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Title: Leading causes of premature death in each country
Post by: Steelgrave on January 03, 2015, 06:27:56 PM
This is....interesting.

http://www.vox.com/2015/1/2/7474995/map-years-lost-life (http://www.vox.com/2015/1/2/7474995/map-years-lost-life)

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Title: Re: Leading causes of premature death in each country
Post by: Silent Disapproval Robot on January 03, 2015, 06:44:29 PM
Greenlanders are immortal?
Title: Re: Leading causes of premature death in each country
Post by: bbmike on January 03, 2015, 07:13:41 PM
Mmmm, my pizza should be here within minutes....
Title: Re: Leading causes of premature death in each country
Post by: Steelgrave on January 03, 2015, 07:16:42 PM
Quote from: Silent Disapproval Robot on January 03, 2015, 06:44:29 PM
Greenlanders are immortal?

You didn't know?
Title: Re: Leading causes of premature death in each country
Post by: bayonetbrant on January 03, 2015, 07:29:27 PM
Odd...  this was the one I was expecting

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Title: Re: Leading causes of premature death in each country
Post by: Gusington on January 03, 2015, 07:29:43 PM
Watch out for that African diarrhea.
Title: Re: Leading causes of premature death in each country
Post by: Staggerwing on January 03, 2015, 09:49:19 PM
Quote from: Steelgrave on January 03, 2015, 07:16:42 PM
Quote from: Silent Disapproval Robot on January 03, 2015, 06:44:29 PM
Greenlanders are immortal?

You didn't know?

Western Saharans as well it seems.
Title: Re: Leading causes of premature death in each country
Post by: Ubercat on January 08, 2015, 10:10:44 AM
Road injuries in Saudi Arabia? I guess those JackWads might want to seriously consider letting women drive.
Title: Re: Leading causes of premature death in each country
Post by: GDS_Starfury on January 08, 2015, 10:16:33 AM
oil princes and their Zondas and Ferraris.
Title: Re: Leading causes of premature death in each country
Post by: bayonetbrant on January 08, 2015, 10:18:26 AM
you guys suck
Title: Re: Leading causes of premature death in each country
Post by: GDS_Starfury on January 08, 2015, 10:23:36 AM
dude... you post was kind of a "duh, we know this" thing.
Title: Re: Leading causes of premature death in each country
Post by: GDS_Starfury on January 08, 2015, 10:25:01 AM
we strive to make Grogheads a center for learning the unknown.  a boob, beer and bad joke addicted DARPA if you will
Title: Re: Leading causes of premature death in each country
Post by: Martok on January 08, 2015, 02:54:34 PM
Quote from: GDS_Starfury on January 08, 2015, 10:25:01 AM
we strive to make Grogheads a center for learning the unknown.  a boob, beer and bad joke addicted DARPA if you will
LOL!  And Star makes his way back onto my sig line.  :D 

Title: Re: Leading causes of premature death in each country
Post by: Jack Nastyface on January 13, 2015, 12:35:00 AM
I don't want to de-rail the thread, but I believe that it if current rates continue, gun deaths in 'merica will surpass auto-accidents due LARGELY to a growing number of gun-related suicides, even while violent crime gun deaths actually falls.

Sadly, I suppose this only makes sense.  There is going to a be "wave of death" in most western nations in the next ten years, brought about by the aging baby-boomer demographic.  For those very frail elderly who decide to "their own quietus make", guns are probably the most effective way to do so.
Title: Re: Leading causes of premature death in each country
Post by: Bison on January 13, 2015, 12:52:58 AM
I don't think so not even close. 
Title: Re: Leading causes of premature death in each country
Post by: LongBlade on January 13, 2015, 09:25:43 AM
Quote from: Jack Nastyface on January 13, 2015, 12:35:00 AM
There is going to a be "wave of death" in most western nations in the next ten years, brought about by the aging baby-boomer demographic. 

That's an interesting hypothesis.

What leads you to believe that?

QuoteFor those very frail elderly who decide to "their own quietus make", guns are probably the most effective way to do so.

If there is a medical need, I suspect we may see more physician assists. But before we can speculate on that I'd like to hash out why the numbers might increase - beyond the straight per capita increase in baby boomers as an absolute number.
Title: Re: Leading causes of premature death in each country
Post by: bayonetbrant on January 13, 2015, 09:38:41 AM
Quote from: Jack Nastyface on January 13, 2015, 12:35:00 AMI don't want to de-rail the thread

what?  and abandon an ancient and honorable grogheads tradition!?
Title: Re: Leading causes of premature death in each country
Post by: Jack Nastyface on January 13, 2015, 02:30:15 PM
Quote from: LongBlade on January 13, 2015, 09:25:43 AM
Quote from: Jack Nastyface on January 13, 2015, 12:35:00 AM
There is going to a be "wave of death" in most western nations in the next ten years, brought about by the aging baby-boomer demographic. 
That's an interesting hypothesis.
What leads you to believe that?
QuoteFor those very frail elderly who decide to "their own quietus make", guns are probably the most effective way to do so.
If there is a medical need, I suspect we may see more physician assists. But before we can speculate on that I'd like to hash out why the numbers might increase - beyond the straight per capita increase in baby boomers as an absolute number.
First off, let me say I should have said "next 15 years".  Maybe even 20.



The "wave of death" (obviously my term, used dramatically) is based on current demographic projections for the baby-boom generation (1946-1964).  By 2029 in the USA, there will be approximately 71 million people over the age of 65, a 60 % increase from what it is now.  Virtually everywhere, old age = more health problems, specifically more chronic disease, which in turn often leads to diminished quality of life.  I am further inclined to believe that chronic rates may be higher (or at least appear earlier) in western nations that are already dealing with things like obesity.

Perhaps unrelated (or maybe not) birth rates since the mid-1960's have become more regular, and the number of people who will be paying for healthcare programs (the 18-65 cohort) will represent 57% of the population (that cohort is currently closer to 65% of the pop).  So access to quality medical care may be most challenging at a time when it is needed most.


Although I didn't googlize the CDC's stats "average age of persons committing gun-related suicide", I believe most suicide victims (about 20%) are between 45 - 59 years old, closely followed (at around 18%) by the 75 year+ cohort.  Suicide by firearm is still the most popular choice.

Taking these factors into consideration, I guess I was just extrapolating that increase in older adult / elderly population + slowly increasing suicide rates (since 2000) + lower vehicle accident mortality rates (on the decline since 2000) = more deaths by gun than auto-accident.

It is, of course, just a theory.  As Twain said:  "There's lies, damned lies...and statistics".

Sorry to completely darken the mood here.  I am looking over mortality stats as part of my work, so perhaps this is too morbid a conversation.  Apologies to anyone I've offended or put-off.  Quick...someone make a funny reference to women's anatomy.
Title: Re: Leading causes of premature death in each country
Post by: GDS_Starfury on January 13, 2015, 05:45:27 PM
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Title: Re: Leading causes of premature death in each country
Post by: Gusington on January 13, 2015, 06:45:10 PM
^Now I want to die.

And so there's this:

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-12-19/american-gun-deaths-to-exceed-traffic-fatalities-by-2015.html

And more recently this:

http://www.oregonlive.com/pacific-northwest-news/index.ssf/2014/07/gun_deaths_outnumbered_motor-v.html
Title: Re: Leading causes of premature death in each country
Post by: GDS_Starfury on January 13, 2015, 06:48:07 PM
reduce gun deaths and get grandma a new pair of titties!

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Title: Re: Leading causes of premature death in each country
Post by: GDS_Starfury on January 13, 2015, 06:50:00 PM
theres a reason this guy shot his wife and them hiself!

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Title: Re: Leading causes of premature death in each country
Post by: besilarius on January 13, 2015, 07:03:04 PM
And due to the shrinking of the Arctic ice sheets, we can't even go the eskimo way and put grandma on an ice floe and then wave.
Title: Re: Leading causes of premature death in each country
Post by: Gusington on January 13, 2015, 07:12:29 PM
GAH I WANT TO UNSEE!!!
Title: Re: Leading causes of premature death in each country
Post by: endfire79 on January 13, 2015, 07:17:01 PM
After seeing that picture, this thread needs an exorcism.

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Title: Re: Leading causes of premature death in each country
Post by: bayonetbrant on January 14, 2015, 07:25:29 AM
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Title: Re: Leading causes of premature death in each country
Post by: Martok on January 15, 2015, 03:39:01 PM
GAH!!  UNCLEANUNCLEANUNCLEAN!!! 
Title: Re: Leading causes of premature death in each country
Post by: bayonetbrant on January 15, 2015, 06:25:04 PM
hey guys -

We've had some folks point out that we probably need to keep the bikini pix in the Lingerie channel, so that no one has an uncomfortable discussion with a supervisor at work when someone is scrolling thru what should be regular conversations.

Thanks!