering a phone or a question or order yelled from another room or anything ...for example when about to enter a station and land or you in a fight and about getting destroyed or destroying the enemy , or picking up the rare item in space you need to retrieve and deliver in time...
you need the solitude and freedom to turn away any disturbance for several minutes until the situation is stablised and you save then

of course get Elite later too O0 ('later' can be anything from minutes to days ;-) ) 

 

Now it gets interesting

Command 49.95 on STEAM sale
Distant Worlds at 59.95 no sale

I was leaning towards command but the poll is saying Distant Worlds and I have been coveting this for a while as well.  The good news is I cant go wrong on either one

Con

Quote from: Staggerwing on December 19, 2014, 06:57:34 PM
Get Elite. You don't really need a supah-dupah joystick to play. One with a throttle slide and a few buttons will do fine for now and  you can always upgrade to a HOTAS setup later on if you want.

Grab this one to get started (only $27):

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826102204


(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimages17.newegg.com%2Fis%2Fimage%2Fnewegg%2F26-102-204-S01%3F%24S640%24&hash=c7a0c038832bb2d4f772c66f069ed41871a6e8a2)

I have that stick. Good value for the money.

Quote from: Con on December 21, 2014, 06:41:38 PM
Now it gets interesting

Command 49.95 on STEAM sale
Distant Worlds at 59.95 no sale

I was leaning towards command but the poll is saying Distant Worlds and I have been coveting this for a while as well.  The good news is I cant go wrong on either one

Con

Although I've not played it in awhile to see what they are, CMANO has been getting updates that are adding much needed features.  If I were you, I'd probably get that on the sale.  $50 - $60 was around the price tag I had hoped for when it was released.

Or you could roll the dice and see if DWU comes down on a sale before Christmas gets going.

Or you could try the Matrix general Christmas sale, buying DWU from them directly, $50 download on sale.

Only consider Command if your a true grog who love modern naval warfare. Other wise it could be abit to dry.

If you don't have Flashpoint Campaigns Red Storm I'd say that over the others.

I gave CMANO away. The interface and the lack of at hand info got on my wick. In fairness, they've improved it somewhat.

Distant Worlds - there's a LOT of game there - but I was lost. I didn't feel at ease with having everything automated and I couldn't find a happy middle ground...I gave up and I sold it for charity - with all the DLC - someone got a bargain that day

Total War Attila...I didn't know was out.

Elite:Dangerous - by far (in your list and imo) the best game of 2014 for me. Hands down the winner.

I am such a waffler when it comes to games

Thanks for the heads up on FPC Red Storm I do have that one and it was one of my favorites this year and I  really like the updates and new look maps.

I do like operational games and Command Ops is one of my favorite so I am intrigued by CMANO but I dont know if I would love it?  The subject matter is interesting but not what I am most drawn too.
Distant Universe I dont have a good 4X space game and I do like those a lot but I have sort of drifted away from Civ etc so would the same happen to me with this game.
Elite I like the look a RL friend is going all in and playing this so I would have someone to game with
TW Rome I have played as the Iceni and taken over the world but while I like it I just dont seem to stick with it as well (I really played the heck out of TW Medieval) so I was hopping Atilla would scratch the itch. 

I think I will save the money try and get a X52 Pro (I want a twisty stick and a good one) when it goes on sale somewhere (just missed the NewEgg sale at $30 off) and jump into Elite sometime in 2015.  So that means no gaming presents under the tree but I think it where my heart lies for gaming.  Also I still want to get CO2 and CM BlackSea so I do have to keep some gaming bandwidth open for those when they finally arrive.

Thanks for the info and if there are any other suggestions please throw them my way

Thanks
Conrad

Do you like Star Trek? Or Warhammer 40K?

Because DWU features some very decent free mods for each of those properties.

So far as I've heard, CMANO and Red Storm do not.

Advantage: DWU.  :coolsmiley:

@Con Command Ops is nothing like CMANO. More like Harpoon. I wouldn't buy CMANO on the basis I like Command Ops.

Quote from: TacticalWargames on December 24, 2014, 12:12:03 PM
@Con Command Ops is nothing like CMANO. More like Harpoon. I wouldn't buy CMANO on the basis I like Command Ops.

Sorry I didnt clarify what I meant.  I was trying to illustrate that CMANO like CO requires a steep learning curve, a large time commitment to understand the nuances, lots of gameplay to grasp the mechanics and heavy perusal of the boards and AAR's to learn how to win at it.  This is far different from the other games listed which are of a different scope.

Thanks
Con

So, Con, what did you end up with?  :coolsmiley:

Elite FTW!   :D

I ended up with a Woolley pulley a bacon press and a new bottle of scotch (bunnachban 25 rare reserve). But no war games. My plan is to find an x52 pro on sale and get elite. I need to have a veneer of a sale to convince the wife that this is a bargain!

So I hope to be on Elite before the year ends

Conrad

Quote from: Con on December 25, 2014, 10:17:46 PM
...and a new bottle of scotch (bunnachban 25 rare reserve).
Conrad

Oooh, an Islay scotch! My favorite kind lately.

I am soooo weak

Couldnt find any post holiday deals the Joystick I wanted fro Elite and I just couldnt bear the thought of not getting a game on sale so I broke down and bought CMANO.

Downloading it now

(Plus this guarantees that the Gods of Wargaming will punish me by starting an amazing firesale on X52 pro joysticks thus putting me in an even worse quandary of whether I can get away with buying one and ELITE as well :>)

Con

Is the X52 still being manufactured?  Or are they still making those along with their newer one that was supposed to replace it?

Its still available on the Saitek site but the way I read it they are switching to the X55 but the price (list) between the two is the same.

The X52 Pro was on sale at Newegg for about $130 and I was thinking it would come down more after Christmas..Instead it is up now over $200.

I chose poorly

Con

Quote from: Con on December 26, 2014, 07:36:44 PM
Its still available on the Saitek site but the way I read it they are switching to the X55 but the price (list) between the two is the same.

The X52 Pro was on sale at Newegg for about $130 and I was thinking it would come down more after Christmas..Instead it is up now over $200.

I chose poorly

Con

$150 here

http://www.mypilotstore.com/mypilotstore/sep/5474

Quote from: bbmike on December 26, 2014, 09:51:18 AM

Quote from: Con on December 25, 2014, 10:17:46 PM
...and a new bottle of scotch (bunnachban 25 rare reserve).
Conrad

Oooh, an Islay scotch! My favorite kind lately.

...always been my fave - Laphroaig slipping down nicely as I write this!

I cannot get over the price increases in good scotch int he last two years.  Some of my favorite bottles have gone up 300 or 400% (that is not a typo).

I guess it comes down to supply and demand.  I wish that 20+ years ago someone would have told all those distilleries that the damn hipsters and Chinese were going to increase demand by over 50%.  Would have saved me from having a heart attack on the prices when I try and go back and buy a bottle of the good stuff after a year or two.  I guess whisky booms and bust on a fairly predictable 20 year cycle so I will have to ride this one out for a few years.

Con   

Quote from: Con on December 26, 2014, 07:36:44 PM
Its still available on the Saitek site but the way I read it they are switching to the X55 but the price (list) between the two is the same.

The X52 Pro was on sale at Newegg for about $130 and I was thinking it would come down more after Christmas..Instead it is up now over $200.

I chose poorly

Con

At around $200, I'd just suggest getting a CH Fighterstick and Rudder Pedals.  If you place a premium on the stick's mechanical performance anyway.  I'll be happy to never mess with cramped handles and heavy springs with uneven resistance ever again.  The CH Fighterstick made me a believer.

Con, if you get Elite, I won't only stalk you with PBEMs, but in the big black beyond as well! ;)


-oOo-

Quote from: Martok on December 19, 2014, 04:23:56 PM
I second Kushan's assessment of Distant Worlds.  Obviously not everyone agrees (I know Huw in particular isn't a fan), but IMHO you get a lot of great space 4x gaming with the Universe package. 

Hey, don't listen to me.  As usual I'm in the minority on this one; most people think Distant Worlds is amazing.  For some reason. ;)

Hey, getting multiple opinions of a game is always useful -- especially when they're not the product of mindless fanbois and haters (which I like to think we're not).  :)