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Title: VERY important announcement for CMBN installers. It should make many here happy
Post by: Elvis on December 20, 2014, 08:57:26 PM
New CM:BN master installers!
Combat Mission Battle for Normandy - News   
Saturday, 20 December 2014

As previously rumored, we have now updated all CM:BN packages available for purchase to Game Engine Version 3.0, meaning that all of the packages available in the www.battlefront.com/store now are fully up to date v3.11. This also marks the end of life of CM:BN v2.x, which has now been discontinued.

As part of this update, we have also implemented our new master installer system for CM:BN. Here are some of the highlights:

1- every full version download will always be up to date from now on and always include the latest updates. No need to patch after purchase. And if you need to re-install at some later point, simply re-download your purchase and you will always have the latest version without the need to apply individual patches.
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2- every full version download including a base game purchase, or the 3.0 Upgrade, now contains the full master installer for the entire family including all modules and packs. This means if you purchase just the base game, and later decide to purchase a module, you will not have to download anything at all! All you'll need is the license key from your purchase to unlock the module content which you'll already have!

3- we implemented this system retroactively for all 3.0 Engine Upgrade purchases! Your store download for that purchase now points to a full master installer, including all of the content for Normandy, updated to v3.11. If you ever need to reinstall, that's the only thing you need. And, as per 1- above, this download will always remain up to date in the future.

4- future patches or modules or packs not containing a base game purchase will come with smaller installers with more or less just the content you'll need, to avoid excessive downloads. So if you're up to date already except for the latest release, you won't have to re-download the whole master again.

5- this system will enable us to, in the future, allow h2h play between players who do not own the same content. In other words, you'll be able to play against someone with Commonwealth Forces, even if you haven't purchased that module. You won't, of course, be able to use content in solo play if you haven't purchased it yourself. Note that this is planned for future releases, not a new feature available now!

6- this system will make reinstalls much easier, as well as relicensing on a new PC, and will reduce the risk for installation errors. Moreover, this new system is not using individual module.exe files any more, making it much less prone to anti-virus software false positives.

7- Older purchases of CM:BN - 1.x and 2.x - have not been updated and remain accessible to those who purchased them. We strongly recommend these users to purchase the 3.0 Upgrade, however, which will replace their game with a 3.0 engine and the simple one-stop full master installer.

8- if you purchase a Mail Delivery (Download & Mail or Mail only), you will automatically receive a disc with the latest version available at the time of shipping. If, in the future, you would like to receive an updated disc, you will be able to request one by submitting a ticket at battlefront.mojohelpdesk.com. You will need to pay $5 plus the usual S&H.

Combat Mission: Fortress Italy and Combat Mission: Red Thunder will be updated to this new system next year. Combat Mission: Black Sea will already be available using this same system.

Happy Holidays!

The Battlefront.com Team
Title: Re: VERY important announcement for CMBN installers. It should make many here happy
Post by: Grim.Reaper on December 20, 2014, 09:13:10 PM
On the surface, this sounds very good...always loved all-in-one installers to remove questions on what needs to be installed.....

but #4 confuses me a bit...how is this different then patches today...don't patches today already only contain the additional changes/contents in a smaller installer?

4- future patches or modules or packs not containing a base game purchase will come with smaller installers with more or less just the content you'll need, to avoid excessive downloads. So if you're up to date already except for the latest release, you won't have to re-download the whole master again.
Title: Re: VERY important announcement for CMBN installers. It should make many here happy
Post by: Elvis on December 20, 2014, 09:28:41 PM
Quote from: Grim.Reaper on December 20, 2014, 09:13:10 PM
On the surface, this sounds very good...always loved all-in-one installers to remove questions on what needs to be installed.....

but #4 confuses me a bit...how is this different then patches today...don't patches today already only contain the additional changes/contents in a smaller installer?

4- future patches or modules or packs not containing a base game purchase will come with smaller installers with more or less just the content you'll need, to avoid excessive downloads. So if you're up to date already except for the latest release, you won't have to re-download the whole master again.

That isn't much different from what is currently done. The convoluted installation instructions didn't affect the people that added as things came out. The.....frustrations...that people have don't seem to come from adding to an existing fully installed version of game but from reinstalling or purchasing an earlier release. For instance, if you had the base game and Market Garden installed right through 3.0 but had never purchased the Commonwealth module, under the previous method, installing CW reverted the game to 1.10. Which meant you had to reinstall the 1.11 patch, 2.0, Market Garden, 2.12 patch and 3.0. Now all you have to do is use your CW key to activate/unlock it. No additional downloading or installing is needed. For people who have purchased everything and updated as new patches were released those things were never really an issue.....unless you needed to do a full reinstall...which is now a 1 step process.
Title: Re: VERY important announcement for CMBN installers. It should make many here happy
Post by: sandman2575 on December 21, 2014, 09:40:09 AM
Elvis -- all good news.  One question though -- will Fortress Italy / Gustav Line be getting the latest patch that BN and RT received?

Title: Re: VERY important announcement for CMBN installers. It should make many here happy
Post by: Bison on December 21, 2014, 10:38:46 AM
Well maybe I'll revisit my CM library.  Frankly all of the installs, upgrades, engine variations gave me a head ache and made me not want to deal with playing the games.
Title: Re: VERY important announcement for CMBN installers. It should make many here happy
Post by: JudgeDredd on December 21, 2014, 11:26:25 AM
How do you know what version of what game you have?

I have
CM:SF (says 1.32)
   CM:SF Marines
   CM:SF British Forces
   CM:SF NATO

CM:BN (says 2.12)
   CM:BN Market Garden

CM:FI (says v1.20)

CM:Red Thunder (says v1.03)

:idiot2:
Title: Re: VERY important announcement for CMBN installers. It should make many here happy
Post by: WallysWorld on December 21, 2014, 11:40:04 AM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on December 21, 2014, 11:26:25 AM
How do you know what version of what game you have?

I have
CM:SF (says 1.32)
   CM:SF Marines
   CM:SF British Forces
   CM:SF NATO

CM:BN (says 2.12)
   CM:BN Market Garden

CM:FI (says v1.20)

CM:Red Thunder (says v1.03)

:idiot2:
Your CMFI is version 3.0, but shows as v1.20 as does mine.

It appears your CMBN is not at version 3 yet as it changes to v2.20 if you have the v3 upgrade installed. Once you install v3 for CMBN and then the 3.11 patch, then CMBN shows as v3.11.

Your CMSF and CMRT are up to date.

It was confusing installing the 3.0 updates for CMBN and CMFI and not have the version number change to v3.

Title: Re: VERY important announcement for CMBN installers. It should make many here happy
Post by: JudgeDredd on December 21, 2014, 11:48:50 AM
^ I have no idea why they would think it's logical not to have the version number include the engine designation  :uglystupid2:
Title: Re: VERY important announcement for CMBN installers. It should make many here happy
Post by: Yskonyn on December 21, 2014, 01:54:22 PM

Quote from: JudgeDredd on December 21, 2014, 11:48:50 AM
^ I have no idea why they would think it's logical not to have the version number include the engine designation  :uglystupid2:

As wondered many with you, lol!
It has been a rant on here and on their boards. Luckily they have changed it, at least partly. :)
Title: Re: VERY important announcement for CMBN installers. It should make many here happy
Post by: Elvis on December 22, 2014, 09:29:03 AM
The only one with the goofy designation is CMFI. And that will change.

Sandman, everything will be on this new system.

Title: Re: VERY important announcement for CMBN installers. It should make many here happy
Post by: Sir Slash on December 22, 2014, 11:33:35 AM
Just upgraded CMRT to 1.03 and now I have dead horses lying in the fields. Well one anyway. Is this new? Or am I late to the party? I haven't seen this before. Also there are now little dog houses around some buildings,  no dogs, but nice. Also despite what the Battlefront post says, my save games won't load. Anybody else have this problem?
Title: Re: VERY important announcement for CMBN installers. It should make many here happy
Post by: sandman2575 on December 22, 2014, 11:54:57 AM
Save games won't load because they get stuck at 26%?

I had the "26% bug" big time, but 1.03 solved it for me.  BF keeps making a distinction between games you save at the beginning of a new order phase (assuming you play WEGO), and games you save at the end of a phase, when you can replay the action. Seems if your save falls into this latter category, it's a corrupt save you can't do anything about.  Possibly that's what's causing you the problem -- ?
Title: Re: VERY important announcement for CMBN installers. It should make many here happy
Post by: Sir Slash on December 22, 2014, 01:47:28 PM
Exactly what's happening-- the load sticks at 26%. I almost never save in the replay phase, only by error. The game says 1.03. Maybe it didn't install properly. I'll try it again.
Title: Re: VERY important announcement for CMBN installers. It should make many here happy
Post by: sandman2575 on December 22, 2014, 01:53:05 PM
Might want to make sure you temporarily remove any mods ("Z" folder) if you do a reinstall.
Title: Re: VERY important announcement for CMBN installers. It should make many here happy
Post by: Sir Slash on December 22, 2014, 03:01:58 PM
Got no mods Sandman but thanks for the advice. Working on it.
Title: Re: VERY important announcement for CMBN installers. It should make many here happy
Post by: JudgeDredd on January 04, 2015, 02:53:42 PM
Can anyone tell me (where's Elvis? Has he left the building?) - if I upgrade Combat Mission Battle for Normandy to v3.11, am I able to continue my Market Garden campaign?
Title: Re: VERY important announcement for CMBN installers. It should make many here happy
Post by: JudgeDredd on January 05, 2015, 10:31:10 AM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on January 04, 2015, 02:53:42 PM
Can anyone tell me (where's Elvis? Has he left the building?) - if I upgrade Combat Mission Battle for Normandy to v3.11, am I able to continue my Market Garden campaign?
Anyone?

Elvis? He has left the building, hasn't he?

I've put in a request for info from Battlefront Helpdesk Ticket - but it could be a while.
Title: Re: VERY important announcement for CMBN installers. It should make many here happy
Post by: panzerde on January 05, 2015, 11:40:13 AM
I know that when Jim and I upgraded in the middle of a PBEM game we were able to continue it. I haven't actually tested a campaign, but I would think you'd be fine.
Title: Re: VERY important announcement for CMBN installers. It should make many here happy
Post by: Yskonyn on January 05, 2015, 12:05:41 PM
Savegames are compatible if you save in the orders phase.
If you save in the resolution phase they will become corrupt.


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Title: Re: VERY important announcement for CMBN installers. It should make many here happy
Post by: JudgeDredd on January 05, 2015, 12:39:51 PM
Thanks lads - but word from BF helpdesk is it "might"...

I think I'll upgrade anyway
Title: Re: VERY important announcement for CMBN installers. It should make many here happy
Post by: Elvis on January 05, 2015, 02:04:34 PM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on January 05, 2015, 10:31:10 AM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on January 04, 2015, 02:53:42 PM
Can anyone tell me (where's Elvis? Has he left the building?) - if I upgrade Combat Mission Battle for Normandy to v3.11, am I able to continue my Market Garden campaign?
Anyone?

Elvis? He has left the building, hasn't he?

I've put in a request for info from Battlefront Helpdesk Ticket - but it could be a while.

Looks like your ticket came across at 2am my time. It was bound to be "a while". :)

One thing that you can do, that isn't recommended, is to have 2 installations of the game on your computer. That way if it doesn't work you still have 2.x available to finish the campaign.

Also, if you buy 3.0 today the download that you get will be the full game installer. So it will install everything (all patches, modules and Upgrades) making it even easier to make it an additional installation. Just remember to follow the activation steps correctly. Here's the short version again so that you have it handy:

Launch the game and activate with your 3.0 key
Close the game
Double click desktop shortcut labeled Activate Modules and enter your Commonwealth key
Double click desktop shortcut labeled Activate Modules and enter your Market Garden key

Title: Re: VERY important announcement for CMBN installers. It should make many here happy
Post by: JudgeDredd on January 05, 2015, 02:19:07 PM
Yeah - it was rather fast given I posted the question on Sunday night. Kudos where it's due.

I noticed it was the full installer at 10GB!!!!  :o

I think I'll just take the hit and install. Do I install over my existing installation or do I have to uninstall? (I'm guessing I can install over)

Thanks
Title: Re: VERY important announcement for CMBN installers. It should make many here happy
Post by: Elvis on January 05, 2015, 02:33:30 PM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on January 05, 2015, 02:19:07 PM
Yeah - it was rather fast given I posted the question on Sunday night. Kudos where it's due.

I noticed it was the full installer at 10GB!!!!  :o

I think I'll just take the hit and install. Do I install over my existing installation or do I have to uninstall? (I'm guessing I can install over)

Thanks

Yup. It will overwrite your current installation.

And Sundays aren't usually an issue. Heck, I was responding on Christmas.
Title: Re: VERY important announcement for CMBN installers. It should make many here happy
Post by: panzerde on January 05, 2015, 02:45:10 PM
Ah, the joy of support. As someone who repeatedly had gaming and other activities interrupted by responding to support requests, I salute you!

Fortunately for me, our support burden decreases over the holidays, while I'm sure yours goes way, way up.

Title: Re: VERY important announcement for CMBN installers. It should make many here happy
Post by: JudgeDredd on January 05, 2015, 02:50:51 PM
Thanks

It doesn't look like I'm going to be able to install it anytime soon. It seems to be stuck at 55%
Title: Re: VERY important announcement for CMBN installers. It should make many here happy
Post by: panzerde on January 05, 2015, 02:52:30 PM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on January 05, 2015, 02:50:51 PM
Thanks

It doesn't look like I'm going to be able to install it anytime soon. It seems to be stuck at 55%


Give it a good kicking. It'll finish or be sorry.
Title: Re: VERY important announcement for CMBN installers. It should make many here happy
Post by: JudgeDredd on January 05, 2015, 03:08:39 PM
Elvis (if you're still about)

The download keeps stalling on me. It stopped at 55%. I restarted (hoping it started where it finished but it didn't) and now it's just sitting at 11%

Any ideas pal? Is it going to be just this slow? Should I leave it and start the download tonight (GMT 23:00)? Am I able to stop it and start it a third time?
Title: Re: VERY important announcement for CMBN installers. It should make many here happy
Post by: Elvis on January 05, 2015, 03:11:26 PM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on January 05, 2015, 02:50:51 PM
Thanks

It doesn't look like I'm going to be able to install it anytime soon. It seems to be stuck at 55%

Try a different browser. I have the best results with Chrome (it's the only thing that I use Chrome for) but others swear by Firefox
Title: Re: VERY important announcement for CMBN installers. It should make many here happy
Post by: JudgeDredd on January 05, 2015, 03:17:37 PM
Is there a limit to the number of times I can retry downloading?

I'm using Chrome at the moment (I was using IE 11)
Title: Re: VERY important announcement for CMBN installers. It should make many here happy
Post by: Elvis on January 05, 2015, 03:24:25 PM
Quote from: JudgeDredd on January 05, 2015, 03:17:37 PM
Is there a limit to the number of times I can retry downloading?

I'm using Chrome at the moment (I was using IE 11)

No limit on the amount of times you can download.

Except for 1 guy a couple of months ago, IE seems to be the worst.
Title: Re: VERY important announcement for CMBN installers. It should make many here happy
Post by: JudgeDredd on January 05, 2015, 03:31:38 PM
Thanks

It seems to be going ok at the moment with Chrome. Only 15% in though
Title: Re: VERY important announcement for CMBN installers. It should make many here happy
Post by: JudgeDredd on January 06, 2015, 01:56:44 AM
Thanks for your help Elvis.

It downloaded (eventually) - the support was answered faster than it took to download the 10GB file  :P

I did do a separate install

But what the hell is this?

(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1160.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fq499%2Fwmar1967%2FMisc%2FSnap1_zps4a7629e9.jpg&hash=bd325bf67517858e380e6ae0f2b7737fd329055a)

I activated BN, then activated the modules and this is what I have at the end?
Title: VERY important announcement for CMBN installers. It should make many here happy
Post by: Yskonyn on January 06, 2015, 02:58:21 AM
Yes its normal. :) you are set.


.for each activation it just shows a green CMBN v3 box. Confusing indeed but I have it too.
Title: Re: VERY important announcement for CMBN installers. It should make many here happy
Post by: JudgeDredd on January 06, 2015, 03:17:23 AM
lol

Everything is installed fine and (barring future issues) my saved game loaded and seemed to work just fine.  O0

Thanks for the help