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Title: Cool space stuff...
Post by: Barthheart on April 24, 2012, 10:59:08 AM
About frakkin time we get off this ball of dirt.....

http://news.yahoo.com/asteroid-mining-venture-backed-google-execs-james-cameron-011205183.html

Title: Re: Cool space stuff...
Post by: mirth on April 24, 2012, 11:03:49 AM
I have a bad feeling about this. With James Cameron involved, you know they'll find an Alien or Terminator and bring it back to Earth.
Title: Re: Cool space stuff...
Post by: LongBlade on April 24, 2012, 11:06:33 AM
That is cool.

But let us ponder this statement a moment:

QuoteAnd there are a lot of precious metals up there waiting to be mined. A single platinum-rich space rock 1,650 feet (500 meters) wide contains the equivalent of all the platinum-group metals ever mined throughout human history, company officials said.

OK, say they manage to mine that rock and extract a boatload of platinum from it.

Let's pretend they only get a quarter of the platinum on that rock...

.......that's still a 20% increase in supply hitting the market overnight.

Now, they can either let the chips fall where they may, or they can pull a DeBeers and monopolize their find, slowly doling out their metal in order to keep the price up and make a fortune (albeit slower than maybe they wanted).

The economics of that get a bit convoluted. I wonder if they've really thought through how it's going to work.
Title: Re: Cool space stuff...
Post by: Barthheart on April 24, 2012, 11:10:57 AM
I think if they just dump it on the market and the price plumets, that they will never recoup their cost of getting it in the first place. It's goingh to take tremendous amounts of up front capital to get this started let alone the operating costs of transport back from the asteroids...

I'd be buying platium stocks, if that were possible, rather than selling right now....
Title: Re: Cool space stuff...
Post by: Centurion40 on April 24, 2012, 11:37:53 AM
But, if we opened human colonies on the moon, Mars, and a moon or two around Jupiter... well there just might be a market!
Title: Re: Cool space stuff...
Post by: MIGMaster on April 24, 2012, 01:38:06 PM
Richard Branson may actually buy the moon and use it as a giant advertsing tool for Virgin Intergalactic. Beats a blimp.
Title: Re: Cool space stuff...
Post by: LongBlade on April 24, 2012, 01:46:42 PM
Quote from: MIGMaster on April 24, 2012, 01:38:06 PM
Richard Branson may actually buy the moon and use it as a giant advertsing tool for Virgin Intergalactic. Beats a blimp.

Nothing beats a blimp.

Nothing.
Title: Re: Cool space stuff...
Post by: Staggerwing on April 24, 2012, 06:28:32 PM
Quote from: LongBlade on April 24, 2012, 01:46:42 PM
Quote from: MIGMaster on April 24, 2012, 01:38:06 PM
Richard Branson may actually buy the moon and use it as a giant advertsing tool for Virgin Intergalactic. Beats a blimp.

Nothing beats a blimp.

Nothing.

...except a Zeppelin! Especially one that carries aircraft in it's belly!

(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi747.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fxx120%2FStaggerwing%2FAirshipsAtWar.jpg&hash=597dd182b60b35c131364136932922a2c5161f3b)
Title: Re: Cool space stuff...
Post by: TheCommandTent on April 24, 2012, 06:51:34 PM
Quote from: LongBlade on April 24, 2012, 11:06:33 AM
That is cool.

But let us ponder this statement a moment:

QuoteAnd there are a lot of precious metals up there waiting to be mined. A single platinum-rich space rock 1,650 feet (500 meters) wide contains the equivalent of all the platinum-group metals ever mined throughout human history, company officials said.

OK, say they manage to mine that rock and extract a boatload of platinum from it.

Let's pretend they only get a quarter of the platinum on that rock...

.......that's still a 20% increase in supply hitting the market overnight.

Now, they can either let the chips fall where they may, or they can pull a DeBeers and monopolize their find, slowly doling out their metal in order to keep the price up and make a fortune (albeit slower than maybe they wanted).

The economics of that get a bit convoluted. I wonder if they've really thought through how it's going to work.

I am sure the government will be along shortly to regulate it :)
Title: Re: Cool space stuff...
Post by: LongBlade on April 24, 2012, 07:21:43 PM
Quote from: Staggerwing on April 24, 2012, 06:28:32 PM
Quote from: LongBlade on April 24, 2012, 01:46:42 PM
Quote from: MIGMaster on April 24, 2012, 01:38:06 PM
Richard Branson may actually buy the moon and use it as a giant advertsing tool for Virgin Intergalactic. Beats a blimp.

Nothing beats a blimp.

Nothing.

...except a Zeppelin! Especially one that carries aircraft in it's belly!

(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi747.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fxx120%2FStaggerwing%2FAirshipsAtWar.jpg&hash=597dd182b60b35c131364136932922a2c5161f3b)

Unless.....





..... it carries them on top!

(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1081.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj349%2Flongblade%2FSky-Fortress-2.jpg&hash=06891f990085cb9b4e20bd46c192af270e9a3e8b)
Title: Re: Cool space stuff...
Post by: LongBlade on April 24, 2012, 08:37:28 PM
Quote from: Barthheart on April 24, 2012, 11:10:57 AM
I'd be buying platium stocks, if that were possible, rather than selling right now....

Actually, I just looked around online and it appears there are two ETFs for platinum: PGM and PPLT. Both look pretty volatile so I'd be careful playing with them. There's also a Palladium ETF PALL, too.
Title: Re: Cool space stuff...
Post by: Staggerwing on April 24, 2012, 08:44:04 PM
Quote from: LongBlade on April 24, 2012, 07:21:43 PM

Unless.....





..... it carries them on top!

(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1081.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj349%2Flongblade%2FSky-Fortress-2.jpg&hash=06891f990085cb9b4e20bd46c192af270e9a3e8b)


Heh, I knew as soon as I posted that I'd be seeing that. ;D

Title: Re: Cool space stuff...
Post by: Mr. Bigglesworth on April 24, 2012, 11:44:24 PM
Quote from: LongBlade on April 24, 2012, 07:21:43 PM
Quote from: Staggerwing on April 24, 2012, 06:28:32 PM
Quote from: LongBlade on April 24, 2012, 01:46:42 PM
Quote from: MIGMaster on April 24, 2012, 01:38:06 PM
Richard Branson may actually buy the moon and use it as a giant advertsing tool for Virgin Intergalactic. Beats a blimp.

Nothing beats a blimp.

Nothing.

...except a Zeppelin! Especially one that carries aircraft in it's belly!

(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi747.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fxx120%2FStaggerwing%2FAirshipsAtWar.jpg&hash=597dd182b60b35c131364136932922a2c5161f3b)

Unless.....





..... it carries them on top!

(https://www.grogheads.com/forums/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi1081.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fj349%2Flongblade%2FSky-Fortress-2.jpg&hash=06891f990085cb9b4e20bd46c192af270e9a3e8b)


Physics fail.
Title: Re: Cool space stuff...
Post by: Mr. Bigglesworth on April 25, 2012, 01:04:22 AM
I suspect the original article is misinformation about what they want to do. How will they stop the burnup of minerals sent back? How will they land it?


If you go to a near earth asteroid you would be well off to just form it into a space station where it is. Send resources to the ISS for expansion, etc.
Title: Re: Cool space stuff...
Post by: MikeGER on April 25, 2012, 01:29:35 AM
that's so cool  8)

where can i send in my full application !